251024 - 24Oct25 session 25-43

Video Timeline:

00:00 - 03:21 Introductory banter

03:21 - 09:04 Using Addresses

09:04 - 10:40 Adding labels using Style

10:40 - 12:38 Depicting the data in Table View

12:38 - 18:45 Publishing data via Public Map

18:45 - 23:27 GDPR implications

22:37 - 24:01 Ordnance Survey outage

24:01 - 36:53 Annotation

36:53 - 38:57 Land Registry Cadastral Parcels

38:57 - 46:25 Department of Transport Accidents layers

46:25 - 50:00 Mapping Local Nature Recovery Strategy maps into Parish Online

50:00 - 65:59(end) Biodiversity audit - banter, IRecord, `Address Plus points, export to spreadsheets, newsletter delivery

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Meeting Summary:

Quick recap

The meeting began with discussions about banking and technical issues related to screen sharing and mapping projects, including the demonstration of various mapping tools and features for displaying historical residents and property information. The group explored GDPR implications for publishing personal data and addressed upcoming Ordnance Survey maintenance that could impact Parish Online's public links. The session concluded with discussions about mapping critical road network issues, using annotation tools for specific areas of interest, and exploring options for distributing letters to residents through various delivery methods.

Next steps

• Rebecca: Email support at Parish-online.co.uk to check if the Ordnance Survey maintenance outage from 7th to 9th November will affect Parish Online

• Andrew: Contact Stephen Drury at Somerset Council to consolidate questions about the Somerset Environment Registry and biodiversity net gain strategies, representing Graham's questions as well

• Andrew: Add Parish Online mapping integration suggestion to the consultation response for Somerset's nature recovery strategy

Summary

Nat West Banking Call Update

Graham spent 13.5 hours on hold with Nat West to confirm that nothing had changed regarding his personal banking situation. He mentioned having a presentation prepared but clarified it was not for the current meeting. Chris joined the conversation, noting that it was raining in Somerset, while Graham commented on the beautiful weather where he was.

Screen Sharing and Property Exercise

Peter demonstrated a screen-sharing issue and received technical assistance from Graham to resolve it. Once the sharing was successful, Peter showed a map with a red dot on an old thatched property and explained his goal of creating an exercise to allocate individuals to different properties at various times and dates.

Historical Resident Mapping Solution

Peter discussed a mapping project where he wants to display historical residents on buildings, with the ability to see names when hovering over dots. Graham suggested using the label feature to show 2025 residents directly on the map, while also maintaining the ability to view 2020 and other years through table view or detailed inspection. The solution allows Peter to see all names in a scrollable table format when zoomed out, and to view individual records by clicking on them, with the option to return to map view.

Public Map Creation and GDPR

Graham guided Peter through the process of creating a public map in their system, explaining how to adjust settings and generate a URL for sharing. They discussed GDPR considerations, emphasizing the need for explicit permission from individuals whose data is being shared. Bob raised a question about whether family names and addresses constitute personally identifiable information, which Graham and Stuart addressed by explaining that the combination of these details could identify individuals, even if each piece of information is common.

Data Privacy and Road Mapping

The group discussed GDPR implications for publishing personal data, with David explaining that combining names with specific addresses makes data personal and requires consent. They also addressed an upcoming Ordnance Survey maintenance outage from November 7-9, with Rebecca raising concerns about its impact on Parish Online's public links for remembrance events, and Graham suggested checking with [e-mail]. David concluded by describing his goal to use Parish Online to map and address critical road network issues within the parish, as current reporting systems through Hampshire Highways are challenging to track.

Road Issue Mapping Tool Discussion

David explained the need to identify critical issues on roads using Parish Online, focusing on annotating problems like potholes and drainage issues on a map. Graham and Chris discussed a technical issue with scrolling in the annotation tool, which Stuart resolved by suggesting reducing the browser zoom. The conversation ended with Stuart successfully assisting Chris with the problem.

Map Annotation Tools Training

David and Graham discussed technical issues related to viewing and annotating a map, including zooming, selecting tools, and creating annotations for specific areas of interest. David explained the need to mark localized flooding areas caused by a blocked drain, and Graham guided him through the process of using tools like polygons and labels to highlight these issues. Stuart suggested pulling flood zones from the Environment Agency but was informed that the flooding was highly localized. David successfully created annotations for flooding and hedge cutting, and Graham demonstrated how to view all annotations on a single map layer.

Annotate Tool and Land Registry

Graham demonstrated how to use the annotate tool in a presentation, showing David how to draw red circles on maps to highlight specific areas during a meeting. They discussed the tool's ability to be used live during presentations and its transparency feature, which allows underlying map details to be seen. David expressed interest in using this tool to identify responsibilities and allocate tasks during meetings with highways departments. Graham also introduced David to the Land Registry Cadastral Parcels feature, which provides information on land ownership, and demonstrated how to access and use this database.

Property Boundary and Accident Data Analysis

The group discussed using Ordnance Survey's PowerShell Online tool to view property boundaries and accident data. David noted that boundary information would help determine which side of boundaries becomes highways versus private property, while Stuart demonstrated how to access accident data from the Department for Transport, which can be useful for identifying dangerous intersections and writing to property owners about vegetation management. Rebecca raised a concern about the accuracy of recent accident data, and Graham suggested checking the source data or contacting the Department for Transport for verification.

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Chat:

01:07:38 Stuart Bacon: Leaflet distribution https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1368823061912826&id=100063554351223&rdid=JDd8rOKn8Kzph6TG#

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Audio-transcript:

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1 00:02:59.600 --> 00:03:00.830 Stuart Bacon: I should.

2 00:03:01.160 --> 00:03:03.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: How dare you? You're very muffled.

3 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:10.620 Stuart Bacon: I'm muffled. Oh, not now, you were just speaking. I think it was just your normal, low voice.

4 00:03:10.980 --> 00:03:11.830 Stuart Bacon: Oh, okay.

5 00:03:15.830 --> 00:03:20.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've just come off 13 and a half hours on hold with Nat West.

6 00:03:20.900 --> 00:03:26.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: to get an answer, which I already had the answer to, but they've just confirmed that nothing's changed.

7 00:03:28.250 --> 00:03:29.920 Stuart Bacon: Sounds like a joyous day!

8 00:03:29.920 --> 00:03:30.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

9 00:03:37.820 --> 00:03:41.530 Stuart Bacon: Was that personal, or was that, council stuff?

10 00:03:41.530 --> 00:03:43.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It was personal.

11 00:03:54.860 --> 00:03:57.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now then, can I do a fancy underline?

12 00:03:57.820 --> 00:03:59.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes!

13 00:04:06.390 --> 00:04:08.360 Stuart Bacon: Have we got a presentation today?

14 00:04:11.600 --> 00:04:18.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It was weird, isn't it? Best people are getting in the habit of not many arriving to the last second. I've got the…

15 00:04:18.980 --> 00:04:25.260 Stuart Bacon: Sorry, I was thinking… you were saying with your… can you do your fancy underline? I thought you were putting a presentation together for this afternoon.

16 00:04:25.260 --> 00:04:30.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, no, no, no, no, sorry. No, this is the result of the tet with the bank.

17 00:04:30.670 --> 00:04:31.770 Stuart Bacon: Okay.

18 00:04:31.770 --> 00:04:33.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, there we go. Hi, Chris!

19 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.300 Chris Edwards: Oh, good afternoon, all!

20 00:04:36.300 --> 00:04:39.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And is, Somerset bathed in sunshine?

21 00:04:39.980 --> 00:04:49.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, it's been pissing down with rain 10 minutes ago. Well, you should, you should come over here, it's wonderful. Most gorgeous thing.

22 00:04:49.840 --> 00:04:50.290 Chris Edwards: Yeah.

23 00:04:50.290 --> 00:04:50.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: today.

24 00:04:51.770 --> 00:04:52.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hi, Peter!

25 00:04:53.080 --> 00:04:59.539 Peter Lewis: Hi, Graham, and Somerset… well, the bit of Somerset I'm in is beautiful sunshine, so I don't know why you…

26 00:05:00.880 --> 00:05:04.250 Chris Edwards: Actually, it's brightening up as I look out of the window.

27 00:05:05.500 --> 00:05:07.790 Peter Lewis: No, it's obviously coming your way then, isn't it?

28 00:05:07.970 --> 00:05:08.760 Chris Edwards: Yeah.

29 00:05:09.780 --> 00:05:11.350 Peter Lewis: Whichever that way might be.

30 00:05:26.660 --> 00:05:35.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I know that Peter's got questions, and I know that two other people are joining who theoretically have got questions, but Peter, since you're here.

31 00:05:35.860 --> 00:05:39.019 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Why don't you start the ball rolling with us, if you'd like to?

32 00:05:39.300 --> 00:05:46.370 Peter Lewis: Okay, well, it's a… I emailed Graham earlier today to ask this very simple question, which, I'll…

33 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.830 Peter Lewis: I'll try and explain.

34 00:05:49.080 --> 00:05:59.090 Peter Lewis: Perhaps if I share my screen, that might be easier, because I can show you then. Would that be sensible? Yeah, go for it. Let me just so that I can work out how to do that, I want to do it with,

35 00:05:59.880 --> 00:06:05.529 Peter Lewis: However, if I just do my desktop, that will do… that's fine, do that, and then switch.

36 00:06:08.260 --> 00:06:09.849 Peter Lewis: Let's do that, I don't know.

37 00:06:12.570 --> 00:06:16.859 Peter Lewis: Can you… you have to tell me what you can see, I don't know. Can you see… you see…

38 00:06:17.020 --> 00:06:18.079 Peter Lewis: Saying that.

39 00:06:18.250 --> 00:06:19.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not sharing at the moment, no.

40 00:06:19.820 --> 00:06:23.689 Peter Lewis: Are you seeing… You're not seeing anything.

41 00:06:23.690 --> 00:06:30.939 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, in Zoom, it's a two-step operation. You go to the bottom of the Zoom screen and find a green share button.

42 00:06:30.940 --> 00:06:32.630 Peter Lewis: Hi, guys. Bye.

43 00:06:32.630 --> 00:06:33.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go to the bottom of.

44 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.830 Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that. So…

45 00:06:36.260 --> 00:06:43.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you find… that opens a screen with all the windows that you've got open on, and you select the one you want, and then you have to press another.

46 00:06:44.200 --> 00:06:46.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Share in the bottom right corner.

47 00:06:49.020 --> 00:06:53.099 Peter Lewis: Maybe it's… let me try this one, then. Let me just try that, share that.

48 00:06:53.330 --> 00:06:56.260 Peter Lewis: It says Open System Settings, what's that all about?

49 00:06:56.260 --> 00:06:59.790 Stuart Bacon: No, that's not… Anything to do with it?

50 00:06:59.790 --> 00:07:04.329 Peter Lewis: It says privacy and security to grant access. It probably doesn't want to do that.

51 00:07:04.900 --> 00:07:08.450 Peter Lewis: You're on a Mac? Bull, boy.

52 00:07:09.250 --> 00:07:10.370 Peter Lewis: Yeah, I am.

53 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:11.949 Peter Lewis: Yeah, it sounds like it.

54 00:07:11.950 --> 00:07:15.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you probably do want to grant access, then, to Zoom.

55 00:07:18.640 --> 00:07:20.090 Peter Lewis: How do I do that, then?

56 00:07:20.090 --> 00:07:22.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go up to the top left corner and click on…

57 00:07:22.410 --> 00:07:27.070 Peter Lewis: Yeah, I've done that. Yeah, okay, that works, that works, okay.

58 00:07:27.620 --> 00:07:29.100 Peter Lewis: Shouldn't I work?

59 00:07:29.510 --> 00:07:32.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mr. Granger, good afternoon to you, stranger.

