> For the complete documentation index, see [llms.txt](https://chagos.gitbook.io/parish-online/llms.txt). Markdown versions of documentation pages are available by appending `.md` to page URLs; this page is available as [Markdown](https://chagos.gitbook.io/parish-online/parish-online-banter-sessions/251024-24oct25-session-25-43.md). # 251024 - 24Oct25 session 25-43 {% embed url="" %} ### Video Timeline: 00:00 - 03:21 Introductory banter 03:21 - 09:04 Using Addresses 09:04 - 10:40 Adding labels using Style 10:40 - 12:38 Depicting the data in Table View 12:38 - 18:45 Publishing data via Public Map 18:45 - 23:27 GDPR implications 22:37 - 24:01 Ordnance Survey outage 24:01 - 36:53 Annotation 36:53 - 38:57 Land Registry Cadastral Parcels 38:57 - 46:25 Department of Transport Accidents layers 46:25 - 50:00 Mapping Local Nature Recovery Strategy maps into Parish Online 50:00 - 65:59(end) Biodiversity audit - banter, IRecord, \`Address Plus points, export to spreadsheets, newsletter delivery *** ### Meeting Summary: ### Quick recap The meeting began with discussions about banking and technical issues related to screen sharing and mapping projects, including the demonstration of various mapping tools and features for displaying historical residents and property information. The group explored GDPR implications for publishing personal data and addressed upcoming Ordnance Survey maintenance that could impact Parish Online's public links. The session concluded with discussions about mapping critical road network issues, using annotation tools for specific areas of interest, and exploring options for distributing letters to residents through various delivery methods. ### Next steps * [Rebecca: Email support at Parish-online.co.uk to check if the Ordnance Survey maintenance outage from 7th to 9th November will affect Parish Online](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=BGkOLAJ8THmWiIEh90NXOQ%3D%3D\&stepId=5e842296-b0e2-11f0-aec1-7a8ec53594df) * [Andrew: Contact Stephen Drury at Somerset Council to consolidate questions about the Somerset Environment Registry and biodiversity net gain strategies, representing Graham's questions as well](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=BGkOLAJ8THmWiIEh90NXOQ%3D%3D\&stepId=5e842b3a-b0e2-11f0-806f-7a8ec53594df) * [Andrew: Add Parish Online mapping integration suggestion to the consultation response for Somerset's nature recovery strategy](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=BGkOLAJ8THmWiIEh90NXOQ%3D%3D\&stepId=5e842f02-b0e2-11f0-80ce-7a8ec53594df) ### Summary #### Nat West Banking Call Update Graham spent 13.5 hours on hold with Nat West to confirm that nothing had changed regarding his personal banking situation. He mentioned having a presentation prepared but clarified it was not for the current meeting. Chris joined the conversation, noting that it was raining in Somerset, while Graham commented on the beautiful weather where he was. #### Screen Sharing and Property Exercise Peter demonstrated a screen-sharing issue and received technical assistance from Graham to resolve it. Once the sharing was successful, Peter showed a map with a red dot on an old thatched property and explained his goal of creating an exercise to allocate individuals to different properties at various times and dates. #### Historical Resident Mapping Solution Peter discussed a mapping project where he wants to display historical residents on buildings, with the ability to see names when hovering over dots. Graham suggested using the label feature to show 2025 residents directly on the map, while also maintaining the ability to view 2020 and other years through table view or detailed inspection. The solution allows Peter to see all names in a scrollable table format when zoomed out, and to view individual records by clicking on them, with the option to return to map view. #### Public Map Creation and GDPR Graham guided Peter through the process of creating a public map in their system, explaining how to adjust settings and generate a URL for sharing. They discussed GDPR considerations, emphasizing the need for explicit permission from individuals whose data is being shared. Bob raised a question about whether family names and addresses constitute personally identifiable information, which Graham and Stuart addressed by explaining that the combination of these details could identify individuals, even if each piece of information is common. #### Data Privacy and Road Mapping The group discussed GDPR implications for publishing personal data, with David explaining that combining names with specific addresses makes data personal and requires consent. They also addressed an upcoming Ordnance Survey maintenance outage from November 7-9, with Rebecca raising concerns about its impact on Parish Online's public links for remembrance events, and Graham suggested checking with . David concluded by describing his goal to use Parish Online to map and address critical road network issues within the parish, as current reporting systems through Hampshire Highways are challenging to track. #### Road Issue Mapping Tool Discussion David explained the need to identify critical issues on roads using Parish Online, focusing on annotating problems like potholes and drainage issues on a map. Graham and Chris discussed a technical issue with scrolling in the annotation tool, which Stuart resolved by suggesting reducing the browser zoom. The conversation ended with Stuart successfully assisting Chris with the problem. #### Map Annotation Tools Training David and Graham discussed technical issues related to viewing and annotating a map, including zooming, selecting tools, and creating annotations for specific areas of interest. David explained the need to mark localized flooding areas caused by a blocked drain, and Graham guided him through the process of using tools like polygons and labels to highlight these issues. Stuart suggested pulling flood zones from the Environment Agency but was informed that the flooding was highly localized. David successfully created annotations for flooding and hedge cutting, and Graham demonstrated how to view all annotations on a single map layer. #### Annotate Tool and Land Registry Graham demonstrated how to use the annotate tool in a presentation, showing David how to draw red circles on maps to highlight specific areas during a meeting. They discussed the tool's ability to be used live during presentations and its transparency feature, which allows underlying map details to be seen. David expressed interest in using this tool to identify responsibilities and allocate tasks during meetings with highways departments. Graham also introduced David to the Land Registry Cadastral Parcels feature, which provides information on land ownership, and demonstrated how to access and use this database. #### Property Boundary and Accident Data Analysis The group discussed using Ordnance Survey's PowerShell Online tool to view property boundaries and accident data. David noted that boundary information would help determine which side of boundaries becomes highways versus private property, while Stuart demonstrated how to access accident data from the Department for Transport, which can be useful for identifying dangerous intersections and writing to property owners about vegetation management. Rebecca raised a concern about the accuracy of recent accident data, and Graham suggested checking the source data or contacting the Department for Transport for verification. *** ### Chat: 01:07:38 Stuart Bacon: Leaflet distribution\ *** ### Audio-transcript: WEBVTT 1\ 00:02:59.600 --> 00:03:00.830\ Stuart Bacon: I should. 2\ 00:03:01.160 --> 00:03:03.530\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: How dare you? You're very muffled. 3\ 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:10.620\ Stuart Bacon: I'm muffled. Oh, not now, you were just speaking. I think it was just your normal, low voice. 4\ 00:03:10.980 --> 00:03:11.830\ Stuart Bacon: Oh, okay. 5\ 00:03:15.830 --> 00:03:20.719\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've just come off 13 and a half hours on hold with Nat West. 6\ 00:03:20.900 --> 00:03:26.249\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: to get an answer, which I already had the answer to, but they've just confirmed that nothing's changed. 7\ 00:03:28.250 --> 00:03:29.920\ Stuart Bacon: Sounds like a joyous day! 8\ 00:03:29.920 --> 00:03:30.660\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 9\ 00:03:37.820 --> 00:03:41.530\ Stuart Bacon: Was that personal, or was that, council stuff? 10\ 00:03:41.530 --> 00:03:43.049\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It was personal. 11\ 00:03:54.860 --> 00:03:57.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now then, can I do a fancy underline? 12\ 00:03:57.820 --> 00:03:59.490\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes! 13\ 00:04:06.390 --> 00:04:08.360\ Stuart Bacon: Have we got a presentation today? 14\ 00:04:11.600 --> 00:04:18.980\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It was weird, isn't it? Best people are getting in the habit of not many arriving to the last second. I've got the… 15\ 00:04:18.980 --> 00:04:25.260\ Stuart Bacon: Sorry, I was thinking… you were saying with your… can you do your fancy underline? I thought you were putting a presentation together for this afternoon. 16\ 00:04:25.260 --> 00:04:30.160\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, no, no, no, no, sorry. No, this is the result of the tet with the bank. 17\ 00:04:30.670 --> 00:04:31.770\ Stuart Bacon: Okay. 18\ 00:04:31.770 --> 00:04:33.699\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, there we go. Hi, Chris! 19\ 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.300\ Chris Edwards: Oh, good afternoon, all! 20\ 00:04:36.300 --> 00:04:39.730\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And is, Somerset bathed in sunshine? 21\ 00:04:39.980 --> 00:04:49.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, it's been pissing down with rain 10 minutes ago. Well, you should, you should come over here, it's wonderful. Most gorgeous thing. 22\ 00:04:49.840 --> 00:04:50.290\ Chris Edwards: Yeah. 23\ 00:04:50.290 --> 00:04:50.990\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: today. 24\ 00:04:51.770 --> 00:04:52.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hi, Peter! 25\ 00:04:53.080 --> 00:04:59.539\ Peter Lewis: Hi, Graham, and Somerset… well, the bit of Somerset I'm in is beautiful sunshine, so I don't know why you… 26\ 00:05:00.880 --> 00:05:04.250\ Chris Edwards: Actually, it's brightening up as I look out of the window. 27\ 00:05:05.500 --> 00:05:07.790\ Peter Lewis: No, it's obviously coming your way then, isn't it? 28\ 00:05:07.970 --> 00:05:08.760\ Chris Edwards: Yeah. 29\ 00:05:09.780 --> 00:05:11.350\ Peter Lewis: Whichever that way might be. 30\ 00:05:26.660 --> 00:05:35.720\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I know that Peter's got questions, and I know that two other people are joining who theoretically have got questions, but Peter, since you're here. 31\ 00:05:35.860 --> 00:05:39.019\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Why don't you start the ball rolling with us, if you'd like to? 32\ 00:05:39.300 --> 00:05:46.370\ Peter Lewis: Okay, well, it's a… I emailed Graham earlier today to ask this very simple question, which, I'll… 33\ 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.830\ Peter Lewis: I'll try and explain. 34\ 00:05:49.080 --> 00:05:59.090\ Peter Lewis: Perhaps if I share my screen, that might be easier, because I can show you then. Would that be sensible? Yeah, go for it. Let me just so that I can work out how to do that, I want to do it with, 35\ 00:05:59.880 --> 00:06:05.529\ Peter Lewis: However, if I just do my desktop, that will do… that's fine, do that, and then switch. 36\ 00:06:08.260 --> 00:06:09.849\ Peter Lewis: Let's do that, I don't know. 37\ 00:06:12.570 --> 00:06:16.859\ Peter Lewis: Can you… you have to tell me what you can see, I don't know. Can you see… you see… 38\ 00:06:17.020 --> 00:06:18.079\ Peter Lewis: Saying that. 39\ 00:06:18.250 --> 00:06:19.819\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not sharing at the moment, no. 40\ 00:06:19.820 --> 00:06:23.689\ Peter Lewis: Are you seeing… You're not seeing anything. 41\ 00:06:23.690 --> 00:06:30.939\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, in Zoom, it's a two-step operation. You go to the bottom of the Zoom screen and find a green share button. 42\ 00:06:30.940 --> 00:06:32.630\ Peter Lewis: Hi, guys. Bye. 43\ 00:06:32.630 --> 00:06:33.719\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go to the bottom of. 44\ 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.830\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that. So… 45\ 00:06:36.260 --> 00:06:43.980\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you find… that opens a screen with all the windows that you've got open on, and you select the one you want, and then you have to press another. 46\ 00:06:44.200 --> 00:06:46.619\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Share in the bottom right corner. 47\ 00:06:49.020 --> 00:06:53.099\ Peter Lewis: Maybe it's… let me try this one, then. Let me just try that, share that. 48\ 00:06:53.330 --> 00:06:56.260\ Peter Lewis: It says Open System Settings, what's that all about? 49\ 00:06:56.260 --> 00:06:59.790\ Stuart Bacon: No, that's not… Anything to do with it? 50\ 00:06:59.790 --> 00:07:04.329\ Peter Lewis: It says privacy and security to grant access. It probably doesn't want to do that. 51\ 00:07:04.900 --> 00:07:08.450\ Peter Lewis: You're on a Mac? Bull, boy. 52\ 00:07:09.250 --> 00:07:10.370\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, I am. 53\ 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:11.949\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, it sounds like it. 54\ 00:07:11.950 --> 00:07:15.169\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you probably do want to grant access, then, to Zoom. 55\ 00:07:18.640 --> 00:07:20.090\ Peter Lewis: How do I do that, then? 56\ 00:07:20.090 --> 00:07:22.409\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go up to the top left corner and click on… 57\ 00:07:22.410 --> 00:07:27.070\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, I've done that. Yeah, okay, that works, that works, okay. 58\ 00:07:27.620 --> 00:07:29.100\ Peter Lewis: Shouldn't I work? 59\ 00:07:29.510 --> 00:07:32.849\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mr. Granger, good afternoon to you, stranger. 