250418 18Apr25 session 25-16
Four attendees covering a wide range of topics, some involving Parish Online, some not! (see Video Timeline, below)
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Four attendees covering a wide range of topics, some involving Parish Online, some not! (see Video Timeline, below)
Last updated
00:00 - 19:30 Banter, mostly about developments around Exminster (2000 houses), the resulting water pollution
19:30 - 23:30 Using Parish Online with videos and photographs from drones
23:30 - 28:00 Using Public Map for showing individual layers, and whether users of public map can update their records (future version of PO). Also for tracking a new village walk, and showing people where they are,with associated audio file and photos (using links). Appeal of QR codes
38:00 - 40:00 Banter
40:00 - 46:30 Stoke Mandeville Neighbourhood Plan via Parish Online - presentation. Refreshing Neighbourhood Plans, Infrastructure Plans. Affordable Housing in Exminster
46:30 - 50:20 (end) Community Land Trusts
No presentation this week, but see below in Chat section for link to Angie Bamford's presentation on updating the Neighbourhood Plan at Stoke Mandeville using Parish Online, as this figured in the conversation this week.
00:47:02 Angie Bamford: Stoke Mandeville Neighbourhood Plan - Using Parish Online Layers 00:47:25 Angie Bamford: now visible on the wiki here
Herewith the presentation to which Angie refers - Stoke Mandeville Neighbourhood Plan - Using Parish Online Layers - repeated here for convenience of this week's users:
Re the conversation about the new walk around Exminster being mapped in Parish Online, and the use of QR codes in the resulting Public Map:
QR codes on posters at each point along the walk where there are relevant photos and videos and audible commentary on that point are a great solution, pointing to the website where the data are stored.
If the parish council are asking that Parish Online links to the same data, then a couple of columns could be added to a point layer that ties to the line layer that covers the footpath; add a feature to Parish Online for each point in the walk, and in each feature, add a link to the relevant audible file, video file and photographs on the website (ie the same data to which the QR code is pointing). Thus, people following the path on their phones via the Public Map can click on each point as it is reached, and see/hear the relevant data.
WEBVTT
1 00:01:05.360 --> 00:01:07.149 Nick Reynolds: How you there! How are you?
2 00:01:07.320 --> 00:01:08.400 Angie Bamford: Good. Thank you. You.
3 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.160 Nick Reynolds: Yeah. Good. Nice to have a Friday off for once.
4 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.592 Angie Bamford: Yeah, same way, working in education.
5 00:01:18.687 --> 00:01:22.260 Nick Reynolds: Well, for my sins I work for an insurance company.
6 00:01:22.290 --> 00:01:23.330 Angie Bamford: Oh! Dang!
7 00:01:23.530 --> 00:01:24.689 Nick Reynolds: In the back office.
8 00:01:26.340 --> 00:01:29.799 Angie Bamford: Doing times, and.
9 00:01:29.980 --> 00:01:31.610 Nick Reynolds: Business, analyst, type, stuff.
10 00:01:31.610 --> 00:01:32.410 Angie Bamford: Oh, okay.
11 00:01:32.410 --> 00:01:33.570 Nick Reynolds: Developing the product.
12 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:37.160 Angie Bamford: You enjoying it?
13 00:01:37.370 --> 00:01:37.760 Nick Reynolds: Yeah.
14 00:01:38.270 --> 00:01:42.640 Nick Reynolds: It keeps me going, challenges the brain cells.
15 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:46.189 Angie Bamford: Yeah. Good, and gets the bills paid.
16 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:48.060 Nick Reynolds: Absolutely. Yes.
17 00:01:48.390 --> 00:01:49.730 Angie Bamford: The only one. But
18 00:01:52.150 --> 00:01:55.890 Angie Bamford: yeah, I don't know who's coming today. I got a message from Graham saying that
19 00:01:56.930 --> 00:01:58.780 Angie Bamford: he was gonna hold one, so
20 00:01:59.140 --> 00:02:02.619 Angie Bamford: I don't know if said Chris was gonna be here.
21 00:02:04.530 --> 00:02:07.050 Nick Reynolds: Okay. Well, we'll see who turns up.
22 00:02:11.580 --> 00:02:13.719 Angie Bamford: The where? How do you use parish online.
23 00:02:16.820 --> 00:02:19.870 Nick Reynolds: I don't use it as much as I probably should, but
24 00:02:20.180 --> 00:02:25.780 Nick Reynolds: it's basically to to draw plans and maps if I, if I need them for the parish.
25 00:02:26.290 --> 00:02:27.840 Angie Bamford: You. You're a counselor or.
26 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:29.229 Nick Reynolds: I am a counselor. Yes.
27 00:02:29.320 --> 00:02:30.200 Angie Bamford: Oh!
28 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:31.450 Nick Reynolds: And yourself.
29 00:02:32.140 --> 00:02:34.162 Angie Bamford: No, I'm I used to do
30 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:39.379 Angie Bamford: Used to work for the State Manville Parish Council, doing the neighborhood planning. So
31 00:02:40.193 --> 00:02:44.320 Angie Bamford: we got a lot of development in our area. So in Buffington.
32 00:02:44.810 --> 00:02:46.110 Nick Reynolds: Everybody has.
33 00:02:46.110 --> 00:02:52.390 Angie Bamford: Yeah, so we've got developers. We've got Hs 2. We've got
34 00:02:53.237 --> 00:02:58.249 Angie Bamford: bypass, link roads and all sorts coming through the village. So.