60 00:07:32.850 --> 00:07:33.909 Bob Grainger: Hello, how are you?

61 00:07:33.910 --> 00:07:39.469 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good to see you. It's good to see you. You look like you're sort of in some thick mist of some sort.

62 00:07:39.670 --> 00:07:40.280 Bob Grainger: Am I? Oh.

63 00:07:40.280 --> 00:07:42.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I think you have to polish your camera lens.

64 00:07:42.670 --> 00:07:44.599 Bob Grainger: Well, yes, maybe.

65 00:07:44.900 --> 00:07:47.269 Bob Grainger: I only came because I heard there was going to be cake.

66 00:07:51.540 --> 00:07:55.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon, Rebecca, good afternoon, Andrew. There we go, Peter, you found it.

67 00:07:57.340 --> 00:08:02.210 Peter Lewis: Okay, so you… so… It's nearly there, hasn't quite got here yet.

68 00:08:02.210 --> 00:08:04.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, no we can, no we can't.

69 00:08:04.470 --> 00:08:10.789 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can see, you can see that, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so, let me just do that, allow that.

70 00:08:11.080 --> 00:08:20.600 Peter Lewis: So, you can see there, in the middle of the screen, the old thatch, and what I've done there is I've dropped a… I've dropped a red dot on it.

71 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:21.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

72 00:08:21.530 --> 00:08:41.450 Peter Lewis: Which, what I wanted to do, so you understand, is I'm trying to create, for an exercise, who lives in which property, and I want to be able to allocate the individuals to the… who's living in that property, and maybe on… and maybe at different times in different years, different dates.

73 00:08:41.929 --> 00:08:59.670 Peter Lewis: So I thought, well, if I… I wanted to try and drop a text on that said that I'm living there now. If I… if I click on that, you'll see, if I go, you know, in residence, that's… you can see in 2025, it's me, and in 2020, it was somebody called Bell. That's as an exercise.

74 00:08:59.670 --> 00:09:00.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

75 00:09:01.270 --> 00:09:08.929 Peter Lewis: But that isn't really… so the way I've done that is to, is to… is to create that… create a layer which I've called Residence.

76 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:26.819 Peter Lewis: and then add columns for 2020 and 2025. Then I've got to populate those with the relevant people in those dates, as I've done, Bell and Lewis. And then, in order to be able… and then I can turn that layout on and off, that red dot, I've dropped a red dot, I can turn that red dot on and off.

77 00:09:27.010 --> 00:09:32.769 Peter Lewis: And see, from the, table on the side. Who was there?

78 00:09:33.150 --> 00:09:34.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So…

79 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:51.479 Peter Lewis: that's fine, but that… what I really want to be able to do is to drop the actual names on the screen, rather than a red dot, or maybe to be able to hover over that red dot and see what's behind it in the dataset, rather than having to

80 00:09:52.700 --> 00:09:57.520 Peter Lewis: Fiddle around to find each individual one. Does that make sense?

81 00:09:58.340 --> 00:10:06.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, and are you only interested in showing one at a time? So if you've got a whole bunch of those, you don't want to show them all at once, necessarily?

82 00:10:06.610 --> 00:10:08.160 Peter Lewis: What, you mean a whole bunch of.

83 00:10:08.160 --> 00:10:12.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: one for each building, presumably, in due course. You'll end up with the names for each building.

84 00:10:12.280 --> 00:10:25.150 Peter Lewis: In due course, I'll end up with a name on every building, and maybe multiple names on each building, because there's more than, you know, over different periods in time, different people will have been there. Yes, exactly.

85 00:10:25.300 --> 00:10:28.919 Peter Lewis: I'm… I'm relaxed about whether I show them

86 00:10:30.290 --> 00:10:38.860 Peter Lewis: all at once, or… I understand the concept, like, the difficulty with squashing lots of text onto the map, so it's difficult to do that.

87 00:10:39.370 --> 00:10:40.320 Peter Lewis: But…

88 00:10:40.470 --> 00:10:47.079 Peter Lewis: Being able to roll over, for instance, and see that there is text behind a dot, and then identify what that text is.

89 00:10:47.410 --> 00:10:50.430 Peter Lewis: Might be… might be a solution.

90 00:10:50.920 --> 00:11:09.510 Peter Lewis: Or maybe when the map's at a given size, you know, when it's zoomed out to a certain size, where more text would be available, and then you scroll through, you know, you scroll left and right on the map, so that the text isn't squashed, as it… to make, for instance, might be a solution.

91 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.610 Peter Lewis: But probably not…

92 00:11:12.760 --> 00:11:20.640 Peter Lewis: What's not a solution is probably just to have no availability of that text except in that side panel, because it's too fiddly to…

93 00:11:20.750 --> 00:11:24.640 Peter Lewis: get to. You've got to go through 2 or 3 clicks to get to each individual one.

94 00:11:24.790 --> 00:11:26.060 Peter Lewis: Does that make sense?

95 00:11:26.060 --> 00:11:26.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

96 00:11:28.090 --> 00:11:29.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So…

97 00:11:29.450 --> 00:11:35.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've offered a suggestion to you, but before I go into that now, I'll just ask if anyone else has any ideas.

98 00:11:41.490 --> 00:11:44.639 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, you're going into my little black book of people who…

99 00:11:44.930 --> 00:11:48.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It should be full of advice, but aren't.

100 00:11:52.190 --> 00:11:53.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh.

101 00:11:53.230 --> 00:11:57.230 Peter Lewis: Stuart's scratching his head, because he's thinking, why on earth does he want to do this anyway?

102 00:11:57.230 --> 00:12:02.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know. Well, no, what I suggested was that you, put in those two

103 00:12:02.930 --> 00:12:13.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Fields, as you have done, and then you select one of them, say the 2025 one, as a label in style, and then that will show you all the ones that have got current

104 00:12:14.160 --> 00:12:15.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: names.

105 00:12:15.550 --> 00:12:19.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you want to dig further, you can just, as you say, double-click on them and go into the…

106 00:12:20.060 --> 00:12:23.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: this. So, if you were… do you know how to do labels?

107 00:12:23.730 --> 00:12:27.380 Peter Lewis: Well, no, clearly not, because I didn't quite understand.

108 00:12:27.380 --> 00:12:32.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so if you click on the X at the top of the left column and close your residence.

109 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:41.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And go to your layer, which is the residence layer, and mouse over the click, the tick, yes, and go down, sorry.

110 00:12:42.140 --> 00:12:43.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into Style.

111 00:12:48.810 --> 00:12:55.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now you've got 4 columns across the screen, the left-hand column, where it says Style Options.

112 00:12:55.260 --> 00:13:02.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You go down to where it says label column, and click on that, and just make the 2025 field your label.

113 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just leave it like that for the moment.

114 00:13:06.770 --> 00:13:08.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just to click on Save.

115 00:13:15.910 --> 00:13:19.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you'll see that there is a name for 2025, Lewis.

116 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:27.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that would show you that that record at least has got one item in it, and I think

117 00:13:27.710 --> 00:13:33.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you wanted to see who was there in 2020 or 2019, whatever it was, you're gonna have to do the click.

118 00:13:34.020 --> 00:13:35.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: To go into the record itself.

119 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:40.469 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or, the other way, of course, is to do a table view.

120 00:13:40.670 --> 00:13:47.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you, go to the tick and hover over it and select Table View.

121 00:13:50.400 --> 00:13:54.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then you can see the names there in the two left-hand columns.

122 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:55.390 Peter Lewis: Yeah.

123 00:13:55.390 --> 00:13:59.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And again, if you've got a whole village full, it'll just be a table that you can scroll down.

124 00:14:00.380 --> 00:14:06.939 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And one of the beauties of table view is that if you highlight that record by clicking on it once.

125 00:14:07.750 --> 00:14:16.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then down the bottom of your screen, which we can't see, so you may need to be in full screen mode. So if you click on the full screen thing on the black line.

126 00:14:16.950 --> 00:14:20.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Halfway up, halfway up, on the right-hand side. Yes, click that.

127 00:14:20.990 --> 00:14:23.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go. And you can now click on…

128 00:14:24.040 --> 00:14:27.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you highlight your record by clicking on it once.

129 00:14:29.850 --> 00:14:33.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it highlighted? Yeah, okay, so now click on the View on Map button.

130 00:14:34.900 --> 00:14:36.789 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it takes you straight to it.

131 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:45.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So again, if you had 15 of those there, and you clicked on one of them in the table view, it would take you on the map directly to that particular record.

132 00:14:47.190 --> 00:14:47.990 Peter Lewis: Right.

133 00:14:47.990 --> 00:14:58.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that's a way that you could do this, because the table view will show you all the names for anybody else, so if you, you know, you may go back a century, for all I know, in due course.

134 00:14:58.690 --> 00:15:08.569 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you'll be able to sort them that way. You can also filter on them in that table, so that you say, I only want to see the 2025 column, or something like that.

135 00:15:08.880 --> 00:15:09.420 Peter Lewis: Yeah.

136 00:15:09.420 --> 00:15:12.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's all possible. I'm not sure if this answers your question.

137 00:15:13.740 --> 00:15:21.400 Peter Lewis: Yeah, I think it probably does. I think it probably does. I need to play with it to work out whether I've remembered everything you've told me, but I think that probably does.

138 00:15:21.830 --> 00:15:27.120 Peter Lewis: answer my question. Well, the other thing you said, though, is what happens if I…

139 00:15:27.450 --> 00:15:31.390 Peter Lewis: What happens if I do that? Yeah, okay, so that's interesting.

140 00:15:31.830 --> 00:15:35.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so it's adjusting.

141 00:15:35.090 --> 00:15:38.570 Peter Lewis: Yeah, it's adjusting that to fit into the screen. That's fine.

142 00:15:38.570 --> 00:15:43.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Okay, may I ask a supplementary question, then, while I've got you? Which is…

143 00:15:43.620 --> 00:15:49.239 Peter Lewis: Let's assume I've now created this map, and it's got lots of names in it, and I want to…

144 00:15:49.390 --> 00:15:55.280 Peter Lewis: When I… when we were last on, a couple of three weeks ago,

145 00:15:55.530 --> 00:15:59.310 Peter Lewis: Went through a process that allowed us to provide a hyperlink to it.

146 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.399 Peter Lewis: With the… with the, ability to…

147 00:16:03.400 --> 00:16:04.590 Stuart Bacon: bookmark Persian.

148 00:16:05.100 --> 00:16:09.280 Peter Lewis: Yeah, I couldn't recall what it was, and I… I didn't…

149 00:16:09.570 --> 00:16:13.969 Peter Lewis: Sorry, I didn't bother to go back to the video to find it. Well, I knew I was going to talk to you anyway.

150 00:16:13.970 --> 00:16:14.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and…

151 00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:17.139 Peter Lewis: Remind me how I would do that, please.

152 00:16:17.580 --> 00:16:21.650 Stuart Bacon: You were… you would be caught with GDPR in this instance.

153 00:16:22.990 --> 00:16:29.650 Peter Lewis: But I… I… That's why in my email to,

154 00:16:30.520 --> 00:16:38.369 Peter Lewis: I said… well, you didn't see that, but in my email earlier, when I was explaining what I was trying to do, I said, with their permission.

155 00:16:38.640 --> 00:16:39.550 Peter Lewis: Quotes.

156 00:16:39.690 --> 00:16:41.739 Peter Lewis: Because I completely understand that.

157 00:16:42.040 --> 00:16:46.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And where are you going to publish this? Because it will be public information with a public map.

158 00:16:47.650 --> 00:16:55.195 Peter Lewis: I might not publish it anywhere, but I… I… I… I might, .

159 00:16:56.750 --> 00:16:58.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, let's just run through it very quickly. If you go.