60\ 00:07:32.850 --> 00:07:33.909\ Bob Grainger: Hello, how are you? 61\ 00:07:33.910 --> 00:07:39.469\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good to see you. It's good to see you. You look like you're sort of in some thick mist of some sort. 62\ 00:07:39.670 --> 00:07:40.280\ Bob Grainger: Am I? Oh. 63\ 00:07:40.280 --> 00:07:42.670\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I think you have to polish your camera lens. 64\ 00:07:42.670 --> 00:07:44.599\ Bob Grainger: Well, yes, maybe. 65\ 00:07:44.900 --> 00:07:47.269\ Bob Grainger: I only came because I heard there was going to be cake. 66\ 00:07:51.540 --> 00:07:55.699\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon, Rebecca, good afternoon, Andrew. There we go, Peter, you found it. 67\ 00:07:57.340 --> 00:08:02.210\ Peter Lewis: Okay, so you… so… It's nearly there, hasn't quite got here yet. 68\ 00:08:02.210 --> 00:08:04.240\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, no we can, no we can't. 69\ 00:08:04.470 --> 00:08:10.789\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can see, you can see that, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so, let me just do that, allow that. 70\ 00:08:11.080 --> 00:08:20.600\ Peter Lewis: So, you can see there, in the middle of the screen, the old thatch, and what I've done there is I've dropped a… I've dropped a red dot on it. 71\ 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:21.460\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 72\ 00:08:21.530 --> 00:08:41.450\ Peter Lewis: Which, what I wanted to do, so you understand, is I'm trying to create, for an exercise, who lives in which property, and I want to be able to allocate the individuals to the… who's living in that property, and maybe on… and maybe at different times in different years, different dates. 73\ 00:08:41.929 --> 00:08:59.670\ Peter Lewis: So I thought, well, if I… I wanted to try and drop a text on that said that I'm living there now. If I… if I click on that, you'll see, if I go, you know, in residence, that's… you can see in 2025, it's me, and in 2020, it was somebody called Bell. That's as an exercise. 74\ 00:08:59.670 --> 00:09:00.220\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 75\ 00:09:01.270 --> 00:09:08.929\ Peter Lewis: But that isn't really… so the way I've done that is to, is to… is to create that… create a layer which I've called Residence. 76\ 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:26.819\ Peter Lewis: and then add columns for 2020 and 2025. Then I've got to populate those with the relevant people in those dates, as I've done, Bell and Lewis. And then, in order to be able… and then I can turn that layout on and off, that red dot, I've dropped a red dot, I can turn that red dot on and off. 77\ 00:09:27.010 --> 00:09:32.769\ Peter Lewis: And see, from the, table on the side. Who was there? 78\ 00:09:33.150 --> 00:09:34.080\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… 79\ 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:51.479\ Peter Lewis: that's fine, but that… what I really want to be able to do is to drop the actual names on the screen, rather than a red dot, or maybe to be able to hover over that red dot and see what's behind it in the dataset, rather than having to 80\ 00:09:52.700 --> 00:09:57.520\ Peter Lewis: Fiddle around to find each individual one. Does that make sense? 81\ 00:09:58.340 --> 00:10:06.189\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, and are you only interested in showing one at a time? So if you've got a whole bunch of those, you don't want to show them all at once, necessarily? 82\ 00:10:06.610 --> 00:10:08.160\ Peter Lewis: What, you mean a whole bunch of. 83\ 00:10:08.160 --> 00:10:12.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: one for each building, presumably, in due course. You'll end up with the names for each building. 84\ 00:10:12.280 --> 00:10:25.150\ Peter Lewis: In due course, I'll end up with a name on every building, and maybe multiple names on each building, because there's more than, you know, over different periods in time, different people will have been there. Yes, exactly. 85\ 00:10:25.300 --> 00:10:28.919\ Peter Lewis: I'm… I'm relaxed about whether I show them 86\ 00:10:30.290 --> 00:10:38.860\ Peter Lewis: all at once, or… I understand the concept, like, the difficulty with squashing lots of text onto the map, so it's difficult to do that. 87\ 00:10:39.370 --> 00:10:40.320\ Peter Lewis: But… 88\ 00:10:40.470 --> 00:10:47.079\ Peter Lewis: Being able to roll over, for instance, and see that there is text behind a dot, and then identify what that text is. 89\ 00:10:47.410 --> 00:10:50.430\ Peter Lewis: Might be… might be a solution. 90\ 00:10:50.920 --> 00:11:09.510\ Peter Lewis: Or maybe when the map's at a given size, you know, when it's zoomed out to a certain size, where more text would be available, and then you scroll through, you know, you scroll left and right on the map, so that the text isn't squashed, as it… to make, for instance, might be a solution. 91\ 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.610\ Peter Lewis: But probably not… 92\ 00:11:12.760 --> 00:11:20.640\ Peter Lewis: What's not a solution is probably just to have no availability of that text except in that side panel, because it's too fiddly to… 93\ 00:11:20.750 --> 00:11:24.640\ Peter Lewis: get to. You've got to go through 2 or 3 clicks to get to each individual one. 94\ 00:11:24.790 --> 00:11:26.060\ Peter Lewis: Does that make sense? 95\ 00:11:26.060 --> 00:11:26.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 96\ 00:11:28.090 --> 00:11:29.120\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… 97\ 00:11:29.450 --> 00:11:35.709\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've offered a suggestion to you, but before I go into that now, I'll just ask if anyone else has any ideas. 98\ 00:11:41.490 --> 00:11:44.639\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, you're going into my little black book of people who… 99\ 00:11:44.930 --> 00:11:48.070\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It should be full of advice, but aren't. 100\ 00:11:52.190 --> 00:11:53.230\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh. 101\ 00:11:53.230 --> 00:11:57.230\ Peter Lewis: Stuart's scratching his head, because he's thinking, why on earth does he want to do this anyway? 102\ 00:11:57.230 --> 00:12:02.740\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know. Well, no, what I suggested was that you, put in those two 103\ 00:12:02.930 --> 00:12:13.980\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Fields, as you have done, and then you select one of them, say the 2025 one, as a label in style, and then that will show you all the ones that have got current 104\ 00:12:14.160 --> 00:12:15.430\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: names. 105\ 00:12:15.550 --> 00:12:19.899\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you want to dig further, you can just, as you say, double-click on them and go into the… 106\ 00:12:20.060 --> 00:12:23.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: this. So, if you were… do you know how to do labels? 107\ 00:12:23.730 --> 00:12:27.380\ Peter Lewis: Well, no, clearly not, because I didn't quite understand. 108\ 00:12:27.380 --> 00:12:32.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so if you click on the X at the top of the left column and close your residence. 109\ 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:41.570\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And go to your layer, which is the residence layer, and mouse over the click, the tick, yes, and go down, sorry. 110\ 00:12:42.140 --> 00:12:43.850\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into Style. 111\ 00:12:48.810 --> 00:12:55.090\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now you've got 4 columns across the screen, the left-hand column, where it says Style Options. 112\ 00:12:55.260 --> 00:13:02.229\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You go down to where it says label column, and click on that, and just make the 2025 field your label. 113\ 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.059\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just leave it like that for the moment. 114\ 00:13:06.770 --> 00:13:08.470\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just to click on Save. 115\ 00:13:15.910 --> 00:13:19.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you'll see that there is a name for 2025, Lewis. 116\ 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:27.329\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that would show you that that record at least has got one item in it, and I think 117\ 00:13:27.710 --> 00:13:33.749\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you wanted to see who was there in 2020 or 2019, whatever it was, you're gonna have to do the click. 118\ 00:13:34.020 --> 00:13:35.890\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: To go into the record itself. 119\ 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:40.469\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or, the other way, of course, is to do a table view. 120\ 00:13:40.670 --> 00:13:47.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you, go to the tick and hover over it and select Table View. 121\ 00:13:50.400 --> 00:13:54.200\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then you can see the names there in the two left-hand columns. 122\ 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:55.390\ Peter Lewis: Yeah. 123\ 00:13:55.390 --> 00:13:59.870\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And again, if you've got a whole village full, it'll just be a table that you can scroll down. 124\ 00:14:00.380 --> 00:14:06.939\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And one of the beauties of table view is that if you highlight that record by clicking on it once. 125\ 00:14:07.750 --> 00:14:16.779\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then down the bottom of your screen, which we can't see, so you may need to be in full screen mode. So if you click on the full screen thing on the black line. 126\ 00:14:16.950 --> 00:14:20.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Halfway up, halfway up, on the right-hand side. Yes, click that. 127\ 00:14:20.990 --> 00:14:23.620\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go. And you can now click on… 128\ 00:14:24.040 --> 00:14:27.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you highlight your record by clicking on it once. 129\ 00:14:29.850 --> 00:14:33.739\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it highlighted? Yeah, okay, so now click on the View on Map button. 130\ 00:14:34.900 --> 00:14:36.789\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it takes you straight to it. 131\ 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:45.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So again, if you had 15 of those there, and you clicked on one of them in the table view, it would take you on the map directly to that particular record. 132\ 00:14:47.190 --> 00:14:47.990\ Peter Lewis: Right. 133\ 00:14:47.990 --> 00:14:58.600\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that's a way that you could do this, because the table view will show you all the names for anybody else, so if you, you know, you may go back a century, for all I know, in due course. 134\ 00:14:58.690 --> 00:15:08.569\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you'll be able to sort them that way. You can also filter on them in that table, so that you say, I only want to see the 2025 column, or something like that. 135\ 00:15:08.880 --> 00:15:09.420\ Peter Lewis: Yeah. 136\ 00:15:09.420 --> 00:15:12.910\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's all possible. I'm not sure if this answers your question. 137\ 00:15:13.740 --> 00:15:21.400\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, I think it probably does. I think it probably does. I need to play with it to work out whether I've remembered everything you've told me, but I think that probably does. 138\ 00:15:21.830 --> 00:15:27.120\ Peter Lewis: answer my question. Well, the other thing you said, though, is what happens if I… 139\ 00:15:27.450 --> 00:15:31.390\ Peter Lewis: What happens if I do that? Yeah, okay, so that's interesting. 140\ 00:15:31.830 --> 00:15:35.090\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so it's adjusting. 141\ 00:15:35.090 --> 00:15:38.570\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, it's adjusting that to fit into the screen. That's fine. 142\ 00:15:38.570 --> 00:15:43.620\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Okay, may I ask a supplementary question, then, while I've got you? Which is… 143\ 00:15:43.620 --> 00:15:49.239\ Peter Lewis: Let's assume I've now created this map, and it's got lots of names in it, and I want to… 144\ 00:15:49.390 --> 00:15:55.280\ Peter Lewis: When I… when we were last on, a couple of three weeks ago, 145\ 00:15:55.530 --> 00:15:59.310\ Peter Lewis: Went through a process that allowed us to provide a hyperlink to it. 146\ 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.399\ Peter Lewis: With the… with the, ability to… 147\ 00:16:03.400 --> 00:16:04.590\ Stuart Bacon: bookmark Persian. 148\ 00:16:05.100 --> 00:16:09.280\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, I couldn't recall what it was, and I… I didn't… 149\ 00:16:09.570 --> 00:16:13.969\ Peter Lewis: Sorry, I didn't bother to go back to the video to find it. Well, I knew I was going to talk to you anyway. 150\ 00:16:13.970 --> 00:16:14.400\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: and… 151\ 00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:17.139\ Peter Lewis: Remind me how I would do that, please. 152\ 00:16:17.580 --> 00:16:21.650\ Stuart Bacon: You were… you would be caught with GDPR in this instance. 153\ 00:16:22.990 --> 00:16:29.650\ Peter Lewis: But I… I… That's why in my email to, 154\ 00:16:30.520 --> 00:16:38.369\ Peter Lewis: I said… well, you didn't see that, but in my email earlier, when I was explaining what I was trying to do, I said, with their permission. 