35 00:02:58.280 --> 00:02:59.190 Nick Reynolds: Oh, my God!
36 00:02:59.190 --> 00:03:01.821 Angie Bamford: Paris online was was valuable for us, because,
37 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:07.950 Angie Bamford: we could actually map everything that was going on and do layer on layer up on layer, and then
38 00:03:08.500 --> 00:03:18.349 Angie Bamford: to to put it to the community to put it out to the neighborhood and say, Yeah, this is what's happening here, and that's going to develop there. And that's going back the land over there. And
39 00:03:18.900 --> 00:03:22.299 Angie Bamford: so yeah, that was very good for us.
40 00:03:23.790 --> 00:03:29.889 Nick Reynolds: I mean you. You've just given me a thought there, because we're just revamping our parish plan
41 00:03:31.970 --> 00:03:37.620 Nick Reynolds: and trying to make it tighter and more forceful.
42 00:03:37.900 --> 00:03:38.380 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
43 00:03:38.380 --> 00:03:45.850 Nick Reynolds: Previously. Yeah. So yeah, I'll have to think of ways of how to use parish plan to assist in that.
44 00:03:46.620 --> 00:03:50.620 Angie Bamford: You know I can show you my layers and stuff if you want me to give you some
45 00:03:50.880 --> 00:03:52.860 Angie Bamford: tips or anything like that.
46 00:03:53.430 --> 00:03:54.610 Angie Bamford: Hi, Shaina.
47 00:03:57.750 --> 00:03:58.809 Angie Bamford: how you doing.
48 00:03:59.430 --> 00:04:02.179 Sheila Churchward: I'm all right. Thank you. I'm just
49 00:04:02.690 --> 00:04:16.199 Sheila Churchward: a bit bewildered by, you know. Here in Exminster we've got notification of an Exeter forum to look at science and climate change.
50 00:04:16.540 --> 00:04:20.149 Sheila Churchward: And it's it costs 350 quid.
51 00:04:22.100 --> 00:04:27.529 Sheila Churchward: you know. And it says for community members. And I'm thinking, Oh, yeah.
52 00:04:27.730 --> 00:04:31.150 Sheila Churchward: what community member can I get to go along to that.
53 00:04:31.510 --> 00:04:32.780 Nick Reynolds: Indeed! Wow!
54 00:04:32.780 --> 00:04:34.399 Angie Bamford: Is it in person or online.
55 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:39.220 Sheila Churchward: It's in person. It's over a whole week at Exeter University.
56 00:04:39.540 --> 00:04:40.680 Angie Bamford: What do you get for that.
57 00:04:41.530 --> 00:04:45.960 Sheila Churchward: What do you get when I was looking at it? You get a little bit of food.
58 00:04:46.300 --> 00:04:49.279 Sheila Churchward: Well, you get quite a lot of food, actually
59 00:04:50.160 --> 00:05:02.069 Sheila Churchward: And that's on the Monday and the Tuesday you get fed and you get introduced, and a lot of networking lots of networking. Wednesday afternoon you have your 1st
60 00:05:02.440 --> 00:05:08.010 Sheila Churchward: 3 periods of discussion.
61 00:05:08.890 --> 00:05:17.189 Sheila Churchward: Thursday you've got, and 5 periods of discussion from 10 until 5,
62 00:05:18.100 --> 00:05:29.059 Sheila Churchward: you know, you know, a working person starts a little bit earlier than that, and also on a Friday, starts at 10 o'clock and finishes at 12.
63 00:05:29.340 --> 00:05:30.493 Angie Bamford: Half days.
64 00:05:31.070 --> 00:05:41.859 Sheila Churchward: But you know, when you look at the whole 350 quid isn't bad for a whole week, and I must admit, if I was I've got, I've actually got to have an operation on my foot.
65 00:05:42.550 --> 00:05:44.490 Sheila Churchward: I'd quite consider going.
66 00:05:45.490 --> 00:05:57.600 Sheila Churchward: you know, as an individual. Yeah, I'd have to push my way through as a as a parish councillor. But, I'd be quite interested in knowing what they're going to talk about, and
67 00:05:58.190 --> 00:06:05.740 Sheila Churchward: there is an opportunity for the conferences on the Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.
68 00:06:06.466 --> 00:06:10.289 Sheila Churchward: to see them in November for free.
69 00:06:10.870 --> 00:06:12.190 Angie Bamford: Oh, well, that might thank you.
70 00:06:12.190 --> 00:06:13.050 Angie Bamford: Option. Then.
71 00:06:13.050 --> 00:06:18.736 Sheila Churchward: So I put it in my diary already. Watch it in November.
72 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:20.650 Angie Bamford: Oh!
73 00:06:20.650 --> 00:06:39.540 Sheila Churchward: You know, there's there's lots of things going on around here for environmental. And you know, Exmouth across the river from us have just won a national award for their environmental efforts. So we're going to try and get over there and see them and ask them to come over to see us.
74 00:06:39.540 --> 00:06:40.170 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
75 00:06:40.790 --> 00:06:42.630 Angie Bamford: Share an honest.
76 00:06:43.010 --> 00:06:50.959 Sheila Churchward: Well, I it's not the knowledge. I think we've got the knowledge over here. It's the enthusiasm.
77 00:06:50.960 --> 00:06:52.400 Angie Bamford: Oh, okay.