160 00:16:58.750 --> 00:17:14.379 Peter Lewis: So, just to go back to that, just to go to the GDPR point, because of course, I do understand that if you're going to publish personal information that is from a database, then it falls under the GDPR rules, which means that it has to be

161 00:17:14.380 --> 00:17:25.979 Peter Lewis: agreed to by the people whose data you are sharing, I understand that. So, assuming I had that agreement from all those people that I was sharing their data, assuming they…

162 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:33.859 Peter Lewis: had done that, then it would be public information, and presumably could be shared. Yeah, is that correct?

163 00:17:35.150 --> 00:17:44.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you can make it public information if you've had their permission, and the permission has been specifically for publicizing it. Yeah.

164 00:17:44.190 --> 00:17:44.790 Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

165 00:17:44.790 --> 00:17:47.639 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if you went up to the cogwheel in the top right.

166 00:17:48.540 --> 00:17:49.500 Peter Lewis: Yeah.

167 00:17:49.860 --> 00:17:52.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on that and select Administration.

168 00:17:53.090 --> 00:17:53.740 Peter Lewis: Yeah.

169 00:17:54.070 --> 00:17:58.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then the left-hand side, you've got something called Public Maps.

170 00:17:58.730 --> 00:17:59.679 Peter Lewis: Yes.

171 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:04.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, if you want to add a new one, for instance, you could just click on the plus sign in the second column.

172 00:18:06.660 --> 00:18:18.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then the system walks through what you want to do. So this screen, you select what sort of map you want to display. Is it going to be a photograph? Is it going to be a detailed map? Is it going to be open data, which is a bit less detailed?

173 00:18:18.410 --> 00:18:24.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So whichever one you select, it gets highlighted in green, so you've got open data selected here, so you can go to next.

174 00:18:25.230 --> 00:18:27.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this next is going to…

175 00:18:27.790 --> 00:18:33.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Select all the layers from your, stuff.

176 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:34.230 Chris Edwards: Residential.

177 00:18:34.590 --> 00:18:36.980 Peter Lewis: So I need to find that one.

178 00:18:36.980 --> 00:18:37.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

179 00:18:38.080 --> 00:18:40.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then that's the only one you want, so click on that.

180 00:18:41.130 --> 00:18:45.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then the next layer, you don't want any of them, so click on it again.

181 00:18:47.390 --> 00:18:48.310 Peter Lewis: Yeah.

182 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:56.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this is just where do you want the map to open first when they see it? So bear in mind that you're talking to your general public.

183 00:18:57.050 --> 00:18:59.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You actually think you want to zoom in a bit on Pitney.

184 00:19:00.170 --> 00:19:01.000 Peter Lewis: Yep.

185 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:04.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so, just… just zoom in, do you click on the… yeah.

186 00:19:05.730 --> 00:19:07.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And scroll up a bit.

187 00:19:07.550 --> 00:19:11.669 Peter Lewis: I cannot find an easy way to do… I should be able to do that zooming much easier, shouldn't I?

188 00:19:11.670 --> 00:19:12.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

189 00:19:12.580 --> 00:19:14.370 Peter Lewis: There we are, yeah, okay, fine.

190 00:19:14.550 --> 00:19:18.220 Peter Lewis: I can. That's the beauty of being on the Mac, isn't it?

191 00:19:18.540 --> 00:19:21.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, that's fine. So, click on next.

192 00:19:23.080 --> 00:19:28.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And give it a title, just to remind you what it is. The title isn't seen by anybody else.

193 00:19:32.130 --> 00:19:37.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, on the column on the right called Start Layers.

194 00:19:37.520 --> 00:19:46.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You, by default, the residence layer will show, but you can let for it to be just switched on or off by the users.

195 00:19:47.100 --> 00:19:49.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which will happen anyway, but…

196 00:19:49.700 --> 00:19:57.070 Peter Lewis: If I… if I select this as being off now, then they'll have to switch it on. If I select it as being on now, can they switch it off?

197 00:19:57.070 --> 00:19:57.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

198 00:19:57.830 --> 00:20:00.019 Peter Lewis: Okay, so it doesn't matter either way in that sense, does it?

199 00:20:00.020 --> 00:20:01.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In this case, no.

200 00:20:01.730 --> 00:20:02.650 Peter Lewis: And where we want to start.

201 00:20:02.650 --> 00:20:04.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just click on Save.

202 00:20:04.860 --> 00:20:05.820 Peter Lewis: Yeah, okay.

203 00:20:06.290 --> 00:20:16.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, of those two addresses, the top one is just a straight URL, which you can send to anybody, and the bottom one is the code that your web manager will want for his.

204 00:20:16.490 --> 00:20:17.000 Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

205 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:18.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Village website.

206 00:20:18.140 --> 00:20:18.940 Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

207 00:20:18.940 --> 00:20:19.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

208 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:20.450 Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah.

209 00:20:20.450 --> 00:20:24.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I just couldn't remember where we did that before, so thank you for…

210 00:20:24.850 --> 00:20:26.400 Peter Lewis: Walking me through that, that's how…

211 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's all right, and then to go back to your maps, you just click on the globe at the top right.

212 00:20:31.190 --> 00:20:36.669 Peter Lewis: So these, oh, so I just want to grab those for a minute, but that's okay.

213 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:38.960 Peter Lewis: Good. You too.

214 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just go… if you open up a new tab in your browser.

215 00:20:42.760 --> 00:20:45.220 Peter Lewis: I'm gonna do that. And just paste, paste it in.

216 00:20:46.020 --> 00:20:52.390 Peter Lewis: I'm going there, and there, and there… And… It's…

217 00:20:53.120 --> 00:20:55.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Colby will do fine? Yep, that'll… okay.

218 00:20:56.010 --> 00:20:57.069 Peter Lewis: It's, useful.

219 00:20:57.070 --> 00:20:59.209 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's just like magic, isn't it? Yeah.

220 00:20:59.430 --> 00:21:03.080 Peter Lewis: Yep, perfect. That's exactly what I wanted to achieve.

221 00:21:03.080 --> 00:21:03.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good.

222 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:15.999 Peter Lewis: Yet another in hundreds of thousands of satisfied customers. So I can turn it off… I can turn it off like that, and turn it back on. Yeah, no, yeah, no, that is exactly what I wanted to be able to demonstrate.

223 00:21:17.370 --> 00:21:19.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mr. Granger has his hand raised.

224 00:21:19.520 --> 00:21:19.950 Bob Grainger: I do.

225 00:21:19.950 --> 00:21:28.550 Peter Lewis: Hello, Mr. Can I just… let me… can I just come… I… I got rid of all your faces a moment ago, I've got to find them again.

226 00:21:28.840 --> 00:21:30.539 Bob Grainger: I have a query.

227 00:21:31.250 --> 00:21:32.010 Peter Lewis: -

228 00:21:32.940 --> 00:21:42.729 Peter Lewis: Can I just… let me just, let me just come back to Zoom. There we are. Okay, I… I don't know what… can you see this… can you see the map still? I've just switched out of it, but nobody can still see it.

229 00:21:42.730 --> 00:21:45.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, yes, we can see it. Okay, that's fine.

230 00:21:45.620 --> 00:21:53.970 Bob Grainger: My query concerns the GDPR. If you're only publishing the family names, why is that personally identifiable information?

231 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.669 Bob Grainger: Because we've done…

232 00:21:57.670 --> 00:21:58.940 Stuart Bacon: family name, and…

233 00:21:58.940 --> 00:22:01.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Seeing where is the address is the problem, dog.

234 00:22:01.550 --> 00:22:05.150 Bob Grainger: But isn't the phone book the same thing?

235 00:22:06.230 --> 00:22:06.990 David Morgan-Jones: Yes.

236 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:07.920 David Morgan-Jones: It is.

237 00:22:08.070 --> 00:22:10.519 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you opt in or out of the phone book, don't you, nowadays?

238 00:22:10.520 --> 00:22:12.350 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, you do, if one exists.

239 00:22:12.350 --> 00:22:15.109 Bob Grainger: You can opt out, but you're automatically opted in.

240 00:22:15.900 --> 00:22:19.250 Bob Grainger: Before opt-in, you are in unless you're opt-out.

241 00:22:19.250 --> 00:22:26.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, but I don't think the same could be said for Parish Online. People don't even know it exists, neither opted into it or not.

242 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:32.130 Bob Grainger: But the point I'm making is we've just done a similar sort of thing here. We have a terrace of cottages.

243 00:22:32.230 --> 00:22:48.190 Bob Grainger: They're all constructed about the same time, about 150 years ago, about 20 of them, and a group of people had done research and traced the occupants of every house back since they were constructed, and we published a photo map

244 00:22:48.450 --> 00:22:57.169 Bob Grainger: A panorama map that's about a meter wide, with a history of all the houses, with all the people in them, including their current occupants.

245 00:22:57.780 --> 00:23:06.809 Bob Grainger: And no thought was given to GDPR then, because the assumption was it's only family name and the address.

246 00:23:07.180 --> 00:23:12.240 David Morgan-Jones: I… I've just checked… Bob, I've just checked on, ChatGPT, and I'll quote.

247 00:23:12.470 --> 00:23:19.330 David Morgan-Jones: Under GDPR, personal data means any information that can identify a living person

248 00:23:19.430 --> 00:23:24.639 David Morgan-Jones: A living person, so if they're dead, it doesn't matter. Directly or indirectly.

249 00:23:24.890 --> 00:23:29.520 David Morgan-Jones: A surname alone, like Smith, usually isn't personal data.

250 00:23:29.770 --> 00:23:33.659 David Morgan-Jones: But once it's placed on a specific property.

251 00:23:33.830 --> 00:23:39.800 David Morgan-Jones: say, Smith, written over 42 Elm Road, it almost certainly is personal data.

252 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:44.029 David Morgan-Jones: Because the data now identifies who lives or owns that property.

253 00:23:44.030 --> 00:23:44.820 Bob Grainger: Okay.

254 00:23:45.780 --> 00:23:49.910 Bob Grainger: That's interesting. So it's not the name or the address, but it's the name and the address.

255 00:23:49.910 --> 00:24:00.450 David Morgan-Jones: Yes. And the way in which you get around it is you need to seek permission from the current people, whether they are happy for them to be… their name to be…

256 00:24:00.620 --> 00:24:04.290 Bob Grainger: Published, and once you do that, you become.

257 00:24:04.360 --> 00:24:06.360 David Morgan-Jones: Unfortunately, a data controller.

258 00:24:06.360 --> 00:24:07.460 Bob Grainger: Yes.

259 00:24:08.550 --> 00:24:10.460 Stuart Bacon: I have to register with the ICO.

260 00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:10.920 Bob Grainger: Yeah.

261 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.000 Peter Lewis: Accordingly.

262 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:15.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, not to worry, my lawyer will be in touch with yours shortly.

263 00:24:16.780 --> 00:24:30.239 Peter Lewis: Can I… is it just a… not to make this a GDPR conversation particularly, but if that data were already in the public domain, so, for instance, as a company director, my information, and where I live.

264 00:24:30.340 --> 00:24:39.089 Peter Lewis: is in the public domain, you can find it in company status register. I have no control over whether it's in there alright. I haven't asked my permission, it's just there.

265 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:49.540 Stuart Bacon: Decent says the company's house include that you know that you… your data will be published on their website. So, yes, it does a… you have

266 00:24:49.700 --> 00:25:06.890 Stuart Bacon: inadvertently agreed to, by publishing data, that it will be there. And, if you then publish any information on your parish council site, that then says the parish council is the data controller using that information, whether that's obtained from another source or not.

