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# 250418 18Apr25 session 25-16

Four attendees covering a wide range of topics, some involving Parish Online, some not! (see Video Timeline, below)

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video of session 25-16
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### Video Timeline (min:sec):

00:00 - 19:30 Banter, mostly about developments around Exminster (2000 houses), the resulting water pollution&#x20;

19:30 - 23:30 Using Parish Online with videos and photographs from drones&#x20;

23:30 - 28:00 Using Public Map for showing individual layers, and whether users of public map can update their records (future version of PO). Also for tracking a new village walk, and showing people where they are,with associated audio file and photos (using links). Appeal of QR codes&#x20;

38:00 - 40:00 Banter&#x20;

40:00 - 46:30 Stoke Mandeville Neighbourhood Plan via Parish Online - presentation. Refreshing Neighbourhood Plans, Infrastructure Plans. Affordable Housing in Exminster&#x20;

46:30 - 50:20 (end) Community Land Trusts

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### Presentation:

No presentation this week, but see below in Chat section for link to Angie Bamford's presentation on updating the Neighbourhood Plan at Stoke Mandeville using Parish Online, as this figured in the conversation this week.

### Chat:

00:47:02 Angie Bamford: Stoke Mandeville Neighbourhood Plan - Using Parish Online Layers\
00:47:25 Angie Bamford: now visible on the wiki here

Herewith the presentation to which Angie refers -  Stoke Mandeville Neighbourhood Plan - Using Parish Online Layers - repeated here for convenience of this week's users:

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Angie Bamford's presentation on Stoke Mandeville neighbourhood plan update and refresh
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### Post-session comments: (apologies from Graham for missing the call):

Re the conversation about the new walk around Exminster being mapped in Parish Online, and the use of QR codes in the resulting Public Map:

* QR codes on posters at each point along the walk where there are relevant photos and videos and audible commentary on that point are a great solution, pointing to the website where the data are stored.
* If the parish council are asking that Parish Online links to the same data, then a couple of columns could be added to a point layer that ties to the line layer that covers the footpath; add a feature to Parish Online for each point in the walk, and in each feature, add a link to the relevant audible file, video file and photographs on the website (ie the same data to which the QR code is pointing). Thus, people following the path on their phones via the Public Map can click on each point as it is reached, and see/hear the relevant data.&#x20;

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### Speech-to-text (for AI search):

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Nick Reynolds: How you there! How are you?

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Angie Bamford: Good. Thank you. You.

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Nick Reynolds: Yeah. Good. Nice to have a Friday off for once.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, same way, working in education.

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Nick Reynolds: Well, for my sins I work for an insurance company.

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Angie Bamford: Oh! Dang!

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Nick Reynolds: In the back office.

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Angie Bamford: Doing times, and.

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Nick Reynolds: Business, analyst, type, stuff.

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Angie Bamford: Oh, okay.

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Nick Reynolds: Developing the product.

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Angie Bamford: You enjoying it?

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Nick Reynolds: Yeah.

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Nick Reynolds: It keeps me going, challenges the brain cells.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah. Good, and gets the bills paid.

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Nick Reynolds: Absolutely. Yes.

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Angie Bamford: The only one. But

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Angie Bamford: yeah, I don't know who's coming today. I got a message from Graham saying that

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Angie Bamford: he was gonna hold one, so

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Angie Bamford: I don't know if said Chris was gonna be here.

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Nick Reynolds: Okay. Well, we'll see who turns up.

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Angie Bamford: The where? How do you use parish online.

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Nick Reynolds: I don't use it as much as I probably should, but

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Nick Reynolds: it's basically to to draw plans and maps if I, if I need them for the parish.

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Angie Bamford: You. You're a counselor or.

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Nick Reynolds: I am a counselor. Yes.

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Angie Bamford: Oh!

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Nick Reynolds: And yourself.

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Angie Bamford: No, I'm I used to do

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Angie Bamford: Used to work for the State Manville Parish Council, doing the neighborhood planning. So

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Angie Bamford: we got a lot of development in our area. So in Buffington.

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Nick Reynolds: Everybody has.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, so we've got developers. We've got Hs 2. We've got

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Angie Bamford: bypass, link roads and all sorts coming through the village. So.

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Nick Reynolds: Oh, my God!

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Angie Bamford: Paris online was was valuable for us, because,

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Angie Bamford: we could actually map everything that was going on and do layer on layer up on layer, and then

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Angie Bamford: to to put it to the community to put it out to the neighborhood and say, Yeah, this is what's happening here, and that's going to develop there. And that's going back the land over there. And

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Angie Bamford: so yeah, that was very good for us.

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Nick Reynolds: I mean you. You've just given me a thought there, because we're just revamping our parish plan

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Nick Reynolds: and trying to make it tighter and more forceful.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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Nick Reynolds: Previously. Yeah. So yeah, I'll have to think of ways of how to use parish plan to assist in that.

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Angie Bamford: You know I can show you my layers and stuff if you want me to give you some

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Angie Bamford: tips or anything like that.

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Angie Bamford: Hi, Shaina.

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Angie Bamford: how you doing.

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Sheila Churchward: I'm all right. Thank you. I'm just

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Sheila Churchward: a bit bewildered by, you know. Here in Exminster we've got notification of an Exeter forum to look at science and climate change.

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Sheila Churchward: And it's it costs 350 quid.

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Sheila Churchward: you know. And it says for community members. And I'm thinking, Oh, yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: what community member can I get to go along to that.