78 00:06:52.700 --> 00:06:55.779 Sheila Churchward: I'd love the enthusiasm to come this way.
79 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:04.529 Sheila Churchward: Those would be wonderful. Our, our environment group's been running that for 6 years, and
80 00:07:04.710 --> 00:07:09.709 Sheila Churchward: we've gone back down to the original 4 people.
81 00:07:10.880 --> 00:07:13.520 Angie Bamford: And everybody else has dropped out.
82 00:07:13.520 --> 00:07:18.580 Angie Bamford: You need to do some Facebook grouping and drumming up some business to join them.
83 00:07:18.820 --> 00:07:24.769 Sheila Churchward: I don't know how to do that, and I'm not. I'm not a very social person.
84 00:07:26.660 --> 00:07:30.260 Angie Bamford: Get your local community group, or whatever, and stick some
85 00:07:30.930 --> 00:07:34.329 Angie Bamford: information, some invitations and stuff on there.
86 00:07:34.330 --> 00:07:36.490 Sheila Churchward: What we do. We put stuff on
87 00:07:38.060 --> 00:07:41.139 Sheila Churchward: but we've got no engagement. I think that's the thing.
88 00:07:41.350 --> 00:07:50.410 Sheila Churchward: We have no engagement with our group our people in our village, and we're hoping that
89 00:07:51.050 --> 00:07:59.470 Sheila Churchward: well, we just have hope that we're going. Our Parish council will come up, come up and have some sort of
90 00:08:00.140 --> 00:08:18.860 Sheila Churchward: support in getting in place a group of people who whose job it is to do that to engage with our locality. I think a lot of it is that we're so close to Exeter. We live in Exminster, which is a small village on the outskirts of Exeter.
91 00:08:20.840 --> 00:08:28.090 Sheila Churchward: In between us and Exeter is a piece of land that is is being developed by Devon
92 00:08:28.590 --> 00:08:33.910 Sheila Churchward: for 2,000 houses, and we know that
93 00:08:34.370 --> 00:08:36.959 Sheila Churchward: we know that Exeter wants them.
94 00:08:38.150 --> 00:08:38.530 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
95 00:08:39.389 --> 00:08:51.099 Sheila Churchward: And it is so difficult to get some sort of engagement with the people who live there because they everything they get is Exeter based. It's not Exminster, it's Exeter
96 00:08:51.209 --> 00:08:57.039 Sheila Churchward: and Exeters, extolling all the virtues of being a part of Exeter.
97 00:08:57.249 --> 00:09:03.049 Sheila Churchward: and all we've got is the marshes and the history and the land.
98 00:09:04.149 --> 00:09:08.009 Sheila Churchward: and it's not as appealing as us and as a city.
99 00:09:08.189 --> 00:09:10.069 Sheila Churchward: So I think we're going to lose them.
100 00:09:12.050 --> 00:09:15.159 Angie Bamford: What's your parish, Clark like? Can they.
101 00:09:15.560 --> 00:09:17.839 Sheila Churchward: Well, she's okay. She's nice, you know. She.
102 00:09:18.437 --> 00:09:19.632 Angie Bamford: She engaging.
103 00:09:20.230 --> 00:09:27.609 Sheila Churchward: Well, it's I would say that Jill, who was our parish clerk.
104 00:09:28.010 --> 00:09:34.440 Sheila Churchward: has looked after our village and the people just on the outskirts of our village really well for years.
105 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:35.090 Angie Bamford: Oh!
106 00:09:35.450 --> 00:09:42.229 Sheila Churchward: This new community, which is more than yeah. We have. We used to have 1,100 houses
107 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:47.140 Sheila Churchward: in the village, and we've now got 3.5,000.
108 00:09:47.140 --> 00:09:48.030 Angie Bamford: Oh!
109 00:09:48.030 --> 00:09:54.689 Sheila Churchward: Or we will have. When it's finished developing. We'll have 3.5,000, and that is a big change.
110 00:09:55.315 --> 00:09:55.640 Nick Reynolds: Future.
111 00:09:55.640 --> 00:09:58.989 Sheila Churchward: And I know it sounds silly, but it's over the hill.
112 00:09:59.110 --> 00:10:04.320 Sheila Churchward: There is a big hill between us and the development and the motorway.
113 00:10:04.740 --> 00:10:05.590 Angie Bamford: Right.
114 00:10:06.140 --> 00:10:06.690 Sheila Churchward: So.
115 00:10:06.690 --> 00:10:07.290 Angie Bamford: Don't exist.
116 00:10:07.290 --> 00:10:09.950 Sheila Churchward: They're divorced from us, and
117 00:10:10.270 --> 00:10:16.319 Sheila Churchward: we've become a bit insular here in Exminster, and it is difficult to bridge the gap.
118 00:10:16.490 --> 00:10:19.180 Sheila Churchward: It's because, you know.
119 00:10:19.290 --> 00:10:23.159 Angie Bamford: Community events, or anything to hold events and.
120 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:27.760 Sheila Churchward: We've had. We've had 3, and I think of
121 00:10:28.400 --> 00:10:44.389 Sheila Churchward: we we had one, and we put on. We just over the hill from us is the Devon Hotel, and we set up a big event there a whole day of chatting to your counsellors about this, that, and the other. We put on food
122 00:10:44.850 --> 00:10:46.730 Sheila Churchward: and soft drinks.
123 00:10:47.060 --> 00:10:49.229 Sheila Churchward: We have 5 people arrive.