267 00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:08.780 Peter Lewis: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

268 00:25:08.780 --> 00:25:10.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: complicated,

269 00:25:10.520 --> 00:25:22.870 Peter Lewis: Well, yeah, absolutely, exactly. But anyway, that doesn't… that's fine, because it doesn't… that's not going to be, for my purposes in the… in the short run, that's not an issue anyway. But, that's very helpful,

270 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:27.040 Peter Lewis: Graham, explaining that to me. I'm very grateful.

271 00:25:27.040 --> 00:25:33.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you'd like to stop sharing your screen, yeah, thank you. Then, let me just check, Rebecca, did you arrive with a particular question in mind?

272 00:25:33.660 --> 00:25:35.470 Rebecca Hunt: No, no, I was just gonna…

273 00:25:36.320 --> 00:25:37.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: employer.

274 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:51.860 Rebecca Hunt: loiter, see what's happening. I do have one very quick question. We got an email from Ordnance Survey saying there's going to be an outage. They're doing some maintenance from the 7th to the 9th of November. Is that going to be affecting Parish Online?

275 00:25:52.690 --> 00:25:54.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I don't think so.

276 00:25:54.550 --> 00:25:55.020 Rebecca Hunt: Okay.

277 00:25:55.020 --> 00:25:57.369 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think they'll be working on copies.

278 00:25:57.470 --> 00:26:15.219 Rebecca Hunt: That's fine, that's fine, just because we have our remembrance stuff that weekend, I just want to make sure that… because I use the public link, kind of, for these events, because, of course, when you take a screenshot of something, it's not always clear, but I've got… I've really got into using the public links to share event maps, so people can see things very clearly.

279 00:26:15.220 --> 00:26:18.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I think it's a very good question to ask.

280 00:26:18.290 --> 00:26:24.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you were in a position in your email at the moment, you could write an email to support at

281 00:26:24.510 --> 00:26:27.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Parish-online.co.uk, and just ask them.

282 00:26:28.140 --> 00:26:29.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because I think it's well worth checking.

283 00:26:29.930 --> 00:26:38.589 Rebecca Hunt: Yeah, just to double check. I'm sure it might be fine, but I do know it uses OS data in Paris Online, so I think anything that's linked might…

284 00:26:39.290 --> 00:26:42.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly, so why don't you check with them and find out?

285 00:26:42.120 --> 00:26:44.020 Rebecca Hunt: Will do. Alright, thank you.

286 00:26:44.020 --> 00:26:49.629 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so, David, you have the seat of honor as being someone who's arrived with a question.

287 00:26:50.750 --> 00:26:53.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And yes, David, that David, that David.

288 00:26:54.110 --> 00:27:01.260 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, what from… you want to be… should I bring up the question I had last… the week I managed to completely avoid you?

289 00:27:01.260 --> 00:27:11.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so I didn't know whether our 5-minute chat at the very last minute to the last hour had solved your issue, or whether you wanted to go into it in more detail.

290 00:27:11.270 --> 00:27:17.969 David Morgan-Jones: Okay, let me put the use case to you. What I want to do is use the, Parish Online.

291 00:27:18.360 --> 00:27:24.369 David Morgan-Jones: To look at the, the whole of the road network within the parish.

292 00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:28.480 David Morgan-Jones: And use it as a tool

293 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:34.680 David Morgan-Jones: To identify what are the critical problems that we've got to try and resolve.

294 00:27:34.950 --> 00:27:42.649 David Morgan-Jones: At the moment, like, I think most of you, we've, for those, at sort of parish level, we've got…

295 00:27:42.770 --> 00:27:52.980 David Morgan-Jones: We… most people report their problems of, roads directly to the Highways Authority, in our case, Hampshire Highways.

296 00:27:53.830 --> 00:28:01.280 David Morgan-Jones: But we also get a lot of stuff coming in through the parish, and it's very difficult to track. And some of the bigger stuff.

297 00:28:01.490 --> 00:28:05.540 David Morgan-Jones: Like, clearing…

298 00:28:05.550 --> 00:28:24.810 David Morgan-Jones: hedgerows is a combination of highways and the riparian owner. And so what we've got to do is identify where we have particular issues, and then work out. And I thought it would be much easier if we could use Parish Online to work our way through each of the individual roads.

299 00:28:24.890 --> 00:28:26.880 David Morgan-Jones: And identifying

300 00:28:27.620 --> 00:28:36.950 David Morgan-Jones: on the road itself, where there's a critical problem. And then, rather like Peter brought up, how do we annotate it on the map

301 00:28:37.110 --> 00:28:39.760 David Morgan-Jones: As though I was using it as a whiteboard.

302 00:28:40.130 --> 00:28:49.379 David Morgan-Jones: To identify what the problem is, you know, pothole, you know, drainage, a ditch needs, draining, etc.

303 00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:53.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, would you like to share your screen with us?

304 00:28:53.420 --> 00:28:59.399 David Morgan-Jones: I certainly will. Let me just get, parish Online up and running.

305 00:29:08.590 --> 00:29:16.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whilst he's doing that, Chris, let me just check in with you. You never fail to arrive with some helpful little query. You've got one up your sleeve today.

306 00:29:16.610 --> 00:29:19.480 Chris Edwards: Yes, but I'm gonna let you introduce…

307 00:29:20.130 --> 00:29:23.829 Chris Edwards: I'm gonna let you introduce the, annotation tool.

308 00:29:24.030 --> 00:29:24.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

309 00:29:24.500 --> 00:29:32.860 Chris Edwards: I've got a question to ask once you've finished your blurb on annotations.

310 00:29:32.860 --> 00:29:34.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, good. Thank you.

311 00:29:37.010 --> 00:29:44.300 David Morgan-Jones: Do you want to, Chris, do you want to deal with yours? I, I'm… my, login's, playing city, what's it?

312 00:29:45.590 --> 00:29:49.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, Chris's question will probably vary depending on what I say to you.

313 00:29:49.930 --> 00:29:55.459 Chris Edwards: Okay, so this is a very simple query I've got.

314 00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:59.129 Chris Edwards: I've already set up, this annotation.

315 00:29:59.910 --> 00:30:07.260 Chris Edwards: And if I want to do another annotation, Any object.

316 00:30:07.530 --> 00:30:11.670 Chris Edwards: I'll use, an area this time.

317 00:30:13.670 --> 00:30:15.469 Chris Edwards: Use label, yes.

318 00:30:16.420 --> 00:30:22.440 Chris Edwards: Now, I… I'm trying to scroll down to, input.

319 00:30:22.800 --> 00:30:25.400 Chris Edwards: what I want in the label, but I can't.

320 00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:30.510 Chris Edwards: And I've noticed that this has occurred about 3 or 4 months ago.

321 00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:36.600 Chris Edwards: Previously, I could scroll down and insert the words to use in the label.

322 00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:38.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. But I physically cannot.

323 00:30:38.780 --> 00:30:41.080 Chris Edwards: Get down to that point.

324 00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:43.530 Chris Edwards: Have you had the same problem?

325 00:30:43.790 --> 00:30:47.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you're using Microsoft, so I have no idea.

326 00:30:48.470 --> 00:30:52.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But, that's a new question, Chris, I've not come across that before.

327 00:30:52.980 --> 00:30:54.410 Chris Edwards: I mean, I'll certainly.

328 00:30:54.410 --> 00:31:00.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I always turn to Stuart in these cases, because he's probably double-checking what you're doing. Yeah.

329 00:31:00.070 --> 00:31:06.730 Stuart Bacon: First question for you then, Chris. Have you got a scroll, button on your mouse?

330 00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:08.179 Chris Edwards: Yes, I have.

331 00:31:08.530 --> 00:31:12.489 Stuart Bacon: And you scroll, using your mouse button, Open up.

332 00:31:12.490 --> 00:31:15.320 Chris Edwards: I'm doing it right now, and I can't go up or down.

333 00:31:15.520 --> 00:31:21.479 Stuart Bacon: Okay. Second option then, in the top right-hand corner of the browser are the three dots.

334 00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:22.940 Chris Edwards: Yep.

335 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:31.749 Stuart Bacon: Click on that… And then on Zoom, reduce the zoom down there.

336 00:31:31.750 --> 00:31:33.060 Chris Edwards: I say!

337 00:31:33.060 --> 00:31:34.200 Stuart Bacon: A few points.

338 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:34.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

339 00:31:34.590 --> 00:31:35.790 Chris Edwards: It's worked.

340 00:31:35.790 --> 00:31:36.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now we can, well done.

341 00:31:36.980 --> 00:31:37.350 Stuart Bacon: And then…

342 00:31:37.350 --> 00:31:38.310 Chris Edwards: How are you finished?

343 00:31:38.310 --> 00:31:40.100 Stuart Bacon: Now you can see and undo.

344 00:31:41.180 --> 00:31:45.090 Chris Edwards: In fact, thank you ever so much, Stuart. I hadn't considered that.

345 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:49.729 Chris Edwards: No worries. Okay, you answered my query. Thank you.

346 00:31:50.280 --> 00:31:53.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, we're hitting 3 for 3 so far today. Pretty good.

347 00:31:53.100 --> 00:31:58.660 Chris Edwards: I shall, Long, stop sharing.

348 00:31:59.160 --> 00:31:59.900 Chris Edwards: There we go.

349 00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:00.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thanks, Chris.

350 00:32:02.170 --> 00:32:04.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you a prepared man now, David?

351 00:32:06.180 --> 00:32:07.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

352 00:32:10.420 --> 00:32:12.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: By the way, David, you're on mute.

353 00:32:15.220 --> 00:32:17.620 David Morgan-Jones: Sorry, that doesn't help. Can you see the map?

354 00:32:17.830 --> 00:32:18.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

355 00:32:19.460 --> 00:32:21.190 Chris Edwards: Could you go full screen?

356 00:32:21.810 --> 00:32:23.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I know.

357 00:32:26.520 --> 00:32:27.879 David Morgan-Jones: On my full screen, can you see it all?

358 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if you go up to the top right, the little square, isn't it?

359 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:32.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Got a bit further to go yet.

360 00:32:35.430 --> 00:32:44.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All the way… oh, you've probably got photographs in the way. The top right of your browser, next to the X, there's a square, which, if you click on it, might take you a bit further.

361 00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:54.319 David Morgan-Jones: screen. Oh, I tell you what I have a problem with, is if I stop it, right, if I just reshare that…

362 00:32:54.750 --> 00:33:02.329 David Morgan-Jones: And… I've got too many damn things, Ernie.

363 00:33:06.310 --> 00:33:21.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You remind me of the time when I used to run a help desk, and someone was told that the solution to their problem when they were calling about this, how slow their computer was, was to shut some windows. And we literally heard them walking around the room.

364 00:33:23.710 --> 00:33:25.620 David Morgan-Jones: No, I'm not.

365 00:33:26.830 --> 00:33:29.970 Stuart Bacon: Have you got a widescreen screen, David, or have you got a…

366 00:33:29.970 --> 00:33:33.269 David Morgan-Jones: I have, yeah, I have got a, a widescreen.

367 00:33:34.580 --> 00:33:35.350 Stuart Bacon: Okay.

368 00:33:35.350 --> 00:33:38.079 David Morgan-Jones: And you don't want to see my PCB design.

369 00:33:38.570 --> 00:33:41.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Unless you're particularly interested in electronic boards.

370 00:33:41.220 --> 00:33:41.980 David Morgan-Jones: Nope.

371 00:33:43.150 --> 00:33:46.169 Chris Edwards: I mean, why don't you just zoom in and keep the…

372 00:33:46.170 --> 00:33:46.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

373 00:33:46.990 --> 00:33:47.680 David Morgan-Jones: Can you see that?

374 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:48.050 Chris Edwards: it is.

375 00:33:48.250 --> 00:33:52.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, keep zooming, keep zooming, because you want to show some crossroads and things, don't you?

376 00:33:52.700 --> 00:33:55.999 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, zooming, zooming, zooming, like that. Okay.