155\ 00:16:38.640 --> 00:16:39.550\ Peter Lewis: Quotes. 156\ 00:16:39.690 --> 00:16:41.739\ Peter Lewis: Because I completely understand that. 157\ 00:16:42.040 --> 00:16:46.640\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And where are you going to publish this? Because it will be public information with a public map. 158\ 00:16:47.650 --> 00:16:55.195\ Peter Lewis: I might not publish it anywhere, but I… I… I… I might, . 159\ 00:16:56.750 --> 00:16:58.749\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, let's just run through it very quickly. If you go. 160\ 00:16:58.750 --> 00:17:14.379\ Peter Lewis: So, just to go back to that, just to go to the GDPR point, because of course, I do understand that if you're going to publish personal information that is from a database, then it falls under the GDPR rules, which means that it has to be 161\ 00:17:14.380 --> 00:17:25.979\ Peter Lewis: agreed to by the people whose data you are sharing, I understand that. So, assuming I had that agreement from all those people that I was sharing their data, assuming they… 162\ 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:33.859\ Peter Lewis: had done that, then it would be public information, and presumably could be shared. Yeah, is that correct? 163\ 00:17:35.150 --> 00:17:44.189\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: you can make it public information if you've had their permission, and the permission has been specifically for publicizing it. Yeah. 164\ 00:17:44.190 --> 00:17:44.790\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 165\ 00:17:44.790 --> 00:17:47.639\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if you went up to the cogwheel in the top right. 166\ 00:17:48.540 --> 00:17:49.500\ Peter Lewis: Yeah. 167\ 00:17:49.860 --> 00:17:52.749\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on that and select Administration. 168\ 00:17:53.090 --> 00:17:53.740\ Peter Lewis: Yeah. 169\ 00:17:54.070 --> 00:17:58.180\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then the left-hand side, you've got something called Public Maps. 170\ 00:17:58.730 --> 00:17:59.679\ Peter Lewis: Yes. 171\ 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:04.910\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, if you want to add a new one, for instance, you could just click on the plus sign in the second column. 172\ 00:18:06.660 --> 00:18:18.290\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then the system walks through what you want to do. So this screen, you select what sort of map you want to display. Is it going to be a photograph? Is it going to be a detailed map? Is it going to be open data, which is a bit less detailed? 173\ 00:18:18.410 --> 00:18:24.899\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So whichever one you select, it gets highlighted in green, so you've got open data selected here, so you can go to next. 174\ 00:18:25.230 --> 00:18:27.460\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this next is going to… 175\ 00:18:27.790 --> 00:18:33.090\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Select all the layers from your, stuff. 176\ 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:34.230\ Chris Edwards: Residential. 177\ 00:18:34.590 --> 00:18:36.980\ Peter Lewis: So I need to find that one. 178\ 00:18:36.980 --> 00:18:37.590\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 179\ 00:18:38.080 --> 00:18:40.710\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then that's the only one you want, so click on that. 180\ 00:18:41.130 --> 00:18:45.269\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then the next layer, you don't want any of them, so click on it again. 181\ 00:18:47.390 --> 00:18:48.310\ Peter Lewis: Yeah. 182\ 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:56.730\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this is just where do you want the map to open first when they see it? So bear in mind that you're talking to your general public. 183\ 00:18:57.050 --> 00:18:59.850\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You actually think you want to zoom in a bit on Pitney. 184\ 00:19:00.170 --> 00:19:01.000\ Peter Lewis: Yep. 185\ 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:04.900\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so, just… just zoom in, do you click on the… yeah. 186\ 00:19:05.730 --> 00:19:07.070\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And scroll up a bit. 187\ 00:19:07.550 --> 00:19:11.669\ Peter Lewis: I cannot find an easy way to do… I should be able to do that zooming much easier, shouldn't I? 188\ 00:19:11.670 --> 00:19:12.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 189\ 00:19:12.580 --> 00:19:14.370\ Peter Lewis: There we are, yeah, okay, fine. 190\ 00:19:14.550 --> 00:19:18.220\ Peter Lewis: I can. That's the beauty of being on the Mac, isn't it? 191\ 00:19:18.540 --> 00:19:21.830\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, that's fine. So, click on next. 192\ 00:19:23.080 --> 00:19:28.449\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And give it a title, just to remind you what it is. The title isn't seen by anybody else. 193\ 00:19:32.130 --> 00:19:37.410\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, on the column on the right called Start Layers. 194\ 00:19:37.520 --> 00:19:46.259\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You, by default, the residence layer will show, but you can let for it to be just switched on or off by the users. 195\ 00:19:47.100 --> 00:19:49.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which will happen anyway, but… 196\ 00:19:49.700 --> 00:19:57.070\ Peter Lewis: If I… if I select this as being off now, then they'll have to switch it on. If I select it as being on now, can they switch it off? 197\ 00:19:57.070 --> 00:19:57.830\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 198\ 00:19:57.830 --> 00:20:00.019\ Peter Lewis: Okay, so it doesn't matter either way in that sense, does it? 199\ 00:20:00.020 --> 00:20:01.730\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: In this case, no. 200\ 00:20:01.730 --> 00:20:02.650\ Peter Lewis: And where we want to start. 201\ 00:20:02.650 --> 00:20:04.389\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just click on Save. 202\ 00:20:04.860 --> 00:20:05.820\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, okay. 203\ 00:20:06.290 --> 00:20:16.249\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, of those two addresses, the top one is just a straight URL, which you can send to anybody, and the bottom one is the code that your web manager will want for his. 204\ 00:20:16.490 --> 00:20:17.000\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 205\ 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:18.140\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Village website. 206\ 00:20:18.140 --> 00:20:18.940\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 207\ 00:20:18.940 --> 00:20:19.720\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 208\ 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:20.450\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah. 209\ 00:20:20.450 --> 00:20:24.850\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I just couldn't remember where we did that before, so thank you for… 210\ 00:20:24.850 --> 00:20:26.400\ Peter Lewis: Walking me through that, that's how… 211\ 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's all right, and then to go back to your maps, you just click on the globe at the top right. 212\ 00:20:31.190 --> 00:20:36.669\ Peter Lewis: So these, oh, so I just want to grab those for a minute, but that's okay. 213\ 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:38.960\ Peter Lewis: Good. You too. 214\ 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just go… if you open up a new tab in your browser. 215\ 00:20:42.760 --> 00:20:45.220\ Peter Lewis: I'm gonna do that. And just paste, paste it in. 216\ 00:20:46.020 --> 00:20:52.390\ Peter Lewis: I'm going there, and there, and there… And… It's… 217\ 00:20:53.120 --> 00:20:55.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Colby will do fine? Yep, that'll… okay. 218\ 00:20:56.010 --> 00:20:57.069\ Peter Lewis: It's, useful. 219\ 00:20:57.070 --> 00:20:59.209\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's just like magic, isn't it? Yeah. 220\ 00:20:59.430 --> 00:21:03.080\ Peter Lewis: Yep, perfect. That's exactly what I wanted to achieve. 221\ 00:21:03.080 --> 00:21:03.760\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good. 222\ 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:15.999\ Peter Lewis: Yet another in hundreds of thousands of satisfied customers. So I can turn it off… I can turn it off like that, and turn it back on. Yeah, no, yeah, no, that is exactly what I wanted to be able to demonstrate. 223\ 00:21:17.370 --> 00:21:19.520\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mr. Granger has his hand raised. 224\ 00:21:19.520 --> 00:21:19.950\ Bob Grainger: I do. 225\ 00:21:19.950 --> 00:21:28.550\ Peter Lewis: Hello, Mr. Can I just… let me… can I just come… I… I got rid of all your faces a moment ago, I've got to find them again. 226\ 00:21:28.840 --> 00:21:30.539\ Bob Grainger: I have a query. 227\ 00:21:31.250 --> 00:21:32.010\ Peter Lewis: - 228\ 00:21:32.940 --> 00:21:42.729\ Peter Lewis: Can I just… let me just, let me just come back to Zoom. There we are. Okay, I… I don't know what… can you see this… can you see the map still? I've just switched out of it, but nobody can still see it. 229\ 00:21:42.730 --> 00:21:45.620\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, yes, we can see it. Okay, that's fine. 230\ 00:21:45.620 --> 00:21:53.970\ Bob Grainger: My query concerns the GDPR. If you're only publishing the family names, why is that personally identifiable information? 231\ 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.669\ Bob Grainger: Because we've done… 232\ 00:21:57.670 --> 00:21:58.940\ Stuart Bacon: family name, and… 233\ 00:21:58.940 --> 00:22:01.549\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Seeing where is the address is the problem, dog. 234\ 00:22:01.550 --> 00:22:05.150\ Bob Grainger: But isn't the phone book the same thing? 235\ 00:22:06.230 --> 00:22:06.990\ David Morgan-Jones: Yes. 236\ 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:07.920\ David Morgan-Jones: It is. 237\ 00:22:08.070 --> 00:22:10.519\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you opt in or out of the phone book, don't you, nowadays? 238\ 00:22:10.520 --> 00:22:12.350\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, you do, if one exists. 239\ 00:22:12.350 --> 00:22:15.109\ Bob Grainger: You can opt out, but you're automatically opted in. 240\ 00:22:15.900 --> 00:22:19.250\ Bob Grainger: Before opt-in, you are in unless you're opt-out. 241\ 00:22:19.250 --> 00:22:26.119\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, but I don't think the same could be said for Parish Online. People don't even know it exists, neither opted into it or not. 242\ 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:32.130\ Bob Grainger: But the point I'm making is we've just done a similar sort of thing here. We have a terrace of cottages. 243\ 00:22:32.230 --> 00:22:48.190\ Bob Grainger: They're all constructed about the same time, about 150 years ago, about 20 of them, and a group of people had done research and traced the occupants of every house back since they were constructed, and we published a photo map 244\ 00:22:48.450 --> 00:22:57.169\ Bob Grainger: A panorama map that's about a meter wide, with a history of all the houses, with all the people in them, including their current occupants. 245\ 00:22:57.780 --> 00:23:06.809\ Bob Grainger: And no thought was given to GDPR then, because the assumption was it's only family name and the address. 246\ 00:23:07.180 --> 00:23:12.240\ David Morgan-Jones: I… I've just checked… Bob, I've just checked on, ChatGPT, and I'll quote. 247\ 00:23:12.470 --> 00:23:19.330\ David Morgan-Jones: Under GDPR, personal data means any information that can identify a living person 248\ 00:23:19.430 --> 00:23:24.639\ David Morgan-Jones: A living person, so if they're dead, it doesn't matter. Directly or indirectly. 249\ 00:23:24.890 --> 00:23:29.520\ David Morgan-Jones: A surname alone, like Smith, usually isn't personal data. 250\ 00:23:29.770 --> 00:23:33.659\ David Morgan-Jones: But once it's placed on a specific property. 251\ 00:23:33.830 --> 00:23:39.800\ David Morgan-Jones: say, Smith, written over 42 Elm Road, it almost certainly is personal data. 252\ 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:44.029\ David Morgan-Jones: Because the data now identifies who lives or owns that property. 253\ 00:23:44.030 --> 00:23:44.820\ Bob Grainger: Okay. 254\ 00:23:45.780 --> 00:23:49.910\ Bob Grainger: That's interesting. So it's not the name or the address, but it's the name and the address. 255\ 00:23:49.910 --> 00:24:00.450\ David Morgan-Jones: Yes. And the way in which you get around it is you need to seek permission from the current people, whether they are happy for them to be… their name to be… 256\ 00:24:00.620 --> 00:24:04.290\ Bob Grainger: Published, and once you do that, you become. 257\ 00:24:04.360 --> 00:24:06.360\ David Morgan-Jones: Unfortunately, a data controller. 258\ 00:24:06.360 --> 00:24:07.460\ Bob Grainger: Yes. 259\ 00:24:08.550 --> 00:24:10.460\ Stuart Bacon: I have to register with the ICO. 260\ 00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:10.920\ Bob Grainger: Yeah. 261\ 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.000\ Peter Lewis: Accordingly. 262\ 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:15.330\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, not to worry, my lawyer will be in touch with yours shortly. 263\ 00:24:16.780 --> 00:24:30.239\ Peter Lewis: Can I… is it just a… not to make this a GDPR conversation particularly, but if that data were already in the public domain, so, for instance, as a company director, my information, and where I live. 264\ 00:24:30.340 --> 00:24:39.089\ Peter Lewis: is in the public domain, you can find it in company status register. I have no control over whether it's in there alright. I haven't asked my permission, it's just there. 