124 00:10:49.400 --> 00:10:50.470 Angie Bamford: Oh!
125 00:10:51.690 --> 00:10:57.139 Sheila Churchward: Of a possible 350 people. 5 came.
126 00:10:57.520 --> 00:10:58.230 Angie Bamford: He needs your.
127 00:10:58.230 --> 00:11:01.219 Angie Bamford: We spent. We spent a lot of money on that.
128 00:11:01.220 --> 00:11:03.479 Angie Bamford: I'm gonna say you need your marketing team to.
129 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:09.830 Angie Bamford: you know, to publish up, publicize it, and put posters up. And we did. We did as opposed to.
130 00:11:10.140 --> 00:11:11.840 Sheila Churchward: We did.
131 00:11:12.370 --> 00:11:23.120 Sheila Churchward: but the the people who live on the other side of the hill we asked for addresses, you know, email addresses. So we could do direct, and they won't give it to us.
132 00:11:24.580 --> 00:11:34.550 Sheila Churchward: They will not give us their email, even though that we are their parish. We are their parish councillors. They will not give us their addresses
133 00:11:34.730 --> 00:11:37.040 Sheila Churchward: over the other side of the hill.
134 00:11:37.550 --> 00:11:44.840 Sheila Churchward: and also, I think, a lot of it is because their school failed. We've got a brand new school over there.
135 00:11:45.540 --> 00:11:52.569 Sheila Churchward: and the 3 4 weeks before it was due to open it started sinking.
136 00:11:54.750 --> 00:12:01.339 Angie Bamford: Literally sinking or just burning up. The building itself is because you got your marshes.
137 00:12:02.270 --> 00:12:06.450 Sheila Churchward: No, no, this was, we're on unstable land and Marsh.
138 00:12:07.110 --> 00:12:13.670 Sheila Churchward: The school was built on a hill on unstable land, and
139 00:12:13.950 --> 00:12:19.620 Sheila Churchward: when they were, it's it was all like compartmentalized.
140 00:12:20.430 --> 00:12:23.970 Sheila Churchward: and the bit in the middle wasn't secure.
141 00:12:24.410 --> 00:12:28.690 Sheila Churchward: So it started going down, and it started pulling everything else down.
142 00:12:30.710 --> 00:12:36.190 Sheila Churchward: It is it's been going. There's 2 years. The company went bust.
143 00:12:36.330 --> 00:12:43.120 Sheila Churchward: the holding company went bust, and the company in America America
144 00:12:43.330 --> 00:12:47.510 Sheila Churchward: who actually provided a lot of the cash
145 00:12:48.370 --> 00:12:51.290 Sheila Churchward: went, but has refused to do anything for it.
146 00:12:52.890 --> 00:12:56.180 Angie Bamford: How it got past building Regs to sink.
147 00:12:56.180 --> 00:13:02.140 Sheila Churchward: Well, one wonders, one wonders, and that because that is all. Down to Exeter.
148 00:13:02.470 --> 00:13:04.170 Angie Bamford: Unfortunately.
149 00:13:04.170 --> 00:13:06.680 john Roberts: Hello, John! By the way, sorry I.
150 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:15.370 Sheila Churchward: But it's been interesting. Been an interesting 2 years, you know, trying to get all those children to different schools for a start.
151 00:13:15.510 --> 00:13:18.520 Sheila Churchward: We had a whole intake of a year.
152 00:13:19.380 --> 00:13:24.430 Sheila Churchward: Of 300 children who had booked in to come in that that year.
153 00:13:25.310 --> 00:13:30.679 Sheila Churchward: No, it was not only year 7.
154 00:13:30.830 --> 00:13:44.220 Sheila Churchward: There were 2 years of infant school coming in, so it's rough. It was about 200 between 250 and 300 children, and they had to find other places in 4 weeks.
155 00:13:44.860 --> 00:13:45.600 Angie Bamford: Blime.
156 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:50.149 Sheila Churchward: It was chaos, absolute chaos here that 1st year.
157 00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:56.129 john Roberts: When you talk about being over the hill, Sheila is that between Xminster and Marsh Barton.
158 00:13:56.490 --> 00:13:59.639 Sheila Churchward: No, yes, it is. Yes, between.
159 00:14:01.800 --> 00:14:04.191 john Roberts: But then also with engagement.
160 00:14:05.390 --> 00:14:09.470 john Roberts: how how much do people actually engage with your Parish Council?
161 00:14:09.820 --> 00:14:10.510 Sheila Churchward: No.
162 00:14:10.860 --> 00:14:13.350 john Roberts: No, this is why I'm asking, because
163 00:14:14.550 --> 00:14:18.430 john Roberts: we we're a similar sized village and
164 00:14:18.930 --> 00:14:23.069 john Roberts: the most engagement we will get is people complaining on Facebook.
165 00:14:25.520 --> 00:14:27.719 john Roberts: Get them to a meeting no way.
166 00:14:27.940 --> 00:14:29.280 Sheila Churchward: No now.
167 00:14:29.637 --> 00:14:34.999 john Roberts: A plan. A contentious planning issue is about the only time you will see anybody.
168 00:14:35.190 --> 00:14:36.479 Sheila Churchward: Other than that.
169 00:14:37.220 --> 00:14:37.940 john Roberts: Nope.
170 00:14:38.800 --> 00:14:39.630 Sheila Churchward: Well, I go there.