377 00:33:57.350 --> 00:34:02.030 David Morgan-Jones: So, let me just… Yeah, that's it.

378 00:34:02.030 --> 00:34:08.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Select somewhere that's going to be of interest to your discussion, that you're going to highlight to your audience.

379 00:34:09.080 --> 00:34:12.820 David Morgan-Jones: Right, just here…

380 00:34:13.370 --> 00:34:14.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Here we go, yep.

381 00:34:14.780 --> 00:34:20.859 David Morgan-Jones: We have a road here, and we have this. So we always have an area of flooding.

382 00:34:21.080 --> 00:34:26.509 David Morgan-Jones: In this area here, because this drain… this, stream is blocked.

383 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:27.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

384 00:34:28.650 --> 00:34:35.770 David Morgan-Jones: So, what I want to be able to do is to, sort of put a marker around it.

385 00:34:35.949 --> 00:34:38.030 David Morgan-Jones: And then put flooding.

386 00:34:38.499 --> 00:34:46.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so if you go up to Tools Annotate, And click on New Object.

387 00:34:47.729 --> 00:34:51.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you're going to presumably do a poly… yeah, exactly.

388 00:34:53.129 --> 00:34:54.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Polygon.

389 00:34:54.399 --> 00:34:55.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then just draw…

390 00:34:57.250 --> 00:34:59.589 Stuart Bacon: So, I was gonna say, before you do that, why not…

391 00:35:00.460 --> 00:35:05.149 Stuart Bacon: Drawing the floods… pulling the flood zones from the environment agencies, wouldn't that?

392 00:35:05.620 --> 00:35:08.760 David Morgan-Jones: No, they're highly localized floods.

393 00:35:08.870 --> 00:35:09.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's a…

394 00:35:09.590 --> 00:35:10.470 David Morgan-Jones: tiny.

395 00:35:10.720 --> 00:35:11.330 Stuart Bacon: Oh, okay.

396 00:35:11.900 --> 00:35:14.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: contains blocked with leaves or things.

397 00:35:14.020 --> 00:35:18.630 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, it's because no one's actually, no one's actually gone through and cleared them.

398 00:35:18.980 --> 00:35:24.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go to the left-hand column, David, and say Use Label, and just click in that box…

399 00:35:25.230 --> 00:35:26.080 David Morgan-Jones: Gotcha.

400 00:35:26.080 --> 00:35:28.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And put in what you wanted to say, like flooding.

401 00:35:31.110 --> 00:35:32.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And finish.

402 00:35:32.610 --> 00:35:33.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

403 00:35:33.850 --> 00:35:36.250 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, nice blue color, that looks good.

404 00:35:36.410 --> 00:35:37.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, finish it.

405 00:35:40.490 --> 00:35:44.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you can zoom out to the next one, if you like.

406 00:35:46.740 --> 00:35:53.560 David Morgan-Jones: So, actually, along… Actually, I'll go to the 287, which is down here.

407 00:35:54.700 --> 00:36:00.360 David Morgan-Jones: And… So, it's a new object.

408 00:36:00.670 --> 00:36:03.149 David Morgan-Jones: And if I just go to a polygon.

409 00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:09.190 David Morgan-Jones: So I'll just… I'll just conf… you know, I'll do this one more time, and… Sir, agree to…

410 00:36:09.300 --> 00:36:15.740 David Morgan-Jones: That we've now got… So, this is a new feature.

411 00:36:21.240 --> 00:36:22.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hitch cutting, yes.

412 00:36:28.340 --> 00:36:29.909 David Morgan-Jones: There we go, brilliant, I've got it.

413 00:36:30.050 --> 00:36:37.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, one more thing for you, Dave. If you close down that left-hand column, This one here. Yeah.

414 00:36:37.870 --> 00:36:48.209 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you go to that second item along from the right, in the head of that column, you've got the little… the magnifying glass on the right, and then you've got the one next to it.

415 00:36:49.030 --> 00:36:49.680 David Morgan-Jones: Yep.

416 00:36:49.680 --> 00:36:51.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on the one next to it.

417 00:36:51.510 --> 00:36:52.100 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah.

418 00:36:52.490 --> 00:36:55.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's called Annotation layer. Yeah, just click on it.

419 00:36:55.830 --> 00:36:56.380 David Morgan-Jones: Yep.

420 00:36:56.950 --> 00:36:57.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nope.

421 00:36:58.030 --> 00:37:08.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: woo. What it's supposed to do is to show all the annotations on your screen on a map that everyone can see it at once, so it usually scales the map to show

422 00:37:08.910 --> 00:37:14.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: everything… But it didn't do it automatically, that's interesting. Well, at least they've turned them on.

423 00:37:15.130 --> 00:37:19.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that… You can turn your annotations on or off individually.

424 00:37:19.830 --> 00:37:28.210 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, it is, it is, it is toggling it on, but unfortunately, what it seems to have gone is they've actually got it the wrong way around, visually, on the icon.

425 00:37:28.850 --> 00:37:32.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, well, if you push it on, it goes on, right?

426 00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:33.060 David Morgan-Jones: Yup, there you go.

427 00:37:33.060 --> 00:37:34.539 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's got an underline there.

428 00:37:34.540 --> 00:37:40.170 David Morgan-Jones: I think what's happened was, when I went into annotate, it automatically put annotate on.

429 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hmm, okay.

430 00:37:42.450 --> 00:37:45.130 David Morgan-Jones: And then when I turn it off, the annotation goes.

431 00:37:45.130 --> 00:37:45.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

432 00:37:45.890 --> 00:37:46.520 David Morgan-Jones: Got it.

433 00:37:47.430 --> 00:37:48.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so…

434 00:37:48.800 --> 00:38:03.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What you can do, if you're wanting to, sort of, draw the attention to people, is in the middle of your presentation, you can take the annotate tool and draw a big red circle around, say, a road junction. You say, this is the bit we're talking about now.

435 00:38:03.020 --> 00:38:10.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And then later on, you can go to another one and do another big red circle, and sort of do it live, if you will, rather than having it all prepared beforehand.

436 00:38:10.610 --> 00:38:22.360 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, yeah, no, no, that's what I want to do, is because I want to make it, yeah, and I might put some stuff in there to start off with, and then there'll be loads of things I haven't actually.

437 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:26.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that was our single whiteboarding question. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

438 00:38:26.770 --> 00:38:31.220 David Morgan-Jones: So, yeah, so I can… Circle.

439 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:40.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, are your meetings hybrid, or are they meetings where you're actually face-to-face with people?

440 00:38:40.860 --> 00:38:48.490 David Morgan-Jones: a hybrid. Well, it'd be completely, online, because it just means it's so much easier to,

441 00:38:49.830 --> 00:38:51.310 David Morgan-Jones: Accent black spot.

442 00:38:52.410 --> 00:39:05.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, and sometimes you can… it can be helpful if there's underlying writing from your survey map. If you want to say, you shot hole, for instance, you can change the transparency of your red blob so that you can still see what's underneath.

443 00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:22.280 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, no, no, got it. No, that's going to be hugely useful, because I find if you get a focused conversation where you're using mapping, and annotation to make notes, it then means that when we have the meeting with the highways, we can then work out who's…

444 00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:24.040 David Morgan-Jones: Who's gonna do what?

445 00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:24.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: bit, yes.

446 00:39:24.910 --> 00:39:39.799 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, I mean, the problem is that they're responsible, theoretically, they're responsible for everything. The reality is they just don't have enough money or manpower. And there is, money in our kitty, which we put aside each year, to deal with this, and actually never spend it.

447 00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:44.300 David Morgan-Jones: So, and also, I think that, some of the,

448 00:39:44.550 --> 00:39:48.939 David Morgan-Jones: Owners of some of this stuff have got lazy too, and need prodding.

449 00:39:49.060 --> 00:39:52.680 David Morgan-Jones: To get out there and do it, or else we'll do it and charge them.

450 00:39:53.500 --> 00:39:57.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you know about the Land Registry Cedastral Parcels?

451 00:39:57.750 --> 00:40:00.920 David Morgan-Jones: No. That would be hugely useful, actually.

452 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: eggs again.

453 00:40:02.660 --> 00:40:04.340 David Morgan-Jones: Yep, get rid of that.

454 00:40:04.340 --> 00:40:06.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And go up to the magnifying glass.

455 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:07.390 David Morgan-Jones: Yep.

456 00:40:07.390 --> 00:40:09.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Type in cadastrol.

457 00:40:10.700 --> 00:40:11.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'll just see.

458 00:40:11.420 --> 00:40:12.440 Stuart Bacon: B-I-D.

459 00:40:12.700 --> 00:40:13.609 David Morgan-Jones: the… oat…

460 00:40:14.220 --> 00:40:15.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: CAD, yep.

461 00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:18.740 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah.

462 00:40:18.740 --> 00:40:23.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And turn them on, and now you've got every known owner of each piece of land.

463 00:40:25.980 --> 00:40:28.740 David Morgan-Jones: How interesting.

464 00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:35.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, if you click on the number in the middle of each of those squares, or… yeah, click on the number.

465 00:40:35.660 --> 00:40:36.250 David Morgan-Jones: Yup.

466 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And that brings up the record. Go to the left where it says Cadastro Parcels.

467 00:40:40.450 --> 00:40:41.160 David Morgan-Jones: Right.

468 00:40:41.160 --> 00:40:44.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: left-hand column. And whoa, before we go too quickly.

469 00:40:44.390 --> 00:40:44.909 David Morgan-Jones: You know what?

470 00:40:44.910 --> 00:40:47.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hover out… oh, no, go back into the bush.

471 00:40:47.700 --> 00:40:48.540 Stuart Bacon: classrooms.

472 00:40:48.940 --> 00:40:49.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

473 00:40:49.670 --> 00:40:50.319 David Morgan-Jones: Say again?

474 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into the left-hand column, Cad National Parcels.

475 00:40:53.110 --> 00:40:53.940 David Morgan-Jones: Yep.

476 00:40:53.940 --> 00:40:57.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hover over Inspire ID, the first entry.

477 00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:58.040 David Morgan-Jones: Yep.

478 00:40:58.310 --> 00:41:01.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you get the little flicker button, so click on that to copy it.

479 00:41:01.850 --> 00:41:02.330 David Morgan-Jones: Yep.

480 00:41:02.330 --> 00:41:06.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go down to the second entry link, and go into the right-hand button.

481 00:41:06.370 --> 00:41:08.630 Peter Lewis: Helen Everett, WhatsApp Audio.

482 00:41:08.630 --> 00:41:09.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup.

483 00:41:10.510 --> 00:41:19.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And that's taken you to the INSPIRE database, and if you now, when you get there, just paste in there the number you've just copied.

484 00:41:19.390 --> 00:41:20.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

485 00:41:20.870 --> 00:41:22.689 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now it'll tell you about…

486 00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:27.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, somehow it managed to kill that number. Can you repeat it again?

487 00:41:32.240 --> 00:41:34.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go. So, if you scroll down…

488 00:41:35.420 --> 00:41:38.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They'll tell you what documentation they've got.

489 00:41:38.500 --> 00:41:39.979 Stuart Bacon: Under the available documents.

490 00:41:39.980 --> 00:41:42.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you keep going down a bit further, yes, so…

491 00:41:42.610 --> 00:41:45.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can view the available documents if you pay the money.

492 00:41:45.910 --> 00:41:46.580 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, good.

493 00:41:46.580 --> 00:41:47.559 Chris Edwards: 7 pounds.

494 00:41:47.560 --> 00:41:49.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: 7 pounds a time, but…

495 00:41:49.330 --> 00:41:49.850 David Morgan-Jones: Oops.

496 00:41:50.170 --> 00:41:54.029 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It can help if you've got no other way of finding out who owns that particular field.