265\ 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:49.540\ Stuart Bacon: Decent says the company's house include that you know that you… your data will be published on their website. So, yes, it does a… you have 266\ 00:24:49.700 --> 00:25:06.890\ Stuart Bacon: inadvertently agreed to, by publishing data, that it will be there. And, if you then publish any information on your parish council site, that then says the parish council is the data controller using that information, whether that's obtained from another source or not. 267\ 00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:08.780\ Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 268\ 00:25:08.780 --> 00:25:10.120\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: complicated, 269\ 00:25:10.520 --> 00:25:22.870\ Peter Lewis: Well, yeah, absolutely, exactly. But anyway, that doesn't… that's fine, because it doesn't… that's not going to be, for my purposes in the… in the short run, that's not an issue anyway. But, that's very helpful, 270\ 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:27.040\ Peter Lewis: Graham, explaining that to me. I'm very grateful. 271\ 00:25:27.040 --> 00:25:33.530\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you'd like to stop sharing your screen, yeah, thank you. Then, let me just check, Rebecca, did you arrive with a particular question in mind? 272\ 00:25:33.660 --> 00:25:35.470\ Rebecca Hunt: No, no, I was just gonna… 273\ 00:25:36.320 --> 00:25:37.240\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: employer. 274\ 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:51.860\ Rebecca Hunt: loiter, see what's happening. I do have one very quick question. We got an email from Ordnance Survey saying there's going to be an outage. They're doing some maintenance from the 7th to the 9th of November. Is that going to be affecting Parish Online? 275\ 00:25:52.690 --> 00:25:54.549\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I don't think so. 276\ 00:25:54.550 --> 00:25:55.020\ Rebecca Hunt: Okay. 277\ 00:25:55.020 --> 00:25:57.369\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think they'll be working on copies. 278\ 00:25:57.470 --> 00:26:15.219\ Rebecca Hunt: That's fine, that's fine, just because we have our remembrance stuff that weekend, I just want to make sure that… because I use the public link, kind of, for these events, because, of course, when you take a screenshot of something, it's not always clear, but I've got… I've really got into using the public links to share event maps, so people can see things very clearly. 279\ 00:26:15.220 --> 00:26:18.110\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I think it's a very good question to ask. 280\ 00:26:18.290 --> 00:26:24.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you were in a position in your email at the moment, you could write an email to support at 281\ 00:26:24.510 --> 00:26:27.960\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Parish-online.co.uk, and just ask them. 282\ 00:26:28.140 --> 00:26:29.929\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because I think it's well worth checking. 283\ 00:26:29.930 --> 00:26:38.589\ Rebecca Hunt: Yeah, just to double check. I'm sure it might be fine, but I do know it uses OS data in Paris Online, so I think anything that's linked might… 284\ 00:26:39.290 --> 00:26:42.120\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly, so why don't you check with them and find out? 285\ 00:26:42.120 --> 00:26:44.020\ Rebecca Hunt: Will do. Alright, thank you. 286\ 00:26:44.020 --> 00:26:49.629\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: so, David, you have the seat of honor as being someone who's arrived with a question. 287\ 00:26:50.750 --> 00:26:53.660\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And yes, David, that David, that David. 288\ 00:26:54.110 --> 00:27:01.260\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, what from… you want to be… should I bring up the question I had last… the week I managed to completely avoid you? 289\ 00:27:01.260 --> 00:27:11.269\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so I didn't know whether our 5-minute chat at the very last minute to the last hour had solved your issue, or whether you wanted to go into it in more detail. 290\ 00:27:11.270 --> 00:27:17.969\ David Morgan-Jones: Okay, let me put the use case to you. What I want to do is use the, Parish Online. 291\ 00:27:18.360 --> 00:27:24.369\ David Morgan-Jones: To look at the, the whole of the road network within the parish. 292\ 00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:28.480\ David Morgan-Jones: And use it as a tool 293\ 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:34.680\ David Morgan-Jones: To identify what are the critical problems that we've got to try and resolve. 294\ 00:27:34.950 --> 00:27:42.649\ David Morgan-Jones: At the moment, like, I think most of you, we've, for those, at sort of parish level, we've got… 295\ 00:27:42.770 --> 00:27:52.980\ David Morgan-Jones: We… most people report their problems of, roads directly to the Highways Authority, in our case, Hampshire Highways. 296\ 00:27:53.830 --> 00:28:01.280\ David Morgan-Jones: But we also get a lot of stuff coming in through the parish, and it's very difficult to track. And some of the bigger stuff. 297\ 00:28:01.490 --> 00:28:05.540\ David Morgan-Jones: Like, clearing… 298\ 00:28:05.550 --> 00:28:24.810\ David Morgan-Jones: hedgerows is a combination of highways and the riparian owner. And so what we've got to do is identify where we have particular issues, and then work out. And I thought it would be much easier if we could use Parish Online to work our way through each of the individual roads. 299\ 00:28:24.890 --> 00:28:26.880\ David Morgan-Jones: And identifying 300\ 00:28:27.620 --> 00:28:36.950\ David Morgan-Jones: on the road itself, where there's a critical problem. And then, rather like Peter brought up, how do we annotate it on the map 301\ 00:28:37.110 --> 00:28:39.760\ David Morgan-Jones: As though I was using it as a whiteboard. 302\ 00:28:40.130 --> 00:28:49.379\ David Morgan-Jones: To identify what the problem is, you know, pothole, you know, drainage, a ditch needs, draining, etc. 303\ 00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:53.189\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, would you like to share your screen with us? 304\ 00:28:53.420 --> 00:28:59.399\ David Morgan-Jones: I certainly will. Let me just get, parish Online up and running. 305\ 00:29:08.590 --> 00:29:16.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whilst he's doing that, Chris, let me just check in with you. You never fail to arrive with some helpful little query. You've got one up your sleeve today. 306\ 00:29:16.610 --> 00:29:19.480\ Chris Edwards: Yes, but I'm gonna let you introduce… 307\ 00:29:20.130 --> 00:29:23.829\ Chris Edwards: I'm gonna let you introduce the, annotation tool. 308\ 00:29:24.030 --> 00:29:24.500\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 309\ 00:29:24.500 --> 00:29:32.860\ Chris Edwards: I've got a question to ask once you've finished your blurb on annotations. 310\ 00:29:32.860 --> 00:29:34.820\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, good. Thank you. 311\ 00:29:37.010 --> 00:29:44.300\ David Morgan-Jones: Do you want to, Chris, do you want to deal with yours? I, I'm… my, login's, playing city, what's it? 312\ 00:29:45.590 --> 00:29:49.339\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, Chris's question will probably vary depending on what I say to you. 313\ 00:29:49.930 --> 00:29:55.459\ Chris Edwards: Okay, so this is a very simple query I've got. 314\ 00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:59.129\ Chris Edwards: I've already set up, this annotation. 315\ 00:29:59.910 --> 00:30:07.260\ Chris Edwards: And if I want to do another annotation, Any object. 316\ 00:30:07.530 --> 00:30:11.670\ Chris Edwards: I'll use, an area this time. 317\ 00:30:13.670 --> 00:30:15.469\ Chris Edwards: Use label, yes. 318\ 00:30:16.420 --> 00:30:22.440\ Chris Edwards: Now, I… I'm trying to scroll down to, input. 319\ 00:30:22.800 --> 00:30:25.400\ Chris Edwards: what I want in the label, but I can't. 320\ 00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:30.510\ Chris Edwards: And I've noticed that this has occurred about 3 or 4 months ago. 321\ 00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:36.600\ Chris Edwards: Previously, I could scroll down and insert the words to use in the label. 322\ 00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:38.779\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. But I physically cannot. 323\ 00:30:38.780 --> 00:30:41.080\ Chris Edwards: Get down to that point. 324\ 00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:43.530\ Chris Edwards: Have you had the same problem? 325\ 00:30:43.790 --> 00:30:47.390\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you're using Microsoft, so I have no idea. 326\ 00:30:48.470 --> 00:30:52.590\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But, that's a new question, Chris, I've not come across that before. 327\ 00:30:52.980 --> 00:30:54.410\ Chris Edwards: I mean, I'll certainly. 328\ 00:30:54.410 --> 00:31:00.070\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I always turn to Stuart in these cases, because he's probably double-checking what you're doing. Yeah. 329\ 00:31:00.070 --> 00:31:06.730\ Stuart Bacon: First question for you then, Chris. Have you got a scroll, button on your mouse? 330\ 00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:08.179\ Chris Edwards: Yes, I have. 331\ 00:31:08.530 --> 00:31:12.489\ Stuart Bacon: And you scroll, using your mouse button, Open up. 332\ 00:31:12.490 --> 00:31:15.320\ Chris Edwards: I'm doing it right now, and I can't go up or down. 333\ 00:31:15.520 --> 00:31:21.479\ Stuart Bacon: Okay. Second option then, in the top right-hand corner of the browser are the three dots. 334\ 00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:22.940\ Chris Edwards: Yep. 335\ 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:31.749\ Stuart Bacon: Click on that… And then on Zoom, reduce the zoom down there. 336\ 00:31:31.750 --> 00:31:33.060\ Chris Edwards: I say! 337\ 00:31:33.060 --> 00:31:34.200\ Stuart Bacon: A few points. 338\ 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:34.590\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 339\ 00:31:34.590 --> 00:31:35.790\ Chris Edwards: It's worked. 340\ 00:31:35.790 --> 00:31:36.980\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now we can, well done. 341\ 00:31:36.980 --> 00:31:37.350\ Stuart Bacon: And then… 342\ 00:31:37.350 --> 00:31:38.310\ Chris Edwards: How are you finished? 343\ 00:31:38.310 --> 00:31:40.100\ Stuart Bacon: Now you can see and undo. 344\ 00:31:41.180 --> 00:31:45.090\ Chris Edwards: In fact, thank you ever so much, Stuart. I hadn't considered that. 345\ 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:49.729\ Chris Edwards: No worries. Okay, you answered my query. Thank you. 346\ 00:31:50.280 --> 00:31:53.100\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, we're hitting 3 for 3 so far today. Pretty good. 347\ 00:31:53.100 --> 00:31:58.660\ Chris Edwards: I shall, Long, stop sharing. 348\ 00:31:59.160 --> 00:31:59.900\ Chris Edwards: There we go. 349\ 00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:00.920\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thanks, Chris. 350\ 00:32:02.170 --> 00:32:04.530\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you a prepared man now, David? 351\ 00:32:06.180 --> 00:32:07.220\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 352\ 00:32:10.420 --> 00:32:12.070\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: By the way, David, you're on mute. 353\ 00:32:15.220 --> 00:32:17.620\ David Morgan-Jones: Sorry, that doesn't help. Can you see the map? 354\ 00:32:17.830 --> 00:32:18.650\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 355\ 00:32:19.460 --> 00:32:21.190\ Chris Edwards: Could you go full screen? 356\ 00:32:21.810 --> 00:32:23.850\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I know. 357\ 00:32:26.520 --> 00:32:27.879\ David Morgan-Jones: On my full screen, can you see it all? 358\ 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if you go up to the top right, the little square, isn't it? 359\ 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:32.859\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Got a bit further to go yet. 360\ 00:32:35.430 --> 00:32:44.479\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: All the way… oh, you've probably got photographs in the way. The top right of your browser, next to the X, there's a square, which, if you click on it, might take you a bit further. 361\ 00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:54.319\ David Morgan-Jones: screen. Oh, I tell you what I have a problem with, is if I stop it, right, if I just reshare that… 362\ 00:32:54.750 --> 00:33:02.329\ David Morgan-Jones: And… I've got too many damn things, Ernie. 363\ 00:33:06.310 --> 00:33:21.150\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You remind me of the time when I used to run a help desk, and someone was told that the solution to their problem when they were calling about this, how slow their computer was, was to shut some windows. And we literally heard them walking around the room. 364\ 00:33:23.710 --> 00:33:25.620\ David Morgan-Jones: No, I'm not. 365\ 00:33:26.830 --> 00:33:29.970\ Stuart Bacon: Have you got a widescreen screen, David, or have you got a… 366\ 00:33:29.970 --> 00:33:33.269\ David Morgan-Jones: I have, yeah, I have got a, a widescreen. 367\ 00:33:34.580 --> 00:33:35.350\ Stuart Bacon: Okay. 368\ 00:33:35.350 --> 00:33:38.079\ David Morgan-Jones: And you don't want to see my PCB design. 369\ 00:33:38.570 --> 00:33:41.219\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Unless you're particularly interested in electronic boards. 370\ 00:33:41.220 --> 00:33:41.980\ David Morgan-Jones: Nope. 371\ 00:33:43.150 --> 00:33:46.169\ Chris Edwards: I mean, why don't you just zoom in and keep the… 372\ 00:33:46.170 --> 00:33:46.550\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 373\ 00:33:46.990 --> 00:33:47.680\ David Morgan-Jones: Can you see that? 374\ 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:48.050\ Chris Edwards: it is. 375\ 00:33:48.250 --> 00:33:52.