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Nick Reynolds: Indeed! Wow!

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Angie Bamford: Is it in person or online.

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Sheila Churchward: It's in person. It's over a whole week at Exeter University.

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Angie Bamford: What do you get for that.

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Sheila Churchward: What do you get when I was looking at it? You get a little bit of food.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, you get quite a lot of food, actually

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Sheila Churchward: And that's on the Monday and the Tuesday you get fed and you get introduced, and a lot of networking lots of networking. Wednesday afternoon you have your 1st

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Sheila Churchward: 3 periods of discussion.

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Sheila Churchward: Thursday you've got, and 5 periods of discussion from 10 until 5,

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Sheila Churchward: you know, you know, a working person starts a little bit earlier than that, and also on a Friday, starts at 10 o'clock and finishes at 12.

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Angie Bamford: Half days.

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Sheila Churchward: But you know, when you look at the whole 350 quid isn't bad for a whole week, and I must admit, if I was I've got, I've actually got to have an operation on my foot.

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Sheila Churchward: I'd quite consider going.

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Sheila Churchward: you know, as an individual. Yeah, I'd have to push my way through as a as a parish councillor. But, I'd be quite interested in knowing what they're going to talk about, and

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Sheila Churchward: there is an opportunity for the conferences on the Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.

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Sheila Churchward: to see them in November for free.

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Angie Bamford: Oh, well, that might thank you.

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Angie Bamford: Option. Then.

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Sheila Churchward: So I put it in my diary already. Watch it in November.

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Angie Bamford: Oh!

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Sheila Churchward: You know, there's there's lots of things going on around here for environmental. And you know, Exmouth across the river from us have just won a national award for their environmental efforts. So we're going to try and get over there and see them and ask them to come over to see us.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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Angie Bamford: Share an honest.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, I it's not the knowledge. I think we've got the knowledge over here. It's the enthusiasm.

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Angie Bamford: Oh, okay.

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Sheila Churchward: I'd love the enthusiasm to come this way.

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Sheila Churchward: Those would be wonderful. Our, our environment group's been running that for 6 years, and

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Sheila Churchward: we've gone back down to the original 4 people.

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Angie Bamford: And everybody else has dropped out.

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Angie Bamford: You need to do some Facebook grouping and drumming up some business to join them.

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Sheila Churchward: I don't know how to do that, and I'm not. I'm not a very social person.

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Angie Bamford: Get your local community group, or whatever, and stick some

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Angie Bamford: information, some invitations and stuff on there.

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Sheila Churchward: What we do. We put stuff on

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Sheila Churchward: but we've got no engagement. I think that's the thing.

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Sheila Churchward: We have no engagement with our group our people in our village, and we're hoping that

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Sheila Churchward: well, we just have hope that we're going. Our Parish council will come up, come up and have some sort of

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Sheila Churchward: support in getting in place a group of people who whose job it is to do that to engage with our locality. I think a lot of it is that we're so close to Exeter. We live in Exminster, which is a small village on the outskirts of Exeter.

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Sheila Churchward: In between us and Exeter is a piece of land that is is being developed by Devon

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Sheila Churchward: for 2,000 houses, and we know that

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Sheila Churchward: we know that Exeter wants them.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: And it is so difficult to get some sort of engagement with the people who live there because they everything they get is Exeter based. It's not Exminster, it's Exeter

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Sheila Churchward: and Exeters, extolling all the virtues of being a part of Exeter.

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Sheila Churchward: and all we've got is the marshes and the history and the land.

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Sheila Churchward: and it's not as appealing as us and as a city.

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Sheila Churchward: So I think we're going to lose them.

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Angie Bamford: What's your parish, Clark like? Can they.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, she's okay. She's nice, you know. She.

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Angie Bamford: She engaging.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, it's I would say that Jill, who was our parish clerk.

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Sheila Churchward: has looked after our village and the people just on the outskirts of our village really well for years.

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Angie Bamford: Oh!

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Sheila Churchward: This new community, which is more than yeah. We have. We used to have 1,100 houses

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Sheila Churchward: in the village, and we've now got 3.5,000.

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Angie Bamford: Oh!

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Sheila Churchward: Or we will have. When it's finished developing. We'll have 3.5,000, and that is a big change.

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Nick Reynolds: Future.

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Sheila Churchward: And I know it sounds silly, but it's over the hill.

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Sheila Churchward: There is a big hill between us and the development and the motorway.

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Angie Bamford: Right.

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Sheila Churchward: So.

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Angie Bamford: Don't exist.

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Sheila Churchward: They're divorced from us, and

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Sheila Churchward: we've become a bit insular here in Exminster, and it is difficult to bridge the gap.

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Sheila Churchward: It's because, you know.

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Angie Bamford: Community events, or anything to hold events and.

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Sheila Churchward: We've had. We've had 3, and I think of

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Sheila Churchward: we we had one, and we put on. We just over the hill from us is the Devon Hotel, and we set up a big event there a whole day of chatting to your counsellors about this, that, and the other. We put on food

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Sheila Churchward: and soft drinks.

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Sheila Churchward: We have 5 people arrive.

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Angie Bamford: Oh!

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Sheila Churchward: Of a possible 350 people. 5 came.

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Angie Bamford: He needs your.

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Angie Bamford: We spent. We spent a lot of money on that.

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Angie Bamford: I'm gonna say you need your marketing team to.