171 00:14:39.630 --> 00:14:59.019 Sheila Churchward: I'm actually thinking. That's a good idea of a way forward. You know. How? How could we discuss the problems with the school, and also the fact that they haven't got their allotments, which are very dear to their hearts and their play parks, you know, because I look after planning in in the parish
172 00:14:59.190 --> 00:15:06.810 Sheila Churchward: I get the queries about. Why can't we have our allotment yet? Why can't we have our play parks? You know.
173 00:15:07.640 --> 00:15:15.120 Sheila Churchward: The trouble is, they've signed up to an agreement which says, once 50% of the houses are in place
174 00:15:15.270 --> 00:15:21.900 Sheila Churchward: in each S, and that is overall, not in each estate.
175 00:15:22.140 --> 00:15:25.299 Sheila Churchward: because the estates are being built separately.
176 00:15:26.100 --> 00:15:31.529 Sheila Churchward: so each estate could be fully built. But it's not 50% overall.
177 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:32.300 john Roberts: Is, that.
178 00:15:32.300 --> 00:15:34.259 Sheila Churchward: Borders are saying.
179 00:15:34.950 --> 00:15:38.899 john Roberts: Is that 50% built or 50% occupied.
180 00:15:39.300 --> 00:15:40.940 Sheila Churchward: 50%. Occupied sorry.
181 00:15:40.940 --> 00:15:42.690 john Roberts: Yeah, there's a big difference.
182 00:15:42.850 --> 00:15:49.120 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. But even so, we've got like in one of the estates is out. We've got 6 estates
183 00:15:50.390 --> 00:15:59.309 Sheila Churchward: over the side of the hill from us, and the 1st one Elm Park. They have been there for 4, 4 years.
184 00:15:59.970 --> 00:16:05.810 Sheila Churchward: They've got the space ready for a play part for children and
185 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.929 Sheila Churchward: allotments, and it's all sectioned off. It's all there.
186 00:16:11.300 --> 00:16:14.040 Sheila Churchward: and I keep on asking, why can't we have it.
187 00:16:14.180 --> 00:16:16.019 Angie Bamford: Why can't we have it? You know.
188 00:16:17.310 --> 00:16:17.970 Sheila Churchward: Pardon.
189 00:16:17.970 --> 00:16:19.410 Angie Bamford: Who owns the land.
190 00:16:19.520 --> 00:16:23.140 Angie Bamford: The allotments in the day, part of the whole.
191 00:16:23.420 --> 00:16:24.719 Sheila Churchward: Down, park.
192 00:16:25.370 --> 00:16:26.199 Angie Bamford: So with the developer.
193 00:16:28.050 --> 00:16:29.890 Sheila Churchward: Developers on the land.
194 00:16:30.550 --> 00:16:34.210 Angie Bamford: They can't parish, can't. The Parish Council can't buy the land.
195 00:16:34.690 --> 00:16:42.590 Sheila Churchward: Okay, well, but we're thinking about actually doing that, we're actually thinking. But that
196 00:16:43.860 --> 00:16:51.580 Sheila Churchward: it depends. Then you see, if we take on one lot of allotments we would take on the lot, which isn't a problem. But there are.
197 00:16:52.020 --> 00:16:55.639 Sheila Churchward: I think it's 8 or 10 play parks
198 00:16:55.890 --> 00:17:00.780 Sheila Churchward: in over the whole area and various sizes.
199 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.650 Sheila Churchward: And we could probably take them over.
200 00:17:06.220 --> 00:17:06.670 Angie Bamford: But.
201 00:17:06.670 --> 00:17:13.540 Sheila Churchward: They've already set in place management agents to look after that huge.
202 00:17:13.540 --> 00:17:19.750 Angie Bamford: And we can get businesses involved as well to like sponsor, a play part, sponsor, a swing or sponsor.
203 00:17:19.750 --> 00:17:29.899 Sheila Churchward: We haven't got a problem. With that we get enough precept to pay to look after it. To be honest, and we've got money put aside already for the people over in Matford.
204 00:17:30.310 --> 00:17:34.540 Sheila Churchward: which is the what we call the area we call it.
205 00:17:34.690 --> 00:17:37.439 Angie Bamford: We're hoping due to not starting it. Then.
206 00:17:37.690 --> 00:17:39.899 Sheila Churchward: We've got no excuse. They haven't got no excuse.
207 00:17:39.900 --> 00:17:40.580 Angie Bamford: Oh, yeah.
208 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:45.210 Sheila Churchward: To be honest, and we've offered to help and to support
209 00:17:46.620 --> 00:17:52.170 Sheila Churchward: We've even offered to buy, or even to take over management of.
210 00:17:52.320 --> 00:17:54.840 Sheila Churchward: but we get no further forward.
211 00:17:55.310 --> 00:17:57.939 Sheila Churchward: It is because we're a parish.
212 00:17:58.260 --> 00:18:06.650 Sheila Churchward: We haven't got the clout of a Devon County Council or a District Council, and we, you know, we even our
213 00:18:07.800 --> 00:18:09.720 Sheila Churchward: comments on planning.
214 00:18:10.170 --> 00:18:15.410 Sheila Churchward: They're just there for comment. Really, you get the impression. Oh, well, it's only the parish.
215 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:22.976 Sheila Churchward: But did you notice we got a win that last this week we got
216 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:32.290 Sheila Churchward: 1. 1 of the just on the outskirts of our parish is a farm, and they were going to make it into a landfill.