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, keep zooming, keep zooming, because you want to show some crossroads and things, don't you? 376\ 00:33:52.700 --> 00:33:55.999\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, zooming, zooming, zooming, like that. Okay. 377\ 00:33:57.350 --> 00:34:02.030\ David Morgan-Jones: So, let me just… Yeah, that's it. 378\ 00:34:02.030 --> 00:34:08.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Select somewhere that's going to be of interest to your discussion, that you're going to highlight to your audience. 379\ 00:34:09.080 --> 00:34:12.820\ David Morgan-Jones: Right, just here… 380\ 00:34:13.370 --> 00:34:14.779\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Here we go, yep. 381\ 00:34:14.780 --> 00:34:20.859\ David Morgan-Jones: We have a road here, and we have this. So we always have an area of flooding. 382\ 00:34:21.080 --> 00:34:26.509\ David Morgan-Jones: In this area here, because this drain… this, stream is blocked. 383\ 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:27.339\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 384\ 00:34:28.650 --> 00:34:35.770\ David Morgan-Jones: So, what I want to be able to do is to, sort of put a marker around it. 385\ 00:34:35.949 --> 00:34:38.030\ David Morgan-Jones: And then put flooding. 386\ 00:34:38.499 --> 00:34:46.869\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so if you go up to Tools Annotate, And click on New Object. 387\ 00:34:47.729 --> 00:34:51.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you're going to presumably do a poly… yeah, exactly. 388\ 00:34:53.129 --> 00:34:54.219\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Polygon. 389\ 00:34:54.399 --> 00:34:55.899\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then just draw… 390\ 00:34:57.250 --> 00:34:59.589\ Stuart Bacon: So, I was gonna say, before you do that, why not… 391\ 00:35:00.460 --> 00:35:05.149\ Stuart Bacon: Drawing the floods… pulling the flood zones from the environment agencies, wouldn't that? 392\ 00:35:05.620 --> 00:35:08.760\ David Morgan-Jones: No, they're highly localized floods. 393\ 00:35:08.870 --> 00:35:09.590\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's a… 394\ 00:35:09.590 --> 00:35:10.470\ David Morgan-Jones: tiny. 395\ 00:35:10.720 --> 00:35:11.330\ Stuart Bacon: Oh, okay. 396\ 00:35:11.900 --> 00:35:14.020\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: contains blocked with leaves or things. 397\ 00:35:14.020 --> 00:35:18.630\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, it's because no one's actually, no one's actually gone through and cleared them. 398\ 00:35:18.980 --> 00:35:24.240\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go to the left-hand column, David, and say Use Label, and just click in that box… 399\ 00:35:25.230 --> 00:35:26.080\ David Morgan-Jones: Gotcha. 400\ 00:35:26.080 --> 00:35:28.770\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And put in what you wanted to say, like flooding. 401\ 00:35:31.110 --> 00:35:32.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And finish. 402\ 00:35:32.610 --> 00:35:33.370\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 403\ 00:35:33.850 --> 00:35:36.250\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, nice blue color, that looks good. 404\ 00:35:36.410 --> 00:35:37.650\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, finish it. 405\ 00:35:40.490 --> 00:35:44.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you can zoom out to the next one, if you like. 406\ 00:35:46.740 --> 00:35:53.560\ David Morgan-Jones: So, actually, along… Actually, I'll go to the 287, which is down here. 407\ 00:35:54.700 --> 00:36:00.360\ David Morgan-Jones: And… So, it's a new object. 408\ 00:36:00.670 --> 00:36:03.149\ David Morgan-Jones: And if I just go to a polygon. 409\ 00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:09.190\ David Morgan-Jones: So I'll just… I'll just conf… you know, I'll do this one more time, and… Sir, agree to… 410\ 00:36:09.300 --> 00:36:15.740\ David Morgan-Jones: That we've now got… So, this is a new feature. 411\ 00:36:21.240 --> 00:36:22.620\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hitch cutting, yes. 412\ 00:36:28.340 --> 00:36:29.909\ David Morgan-Jones: There we go, brilliant, I've got it. 413\ 00:36:30.050 --> 00:36:37.670\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, one more thing for you, Dave. If you close down that left-hand column, This one here. Yeah. 414\ 00:36:37.870 --> 00:36:48.209\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you go to that second item along from the right, in the head of that column, you've got the little… the magnifying glass on the right, and then you've got the one next to it. 415\ 00:36:49.030 --> 00:36:49.680\ David Morgan-Jones: Yep. 416\ 00:36:49.680 --> 00:36:51.510\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on the one next to it. 417\ 00:36:51.510 --> 00:36:52.100\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah. 418\ 00:36:52.490 --> 00:36:55.829\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's called Annotation layer. Yeah, just click on it. 419\ 00:36:55.830 --> 00:36:56.380\ David Morgan-Jones: Yep. 420\ 00:36:56.950 --> 00:36:57.550\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nope. 421\ 00:36:58.030 --> 00:37:08.359\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: woo. What it's supposed to do is to show all the annotations on your screen on a map that everyone can see it at once, so it usually scales the map to show 422\ 00:37:08.910 --> 00:37:14.370\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: everything… But it didn't do it automatically, that's interesting. Well, at least they've turned them on. 423\ 00:37:15.130 --> 00:37:19.830\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that… You can turn your annotations on or off individually. 424\ 00:37:19.830 --> 00:37:28.210\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, it is, it is, it is toggling it on, but unfortunately, what it seems to have gone is they've actually got it the wrong way around, visually, on the icon. 425\ 00:37:28.850 --> 00:37:32.110\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, well, if you push it on, it goes on, right? 426\ 00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:33.060\ David Morgan-Jones: Yup, there you go. 427\ 00:37:33.060 --> 00:37:34.539\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's got an underline there. 428\ 00:37:34.540 --> 00:37:40.170\ David Morgan-Jones: I think what's happened was, when I went into annotate, it automatically put annotate on. 429\ 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.450\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hmm, okay. 430\ 00:37:42.450 --> 00:37:45.130\ David Morgan-Jones: And then when I turn it off, the annotation goes. 431\ 00:37:45.130 --> 00:37:45.750\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 432\ 00:37:45.890 --> 00:37:46.520\ David Morgan-Jones: Got it. 433\ 00:37:47.430 --> 00:37:48.600\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so… 434\ 00:37:48.800 --> 00:38:03.020\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: What you can do, if you're wanting to, sort of, draw the attention to people, is in the middle of your presentation, you can take the annotate tool and draw a big red circle around, say, a road junction. You say, this is the bit we're talking about now. 435\ 00:38:03.020 --> 00:38:10.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And then later on, you can go to another one and do another big red circle, and sort of do it live, if you will, rather than having it all prepared beforehand. 436\ 00:38:10.610 --> 00:38:22.360\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, yeah, no, no, that's what I want to do, is because I want to make it, yeah, and I might put some stuff in there to start off with, and then there'll be loads of things I haven't actually. 437\ 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:26.769\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that was our single whiteboarding question. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 438\ 00:38:26.770 --> 00:38:31.220\ David Morgan-Jones: So, yeah, so I can… Circle. 439\ 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:40.860\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, are your meetings hybrid, or are they meetings where you're actually face-to-face with people? 440\ 00:38:40.860 --> 00:38:48.490\ David Morgan-Jones: a hybrid. Well, it'd be completely, online, because it just means it's so much easier to, 441\ 00:38:49.830 --> 00:38:51.310\ David Morgan-Jones: Accent black spot. 442\ 00:38:52.410 --> 00:39:05.710\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, and sometimes you can… it can be helpful if there's underlying writing from your survey map. If you want to say, you shot hole, for instance, you can change the transparency of your red blob so that you can still see what's underneath. 443\ 00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:22.280\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, no, no, got it. No, that's going to be hugely useful, because I find if you get a focused conversation where you're using mapping, and annotation to make notes, it then means that when we have the meeting with the highways, we can then work out who's… 444\ 00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:24.040\ David Morgan-Jones: Who's gonna do what? 445\ 00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:24.910\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: bit, yes. 446\ 00:39:24.910 --> 00:39:39.799\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, I mean, the problem is that they're responsible, theoretically, they're responsible for everything. The reality is they just don't have enough money or manpower. And there is, money in our kitty, which we put aside each year, to deal with this, and actually never spend it. 447\ 00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:44.300\ David Morgan-Jones: So, and also, I think that, some of the, 448\ 00:39:44.550 --> 00:39:48.939\ David Morgan-Jones: Owners of some of this stuff have got lazy too, and need prodding. 449\ 00:39:49.060 --> 00:39:52.680\ David Morgan-Jones: To get out there and do it, or else we'll do it and charge them. 450\ 00:39:53.500 --> 00:39:57.750\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you know about the Land Registry Cedastral Parcels? 451\ 00:39:57.750 --> 00:40:00.920\ David Morgan-Jones: No. That would be hugely useful, actually. 452\ 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.200\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: eggs again. 453\ 00:40:02.660 --> 00:40:04.340\ David Morgan-Jones: Yep, get rid of that. 454\ 00:40:04.340 --> 00:40:06.920\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And go up to the magnifying glass. 455\ 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:07.390\ David Morgan-Jones: Yep. 456\ 00:40:07.390 --> 00:40:09.069\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Type in cadastrol. 457\ 00:40:10.700 --> 00:40:11.420\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'll just see. 458\ 00:40:11.420 --> 00:40:12.440\ Stuart Bacon: B-I-D. 459\ 00:40:12.700 --> 00:40:13.609\ David Morgan-Jones: the… oat… 460\ 00:40:14.220 --> 00:40:15.620\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: CAD, yep. 461\ 00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:18.740\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah. 462\ 00:40:18.740 --> 00:40:23.869\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And turn them on, and now you've got every known owner of each piece of land. 463\ 00:40:25.980 --> 00:40:28.740\ David Morgan-Jones: How interesting. 464\ 00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:35.660\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, if you click on the number in the middle of each of those squares, or… yeah, click on the number. 465\ 00:40:35.660 --> 00:40:36.250\ David Morgan-Jones: Yup. 466\ 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.099\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And that brings up the record. Go to the left where it says Cadastro Parcels. 467\ 00:40:40.450 --> 00:40:41.160\ David Morgan-Jones: Right. 468\ 00:40:41.160 --> 00:40:44.390\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: left-hand column. And whoa, before we go too quickly. 469\ 00:40:44.390 --> 00:40:44.909\ David Morgan-Jones: You know what? 470\ 00:40:44.910 --> 00:40:47.699\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hover out… oh, no, go back into the bush. 471\ 00:40:47.700 --> 00:40:48.540\ Stuart Bacon: classrooms. 472\ 00:40:48.940 --> 00:40:49.480\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 473\ 00:40:49.670 --> 00:40:50.319\ David Morgan-Jones: Say again? 474\ 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.900\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into the left-hand column, Cad National Parcels. 475\ 00:40:53.110 --> 00:40:53.940\ David Morgan-Jones: Yep. 476\ 00:40:53.940 --> 00:40:57.360\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hover over Inspire ID, the first entry. 477\ 00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:58.040\ David Morgan-Jones: Yep. 478\ 00:40:58.310 --> 00:41:01.849\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you get the little flicker button, so click on that to copy it. 479\ 00:41:01.850 --> 00:41:02.330\ David Morgan-Jones: Yep. 480\ 00:41:02.330 --> 00:41:06.370\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go down to the second entry link, and go into the right-hand button. 481\ 00:41:06.370 --> 00:41:08.630\ Peter Lewis: Helen Everett, WhatsApp Audio. 482\ 00:41:08.630 --> 00:41:09.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup. 483\ 00:41:10.510 --> 00:41:19.200\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And that's taken you to the INSPIRE database, and if you now, when you get there, just paste in there the number you've just copied. 484\ 00:41:19.390 --> 00:41:20.160\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 485\ 00:41:20.870 --> 00:41:22.689\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now it'll tell you about… 486\ 00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:27.310\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, somehow it managed to kill that number. Can you repeat it again? 