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Angie Bamford: you know, to publish up, publicize it, and put posters up. And we did. We did as opposed to.

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Sheila Churchward: We did.

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Sheila Churchward: but the the people who live on the other side of the hill we asked for addresses, you know, email addresses. So we could do direct, and they won't give it to us.

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Sheila Churchward: They will not give us their email, even though that we are their parish. We are their parish councillors. They will not give us their addresses

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Sheila Churchward: over the other side of the hill.

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Sheila Churchward: and also, I think, a lot of it is because their school failed. We've got a brand new school over there.

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Sheila Churchward: and the 3 4 weeks before it was due to open it started sinking.

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Angie Bamford: Literally sinking or just burning up. The building itself is because you got your marshes.

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Sheila Churchward: No, no, this was, we're on unstable land and Marsh.

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Sheila Churchward: The school was built on a hill on unstable land, and

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Sheila Churchward: when they were, it's it was all like compartmentalized.

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Sheila Churchward: and the bit in the middle wasn't secure.

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Sheila Churchward: So it started going down, and it started pulling everything else down.

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Sheila Churchward: It is it's been going. There's 2 years. The company went bust.

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Sheila Churchward: the holding company went bust, and the company in America America

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Sheila Churchward: who actually provided a lot of the cash

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Sheila Churchward: went, but has refused to do anything for it.

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Angie Bamford: How it got past building Regs to sink.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, one wonders, one wonders, and that because that is all. Down to Exeter.

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Angie Bamford: Unfortunately.

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john Roberts: Hello, John! By the way, sorry I.

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Sheila Churchward: But it's been interesting. Been an interesting 2 years, you know, trying to get all those children to different schools for a start.

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Sheila Churchward: We had a whole intake of a year.

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Sheila Churchward: Of 300 children who had booked in to come in that that year.

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Sheila Churchward: No, it was not only year 7.

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Sheila Churchward: There were 2 years of infant school coming in, so it's rough. It was about 200 between 250 and 300 children, and they had to find other places in 4 weeks.

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Angie Bamford: Blime.

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Sheila Churchward: It was chaos, absolute chaos here that 1st year.

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john Roberts: When you talk about being over the hill, Sheila is that between Xminster and Marsh Barton.

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Sheila Churchward: No, yes, it is. Yes, between.

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john Roberts: But then also with engagement.

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john Roberts: how how much do people actually engage with your Parish Council?

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Sheila Churchward: No.

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john Roberts: No, this is why I'm asking, because

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john Roberts: we we're a similar sized village and

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john Roberts: the most engagement we will get is people complaining on Facebook.

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john Roberts: Get them to a meeting no way.

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Sheila Churchward: No now.

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john Roberts: A plan. A contentious planning issue is about the only time you will see anybody.

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Sheila Churchward: Other than that.

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john Roberts: Nope.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, I go there.

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Sheila Churchward: I'm actually thinking. That's a good idea of a way forward. You know. How? How could we discuss the problems with the school, and also the fact that they haven't got their allotments, which are very dear to their hearts and their play parks, you know, because I look after planning in in the parish

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Sheila Churchward: I get the queries about. Why can't we have our allotment yet? Why can't we have our play parks? You know.

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Sheila Churchward: The trouble is, they've signed up to an agreement which says, once 50% of the houses are in place

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Sheila Churchward: so each estate could be fully built. But it's not 50% overall.

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john Roberts: Is, that.

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john Roberts: Is that 50% built or 50% occupied.

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john Roberts: Yeah, there's a big difference.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah. But even so, we've got like in one of the estates is out. We've got 6 estates

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Sheila Churchward: over the side of the hill from us, and the 1st one Elm Park. They have been there for 4, 4 years.

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Sheila Churchward: They've got the space ready for a play part for children and

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Sheila Churchward: allotments, and it's all sectioned off. It's all there.

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Sheila Churchward: and I keep on asking, why can't we have it.

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Angie Bamford: Why can't we have it? You know.

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Sheila Churchward: Pardon.

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Angie Bamford: Who owns the land.

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Angie Bamford: The allotments in the day, part of the whole.

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Sheila Churchward: Down, park.

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Angie Bamford: So with the developer.

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Sheila Churchward: Developers on the land.

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Angie Bamford: They can't parish, can't. The Parish Council can't buy the land.

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Sheila Churchward: Okay, well, but we're thinking about actually doing that, we're actually thinking. But that

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Sheila Churchward: it depends. Then you see, if we take on one lot of allotments we would take on the lot, which isn't a problem. But there are.

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Sheila Churchward: I think it's 8 or 10 play parks

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Sheila Churchward: And we could probably take them over.

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Angie Bamford: But.

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Sheila Churchward: They've already set in place management agents to look after that huge.

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Angie Bamford: And we can get businesses involved as well to like sponsor, a play part, sponsor, a swing or sponsor.

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Sheila Churchward: We haven't got a problem. With that we get enough precept to pay to look after it. To be honest, and we've got money put aside already for the people over in Matford.

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Sheila Churchward: which is the what we call the area we call it.

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Angie Bamford: We're hoping due to not starting it. Then.

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Sheila Churchward: We've got no excuse. They haven't got no excuse.

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Angie Bamford: Oh, yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: To be honest, and we've offered to help and to support

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Sheila Churchward: We've even offered to buy, or even to take over management of.

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Sheila Churchward: but we get no further forward.

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Sheila Churchward: It is because we're a parish.