497 00:41:54.030 --> 00:41:57.180 David Morgan-Jones: Well, I think just having the boundaries is really helpful.

498 00:41:57.330 --> 00:42:03.910 David Morgan-Jones: Because we'll know which side of the boundary becomes highways, Versus… .

499 00:42:04.150 --> 00:42:05.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: repairing owner.

500 00:42:05.160 --> 00:42:05.480 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah.

501 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:06.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

502 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:15.440 David Morgan-Jones: And then we can write to them, even if it's just the, you know, Badger Lodge app, saying, you know, you've got massive hedges, please do something about it.

503 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:16.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Correct.

504 00:42:16.270 --> 00:42:22.989 Stuart Bacon: And are you also aware of the accident data that's within Paris Online?

505 00:42:22.990 --> 00:42:23.990 David Morgan-Jones: No?

506 00:42:24.410 --> 00:42:25.899 Stuart Bacon: Okay, so…

507 00:42:25.900 --> 00:42:27.020 Bob Grainger: From the eggs.

508 00:42:27.020 --> 00:42:30.270 Stuart Bacon: And again, go to the, magnifying glass.

509 00:42:30.660 --> 00:42:32.180 Stuart Bacon: And type in accident.

510 00:42:34.220 --> 00:42:36.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the magnifying glass again.

511 00:42:36.160 --> 00:42:37.790 David Morgan-Jones: It's alright, yup.

512 00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:44.769 Stuart Bacon: And then that's broken down from Department for Transport every year.

513 00:42:47.770 --> 00:42:54.780 Stuart Bacon: You can turn each of those, and you see there in the crossroads, there in 2023, there was an accident.

514 00:42:54.780 --> 00:42:55.500 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, yep.

515 00:42:57.010 --> 00:42:59.649 David Morgan-Jones: there, so I assume these little yellow dots…

516 00:43:00.430 --> 00:43:06.029 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, if you go to… if you go to View, And the legend…

517 00:43:11.190 --> 00:43:11.760 David Morgan-Jones: I see.

518 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.140 Stuart Bacon: The seriousness of the accident.

519 00:43:17.630 --> 00:43:19.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's a bit small, isn't it?

520 00:43:20.710 --> 00:43:28.569 David Morgan-Jones: But it's, it's very useful, because there's… we've got, little, little spots all the way along here.

521 00:43:28.750 --> 00:43:33.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, well, if you click on the yellow dot, you can get a bit more information.

522 00:43:35.710 --> 00:43:39.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep, so go into it on the left column, There you go.

523 00:43:40.340 --> 00:43:41.270 David Morgan-Jones: Wow.

524 00:43:42.910 --> 00:43:49.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you've got all the references you need to, you know, provide all the information you want to anybody who needs it.

525 00:43:50.170 --> 00:43:51.190 David Morgan-Jones: Wow.

526 00:43:51.190 --> 00:43:53.819 Stuart Bacon: the way I find that to be the most useful.

527 00:43:53.930 --> 00:43:57.749 Stuart Bacon: If you click on the X in the left column at the moment.

528 00:43:58.220 --> 00:43:58.850 David Morgan-Jones: Yup.

529 00:43:59.370 --> 00:44:01.910 Stuart Bacon: And close the legend again as well.

530 00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:02.840 David Morgan-Jones: Yup.

531 00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:08.229 Stuart Bacon: And if you go to the Department for Transport bit at the top.

532 00:44:09.010 --> 00:44:10.059 David Morgan-Jones: This bit here, yeah.

533 00:44:10.060 --> 00:44:17.549 Stuart Bacon: Yep. And… Double… and click on that to turn on all of the… toggle on all of the,

534 00:44:17.700 --> 00:44:20.659 Stuart Bacon: units. So, go to the left a little bit.

535 00:44:21.730 --> 00:44:23.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And toggle all layers off.

536 00:44:24.870 --> 00:44:26.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, they're all bunker every year.

537 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:28.350 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, brilliant.

538 00:44:31.990 --> 00:44:32.889 Stuart Bacon: So now you can…

539 00:44:32.890 --> 00:44:35.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That middle one has got 3 or 4 accidents on it, doesn't it?

540 00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:52.609 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, it's a notoriously bad… it's a very complicated junction, and this one is running at 60 miles an hour, coming into two 30 mile an hour zones, and the sight line coming down here, if you notice, it's all on the left-hand side.

541 00:44:53.300 --> 00:45:00.639 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, left-hand sides, they come up, and they… they whiz up here, and someone's coming out here, and then that's where that… they're normally taken out.

542 00:45:01.530 --> 00:45:07.250 Stuart Bacon: But that might save you a bit of time in having to… not having to re-plot all the, accident details, and…

543 00:45:07.250 --> 00:45:17.860 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, no, that's fantastic. It's just a shame. I wonder how that's actually updated, and who has responsibility of updating the DOT's, database.

544 00:45:18.100 --> 00:45:25.079 Rebecca Hunt: I was… I was gonna ask that, because I just looked at 2024, it's showing fatal ones in the town, and I don't think there were any.

545 00:45:26.030 --> 00:45:30.929 Rebecca Hunt: So I'm… for me, so I'm not… I'm not sure how kind of accurate the most recent one is.

546 00:45:30.930 --> 00:45:36.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if you click on it and find out the data, you can go to your Department of Transport and ask them.

547 00:45:36.870 --> 00:45:37.720 Rebecca Hunt: Okay.

548 00:45:37.970 --> 00:45:43.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: where the hell did this come from? But… or you might… if you click on it and look at all the data, you might recognize it.

549 00:45:44.190 --> 00:45:45.080 Rebecca Hunt: Okay.

550 00:45:47.140 --> 00:45:57.000 David Morgan-Jones: Cool, and that's really hard, because actually, just those, the, that, combined with the ability to, sort of annotate on the,

551 00:45:58.580 --> 00:46:07.330 David Morgan-Jones: Thing is going to be massively helpful in the conversations, because there's various schools and things who have responsible for vegetation that's pouring over here, for example.

552 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.110 David Morgan-Jones: That, we can then write to the owner.

553 00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:13.360 David Morgan-Jones: Or, who owns this?

554 00:46:13.470 --> 00:46:17.870 David Morgan-Jones: And get them to start, cutting their, their hedges.

555 00:46:18.250 --> 00:46:22.979 David Morgan-Jones: Great stuff. Guys, thank you very much, that's, I hope I remember it long enough.

556 00:46:23.730 --> 00:46:30.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good. Rebecca, you, don't have any other more questions you'd like to ask yourself?

557 00:46:30.740 --> 00:46:40.500 Rebecca Hunt: I don't think so, no, I just… I was just playing with the tools while you guys were chatting, and I noticed there's, where you can find the walking distance thing. Oh, yes. I didn't know that existed.

558 00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:40.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

559 00:46:40.950 --> 00:46:43.599 Rebecca Hunt: There's always new stuff you're finding on Parish Online, it's very cool.

560 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:49.809 Rebecca Hunt: But yeah, no, that accident one's very useful, so if anyone ever comes to us saying, oh, this is very dangerous, we can kind of…

561 00:46:50.190 --> 00:46:53.399 Rebecca Hunt: That would be good to kind of present to the council. That's really helpful.

562 00:46:53.940 --> 00:47:00.829 David Morgan-Jones: How do you get… how do you go back to the main thing again? So, I want to get rid of the Department of Transport thing, so how do I now get out of that?

563 00:47:00.830 --> 00:47:03.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the magnifying glass.

564 00:47:04.020 --> 00:47:04.370 David Morgan-Jones: I was…

565 00:47:04.370 --> 00:47:05.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I just got…

566 00:47:05.160 --> 00:47:06.639 David Morgan-Jones: And the X, got you.

567 00:47:06.980 --> 00:47:08.100 David Morgan-Jones: Clear the thing.

568 00:47:09.950 --> 00:47:12.959 David Morgan-Jones: So it's CAD and, accident.

569 00:47:13.810 --> 00:47:18.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. I mean, you can find them by scrolling down, it's just much faster to use the search.

570 00:47:18.570 --> 00:47:20.460 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, no, no, no, absolutely.

571 00:47:20.460 --> 00:47:22.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because there's hundreds of layers for you to play with.

572 00:47:24.030 --> 00:47:27.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it looks like you want to turn off your cadestral layers, that's for sure.

573 00:47:37.240 --> 00:47:39.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the anywhere but the tick sign.

574 00:47:40.170 --> 00:47:45.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, well… Anywhere but there, there you go.

575 00:47:45.210 --> 00:47:46.390 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, yeah, got you.

576 00:47:48.350 --> 00:47:52.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you can turn off the annotation as well, if you wish.

577 00:47:53.520 --> 00:48:00.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go into Tools Annotate, And… .

578 00:48:00.820 --> 00:48:01.600 Chris Edwards: X.

579 00:48:01.600 --> 00:48:04.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you… ugh, exactly.

580 00:48:06.820 --> 00:48:07.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And they're gone.

581 00:48:08.300 --> 00:48:15.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then your black dot in the middle, which is where you've done a search at some point. The way to get rid of that is to go down to the…

582 00:48:16.630 --> 00:48:19.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the black dot, I think.

583 00:48:19.270 --> 00:48:20.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just click on it once.

584 00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:26.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, okay, you just got your geolocation on, that's where you are, alright.

585 00:48:26.050 --> 00:48:27.000 David Morgan-Jones: That's me.

586 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:28.789 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that is you, yeah. Okay.

587 00:48:29.700 --> 00:48:35.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have you checked with GDPR that you're publicizing your details?

588 00:48:35.270 --> 00:48:39.350 David Morgan-Jones: Right.

589 00:48:39.350 --> 00:48:41.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: My lawyer will be after you as well.

590 00:48:42.670 --> 00:48:44.629 Graham Stoddart-Stones: On your behalf, I shall write to you.

591 00:48:46.890 --> 00:48:50.989 David Morgan-Jones: Super. Thank you very much indeed, guys. That's really useful.

592 00:48:51.170 --> 00:48:58.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, Andrew, when we started the meeting, I said I had 3 questions, and one of them is going to be asked by you, although you're not aware of it yet.

593 00:48:59.960 --> 00:49:02.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So good day to you.

594 00:49:03.120 --> 00:49:04.240 Andrew Clegg: Hello?

595 00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:13.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, the question was the one raised by John Roberts. It says, you and I were both asking similar sort of questions of, CERC.

596 00:49:13.670 --> 00:49:16.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, we should be liaising.

597 00:49:17.080 --> 00:49:21.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if no one else has any questions, we should liaise like crazy right now.

598 00:49:21.640 --> 00:49:24.709 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. I've, I've…

599 00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:35.220 Andrew Clegg: I think every county is producing, at the moment, this, what do you call it, nature recovery strategy.

600 00:49:35.220 --> 00:49:36.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

601 00:49:36.310 --> 00:49:39.409 Andrew Clegg: And Somerset has just produced theirs.

602 00:49:40.130 --> 00:49:48.209 Andrew Clegg: And it involves… A mapping layer, which they have produced, but it's a one-way layer.

603 00:49:48.320 --> 00:50:03.049 Andrew Clegg: Yes. Villages can't… can't, can't, take part in this at all. They can't enter anything, which is a bit silly, because the nature recovery strategy is going to rely very heavily on what

604 00:50:03.580 --> 00:50:11.729 Andrew Clegg: parishioners do in their parish… parishes, and, you know, they'll have to do the work, essentially. They're volunteers.

605 00:50:11.730 --> 00:50:12.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the problem…

606 00:50:13.180 --> 00:50:27.299 Graham Stoddart-Stones: was, I moved on to biodiversity, and because biodiversity and net gain is now a requirement of all parish councils, I thought if there's any information gathered by SCRC, then it should be available to everyone.