487\ 00:41:32.240 --> 00:41:34.920\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go. So, if you scroll down… 488\ 00:41:35.420 --> 00:41:38.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: They'll tell you what documentation they've got. 489\ 00:41:38.500 --> 00:41:39.979\ Stuart Bacon: Under the available documents. 490\ 00:41:39.980 --> 00:41:42.420\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you keep going down a bit further, yes, so… 491\ 00:41:42.610 --> 00:41:45.750\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can view the available documents if you pay the money. 492\ 00:41:45.910 --> 00:41:46.580\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, good. 493\ 00:41:46.580 --> 00:41:47.559\ Chris Edwards: 7 pounds. 494\ 00:41:47.560 --> 00:41:49.329\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: 7 pounds a time, but… 495\ 00:41:49.330 --> 00:41:49.850\ David Morgan-Jones: Oops. 496\ 00:41:50.170 --> 00:41:54.029\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It can help if you've got no other way of finding out who owns that particular field. 497\ 00:41:54.030 --> 00:41:57.180\ David Morgan-Jones: Well, I think just having the boundaries is really helpful. 498\ 00:41:57.330 --> 00:42:03.910\ David Morgan-Jones: Because we'll know which side of the boundary becomes highways, Versus… . 499\ 00:42:04.150 --> 00:42:05.160\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: repairing owner. 500\ 00:42:05.160 --> 00:42:05.480\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah. 501\ 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:06.450\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 502\ 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:15.440\ David Morgan-Jones: And then we can write to them, even if it's just the, you know, Badger Lodge app, saying, you know, you've got massive hedges, please do something about it. 503\ 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:16.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Correct. 504\ 00:42:16.270 --> 00:42:22.989\ Stuart Bacon: And are you also aware of the accident data that's within Paris Online? 505\ 00:42:22.990 --> 00:42:23.990\ David Morgan-Jones: No? 506\ 00:42:24.410 --> 00:42:25.899\ Stuart Bacon: Okay, so… 507\ 00:42:25.900 --> 00:42:27.020\ Bob Grainger: From the eggs. 508\ 00:42:27.020 --> 00:42:30.270\ Stuart Bacon: And again, go to the, magnifying glass. 509\ 00:42:30.660 --> 00:42:32.180\ Stuart Bacon: And type in accident. 510\ 00:42:34.220 --> 00:42:36.159\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the magnifying glass again. 511\ 00:42:36.160 --> 00:42:37.790\ David Morgan-Jones: It's alright, yup. 512\ 00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:44.769\ Stuart Bacon: And then that's broken down from Department for Transport every year. 513\ 00:42:47.770 --> 00:42:54.780\ Stuart Bacon: You can turn each of those, and you see there in the crossroads, there in 2023, there was an accident. 514\ 00:42:54.780 --> 00:42:55.500\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, yep. 515\ 00:42:57.010 --> 00:42:59.649\ David Morgan-Jones: there, so I assume these little yellow dots… 516\ 00:43:00.430 --> 00:43:06.029\ Stuart Bacon: Yeah, if you go to… if you go to View, And the legend… 517\ 00:43:11.190 --> 00:43:11.760\ David Morgan-Jones: I see. 518\ 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.140\ Stuart Bacon: The seriousness of the accident. 519\ 00:43:17.630 --> 00:43:19.059\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's a bit small, isn't it? 520\ 00:43:20.710 --> 00:43:28.569\ David Morgan-Jones: But it's, it's very useful, because there's… we've got, little, little spots all the way along here. 521\ 00:43:28.750 --> 00:43:33.269\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, well, if you click on the yellow dot, you can get a bit more information. 522\ 00:43:35.710 --> 00:43:39.899\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep, so go into it on the left column, There you go. 523\ 00:43:40.340 --> 00:43:41.270\ David Morgan-Jones: Wow. 524\ 00:43:42.910 --> 00:43:49.499\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you've got all the references you need to, you know, provide all the information you want to anybody who needs it. 525\ 00:43:50.170 --> 00:43:51.190\ David Morgan-Jones: Wow. 526\ 00:43:51.190 --> 00:43:53.819\ Stuart Bacon: the way I find that to be the most useful. 527\ 00:43:53.930 --> 00:43:57.749\ Stuart Bacon: If you click on the X in the left column at the moment. 528\ 00:43:58.220 --> 00:43:58.850\ David Morgan-Jones: Yup. 529\ 00:43:59.370 --> 00:44:01.910\ Stuart Bacon: And close the legend again as well. 530\ 00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:02.840\ David Morgan-Jones: Yup. 531\ 00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:08.229\ Stuart Bacon: And if you go to the Department for Transport bit at the top. 532\ 00:44:09.010 --> 00:44:10.059\ David Morgan-Jones: This bit here, yeah. 533\ 00:44:10.060 --> 00:44:17.549\ Stuart Bacon: Yep. And… Double… and click on that to turn on all of the… toggle on all of the, 534\ 00:44:17.700 --> 00:44:20.659\ Stuart Bacon: units. So, go to the left a little bit. 535\ 00:44:21.730 --> 00:44:23.730\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And toggle all layers off. 536\ 00:44:24.870 --> 00:44:26.760\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, they're all bunker every year. 537\ 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:28.350\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, brilliant. 538\ 00:44:31.990 --> 00:44:32.889\ Stuart Bacon: So now you can… 539\ 00:44:32.890 --> 00:44:35.480\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That middle one has got 3 or 4 accidents on it, doesn't it? 540\ 00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:52.609\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, it's a notoriously bad… it's a very complicated junction, and this one is running at 60 miles an hour, coming into two 30 mile an hour zones, and the sight line coming down here, if you notice, it's all on the left-hand side. 541\ 00:44:53.300 --> 00:45:00.639\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, left-hand sides, they come up, and they… they whiz up here, and someone's coming out here, and then that's where that… they're normally taken out. 542\ 00:45:01.530 --> 00:45:07.250\ Stuart Bacon: But that might save you a bit of time in having to… not having to re-plot all the, accident details, and… 543\ 00:45:07.250 --> 00:45:17.860\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, no, that's fantastic. It's just a shame. I wonder how that's actually updated, and who has responsibility of updating the DOT's, database. 544\ 00:45:18.100 --> 00:45:25.079\ Rebecca Hunt: I was… I was gonna ask that, because I just looked at 2024, it's showing fatal ones in the town, and I don't think there were any. 545\ 00:45:26.030 --> 00:45:30.929\ Rebecca Hunt: So I'm… for me, so I'm not… I'm not sure how kind of accurate the most recent one is. 546\ 00:45:30.930 --> 00:45:36.869\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if you click on it and find out the data, you can go to your Department of Transport and ask them. 547\ 00:45:36.870 --> 00:45:37.720\ Rebecca Hunt: Okay. 548\ 00:45:37.970 --> 00:45:43.570\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: where the hell did this come from? But… or you might… if you click on it and look at all the data, you might recognize it. 549\ 00:45:44.190 --> 00:45:45.080\ Rebecca Hunt: Okay. 550\ 00:45:47.140 --> 00:45:57.000\ David Morgan-Jones: Cool, and that's really hard, because actually, just those, the, that, combined with the ability to, sort of annotate on the, 551\ 00:45:58.580 --> 00:46:07.330\ David Morgan-Jones: Thing is going to be massively helpful in the conversations, because there's various schools and things who have responsible for vegetation that's pouring over here, for example. 552\ 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.110\ David Morgan-Jones: That, we can then write to the owner. 553\ 00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:13.360\ David Morgan-Jones: Or, who owns this? 554\ 00:46:13.470 --> 00:46:17.870\ David Morgan-Jones: And get them to start, cutting their, their hedges. 555\ 00:46:18.250 --> 00:46:22.979\ David Morgan-Jones: Great stuff. Guys, thank you very much, that's, I hope I remember it long enough. 556\ 00:46:23.730 --> 00:46:30.740\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good. Rebecca, you, don't have any other more questions you'd like to ask yourself? 557\ 00:46:30.740 --> 00:46:40.500\ Rebecca Hunt: I don't think so, no, I just… I was just playing with the tools while you guys were chatting, and I noticed there's, where you can find the walking distance thing. Oh, yes. I didn't know that existed. 558\ 00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:40.950\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 559\ 00:46:40.950 --> 00:46:43.599\ Rebecca Hunt: There's always new stuff you're finding on Parish Online, it's very cool. 560\ 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:49.809\ Rebecca Hunt: But yeah, no, that accident one's very useful, so if anyone ever comes to us saying, oh, this is very dangerous, we can kind of… 561\ 00:46:50.190 --> 00:46:53.399\ Rebecca Hunt: That would be good to kind of present to the council. That's really helpful. 562\ 00:46:53.940 --> 00:47:00.829\ David Morgan-Jones: How do you get… how do you go back to the main thing again? So, I want to get rid of the Department of Transport thing, so how do I now get out of that? 563\ 00:47:00.830 --> 00:47:03.480\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the magnifying glass. 564\ 00:47:04.020 --> 00:47:04.370\ David Morgan-Jones: I was… 565\ 00:47:04.370 --> 00:47:05.160\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I just got… 566\ 00:47:05.160 --> 00:47:06.639\ David Morgan-Jones: And the X, got you. 567\ 00:47:06.980 --> 00:47:08.100\ David Morgan-Jones: Clear the thing. 568\ 00:47:09.950 --> 00:47:12.959\ David Morgan-Jones: So it's CAD and, accident. 569\ 00:47:13.810 --> 00:47:18.570\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. I mean, you can find them by scrolling down, it's just much faster to use the search. 570\ 00:47:18.570 --> 00:47:20.460\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, no, no, no, absolutely. 571\ 00:47:20.460 --> 00:47:22.749\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because there's hundreds of layers for you to play with. 572\ 00:47:24.030 --> 00:47:27.709\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it looks like you want to turn off your cadestral layers, that's for sure. 573\ 00:47:37.240 --> 00:47:39.960\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the anywhere but the tick sign. 574\ 00:47:40.170 --> 00:47:45.210\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, well… Anywhere but there, there you go. 575\ 00:47:45.210 --> 00:47:46.390\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, yeah, got you. 576\ 00:47:48.350 --> 00:47:52.480\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you can turn off the annotation as well, if you wish. 577\ 00:47:53.520 --> 00:48:00.190\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go into Tools Annotate, And… . 578\ 00:48:00.820 --> 00:48:01.600\ Chris Edwards: X. 579\ 00:48:01.600 --> 00:48:04.140\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you… ugh, exactly. 580\ 00:48:06.820 --> 00:48:07.950\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And they're gone. 581\ 00:48:08.300 --> 00:48:15.830\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then your black dot in the middle, which is where you've done a search at some point. The way to get rid of that is to go down to the… 582\ 00:48:16.630 --> 00:48:19.139\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the black dot, I think. 583\ 00:48:19.270 --> 00:48:20.919\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just click on it once. 584\ 00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:26.050\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, okay, you just got your geolocation on, that's where you are, alright. 585\ 00:48:26.050 --> 00:48:27.000\ David Morgan-Jones: That's me. 586\ 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.789\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that is you, yeah. Okay. 587\ 00:48:29.700 --> 00:48:35.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have you checked with GDPR that you're publicizing your details? 588\ 00:48:35.270 --> 00:48:39.350\ David Morgan-Jones: Right. 589\ 00:48:39.350 --> 00:48:41.120\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: My lawyer will be after you as well. 590\ 00:48:42.670 --> 00:48:44.629\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: On your behalf, I shall write to you. 591\ 00:48:46.890 --> 00:48:50.989\ David Morgan-Jones: Super. Thank you very much indeed, guys. That's really useful. 592\ 00:48:51.170 --> 00:48:58.980\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, Andrew, when we started the meeting, I said I had 3 questions, and one of them is going to be asked by you, although you're not aware of it yet. 593\ 00:48:59.960 --> 00:49:02.699\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So good day to you. 594\ 00:49:03.120 --> 00:49:04.240\ Andrew Clegg: Hello? 595\ 00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:13.479\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, the question was the one raised by John Roberts. It says, you and I were both asking similar sort of questions of, CERC. 596\ 00:49:13.670 --> 00:49:16.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, we should be liaising. 597\ 00:49:17.080 --> 00:49:21.200\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if no one else has any questions, we should liaise like crazy right now. 598\ 00:49:21.640 --> 00:49:24.709\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. I've, I've… 599\ 00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:35.220\ Andrew Clegg: I think every county is producing, at the moment, this, what do you call it, nature recovery strategy. 600\ 00:49:35.220 --> 00:49:36.000\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 601\ 00:49:36.310 --> 00:49:39.409\ Andrew Clegg: And Somerset has just produced theirs. 