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Sheila Churchward: We haven't got the clout of a Devon County Council or a District Council, and we, you know, we even our

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Sheila Churchward: comments on planning.

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Sheila Churchward: They're just there for comment. Really, you get the impression. Oh, well, it's only the parish.

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Sheila Churchward: But did you notice we got a win that last this week we got

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Sheila Churchward: 1. 1 of the just on the outskirts of our parish is a farm, and they were going to make it into a landfill.

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Sheila Churchward: and been lots of objections over the last 3 years, and we won the appeal this week.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, not us. The group of parishes. We won the appeal.

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Sheila Churchward: It affects us because the way they're going to do the landfill is the hinterland for a stream, a major stream that comes through our parish into the access jury, and then into the X River.

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Angie Bamford: We don't have it to be polluted. Do you.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, it is, or it is a certain amount already, because we've got also the A. 38, the M. 5, and all the runoff from those roads is increasing the amount of rubber rubbish that goes into the street. And we've we've had

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Sheila Churchward: special screening beds put in place along the stream to try and trap all the problems problem stuff. But there's so much oil.

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Sheila Churchward: some surprising amount of oil and and rubber.

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Angie Bamford: Rubber residue that comes into our stream.

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john Roberts: Off the M. 5.

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Sheila Churchward: The M. 5, and the a. 38.

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john Roberts: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: Anyway, we talk about parish online.

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Sheila Churchward: Thank you for the chat. It helps.

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Angie Bamford: Always good to talk.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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Angie Bamford: I don't know.

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Sheila Churchward: Anybody else coming today.

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Angie Bamford: I don't know. So I got this email from Graham saying, Did anybody want to join? I said, I don't mind either way. So

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Angie Bamford: I think.

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john Roberts: I said I'd go, I'd go with the flow. I was expecting Graham to be here, but obviously not.

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Angie Bamford: I was excited, so was I, and he said about Chris as well.

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john Roberts: There's 1 thing going on. You started this with your

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john Roberts: presentations on the on the railway line and everything else. Hs, 2, or whatever it is, they call it now.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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john Roberts: And you started.

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john Roberts: Me! Then mapping the village

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john Roberts: with this, because our village is so convoluted and and interlinked that

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john Roberts: we started, then mapping to see where one engage with another.

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john Roberts: So, and I've taken that one stage further which might or might not be interesting if I can share my screen.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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john Roberts: Now, I assume you're looking at parish online.

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Angie Bamford: Oh, yeah, yes, we are. Yeah.

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john Roberts: Right? Okay, fine.

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john Roberts: But on our parish layer this is our village. Hang on.

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john Roberts: And we we started mapping each areas of the village to see where they interlinked with each other.

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john Roberts: and if I take one in particular the tanyard.

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john Roberts: you'll see how it comes in, and then goes behind the rest.

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Angie Bamford: Oh!

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john Roberts: So I'm looking for one particular one there, and that this area especially.

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john Roberts: and we we have done the whole village now, which is is fine.

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john Roberts: But what happened is we then had a friend of ours. Who now can you see that.

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Angie Bamford: Yep.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes, he did it right.

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john Roberts: He did a drone flypass of the whole of the center of the village, and

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john Roberts: because he's a commercial, suppose you call him Pilot.

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Angie Bamford: Alright!

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john Roberts: It's very, very good

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john Roberts: Video, very, very high spec video.

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Sheila Churchward: Hmm.

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john Roberts: And he gave us a copy of that.

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john Roberts: and from that we took stills.

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john Roberts: So with this particular area there.

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john Roberts: Yes, I can see how it interlinks.

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john Roberts: But

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john Roberts: I then get the pic. The overall picture of the same area.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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john Roberts: So with each, I'll go back to where I was now with each section of the village. We're now taking stills from that video

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john Roberts: so that people oh, yes, we can see that. Well, this is what it looks like from above.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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john Roberts: And if you can do that.

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john Roberts: if you can do that, it's well worth bearing in mind, because, although we can see

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john Roberts: where each part of the village interlinks like you did with Hs. 2.

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Angie Bamford: No.

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john Roberts: It's very good for people to be able to see a picture of it.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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john Roberts: And it also tells us what's what people are doing in their back gardens, that they shouldn't be.

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Nick Reynolds: Like building.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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john Roberts: But yeah, that was it. That was, that's all I wanted to do.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, that's good.

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Angie Bamford: We did the similar sort of thing with our green spaces, you know, without took a picture of.

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Angie Bamford: and then sports field or whatever.

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Angie Bamford: So like you like you've done. And then

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Angie Bamford: attached user with the attachment, updated the the picture of it as a he has an attachment to that to that layer.

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john Roberts: Yeah, we've got those areas mapped out, and we've got a public map. But I haven't put the attachments onto the public map

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john Roberts: mainly because I'm not sure I can, and secondly, I thought that might be taking it a step too far.

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Sheila Churchward: That's me. I'm finished.

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Nick Reynolds: Useful. Thank you.

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Sheila Churchward: I wanted to know whether if we

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Sheila Churchward: when we put on allotments, you know, when we go online to the parish online, there's this allotments layer the national allotment. I use that I wanted to know.

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Sheila Churchward: how can I put that onto a website

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Sheila Churchward: so that it could be utilized by, you know, by the people who manage the website. Can I do that? Or do they have to have access to parish online to manage the website themselves?

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Angie Bamford: Just a picture email.

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Sheila Churchward: Manage the allotment themselves.