217 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:38.979 Sheila Churchward: and been lots of objections over the last 3 years, and we won the appeal this week.
218 00:18:39.590 --> 00:18:44.190 Sheila Churchward: Well, not us. The group of parishes. We won the appeal.
219 00:18:44.940 --> 00:19:02.949 Sheila Churchward: It affects us because the way they're going to do the landfill is the hinterland for a stream, a major stream that comes through our parish into the access jury, and then into the X River.
220 00:19:04.130 --> 00:19:06.339 Angie Bamford: We don't have it to be polluted. Do you.
221 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:24.200 Sheila Churchward: Well, it is, or it is a certain amount already, because we've got also the A. 38, the M. 5, and all the runoff from those roads is increasing the amount of rubber rubbish that goes into the street. And we've we've had
222 00:19:24.730 --> 00:19:36.159 Sheila Churchward: special screening beds put in place along the stream to try and trap all the problems problem stuff. But there's so much oil.
223 00:19:36.910 --> 00:19:42.429 Sheila Churchward: some surprising amount of oil and and rubber.
224 00:19:42.870 --> 00:19:46.120 Angie Bamford: Rubber residue that comes into our stream.
225 00:19:46.120 --> 00:19:47.480 john Roberts: Off the M. 5.
226 00:19:47.850 --> 00:19:50.089 Sheila Churchward: The M. 5, and the a. 38.
227 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:51.060 john Roberts: Yeah.
228 00:19:52.710 --> 00:19:56.010 Sheila Churchward: Anyway, we talk about parish online.
229 00:19:56.656 --> 00:20:00.299 Sheila Churchward: Thank you for the chat. It helps.
230 00:20:00.750 --> 00:20:02.189 Angie Bamford: Always good to talk.
231 00:20:02.550 --> 00:20:03.190 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
232 00:20:06.100 --> 00:20:06.790 Angie Bamford: I don't know.
233 00:20:06.790 --> 00:20:08.189 Sheila Churchward: Anybody else coming today.
234 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:14.970 Angie Bamford: I don't know. So I got this email from Graham saying, Did anybody want to join? I said, I don't mind either way. So
235 00:20:15.350 --> 00:20:15.870 Angie Bamford: I think.
236 00:20:15.870 --> 00:20:21.090 john Roberts: I said I'd go, I'd go with the flow. I was expecting Graham to be here, but obviously not.
237 00:20:21.360 --> 00:20:25.960 Angie Bamford: I was excited, so was I, and he said about Chris as well.
238 00:20:28.530 --> 00:20:34.393 john Roberts: There's 1 thing going on. You started this with your
239 00:20:35.620 --> 00:20:41.290 john Roberts: presentations on the on the railway line and everything else. Hs, 2, or whatever it is, they call it now.
240 00:20:41.290 --> 00:20:41.720 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
241 00:20:42.840 --> 00:20:44.750 john Roberts: And you started.
242 00:20:47.151 --> 00:20:49.110 john Roberts: Me! Then mapping the village
243 00:20:49.830 --> 00:20:55.560 john Roberts: with this, because our village is so convoluted and and interlinked that
244 00:20:56.460 --> 00:21:01.290 john Roberts: we started, then mapping to see where one engage with another.
245 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:07.819 john Roberts: So, and I've taken that one stage further which might or might not be interesting if I can share my screen.
246 00:21:07.820 --> 00:21:08.400 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
247 00:21:13.940 --> 00:21:16.809 john Roberts: Now, I assume you're looking at parish online.
248 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:19.209 Angie Bamford: Oh, yeah, yes, we are. Yeah.
249 00:21:19.210 --> 00:21:20.620 john Roberts: Right? Okay, fine.
250 00:21:20.800 --> 00:21:23.590 john Roberts: But on our parish layer this is our village. Hang on.
251 00:21:25.570 --> 00:21:35.890 john Roberts: And we we started mapping each areas of the village to see where they interlinked with each other.
252 00:21:39.190 --> 00:21:42.129 john Roberts: and if I take one in particular the tanyard.
253 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:45.560 john Roberts: you'll see how it comes in, and then goes behind the rest.
254 00:21:45.560 --> 00:21:46.280 Angie Bamford: Oh!
255 00:21:49.190 --> 00:21:56.339 john Roberts: So I'm looking for one particular one there, and that this area especially.
256 00:21:56.690 --> 00:22:01.509 john Roberts: and we we have done the whole village now, which is is fine.
257 00:22:02.266 --> 00:22:11.260 john Roberts: But what happened is we then had a friend of ours. Who now can you see that.
258 00:22:11.520 --> 00:22:11.940 Angie Bamford: Yep.
259 00:22:12.110 --> 00:22:13.760 Sheila Churchward: Yes, he did it right.
260 00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:21.020 john Roberts: He did a drone flypass of the whole of the center of the village, and
261 00:22:21.150 --> 00:22:25.200 john Roberts: because he's a commercial, suppose you call him Pilot.
262 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:25.740 Angie Bamford: Alright!
263 00:22:26.343 --> 00:22:28.756 john Roberts: It's very, very good
264 00:22:29.540 --> 00:22:32.349 john Roberts: Video, very, very high spec video.
265 00:22:32.540 --> 00:22:33.280 Sheila Churchward: Hmm.
266 00:22:33.590 --> 00:22:35.380 john Roberts: And he gave us a copy of that.