602\ 00:49:40.130 --> 00:49:48.209\ Andrew Clegg: And it involves… A mapping layer, which they have produced, but it's a one-way layer. 603\ 00:49:48.320 --> 00:50:03.049\ Andrew Clegg: Yes. Villages can't… can't, can't, take part in this at all. They can't enter anything, which is a bit silly, because the nature recovery strategy is going to rely very heavily on what 604\ 00:50:03.580 --> 00:50:11.729\ Andrew Clegg: parishioners do in their parish… parishes, and, you know, they'll have to do the work, essentially. They're volunteers. 605\ 00:50:11.730 --> 00:50:12.879\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the problem… 606\ 00:50:13.180 --> 00:50:27.299\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: was, I moved on to biodiversity, and because biodiversity and net gain is now a requirement of all parish councils, I thought if there's any information gathered by SCRC, then it should be available to everyone. 607\ 00:50:27.300 --> 00:50:31.720\ Andrew Clegg: That is… that's going to be the, I think. 608\ 00:50:31.720 --> 00:50:38.359\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adam Reimer was saying, you can't bombard them with too many questions, you and I should get together and make it one query. 609\ 00:50:38.570 --> 00:50:39.080\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 610\ 00:50:39.080 --> 00:50:41.960\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've already been in touch with Stephen Drury, is it? Drury? 611\ 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:52.400\ Andrew Clegg: I've been in touch with somebody, I can't remember who it was, yes, at this, but I haven't taken it any further yet. All I know is that, that this… 612\ 00:50:52.400 --> 00:51:02.529\ Andrew Clegg: Could be potentially very useful for, for working out biodiversity net gain strategies in applications, if we. 613\ 00:51:02.530 --> 00:51:11.810\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, my question to you is, would you please associate my question with yours, and just have one person looking at everything on their behalf, or our behalf. 614\ 00:51:11.810 --> 00:51:15.629\ Andrew Clegg: Who are we going… who are we questioning? Sorry, I'm… I'm reminded, because I'm… 615\ 00:51:15.630 --> 00:51:23.969\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've given the name of Stephen Drury, I think, who is the Somerset Council guy who deals with the Somerset Environment Registry people. 616\ 00:51:23.970 --> 00:51:24.610\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 617\ 00:51:24.860 --> 00:51:30.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: and rather than bombard him with emails from lots of different people, he suggested 618\ 00:51:30.990 --> 00:51:34.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Much like John Andrews does for us with Adam Rybo. 619\ 00:51:34.650 --> 00:51:35.080\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 620\ 00:51:35.080 --> 00:51:37.290\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: do the same for Stephen Drury. 621\ 00:51:37.470 --> 00:51:51.879\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Yes, I could do that. In fact, I think I attended with a Teams meeting the other day of the… of one of the council meetings in which he presented this strategy. 622\ 00:51:52.050 --> 00:52:03.110\ Andrew Clegg: So I think I will contact him, because there are quite a number of other things that I think that need to be clarified in the strategy, which otherwise is rather good. 623\ 00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:09.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you do realize that you're representing 10,000 parish councils who all need exactly the same sort of 624\ 00:52:10.770 --> 00:52:19.279\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: higher authority, so once you've started the wall rolling, you can just turn to Somerset and say, now would you contact everybody else and tell them to get on with it? 625\ 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:31.910\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah, I have approached them about using Parish Online somehow as the mapping, part of the mapping strategy, and the response was, they'll think about it. 626\ 00:52:33.390 --> 00:52:41.060\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is that right? I always find it's very useful when talking to them to say, by the way, they, Geosphere, do all the work. 627\ 00:52:41.650 --> 00:52:42.080\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 628\ 00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:47.159\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: All the people who own the data has to do is to identify it, and… 629\ 00:52:47.660 --> 00:52:49.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And let Geosphere come in and fix it. 630\ 00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:50.870\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 631\ 00:52:50.870 --> 00:52:57.410\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I don't know if you've ever watched them doing it, but it's incredibly fast. It takes literally just a few seconds once they've got access. 632\ 00:52:57.550 --> 00:52:58.190\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 633\ 00:52:58.340 --> 00:52:59.940\ Andrew Clegg: Okay, there is a… 634\ 00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:00.640\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Forever. 635\ 00:53:00.640 --> 00:53:20.619\ Andrew Clegg: The whole thing is out to consultation at the moment, and it might be an idea to just add it to our response for the consultation. Whether they will any… whether they will read any of the consultees, I don't know. But if I email them and say, I've put it all in there, they might. 636\ 00:53:20.620 --> 00:53:21.170\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 637\ 00:53:21.170 --> 00:53:22.230\ Andrew Clegg: We shall see. 638\ 00:53:23.110 --> 00:53:25.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, David, you've got another question. 639\ 00:53:26.660 --> 00:53:36.160\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, just go… just go on the biodiversity on the strategy. In order to do… to… to launch a strategy, you need to know what you've got, surely. 640\ 00:53:36.160 --> 00:53:38.469\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, very good body to start with. 641\ 00:53:38.470 --> 00:53:42.280\ David Morgan-Jones: So… How have you… 642\ 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:52.029\ David Morgan-Jones: done, or how are they proposing that an audit is undertaken with, a bunch of people who, frankly, wouldn't know. 643\ 00:53:52.390 --> 00:53:53.050\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 644\ 00:53:53.370 --> 00:53:54.759\ David Morgan-Jones: butterfly from a moth. 645\ 00:53:55.250 --> 00:54:01.019\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Well, you've got to have one person in your parish who can tell a butterfly from a moth. 646\ 00:54:01.140 --> 00:54:04.330\ Andrew Clegg: And then you've got to have a lot of pairs of wellies. 647\ 00:54:05.900 --> 00:54:08.410\ Andrew Clegg: And you just go and wander around. 648\ 00:54:08.410 --> 00:54:14.100\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And somebody else is going to know about beetles and grasses, and the difference between a weed and a flower, and the rest of it. 649\ 00:54:14.100 --> 00:54:23.780\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah, these are questions which I've asked. There are standard ways of classifying habitats. 650\ 00:54:24.220 --> 00:54:35.049\ Andrew Clegg: And it's all a rather complicated, looking, but when you look in deeply at it, it's basically very fairly straightforward. 651\ 00:54:35.050 --> 00:54:44.399\ Andrew Clegg: And… but I think what needs to happen is that these standard ways of classifying habitats need to… they need a sort of, 652\ 00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:45.889\ Andrew Clegg: Guide for Idiots. 653\ 00:54:46.060 --> 00:54:52.709\ Andrew Clegg: For them, so that they can… the parishioners can do a simple classification of habitats to find out what they've got. 654\ 00:54:54.760 --> 00:55:01.279\ David Morgan-Jones: The only reason I'm fascinated, because we're doing a bit of work with, Surrey Wildlife Trust. 655\ 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:06.549\ David Morgan-Jones: And they have actually done all our… all the mapping for us. 656\ 00:55:06.630 --> 00:55:07.600\ Andrew Clegg: Excellent. 657\ 00:55:07.600 --> 00:55:10.179\ David Morgan-Jones: They've got access to all the… 658\ 00:55:10.490 --> 00:55:24.919\ David Morgan-Jones: you know, the Heathlands, the areas of the ancient woodland maps, the, the various other, sort of, sub-habitat areas. And so, within our parish, they've already done that work for us in terms of big hands, small map. 659\ 00:55:25.580 --> 00:55:45.229\ David Morgan-Jones: But for me, it was more a question of, okay, so we know where the large habitats are, we can make a good guess at what is actually living in those habitats, but what we really need is some sort of record of, the different plant… the fauna and fauna. 660\ 00:55:45.620 --> 00:55:51.590\ David Morgan-Jones: And so we had a debate about that, and they came up with a, 661\ 00:55:51.820 --> 00:55:55.480\ David Morgan-Jones: A website which is used by a lot of the, 662\ 00:55:56.350 --> 00:56:00.910\ David Morgan-Jones: wildlife trusts across the country called iRecord. 663\ 00:56:01.730 --> 00:56:02.530\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 664\ 00:56:02.870 --> 00:56:16.590\ David Morgan-Jones: And there is an issue in terms of… well, I suppose it doesn't really need to be. It's about the relationship between parish online and the data that you can extract from iRecord. 665\ 00:56:17.210 --> 00:56:22.309\ David Morgan-Jones: And actually, there's another mapping software for, 666\ 00:56:22.610 --> 00:56:25.869\ David Morgan-Jones: And the name of which have escapes me, which is a global one. 667\ 00:56:26.130 --> 00:56:32.270\ David Morgan-Jones: Where you can basically… it's an app on your phone, and as you see something… 668\ 00:56:32.270 --> 00:56:33.659\ Andrew Clegg: My naturalist, I think. 669\ 00:56:33.660 --> 00:56:34.549\ David Morgan-Jones: I'm a naturalist, yeah. 670\ 00:56:34.550 --> 00:56:35.520\ Rebecca Hunt: so on, yeah. 671\ 00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:40.800\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah. So, have you guys got any experience of trying to do that on a parish level? 672\ 00:56:41.120 --> 00:57:01.090\ Andrew Clegg: Not… little… little bits of experience. We've got one guy who's a genius with iNaturalist, and can put them there, and… but the rest of us, what we tend to do is, when there's something interesting, we record it, with the sumpt environmental, records. 673\ 00:57:01.460 --> 00:57:09.220\ Andrew Clegg: And that's quite easy to do it online. But that's just recording species. It's essentially recording sightings. 674\ 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:29.179\ Andrew Clegg: what I think matters for us as… certainly with regards to planning, is that we need to record the habitats. And I, some years ago, I'd made a start in our parish, which is fairly easy, because we've not got a great diversity of habitats. 675\ 00:57:29.180 --> 00:57:31.060\ Andrew Clegg: Just drawing them in. 676\ 00:57:31.260 --> 00:57:48.650\ Andrew Clegg: you know, in parish online, so I have got a map with… or I've got several layers. I've got one for, rivers, I've got one for what they call boundaries, which is essentially hedges, or double hedges, or a hedge and a ditch, and things like that. 677\ 00:57:48.900 --> 00:58:04.360\ Andrew Clegg: And then various different kinds of agricultural use, from, unimproved grassland to, to, plowed, you know, and so on. So that map is there. 678\ 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:22.360\ Andrew Clegg: And on that, we can see fairly clearly the important, corridors. They emerge fairly quickly. You can see where the wildlife corridors are, and those are the things that matter when you're talking about biodiversity net gain, is whether you're going to damage a corridor or not. 679\ 00:58:23.300 --> 00:58:34.159\ David Morgan-Jones: Right, we're about to do some major work, actually. We've started off by, looking at our ancient woodlands, because we're quite a unique parish. We've got, 680\ 00:58:35.010 --> 00:58:39.109\ David Morgan-Jones: About 40… just over 40% of our parish is wooded. 681\ 00:58:40.100 --> 00:58:40.700\ Andrew Clegg: Really? 682\ 00:58:40.700 --> 00:58:57.240\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah. Well, it's helped by the fact a huge chunk of our parish is actually MOD training lands, and so that's heavily wooded with, spruce and various other, sort of, conifers, but it's also. 683\ 00:58:57.240 --> 00:58:58.210\ Andrew Clegg: good ordnance. 684\ 00:58:58.210 --> 00:59:05.879\ David Morgan-Jones: unexploded ordnance and lead. It's also got, it's part of the, the, the Heathlands. 685\ 00:59:06.050 --> 00:59:07.990\ David Morgan-Jones: So it has a… 686\ 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:17.430\ David Morgan-Jones: it's a SSSI area, so, it means that nothing's going to be touched. We've also got sang lands, basically lands put aside, which is primarily 687\ 00:59:17.640 --> 00:59:20.400\ David Morgan-Jones: Ancient woodlands, scrub and marsh. 688\ 00:59:20.870 --> 00:59:23.469\ David Morgan-Jones: And then we've got… we've got about… 689\ 00:59:23.590 --> 00:59:26.879\ David Morgan-Jones: 9% of our population is ancient woodland. 690\ 00:59:28.850 --> 00:59:35.539\ David Morgan-Jones: So we, we've done a bit of… quite a bit of work on the ancient woodland bit, and now we're going to be looking at, 691\ 00:59:36.810 --> 00:59:40.339\ David Morgan-Jones: Annotating our corridors and generating corridors. 692\ 00:59:40.610 --> 00:59:43.110\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah, that's important, yeah. 693\ 00:59:43.630 --> 00:59:56.680\ David Morgan-Jones: So, actually, your point about making sure we record the corridors is actually the critical bit, because when we go into the planning bit, it's about whether a… whether they want to cut across a number of our critical corridors. 