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john Roberts: Yeah,

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john Roberts: before we go any further. If you get a noise in the background I'll mute myself because I've just been invaded by grandchildren.

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john Roberts: You can put it onto a website as a public map.

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john Roberts: so people will be able to see it as a public map. But they won't be able to do anything with it.

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Sheila Churchward: So on the phone.

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Sheila Churchward: If you want.

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john Roberts: To change it. You will have to then give them access to Paris online.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah to, can I? Can I actually say that I give them access to that particular

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Sheila Churchward: layer and do particular things? I know I can give them access to a layer or access to do things, but can I restrict them right down to only amending the the.

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john Roberts: As far as I know. No, you yeah.

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john Roberts: Various levels of access so that they can, if you like. View, do nothing or whatever.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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john Roberts: But they will get that access to the whole of your parish online account.

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Sheila Churchward: Oh, right! I was wondering if I could give them that. I've looked. And it you. There's so many filtering systems, aren't there? And I was wondering whether I could.

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john Roberts: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: It's like in our church allotments. They they want to know if they can update their information themselves. And I'm saying, I don't think you can. Actually, I just give them access to it and send them a copy.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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john Roberts: As as far as I know, you can't restrict it down to individual layer.

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john Roberts: No. Oh, it might be worth emailing, Graham, and asking him that one.

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Sheila Churchward: Thank you.

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Sheila Churchward: What was the other one?

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Sheila Churchward: We're actually, we've actually got a village walk in the village, you know, throughout the village, looking at particular points.

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Sheila Churchward: and I want to install it on parish online.

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Sheila Churchward: Which I know I can do it as well. I've seen it before.

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Sheila Churchward: However, we've also got a project in the in the village for our environment group to set up a community digital platform, a website in effect.

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Sheila Churchward: And I wanted to connect that walk to the new website.

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Sheila Churchward: And I was wondering if anybody's done that, you know. Have you ever done something on your on parish online and connected it to an external website.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, that's like pictures, you know you can. Whatever layers you've got, you can save it as a print as a Pdf, picture, if you like, and then doggy, woggy.

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john Roberts: That's the interruption.

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Angie Bamford: That's the interruption. That's not a great trial.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, save it as a picture. And put the picture on the on the website.

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Sheila Churchward: But they wouldn't be able to look at the commentary and the pictures. Would they? Just the route around the.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, what? What information you want wanting to share about the route?

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Angie Bamford: Because you could put a little biography, or whatever about the.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah, there's a little bit of commentary on every stop and a picture.

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Angie Bamford: Oh, my!

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Sheila Churchward: Well, I was wondering if if we link that to an external website, will will the commentary and the photo be included

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Sheila Churchward: in the in the extra, you know, with the connection.

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Sheila Churchward: so I don't understand enough. I'm showing my ignorance. I'm afraid.

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Angie Bamford: Something that you you have on your ears to when you go for a walk that you've got the commentary. Is that like a.

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Sheila Churchward: No, no, it'll just be when people will look when I'm parish online. I've been working at how I can work out.

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Sheila Churchward: draw the route and the photos, and for each photo there'll be a little bit of commentary.

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Sheila Churchward: and I've worked out how I can do all that. But I want to know whether.

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Sheila Churchward: if we set up the community website, whether I can connect it through

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Sheila Churchward: and they will still see the photos and the comment, listen to the commentary.

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Angie Bamford: I don't know if you can link them. I would just. I don't know what is John's expert, but I'll just take some stills and.

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Sheila Churchward: I'll just draw it. I'll just show him the drawer, the walk around then.

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Sheila Churchward: and I'm sure the photos have come through. But it was. I wondered whether I could put the commentary in, because people are very keen to to talk

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Sheila Churchward: on this, and I'm thinking, how on earth can I do it?

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Angie Bamford: Give me a deal.

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john Roberts: Are the other pictures on the website.

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Sheila Churchward: They're not there yet. We haven't got a website yet.

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john Roberts: Right.

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john Roberts: If you if you set up your website again, I'm going to share my screen, if I can.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: Right you you should. Oh, no! Hang on.

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john Roberts: Right you should now be looking. This is our planning application where we we record planning applications.

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john Roberts: When we set this up.

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john Roberts: if you look foot down here.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah, that.

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john Roberts: That is a link.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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john Roberts: And that link will then take me hopefully if it's working

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john Roberts: to Sej. Moore's planning online website.

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john Roberts: So you've got.

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Sheila Churchward: Afternoon.

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john Roberts: Sorry.

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Sheila Churchward: I do that for our planning applications as well.

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john Roberts: Hang on. I stopped sharing there.

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john Roberts: So if you set up a website.

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john Roberts: you can link each of the pictures

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john Roberts: on on your the bit you want to publish to go to that website.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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john Roberts: Same as you go to your planning application.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes.

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Sheila Churchward: But do you think the common.

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john Roberts: I don't think I don't, that I don't know the answer, because if if

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john Roberts: you need to try it because

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john Roberts: you can have a link to the commentary, but I don't know if it'll work.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes, because somebody's got. We've actually the group is, we have a group in the village called the Green Spaces Group. And it's their walk.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah. And they've actually having it videoed. And when they get to each point they've got a little commentary, and they want to know whether I could, whether I could put the commentary on, but they've just asked me

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Sheila Churchward: to do the drawing, which is fine, and the pictures now they want commentary.

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john Roberts: They doing that with a QR code?