267 00:22:35.600 --> 00:22:38.140 john Roberts: and from that we took stills.
268 00:22:38.700 --> 00:22:41.289 john Roberts: So with this particular area there.
269 00:22:41.430 --> 00:22:44.230 john Roberts: Yes, I can see how it interlinks.
270 00:22:44.660 --> 00:22:45.560 john Roberts: But
271 00:22:52.610 --> 00:22:56.809 john Roberts: I then get the pic. The overall picture of the same area.
272 00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:57.610 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
273 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:05.379 john Roberts: So with each, I'll go back to where I was now with each section of the village. We're now taking stills from that video
274 00:23:05.650 --> 00:23:09.870 john Roberts: so that people oh, yes, we can see that. Well, this is what it looks like from above.
275 00:23:09.870 --> 00:23:10.500 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
276 00:23:10.870 --> 00:23:12.649 john Roberts: And if you can do that.
277 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:21.250 john Roberts: if you can do that, it's well worth bearing in mind, because, although we can see
278 00:23:21.750 --> 00:23:25.350 john Roberts: where each part of the village interlinks like you did with Hs. 2.
279 00:23:25.500 --> 00:23:26.120 Angie Bamford: No.
280 00:23:26.363 --> 00:23:29.770 john Roberts: It's very good for people to be able to see a picture of it.
281 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:30.660 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
282 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:37.565 john Roberts: And it also tells us what's what people are doing in their back gardens, that they shouldn't be.
283 00:23:39.236 --> 00:23:40.409 Nick Reynolds: Like building.
284 00:23:41.560 --> 00:23:42.220 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
285 00:23:42.790 --> 00:23:46.760 john Roberts: But yeah, that was it. That was, that's all I wanted to do.
286 00:23:47.750 --> 00:23:48.769 Angie Bamford: Yeah, that's good.
287 00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:56.260 Angie Bamford: We did the similar sort of thing with our green spaces, you know, without took a picture of.
288 00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:59.699 Angie Bamford: and then sports field or whatever.
289 00:24:00.620 --> 00:24:03.470 Angie Bamford: So like you like you've done. And then
290 00:24:04.130 --> 00:24:12.219 Angie Bamford: attached user with the attachment, updated the the picture of it as a he has an attachment to that to that layer.
291 00:24:12.510 --> 00:24:20.010 john Roberts: Yeah, we've got those areas mapped out, and we've got a public map. But I haven't put the attachments onto the public map
292 00:24:20.230 --> 00:24:25.520 john Roberts: mainly because I'm not sure I can, and secondly, I thought that might be taking it a step too far.
293 00:24:28.280 --> 00:24:30.250 Sheila Churchward: That's me. I'm finished.
294 00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:32.899 Nick Reynolds: Useful. Thank you.
295 00:24:34.390 --> 00:24:37.400 Sheila Churchward: I wanted to know whether if we
296 00:24:39.630 --> 00:24:53.675 Sheila Churchward: when we put on allotments, you know, when we go online to the parish online, there's this allotments layer the national allotment. I use that I wanted to know.
297 00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:01.410 Sheila Churchward: how can I put that onto a website
298 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:14.729 Sheila Churchward: so that it could be utilized by, you know, by the people who manage the website. Can I do that? Or do they have to have access to parish online to manage the website themselves?
299 00:25:14.730 --> 00:25:15.639 Angie Bamford: Just a picture email.
300 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:18.079 Sheila Churchward: Manage the allotment themselves.
301 00:25:18.310 --> 00:25:18.875 john Roberts: Yeah,
302 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:25.620 john Roberts: before we go any further. If you get a noise in the background I'll mute myself because I've just been invaded by grandchildren.
303 00:25:29.370 --> 00:25:32.789 john Roberts: You can put it onto a website as a public map.
304 00:25:34.140 --> 00:25:38.069 john Roberts: so people will be able to see it as a public map. But they won't be able to do anything with it.
305 00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:40.370 Sheila Churchward: So on the phone.
306 00:25:41.060 --> 00:25:41.650 Sheila Churchward: If you want.
307 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:46.479 john Roberts: To change it. You will have to then give them access to Paris online.
308 00:25:47.310 --> 00:25:53.940 Sheila Churchward: Yeah to, can I? Can I actually say that I give them access to that particular
309 00:25:54.474 --> 00:26:08.070 Sheila Churchward: layer and do particular things? I know I can give them access to a layer or access to do things, but can I restrict them right down to only amending the the.
310 00:26:08.070 --> 00:26:11.600 john Roberts: As far as I know. No, you yeah.
311 00:26:11.600 --> 00:26:18.340 john Roberts: Various levels of access so that they can, if you like. View, do nothing or whatever.
312 00:26:18.340 --> 00:26:19.050 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
313 00:26:19.630 --> 00:26:24.430 john Roberts: But they will get that access to the whole of your parish online account.
314 00:26:25.070 --> 00:26:35.060 Sheila Churchward: Oh, right! I was wondering if I could give them that. I've looked. And it you. There's so many filtering systems, aren't there? And I was wondering whether I could.
315 00:26:35.060 --> 00:26:35.470 john Roberts: Yeah.
316 00:26:35.470 --> 00:26:49.000 Sheila Churchward: It's like in our church allotments. They they want to know if they can update their information themselves. And I'm saying, I don't think you can. Actually, I just give them access to it and send them a copy.
317 00:26:50.310 --> 00:26:50.970 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
318 00:26:51.460 --> 00:26:56.180 john Roberts: As as far as I know, you can't restrict it down to individual layer.