607 00:50:27.300 --> 00:50:31.720 Andrew Clegg: That is… that's going to be the, I think.

608 00:50:31.720 --> 00:50:38.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adam Reimer was saying, you can't bombard them with too many questions, you and I should get together and make it one query.

609 00:50:38.570 --> 00:50:39.080 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

610 00:50:39.080 --> 00:50:41.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've already been in touch with Stephen Drury, is it? Drury?

611 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:52.400 Andrew Clegg: I've been in touch with somebody, I can't remember who it was, yes, at this, but I haven't taken it any further yet. All I know is that, that this…

612 00:50:52.400 --> 00:51:02.529 Andrew Clegg: Could be potentially very useful for, for working out biodiversity net gain strategies in applications, if we.

613 00:51:02.530 --> 00:51:11.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, my question to you is, would you please associate my question with yours, and just have one person looking at everything on their behalf, or our behalf.

614 00:51:11.810 --> 00:51:15.629 Andrew Clegg: Who are we going… who are we questioning? Sorry, I'm… I'm reminded, because I'm…

615 00:51:15.630 --> 00:51:23.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've given the name of Stephen Drury, I think, who is the Somerset Council guy who deals with the Somerset Environment Registry people.

616 00:51:23.970 --> 00:51:24.610 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

617 00:51:24.860 --> 00:51:30.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and rather than bombard him with emails from lots of different people, he suggested

618 00:51:30.990 --> 00:51:34.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Much like John Andrews does for us with Adam Rybo.

619 00:51:34.650 --> 00:51:35.080 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

620 00:51:35.080 --> 00:51:37.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: do the same for Stephen Drury.

621 00:51:37.470 --> 00:51:51.879 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Yes, I could do that. In fact, I think I attended with a Teams meeting the other day of the… of one of the council meetings in which he presented this strategy.

622 00:51:52.050 --> 00:52:03.110 Andrew Clegg: So I think I will contact him, because there are quite a number of other things that I think that need to be clarified in the strategy, which otherwise is rather good.

623 00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:09.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you do realize that you're representing 10,000 parish councils who all need exactly the same sort of

624 00:52:10.770 --> 00:52:19.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: higher authority, so once you've started the wall rolling, you can just turn to Somerset and say, now would you contact everybody else and tell them to get on with it?

625 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:31.910 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, I have approached them about using Parish Online somehow as the mapping, part of the mapping strategy, and the response was, they'll think about it.

626 00:52:33.390 --> 00:52:41.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is that right? I always find it's very useful when talking to them to say, by the way, they, Geosphere, do all the work.

627 00:52:41.650 --> 00:52:42.080 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

628 00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:47.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All the people who own the data has to do is to identify it, and…

629 00:52:47.660 --> 00:52:49.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And let Geosphere come in and fix it.

630 00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:50.870 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

631 00:52:50.870 --> 00:52:57.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I don't know if you've ever watched them doing it, but it's incredibly fast. It takes literally just a few seconds once they've got access.

632 00:52:57.550 --> 00:52:58.190 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

633 00:52:58.340 --> 00:52:59.940 Andrew Clegg: Okay, there is a…

634 00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:00.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Forever.

635 00:53:00.640 --> 00:53:20.619 Andrew Clegg: The whole thing is out to consultation at the moment, and it might be an idea to just add it to our response for the consultation. Whether they will any… whether they will read any of the consultees, I don't know. But if I email them and say, I've put it all in there, they might.

636 00:53:20.620 --> 00:53:21.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

637 00:53:21.170 --> 00:53:22.230 Andrew Clegg: We shall see.

638 00:53:23.110 --> 00:53:25.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, David, you've got another question.

639 00:53:26.660 --> 00:53:36.160 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, just go… just go on the biodiversity on the strategy. In order to do… to… to launch a strategy, you need to know what you've got, surely.

640 00:53:36.160 --> 00:53:38.469 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, very good body to start with.

641 00:53:38.470 --> 00:53:42.280 David Morgan-Jones: So… How have you…

642 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:52.029 David Morgan-Jones: done, or how are they proposing that an audit is undertaken with, a bunch of people who, frankly, wouldn't know.

643 00:53:52.390 --> 00:53:53.050 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

644 00:53:53.370 --> 00:53:54.759 David Morgan-Jones: butterfly from a moth.

645 00:53:55.250 --> 00:54:01.019 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Well, you've got to have one person in your parish who can tell a butterfly from a moth.

646 00:54:01.140 --> 00:54:04.330 Andrew Clegg: And then you've got to have a lot of pairs of wellies.

647 00:54:05.900 --> 00:54:08.410 Andrew Clegg: And you just go and wander around.

648 00:54:08.410 --> 00:54:14.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And somebody else is going to know about beetles and grasses, and the difference between a weed and a flower, and the rest of it.

649 00:54:14.100 --> 00:54:23.780 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, these are questions which I've asked. There are standard ways of classifying habitats.

650 00:54:24.220 --> 00:54:35.049 Andrew Clegg: And it's all a rather complicated, looking, but when you look in deeply at it, it's basically very fairly straightforward.

651 00:54:35.050 --> 00:54:44.399 Andrew Clegg: And… but I think what needs to happen is that these standard ways of classifying habitats need to… they need a sort of,

652 00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:45.889 Andrew Clegg: Guide for Idiots.

653 00:54:46.060 --> 00:54:52.709 Andrew Clegg: For them, so that they can… the parishioners can do a simple classification of habitats to find out what they've got.

654 00:54:54.760 --> 00:55:01.279 David Morgan-Jones: The only reason I'm fascinated, because we're doing a bit of work with, Surrey Wildlife Trust.

655 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:06.549 David Morgan-Jones: And they have actually done all our… all the mapping for us.

656 00:55:06.630 --> 00:55:07.600 Andrew Clegg: Excellent.

657 00:55:07.600 --> 00:55:10.179 David Morgan-Jones: They've got access to all the…

658 00:55:10.490 --> 00:55:24.919 David Morgan-Jones: you know, the Heathlands, the areas of the ancient woodland maps, the, the various other, sort of, sub-habitat areas. And so, within our parish, they've already done that work for us in terms of big hands, small map.

659 00:55:25.580 --> 00:55:45.229 David Morgan-Jones: But for me, it was more a question of, okay, so we know where the large habitats are, we can make a good guess at what is actually living in those habitats, but what we really need is some sort of record of, the different plant… the fauna and fauna.

660 00:55:45.620 --> 00:55:51.590 David Morgan-Jones: And so we had a debate about that, and they came up with a,

661 00:55:51.820 --> 00:55:55.480 David Morgan-Jones: A website which is used by a lot of the,

662 00:55:56.350 --> 00:56:00.910 David Morgan-Jones: wildlife trusts across the country called iRecord.

663 00:56:01.730 --> 00:56:02.530 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

664 00:56:02.870 --> 00:56:16.590 David Morgan-Jones: And there is an issue in terms of… well, I suppose it doesn't really need to be. It's about the relationship between parish online and the data that you can extract from iRecord.

665 00:56:17.210 --> 00:56:22.309 David Morgan-Jones: And actually, there's another mapping software for,

666 00:56:22.610 --> 00:56:25.869 David Morgan-Jones: And the name of which have escapes me, which is a global one.

667 00:56:26.130 --> 00:56:32.270 David Morgan-Jones: Where you can basically… it's an app on your phone, and as you see something…

668 00:56:32.270 --> 00:56:33.659 Andrew Clegg: My naturalist, I think.

669 00:56:33.660 --> 00:56:34.549 David Morgan-Jones: I'm a naturalist, yeah.

670 00:56:34.550 --> 00:56:35.520 Rebecca Hunt: so on, yeah.

671 00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:40.800 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah. So, have you guys got any experience of trying to do that on a parish level?

672 00:56:41.120 --> 00:57:01.090 Andrew Clegg: Not… little… little bits of experience. We've got one guy who's a genius with iNaturalist, and can put them there, and… but the rest of us, what we tend to do is, when there's something interesting, we record it, with the sumpt environmental, records.

673 00:57:01.460 --> 00:57:09.220 Andrew Clegg: And that's quite easy to do it online. But that's just recording species. It's essentially recording sightings.

674 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:29.179 Andrew Clegg: what I think matters for us as… certainly with regards to planning, is that we need to record the habitats. And I, some years ago, I'd made a start in our parish, which is fairly easy, because we've not got a great diversity of habitats.

675 00:57:29.180 --> 00:57:31.060 Andrew Clegg: Just drawing them in.

676 00:57:31.260 --> 00:57:48.650 Andrew Clegg: you know, in parish online, so I have got a map with… or I've got several layers. I've got one for, rivers, I've got one for what they call boundaries, which is essentially hedges, or double hedges, or a hedge and a ditch, and things like that.

677 00:57:48.900 --> 00:58:04.360 Andrew Clegg: And then various different kinds of agricultural use, from, unimproved grassland to, to, plowed, you know, and so on. So that map is there.

678 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:22.360 Andrew Clegg: And on that, we can see fairly clearly the important, corridors. They emerge fairly quickly. You can see where the wildlife corridors are, and those are the things that matter when you're talking about biodiversity net gain, is whether you're going to damage a corridor or not.

679 00:58:23.300 --> 00:58:34.159 David Morgan-Jones: Right, we're about to do some major work, actually. We've started off by, looking at our ancient woodlands, because we're quite a unique parish. We've got,

680 00:58:35.010 --> 00:58:39.109 David Morgan-Jones: About 40… just over 40% of our parish is wooded.

681 00:58:40.100 --> 00:58:40.700 Andrew Clegg: Really?

682 00:58:40.700 --> 00:58:57.240 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah. Well, it's helped by the fact a huge chunk of our parish is actually MOD training lands, and so that's heavily wooded with, spruce and various other, sort of, conifers, but it's also.

683 00:58:57.240 --> 00:58:58.210 Andrew Clegg: good ordnance.

684 00:58:58.210 --> 00:59:05.879 David Morgan-Jones: unexploded ordnance and lead. It's also got, it's part of the, the, the Heathlands.

685 00:59:06.050 --> 00:59:07.990 David Morgan-Jones: So it has a…

686 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:17.430 David Morgan-Jones: it's a SSSI area, so, it means that nothing's going to be touched. We've also got sang lands, basically lands put aside, which is primarily

687 00:59:17.640 --> 00:59:20.400 David Morgan-Jones: Ancient woodlands, scrub and marsh.

688 00:59:20.870 --> 00:59:23.469 David Morgan-Jones: And then we've got… we've got about…

689 00:59:23.590 --> 00:59:26.879 David Morgan-Jones: 9% of our population is ancient woodland.

690 00:59:28.850 --> 00:59:35.539 David Morgan-Jones: So we, we've done a bit of… quite a bit of work on the ancient woodland bit, and now we're going to be looking at,

691 00:59:36.810 --> 00:59:40.339 David Morgan-Jones: Annotating our corridors and generating corridors.

692 00:59:40.610 --> 00:59:43.110 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah, that's important, yeah.

693 00:59:43.630 --> 00:59:56.680 David Morgan-Jones: So, actually, your point about making sure we record the corridors is actually the critical bit, because when we go into the planning bit, it's about whether a… whether they want to cut across a number of our critical corridors.

694 00:59:56.680 --> 00:59:57.480 Andrew Clegg: Hmm.

695 00:59:57.740 --> 00:59:58.490 David Morgan-Jones: Got you.

696 00:59:58.830 --> 01:00:10.199 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, the other thing that I found important after I'd wasted a lot of time is if you're recording a boundary, a corridor, you don't do it with a line, you do it with a long, thin polygon.