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Sheila Churchward: Don't ask me a lot. We've got similar in the village with the National Trust.

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john Roberts: And they on their notice board. They have a little QR. Code.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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john Roberts: And then when people scan the QR code with their phone, it takes them to

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john Roberts: a website that gives them the information on that QR. Code.

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john Roberts: Now, please do not ask me how to set that up.

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Angie Bamford: True, exactly.

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Angie Bamford: You didn't have to make a QR. Code.

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Sheila Churchward: You know, people people in the village. They're a few of them are really not it, Literate, but would love it to support them, you know, and you like to help.

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Angie Bamford: Wow!

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Sheila Churchward: I do like to have.

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john Roberts: Yeah, I would say, the QR code route is probably the best one you are.

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john Roberts: It will go

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john Roberts: on their phone. They click the QR. Code, and it will go direct to whatever the website is you've set up

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john Roberts: and won't involve parish online at all.

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Sheila Churchward: Even if it's on parish online.

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Sheila Churchward: So what I do is I'm parish online. I drew the map

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Sheila Churchward: and put the photos. But the QR code.

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Sheila Churchward: We can actually q, 1 of the map, can't you.

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john Roberts: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: Hmm, you can have a q. 1

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Sheila Churchward: would go would go to my map on on parish online.

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john Roberts: Yeah. But you say, as they get to each space, is there anything at that space where they arrive

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john Roberts: where you could put a QR code, a physical QR code.

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Sheila Churchward: A poster. Oh, well, yes.

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Angie Bamford: Like a jump post, or like a gate, or.

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john Roberts: So they scan the QR code with their smartphone or whatever, and it will then take

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john Roberts: to the website with the information.

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Sheila Churchward: Right.

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john Roberts: Nothing stopping, you.

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Sheila Churchward: But they've actually got to be there then.

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Sheila Churchward: because that the idea was that I provided this. And then, as people walk, doing, doing the going around the map. They pick click on a point where there's a photo, and then they'd get the commentary.

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Sheila Churchward: This is what they're asking for.

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Angie Bamford: Have to have parish online open all the time during their walk, wouldn't they?

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Sheila Churchward: Well, they wouldn't have it, would they? All my personal.

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Angie Bamford: And QR. Code, like John said, would be your best option.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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Angie Bamford: I mean, if you're gonna.

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john Roberts: You're gonna generate. If you're gonna create a website for this walk.

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john Roberts: then I would. Yes, you can do your map with parish online and then print it as a Pdf. Or whatever, and have it on that website.

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Angie Bamford: So I would do.

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john Roberts: The problem you've got was

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john Roberts: parish online will accept attachments as documents or photographs.

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Sheila Churchward: But it's got a limit on the size.

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john Roberts: And this is why I can't even a short stretch of video. I can't put that on parish online because the the file size is too big.

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Sheila Churchward: Right. Thank you very much.

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john Roberts: Your commentary may hit the same thing.

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Angie Bamford: Your audio would take up a lot of space.

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Sheila Churchward: It's a file

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Sheila Churchward: audio phone.

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Sheila Churchward: But you can bet your bottom dollar if we put in commentary with voice, they'll say, Well, can you put in the pictures. The area as well.

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Angie Bamford: Well that all can be done by via QR. Code. Just a QR code on.

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Sheila Churchward: A QR. Code seems to be the best way forward.

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Angie Bamford: Totally funny.

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john Roberts: Yeah, I mean a QR code that takes them to the website that you've set up. And then that's it. They can navigate it as they wish.

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Sheila Churchward: Right. Well, thank you very much.

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Angie Bamford: Don't think that Wi-fi on their walk.

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Sheila Churchward: With QR codes. How do you keep them safe? You know, because this will be our parish online is on

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Sheila Churchward: is on the is a secure system.

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Sheila Churchward: So a QR code would click into a secure system, wouldn't it?

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john Roberts: Your QR code's not taking you to parish online. It's taking you to a website you've set up.

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Sheila Churchward: Oh!

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Angie Bamford: It's like when you, when you have to go for your car parking, or whatever. And there's a QR. Code that goes straight to the car Parking company for them.

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Angie Bamford: or if you go to the other end.

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Angie Bamford: British Legion, or whatever you you scan in the QR. Code, up goes to British Legion. You can donate your money to the Poppy Appeal. Things like that.

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Sheila Churchward: Right.

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john Roberts: I mean when you go to the car parks. Now you got you have to be very careful, because they people have been scamming them. But

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john Roberts: you you can QR code and pay for your parking.

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john Roberts: I won't do it, because the East Asia, paying somebody else.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah, you don't know what's happening, do you?

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john Roberts: But it's just the same.

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john Roberts: Yeah, the the QR code. It directs your phone to look at a website. That's it.

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Sheila Churchward: On your website, safe or no, it's not interesting.

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Angie Bamford: Your QR. Code up. Just put.

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Angie Bamford: I don't know when you print it off. Put something like, your parish council email, address and number or something on the bottom of it, to make sure it's rather than just a random code.

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john Roberts: The thing is with what you're doing. There's no money involved.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, true.

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Sheila Churchward: No.

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john Roberts: So I don't. You know. It's

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john Roberts: fairly certain that people are going to leave it alone. Your.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah. No.

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john Roberts: Your biggest, your biggest hazard will be people damaging the boards, or whatever.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, yeah, people.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes, we had a lot of problem with the graffiti.