694\ 00:59:56.680 --> 00:59:57.480\ Andrew Clegg: Hmm. 695\ 00:59:57.740 --> 00:59:58.490\ David Morgan-Jones: Got you. 696\ 00:59:58.830 --> 01:00:10.199\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah, the other thing that I found important after I'd wasted a lot of time is if you're recording a boundary, a corridor, you don't do it with a line, you do it with a long, thin polygon. 697\ 01:00:10.200 --> 01:00:11.050\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 698\ 01:00:12.460 --> 01:00:13.239\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you say… 699\ 01:00:13.240 --> 01:00:25.969\ Andrew Clegg: It will vary… it will vary in thickness, you see. You know, there'll be a bit which is quite wide, and bits which are quite narrow, and you need to show that, I think. But that… it takes an awful long time. 700\ 01:00:26.610 --> 01:00:33.300\ Andrew Clegg: You've got a bad internet connection, you've got 3 quarters of your polygon done, and then it crashes. 701\ 01:00:34.520 --> 01:00:41.860\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you say where you had recorded the wildlife corridors, Andrew? Was it with the Wildlife Trust, or did you do it yourself in your own? 702\ 01:00:41.860 --> 01:01:00.920\ Andrew Clegg: No, we did it ourselves. We've got a little group that walks the parish regularly, and they're fairly knowledgeable, and the other thing you can do, you can… if you switch on the photography, you can get a pretty good idea of where the useful corridors are. 703\ 01:01:01.980 --> 01:01:02.360\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 704\ 01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:05.859\ Andrew Clegg: We'll see the edge widths and trees and so on. 705\ 01:01:07.370 --> 01:01:09.520\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: He's like, I got that with, 706\ 01:01:10.350 --> 01:01:16.640\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: funnily enough, the Greater… the Greater Crested Newt, if you look at their corridors. 707\ 01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:17.050\ Andrew Clegg: time. 708\ 01:01:17.050 --> 01:01:18.349\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: As long as other people. 709\ 01:01:18.650 --> 01:01:20.199\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which was useful. 710\ 01:01:20.200 --> 01:01:37.450\ Andrew Clegg: Yeah, I'm sure there are lots of maps that various people have done, for particular species, but I haven't been… I haven't taken the trouble to find them. Oh, except that I can… I can show you where the shrill Cardo bee is likely to be found. 711\ 01:01:37.450 --> 01:01:41.720\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just check with Chris, who's got a question. 712\ 01:01:41.870 --> 01:01:50.279\ Chris Edwards: No, I didn't want to stop the flow of information regarding what Bruce has been talking about. This is something quite different. 713\ 01:01:53.380 --> 01:01:55.470\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you've succeeded in swapping everything dead? 714\ 01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:02.120\ Chris Edwards: Andrew, I apologize. 715\ 01:02:02.120 --> 01:02:02.730\ Andrew Clegg: Right? 716\ 01:02:04.290 --> 01:02:19.749\ Chris Edwards: Oh, right, okay, without further ado, we were talking… Graham, you mentioned something about the annotations. What I want to do is have a letter drop to residents. 717\ 01:02:19.850 --> 01:02:26.239\ Chris Edwards: And, this is one area of the parish. Second area, there's another one here. 718\ 01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:32.460\ Chris Edwards: Now, if… if I wanted to get the addresses, I would click… 719\ 01:02:32.650 --> 01:02:43.530\ Chris Edwards: on table view. But how… how would… it's asking here, name or number of property? How would… how would I make out a list of the properties 720\ 01:02:43.870 --> 01:02:47.880\ Chris Edwards: that I've put in these two areas. 721\ 01:02:48.010 --> 01:02:55.059\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, how do… if you click in the area itself, is that itself a record? 722\ 01:02:55.170 --> 01:02:58.299\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so if you go to a letter drops for residents. 723\ 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.619\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: and go up to Data Extract. 724\ 01:03:01.980 --> 01:03:06.290\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which is the down arrow, middle, yep, going to there. 725\ 01:03:06.620 --> 01:03:09.159\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And extract from address space. 726\ 01:03:11.170 --> 01:03:13.550\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Plus points, yeah, dress release, plus points, that one. 727\ 01:03:14.470 --> 01:03:19.769\ Chris Edwards: And just… just go ahead and run. Don't bother with anything there, just go ahead. Okay, let me just… 728\ 01:03:20.430 --> 01:03:23.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, what it'll give you is all the addresses within that area. 729\ 01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:25.149\ Chris Edwards: Oh, great! 730\ 01:03:25.150 --> 01:03:25.780\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, wow. 731\ 01:03:25.780 --> 01:03:27.360\ Chris Edwards: Now that I can export the list. 732\ 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:27.970\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 733\ 01:03:28.610 --> 01:03:31.540\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Fantastic. There's some amazing stuff in Python, Ryan. 734\ 01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:34.810\ Rebecca Hunt: I can't believe… I've spent the past 4 years just counting and, like. 735\ 01:03:34.810 --> 01:03:38.479\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm all out. Yeah, it's horrifying, isn't it? 736\ 01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:42.589\ Rebecca Hunt: I'm quite good at figuring out things, but I didn't even know that was an option, I feel like an idiot. 737\ 01:03:42.590 --> 01:03:57.780\ David Morgan-Jones: Can you just re… Chris, can you just redo that from, from… just… just do a quick re… rerun on how you… so you've done the polygons, we've got that, and did you just annotate the polygons? Did you just use the annotate tool to do the polygons? 738\ 01:03:57.780 --> 01:04:03.769\ Chris Edwards: You created a new layer. I did a separate layer, let it drop to residents… 739\ 01:04:03.770 --> 01:04:04.410\ David Morgan-Jones: Right. 740\ 01:04:04.410 --> 01:04:09.920\ Chris Edwards: Okay, I got the polygon… I've given it a polygon, so I drew out the area. 741\ 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:10.870\ David Morgan-Jones: Yep. 742\ 01:04:10.870 --> 01:04:13.940\ Chris Edwards: Coloured it in, and then… 743\ 01:04:14.080 --> 01:04:17.860\ Chris Edwards: I'll just follow what I did before, click on the actual area. 744\ 01:04:18.120 --> 01:04:18.910\ David Morgan-Jones: Yup. 745\ 01:04:18.910 --> 01:04:19.999\ Chris Edwards: Click on that. 746\ 01:04:20.460 --> 01:04:23.790\ Chris Edwards: Click on the downward arrow, Data Extract. 747\ 01:04:23.790 --> 01:04:24.600\ David Morgan-Jones: Right. 748\ 01:04:24.970 --> 01:04:29.700\ Chris Edwards: And then this will… you have then to put in… this would be a blank box. 749\ 01:04:30.160 --> 01:04:30.660\ David Morgan-Jones: Yup. 750\ 01:04:30.660 --> 01:04:35.170\ Chris Edwards: Address-based plus points, and hey presto, click on run. 751\ 01:04:35.170 --> 01:04:35.720\ David Morgan-Jones: Bulls. 752\ 01:04:35.720 --> 01:04:36.700\ Chris Edwards: hand side. 753\ 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:42.530\ Chris Edwards: And it'll give you all the properties within that polygon area. 754\ 01:04:42.860 --> 01:04:54.240\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, more of interest, particularly, perhaps, for Rebecca, is that you can click on the left-hand button at the bottom and export it to a spreadsheet, and then you can do whatever you like with it. 755\ 01:04:55.070 --> 01:05:03.089\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, basically, there's a way of getting all the data you got in Paris Online out for use however you want to use it. 756\ 01:05:03.090 --> 01:05:04.350\ Chris Edwards: That is good. 757\ 01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:09.409\ Chris Edwards: Can I get rid of a lot of this other stuff which I wouldn't want? 758\ 01:05:09.410 --> 01:05:09.889\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, cool. 759\ 01:05:09.890 --> 01:05:11.480\ Chris Edwards: I mean, this is sufficient. 760\ 01:05:11.680 --> 01:05:18.050\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You narrow it down… oh, do you mean the metadata? Well, yes, that's… you export it, and then just delete it all from the spreadsheet. 761\ 01:05:18.050 --> 01:05:19.820\ Chris Edwards: Oh, oh, fair enough, yeah, I could do that. 762\ 01:05:20.190 --> 01:05:28.669\ David Morgan-Jones: Chris, can I just ask a question? You're going to do, a letter drop. How are you going to do the letter drop? Because I've got exactly the same thing that we need to do. 763\ 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:33.250\ Chris Edwards: Oh, just literally volunteers, so Jim will do this portion. 764\ 01:05:33.250 --> 01:05:34.600\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, right, so you're… right. 765\ 01:05:34.600 --> 01:05:38.020\ Chris Edwards: I could… I could do different colors for different areas. 766\ 01:05:38.520 --> 01:05:42.339\ Chris Edwards: And we could do it that way, because this is a very small pack. 767\ 01:05:42.340 --> 01:05:49.029\ David Morgan-Jones: So it's just… it's just a matter of a couple of blokes wandering around, of the houses, shoving leaflets, shoving through the door. 768\ 01:05:49.030 --> 01:05:52.859\ Chris Edwards: I would drive a car to the middle of this area. 769\ 01:05:52.860 --> 01:06:00.109\ David Morgan-Jones: and spend half an hour or less in just literally putting things through letterboxes. Yeah, no, we've got to… And somebody else would do this. 770\ 01:06:00.310 --> 01:06:14.500\ David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, I want to, and maybe somewhere on the line can advise. I need… I want to, send a letter to every single member of the parish, or every household in the parish. 771\ 01:06:16.620 --> 01:06:30.969\ David Morgan-Jones: Now, we've got two options. We either do print and we do what you've done, which is actually physically walk from house to house, dropping a letter through the letterbox, or we pay a bit extra money and we get somebody else to do it, as in, sending a letter. 772\ 01:06:31.210 --> 01:06:38.040\ David Morgan-Jones: Rather like the District Council does. What… what do people generally tend to do? 773\ 01:06:39.090 --> 01:06:43.919\ Chris Edwards: Well, we've done both in the past. We've actually gone to the expense of mailing out everything. 774\ 01:06:44.590 --> 01:06:46.010\ Chris Edwards: At a cost. 775\ 01:06:46.170 --> 01:06:53.940\ Chris Edwards: or we simply do it, you know, literally people walking and posting letters through the boxes. Simple as that. 776\ 01:06:53.990 --> 01:06:55.760\ David Morgan-Jones: Right. You simply run off. 777\ 01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.680\ Chris Edwards: 500 letters on a copying machine. 778\ 01:06:59.730 --> 01:07:04.009\ Rebecca Hunt: it does depend how many… how many households you're talking about as well. Yeah. 779\ 01:07:04.010 --> 01:07:18.259\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, we are in a parish with 500 households, and we have two competing newsletters. One's online, and one is manual, and the manual one is indeed distributed by a couple of people each week. 780\ 01:07:18.620 --> 01:07:30.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, in the days when we were doing things for the entire community, we usually wrote in the postman, and he agreed that since he was going to visit every house anyway, he'd just drop off a letter for each person. 781\ 01:07:30.660 --> 01:07:41.469\ David Morgan-Jones: Oh, that's a good idea! We could just do that, couldn't we? We just… if we do a mail merge, just, because we know our local poster, he's quite a good bloke. 782\ 01:07:42.450 --> 01:07:49.970\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, exactly, and ours is absolutely brilliant, and I'm just looking to see what Rude and Mark 783\ 01:07:49.970 --> 01:07:59.100\ Peter Lewis: Just as a segue to that, then, just as the ex-Operations director of Royal Mail, I'll probably say to you that that wouldn't be a great idea, but it'd be a brilliant idea, of course. 784\ 01:08:02.130 --> 01:08:12.489\ Peter Lewis: service called HDS, Home Delivery Service, which, for which people paid. I don't think they do it anymore, I'm not sure. You could inquire. It's a lot cheaper than First Class Purse, which you certainly wouldn't want to pay for. 785\ 01:08:12.630 --> 01:08:13.450\ Peter Lewis: I know. 786\ 01:08:14.110 --> 01:08:20.699\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: so… Does anybody else feel that they… 787\ 01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:26.619\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Day is going to be ruined if they don't ask one specific question that they've been storing up all hour. 788\ 01:08:27.689 --> 01:08:33.079\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lots of nodding heads, or rather shaking heads, sorry. Talking about two countries… 789\ 01:08:33.370 --> 01:08:42.679\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: divided by the same language. Do you know that in America, shaking your head means nodding, and nodding your head doesn't exist? 790\ 01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:55.630\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very strange, very strange people. Anyway, everyone has shaken their heads, so I'm going to say thank you so much for making this a very interesting session. I hope we persuade you all to come back next time, and have a great weekend. 791\ 01:08:55.930 --> 01:08:56.929\ David Morgan-Jones: Thanks for watching. 792\ 01:08:56.930 --> 01:08:59.270\ Rebecca Hunt: I'll have to come again. Thank you very much.