697 01:00:10.200 --> 01:00:11.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

698 01:00:12.460 --> 01:00:13.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you say…

699 01:00:13.240 --> 01:00:25.969 Andrew Clegg: It will vary… it will vary in thickness, you see. You know, there'll be a bit which is quite wide, and bits which are quite narrow, and you need to show that, I think. But that… it takes an awful long time.

700 01:00:26.610 --> 01:00:33.300 Andrew Clegg: You've got a bad internet connection, you've got 3 quarters of your polygon done, and then it crashes.

701 01:00:34.520 --> 01:00:41.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you say where you had recorded the wildlife corridors, Andrew? Was it with the Wildlife Trust, or did you do it yourself in your own?

702 01:00:41.860 --> 01:01:00.920 Andrew Clegg: No, we did it ourselves. We've got a little group that walks the parish regularly, and they're fairly knowledgeable, and the other thing you can do, you can… if you switch on the photography, you can get a pretty good idea of where the useful corridors are.

703 01:01:01.980 --> 01:01:02.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

704 01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:05.859 Andrew Clegg: We'll see the edge widths and trees and so on.

705 01:01:07.370 --> 01:01:09.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: He's like, I got that with,

706 01:01:10.350 --> 01:01:16.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: funnily enough, the Greater… the Greater Crested Newt, if you look at their corridors.

707 01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:17.050 Andrew Clegg: time.

708 01:01:17.050 --> 01:01:18.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: As long as other people.

709 01:01:18.650 --> 01:01:20.199 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which was useful.

710 01:01:20.200 --> 01:01:37.450 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, I'm sure there are lots of maps that various people have done, for particular species, but I haven't been… I haven't taken the trouble to find them. Oh, except that I can… I can show you where the shrill Cardo bee is likely to be found.

711 01:01:37.450 --> 01:01:41.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just check with Chris, who's got a question.

712 01:01:41.870 --> 01:01:50.279 Chris Edwards: No, I didn't want to stop the flow of information regarding what Bruce has been talking about. This is something quite different.

713 01:01:53.380 --> 01:01:55.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you've succeeded in swapping everything dead?

714 01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:02.120 Chris Edwards: Andrew, I apologize.

715 01:02:02.120 --> 01:02:02.730 Andrew Clegg: Right?

716 01:02:04.290 --> 01:02:19.749 Chris Edwards: Oh, right, okay, without further ado, we were talking… Graham, you mentioned something about the annotations. What I want to do is have a letter drop to residents.

717 01:02:19.850 --> 01:02:26.239 Chris Edwards: And, this is one area of the parish. Second area, there's another one here.

718 01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:32.460 Chris Edwards: Now, if… if I wanted to get the addresses, I would click…

719 01:02:32.650 --> 01:02:43.530 Chris Edwards: on table view. But how… how would… it's asking here, name or number of property? How would… how would I make out a list of the properties

720 01:02:43.870 --> 01:02:47.880 Chris Edwards: that I've put in these two areas.

721 01:02:48.010 --> 01:02:55.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, how do… if you click in the area itself, is that itself a record?

722 01:02:55.170 --> 01:02:58.299 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so if you go to a letter drops for residents.

723 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and go up to Data Extract.

724 01:03:01.980 --> 01:03:06.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which is the down arrow, middle, yep, going to there.

725 01:03:06.620 --> 01:03:09.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And extract from address space.

726 01:03:11.170 --> 01:03:13.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Plus points, yeah, dress release, plus points, that one.

727 01:03:14.470 --> 01:03:19.769 Chris Edwards: And just… just go ahead and run. Don't bother with anything there, just go ahead. Okay, let me just…

728 01:03:20.430 --> 01:03:23.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, what it'll give you is all the addresses within that area.

729 01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:25.149 Chris Edwards: Oh, great!

730 01:03:25.150 --> 01:03:25.780 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, wow.

731 01:03:25.780 --> 01:03:27.360 Chris Edwards: Now that I can export the list.

732 01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:27.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

733 01:03:28.610 --> 01:03:31.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Fantastic. There's some amazing stuff in Python, Ryan.

734 01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:34.810 Rebecca Hunt: I can't believe… I've spent the past 4 years just counting and, like.

735 01:03:34.810 --> 01:03:38.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm all out. Yeah, it's horrifying, isn't it?

736 01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:42.589 Rebecca Hunt: I'm quite good at figuring out things, but I didn't even know that was an option, I feel like an idiot.

737 01:03:42.590 --> 01:03:57.780 David Morgan-Jones: Can you just re… Chris, can you just redo that from, from… just… just do a quick re… rerun on how you… so you've done the polygons, we've got that, and did you just annotate the polygons? Did you just use the annotate tool to do the polygons?

738 01:03:57.780 --> 01:04:03.769 Chris Edwards: You created a new layer. I did a separate layer, let it drop to residents…

739 01:04:03.770 --> 01:04:04.410 David Morgan-Jones: Right.

740 01:04:04.410 --> 01:04:09.920 Chris Edwards: Okay, I got the polygon… I've given it a polygon, so I drew out the area.

741 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:10.870 David Morgan-Jones: Yep.

742 01:04:10.870 --> 01:04:13.940 Chris Edwards: Coloured it in, and then…

743 01:04:14.080 --> 01:04:17.860 Chris Edwards: I'll just follow what I did before, click on the actual area.

744 01:04:18.120 --> 01:04:18.910 David Morgan-Jones: Yup.

745 01:04:18.910 --> 01:04:19.999 Chris Edwards: Click on that.

746 01:04:20.460 --> 01:04:23.790 Chris Edwards: Click on the downward arrow, Data Extract.

747 01:04:23.790 --> 01:04:24.600 David Morgan-Jones: Right.

748 01:04:24.970 --> 01:04:29.700 Chris Edwards: And then this will… you have then to put in… this would be a blank box.

749 01:04:30.160 --> 01:04:30.660 David Morgan-Jones: Yup.

750 01:04:30.660 --> 01:04:35.170 Chris Edwards: Address-based plus points, and hey presto, click on run.

751 01:04:35.170 --> 01:04:35.720 David Morgan-Jones: Bulls.

752 01:04:35.720 --> 01:04:36.700 Chris Edwards: hand side.

753 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:42.530 Chris Edwards: And it'll give you all the properties within that polygon area.

754 01:04:42.860 --> 01:04:54.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, more of interest, particularly, perhaps, for Rebecca, is that you can click on the left-hand button at the bottom and export it to a spreadsheet, and then you can do whatever you like with it.

755 01:04:55.070 --> 01:05:03.089 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, basically, there's a way of getting all the data you got in Paris Online out for use however you want to use it.

756 01:05:03.090 --> 01:05:04.350 Chris Edwards: That is good.

757 01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:09.409 Chris Edwards: Can I get rid of a lot of this other stuff which I wouldn't want?

758 01:05:09.410 --> 01:05:09.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, cool.

759 01:05:09.890 --> 01:05:11.480 Chris Edwards: I mean, this is sufficient.

760 01:05:11.680 --> 01:05:18.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You narrow it down… oh, do you mean the metadata? Well, yes, that's… you export it, and then just delete it all from the spreadsheet.

761 01:05:18.050 --> 01:05:19.820 Chris Edwards: Oh, oh, fair enough, yeah, I could do that.

762 01:05:20.190 --> 01:05:28.669 David Morgan-Jones: Chris, can I just ask a question? You're going to do, a letter drop. How are you going to do the letter drop? Because I've got exactly the same thing that we need to do.

763 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:33.250 Chris Edwards: Oh, just literally volunteers, so Jim will do this portion.

764 01:05:33.250 --> 01:05:34.600 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, right, so you're… right.

765 01:05:34.600 --> 01:05:38.020 Chris Edwards: I could… I could do different colors for different areas.

766 01:05:38.520 --> 01:05:42.339 Chris Edwards: And we could do it that way, because this is a very small pack.

767 01:05:42.340 --> 01:05:49.029 David Morgan-Jones: So it's just… it's just a matter of a couple of blokes wandering around, of the houses, shoving leaflets, shoving through the door.

768 01:05:49.030 --> 01:05:52.859 Chris Edwards: I would drive a car to the middle of this area.

769 01:05:52.860 --> 01:06:00.109 David Morgan-Jones: and spend half an hour or less in just literally putting things through letterboxes. Yeah, no, we've got to… And somebody else would do this.

770 01:06:00.310 --> 01:06:14.500 David Morgan-Jones: Yeah, I want to, and maybe somewhere on the line can advise. I need… I want to, send a letter to every single member of the parish, or every household in the parish.

771 01:06:16.620 --> 01:06:30.969 David Morgan-Jones: Now, we've got two options. We either do print and we do what you've done, which is actually physically walk from house to house, dropping a letter through the letterbox, or we pay a bit extra money and we get somebody else to do it, as in, sending a letter.

772 01:06:31.210 --> 01:06:38.040 David Morgan-Jones: Rather like the District Council does. What… what do people generally tend to do?

773 01:06:39.090 --> 01:06:43.919 Chris Edwards: Well, we've done both in the past. We've actually gone to the expense of mailing out everything.

774 01:06:44.590 --> 01:06:46.010 Chris Edwards: At a cost.

775 01:06:46.170 --> 01:06:53.940 Chris Edwards: or we simply do it, you know, literally people walking and posting letters through the boxes. Simple as that.

776 01:06:53.990 --> 01:06:55.760 David Morgan-Jones: Right. You simply run off.

777 01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.680 Chris Edwards: 500 letters on a copying machine.

778 01:06:59.730 --> 01:07:04.009 Rebecca Hunt: it does depend how many… how many households you're talking about as well. Yeah.

779 01:07:04.010 --> 01:07:18.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, we are in a parish with 500 households, and we have two competing newsletters. One's online, and one is manual, and the manual one is indeed distributed by a couple of people each week.

780 01:07:18.620 --> 01:07:30.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, in the days when we were doing things for the entire community, we usually wrote in the postman, and he agreed that since he was going to visit every house anyway, he'd just drop off a letter for each person.

781 01:07:30.660 --> 01:07:41.469 David Morgan-Jones: Oh, that's a good idea! We could just do that, couldn't we? We just… if we do a mail merge, just, because we know our local poster, he's quite a good bloke.

782 01:07:42.450 --> 01:07:49.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, exactly, and ours is absolutely brilliant, and I'm just looking to see what Rude and Mark

783 01:07:49.970 --> 01:07:59.100 Peter Lewis: Just as a segue to that, then, just as the ex-Operations director of Royal Mail, I'll probably say to you that that wouldn't be a great idea, but it'd be a brilliant idea, of course.

784 01:08:02.130 --> 01:08:12.489 Peter Lewis: service called HDS, Home Delivery Service, which, for which people paid. I don't think they do it anymore, I'm not sure. You could inquire. It's a lot cheaper than First Class Purse, which you certainly wouldn't want to pay for.

785 01:08:12.630 --> 01:08:13.450 Peter Lewis: I know.

786 01:08:14.110 --> 01:08:20.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so… Does anybody else feel that they…

787 01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:26.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Day is going to be ruined if they don't ask one specific question that they've been storing up all hour.

788 01:08:27.689 --> 01:08:33.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lots of nodding heads, or rather shaking heads, sorry. Talking about two countries…

789 01:08:33.370 --> 01:08:42.679 Graham Stoddart-Stones: divided by the same language. Do you know that in America, shaking your head means nodding, and nodding your head doesn't exist?

790 01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:55.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very strange, very strange people. Anyway, everyone has shaken their heads, so I'm going to say thank you so much for making this a very interesting session. I hope we persuade you all to come back next time, and have a great weekend.

791 01:08:55.930 --> 01:08:56.929 David Morgan-Jones: Thanks for watching.

792 01:08:56.930 --> 01:08:59.270 Rebecca Hunt: I'll have to come again. Thank you very much.