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Sheila Churchward: Oh, thank you very much. That's a great help as a start. Fortunately, I've got some young people from Exeter College going to help set up our new website.

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Angie Bamford: Yes.

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Sheila Churchward: And they are very aware that it is for our environment.

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Sheila Churchward: the website or an open environment.

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john Roberts: I would say they're probably more

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john Roberts: mind with things like QR. Codes than we are, so.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes.

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john Roberts: It'd be worth talking to them.

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Sheila Churchward: Oh, yes, I hope so. They're good.

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Angie Bamford: Plants and birds, and all sorts.

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Sheila Churchward: I know.

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Angie Bamford: That.

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john Roberts: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: We look.

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john Roberts: Did you have any sorry, Nick? Did you have any questions or.

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Nick Reynolds: Not specifically, no.

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john Roberts: Well, you're like me filling in a an hour on a Friday afternoon.

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Nick Reynolds: Absolutely. I mean, I do find these sessions very useful, and I normally can't attend because of work. But obviously today is a special day.

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john Roberts: Okay.

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Sheila Churchward: That's fine, good.

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john Roberts: All right.

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Sheila Churchward: Hmm!

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Sheila Churchward: Whereabouts do you live in? Then, Nick.

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Nick Reynolds: Parish called Fairfield, which is just outside of Letchworth Garden City.

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Sheila Churchward: That's case.

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Sheila Churchward: My cousin lives in Fairfield, in Stockton, on Tees.

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Nick Reynolds: All right.

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Sheila Churchward: No, it's it's very confusing. When names have this. There's similar names all over the country, isn't it?

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Nick Reynolds: Yes, indeed, I mean it normally comes up with Fairfield in somewhere in America, but.

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Sheila Churchward: Oh, yeah.

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Nick Reynolds: For our sins.

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john Roberts: Yeah, it is. I think, that the worst one is Gillingham and Gillingham.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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Angie Bamford: Okay, wait a minute.

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john Roberts: And then we I got confused once with Tunbridge and Tunbridge Wells.

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Sheila Churchward: Don't really.

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john Roberts: One.

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Sheila Churchward: Other 2.

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john Roberts: I didn't realize.

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john Roberts: Yeah, yeah, not very far apart, as it happened.

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Sheila Churchward: Oh!

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john Roberts: But it get it can get worse. We we spend time in France and

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john Roberts: it it's fatal over there, because they've got so many places that have got exactly the same name.

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john Roberts: And if you're not careful, you can find yourself driving miles and miles and miles, not being where you are.

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Nick Reynolds: Yeah.

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john Roberts: Sure, but I've got nothing else for this afternoon. I don't know if anybody else.

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Sheila Churchward: Nick, have you got any questions? Really.

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Nick Reynolds: I haven't no sorry.

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Sheila Churchward: Do you use it at all? How much do you use parish online.

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Nick Reynolds: Not as not as much as I should do, but.

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Sheila Churchward: Oh, no! Me!

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Nick Reynolds: I've got some useful tips from this session today. So hopefully going forward, I will be able to put it into practice.

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Sheila Churchward: Are you ever able to come to the meetings when or the chats when Greg's there.

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Nick Reynolds: I have done in the past a couple of times, but normally no, because I work on a Friday.

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Angie Bamford: graham said he was because I did a presentation on the candle with the same before everybody. Before she and John came I I gave a presentation, December 23, to to Graham, to everybody in the group.

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Angie Bamford: And he was asking for it again last week. So I sent it to him and he said, He's put it on the Wiki parish online. Wiki.

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Angie Bamford: That was good.

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Angie Bamford: If you look on, if you look on there.

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Angie Bamford: it's only a short presentation, but it is the basics of how I did the how I use parish online for the neighborhood plan.

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Angie Bamford: I mean, I said I'd do 4 slides for him, but

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Angie Bamford: so it might. I don't know what he's called it, but it was like it should be State Mandel neighborhood plan. He might stuck some Hs 2 stuff in there. He might. He might have called it all sorts.

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Nick Reynolds: I'll have a look for it. Thank you.

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Angie Bamford: Okay.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah, we're going through a neighborhood plan now, and a refreshing hours.

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Nick Reynolds: That's what we're doing.

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Sheila Churchward: Are you? And we put ours in in 2013 14. And now.

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Nick Reynolds: Not long after that.

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Sheila Churchward: Pardon.

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Nick Reynolds: Were not long after that 15 or 16.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah, we find it so much more different now, because life's gone on and

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Sheila Churchward: we we ended at the beginning. We had about 15 or 16 actions. Now we've got 7 projects coming out of this one, which is enormous, you know, and it's not small things like it was before.

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Sheila Churchward: So we do.

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Sheila Churchward: How are you getting on with your ndp.

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Nick Reynolds: Sorry was that to me.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes. Sorry.

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john Roberts: Yeah.

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Nick Reynolds: Yeah, sorry. We're only holding our second meeting this coming week of the the planning group.

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Nick Reynolds: We got certain the previous meeting. We had a very helpful lady from the local Unitary council,

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Nick Reynolds: basically pointing out the pitfalls and what we needed to do to get this parish plan with some force behind it.

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Nick Reynolds: And basically, we've got to do the plan as quickly as we can, and then

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Nick Reynolds: do public consultation, because that's the way to get force behind it is the carry out consultation.

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Sheila Churchward: We.

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john Roberts: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: So we had to do a type, a certain sort of plan. I'll just look through my notes and let you know.

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Sheila Churchward: so that you have, you know about it? And Dp, no.

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Sheila Churchward: we had to put in place a particular type of plan, for we'll go back.

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Sheila Churchward: We've actually joined up with a few other local parishes.

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00:44:07.060 --> 00:44:18.589\
Sheila Churchward: and we were oh, infrastructure plan! We were told we must have an infrastructure plan and make it part of the Ndp. And that was completely new to us.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah, it's.

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john Roberts: One of the things with neighbourhood plans at the moment

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john Roberts: is because ours is coming up for review.

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john Roberts: But when I, when we made the Neighborhood Plan. We were part of a District council, and

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john Roberts: obviously the Neighborhood Plan has to fit in with not only the planning framework, but also the Council's local plan.

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john Roberts: Since then we've gone from being that to being part of a unitary authority who are now

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john Roberts: devising their own local plan.

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john Roberts: And we've not, we not yet know what the government changes, what changes the Government are going to make.

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Sheila Churchward: To the National Planning policy framework so.

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john Roberts: What we do know is that when the new plan comes out from the unitary.

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john Roberts: we will have to amend our neighborhood plan to fit in with it.

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john Roberts: and they will have to amend their local plan to fit in with whatever the government have decided.

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john Roberts: So don't make hard and fast decisions at the moment.

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Sheila Churchward: No, but you've got to have something already, and when you go out to your community you've got to come up with some ideas of to help them to make them a decision.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah, sometimes.

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john Roberts: Yeah. And we sometimes the planners will listen to a neighborhood plan. Other times they seem to ignore it.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, it it all depends if you're looking in the same direction as them, doesn't it? You know we've it's got to be new housing.

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Sheila Churchward: and we've actually gone for looking at affordable housing.

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Sheila Churchward: And we've identified plots of land around and about to support. I think it. It is 13 affordable homes or 15 affordable homes, and up to 8, 80 or 90 market houses

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Sheila Churchward: in our in our village. Our village isn't very big.

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Sheila Churchward: you know, putting a putting 80 houses in our village is going to be really quite difficult, but we found space, and of those 80

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Sheila Churchward: 15, I think, are affordable, and it will only go to locals, and we're trying to get

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Sheila Churchward: the the other of the remaining 80 a bit more affordable. But it's down to the argument at the end, isn't it?

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john Roberts: It. It'll come down to the developer and viability.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes.

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john Roberts: No, this is where we came, a cropper, but.

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Sheila Churchward: But if we buy the land, if we actually, we're actually talking about buying land for the 15,

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Sheila Churchward: so we can demand that they are affordable, you know.

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Sheila Churchward: In that case you can. Yeah, yeah. And

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john Roberts: Hi, Wendy, manage that afterwards.

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Nick Reynolds: We haven't got that far.

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Sheila Churchward: It's not my pigeon on foot, you know. I'm just in one of the projects, but.

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john Roberts: We had a village near here where

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john Roberts: they set up a community land trust and

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john Roberts: built on there so many affordable homes.

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john Roberts: They set up a committee of trustees to to run it.

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john Roberts: and 6 months down the line the trustees fell out with the Parish Council.

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Angie Bamford: Oh!

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john Roberts: And that that was what 3 years ago, and that

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john Roberts: argument is still going on and on and on.

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john Roberts: because the Parish Council want to go one direction, and the trustees are saying, No, we're going another direction.

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john Roberts: It was originally the Parish Council, so.

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Sheila Churchward: So don't hand over to the trust.

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john Roberts: No, the problem is it?

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john Roberts: As with all of us parish councillors are, we're amateurs.

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john Roberts: and although we've got expertise in whatever we did before.

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john Roberts: We're not landlords. We're not architects, we're not surveyors.

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john Roberts: And so if you take on property or anything like that.

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john Roberts: you've really got to have somebody else that runs it for you, or takes it over because.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes.

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john Roberts: We've got one clerk, you know. We're a small village. We've got one clerk.

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john Roberts: The rest of us are part-time counsellors.

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john Roberts: We're going through the same at the moment, because our health center

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john Roberts: is owned by the wives of the previous doctors, and they're looking to sell it.

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john Roberts: And what we want to secure, we want to secure it for the village.

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john Roberts: So yeah, raising money and everything else. But we've got that question. Who runs it? If we take it over.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah.

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john Roberts: Because you've got building maintenance. You've got all sorts to think about.

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Sheila Churchward: I know.

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john Roberts: So it's worth bearing in mind. If you look in that route.

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Nick Reynolds: Okay.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes.

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Angie Bamford: And it always comes back to the same people doing this. Yeah, helping out.

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Sheila Churchward: But we won't be here when those houses are 100 years old. Will we?

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john Roberts: No.

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Sheila Churchward: No.

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john Roberts: No.

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john Roberts: But anyway.

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Sheila Churchward: And.

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john Roberts: I'm gonna.

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Angie Bamford: I'm gonna say goodbye and go and play with my puppy now. So.

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Sheila Churchward: Not yet Easter.

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Angie Bamford: Nikki, all right, and you bye, bye, sir, from the chat.

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Nick Reynolds: I did. I saw that.

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Angie Bamford: I hope it takes you there. How you said you put it on the wiki. I don't know. If it's there or not.

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Nick Reynolds: Okay.

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Angie Bamford: Okay.

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Nick Reynolds: Thanks a lot. Take care! Everybody.

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Angie Bamford: Bye, bye.

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Sheila Churchward: Bye.