319 00:26:56.540 --> 00:27:00.379 john Roberts: No. Oh, it might be worth emailing, Graham, and asking him that one.
320 00:27:01.380 --> 00:27:02.279 Sheila Churchward: Thank you.
321 00:27:03.419 --> 00:27:05.119 Sheila Churchward: What was the other one?
322 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:13.440 Sheila Churchward: We're actually, we've actually got a village walk in the village, you know, throughout the village, looking at particular points.
323 00:27:13.620 --> 00:27:16.940 Sheila Churchward: and I want to install it on parish online.
324 00:27:17.786 --> 00:27:21.770 Sheila Churchward: Which I know I can do it as well. I've seen it before.
325 00:27:22.310 --> 00:27:33.820 Sheila Churchward: However, we've also got a project in the in the village for our environment group to set up a community digital platform, a website in effect.
326 00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:40.580 Sheila Churchward: And I wanted to connect that walk to the new website.
327 00:27:41.130 --> 00:27:51.149 Sheila Churchward: And I was wondering if anybody's done that, you know. Have you ever done something on your on parish online and connected it to an external website.
328 00:27:52.870 --> 00:28:03.816 Angie Bamford: Yeah, that's like pictures, you know you can. Whatever layers you've got, you can save it as a print as a Pdf, picture, if you like, and then doggy, woggy.
329 00:28:04.170 --> 00:28:05.750 john Roberts: That's the interruption.
330 00:28:05.750 --> 00:28:09.927 Angie Bamford: That's the interruption. That's not a great trial.
331 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:14.339 Angie Bamford: Yeah, save it as a picture. And put the picture on the on the website.
332 00:28:14.780 --> 00:28:22.670 Sheila Churchward: But they wouldn't be able to look at the commentary and the pictures. Would they? Just the route around the.
333 00:28:22.670 --> 00:28:26.509 Angie Bamford: Yeah, what? What information you want wanting to share about the route?
334 00:28:26.770 --> 00:28:29.869 Angie Bamford: Because you could put a little biography, or whatever about the.
335 00:28:29.870 --> 00:28:33.930 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, there's a little bit of commentary on every stop and a picture.
336 00:28:34.420 --> 00:28:34.870 Angie Bamford: Oh, my!
337 00:28:34.870 --> 00:28:45.290 Sheila Churchward: Well, I was wondering if if we link that to an external website, will will the commentary and the photo be included
338 00:28:46.180 --> 00:28:49.820 Sheila Churchward: in the in the extra, you know, with the connection.
339 00:28:50.170 --> 00:28:54.339 Sheila Churchward: so I don't understand enough. I'm showing my ignorance. I'm afraid.
340 00:28:54.340 --> 00:28:59.890 Angie Bamford: Something that you you have on your ears to when you go for a walk that you've got the commentary. Is that like a.
341 00:28:59.890 --> 00:29:09.079 Sheila Churchward: No, no, it'll just be when people will look when I'm parish online. I've been working at how I can work out.
342 00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:16.300 Sheila Churchward: draw the route and the photos, and for each photo there'll be a little bit of commentary.
343 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:21.530 Sheila Churchward: and I've worked out how I can do all that. But I want to know whether.
344 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:28.589 Sheila Churchward: if we set up the community website, whether I can connect it through
345 00:29:28.690 --> 00:29:34.710 Sheila Churchward: and they will still see the photos and the comment, listen to the commentary.
346 00:29:37.340 --> 00:29:45.069 Angie Bamford: I don't know if you can link them. I would just. I don't know what is John's expert, but I'll just take some stills and.
347 00:29:45.070 --> 00:29:48.830 Sheila Churchward: I'll just draw it. I'll just show him the drawer, the walk around then.
348 00:29:48.940 --> 00:29:59.780 Sheila Churchward: and I'm sure the photos have come through. But it was. I wondered whether I could put the commentary in, because people are very keen to to talk
349 00:30:00.110 --> 00:30:03.869 Sheila Churchward: on this, and I'm thinking, how on earth can I do it?
350 00:30:03.870 --> 00:30:05.010 Angie Bamford: Give me a deal.
351 00:30:06.450 --> 00:30:09.349 john Roberts: Are the other pictures on the website.
352 00:30:11.900 --> 00:30:14.570 Sheila Churchward: They're not there yet. We haven't got a website yet.
353 00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:15.530 john Roberts: Right.
354 00:30:15.820 --> 00:30:23.039 john Roberts: If you if you set up your website again, I'm going to share my screen, if I can.
355 00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:24.000 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
356 00:30:27.770 --> 00:30:30.030 Sheila Churchward: Right you you should. Oh, no! Hang on.
357 00:30:30.580 --> 00:30:37.120 john Roberts: Right you should now be looking. This is our planning application where we we record planning applications.
358 00:30:39.130 --> 00:30:40.729 john Roberts: When we set this up.
359 00:30:46.340 --> 00:30:48.339 john Roberts: if you look foot down here.
360 00:30:49.060 --> 00:30:50.020 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, that.
361 00:30:50.020 --> 00:30:51.240 john Roberts: That is a link.
362 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:52.610 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
363 00:30:52.610 --> 00:30:57.910 john Roberts: And that link will then take me hopefully if it's working
364 00:30:58.260 --> 00:31:01.399 john Roberts: to Sej. Moore's planning online website.
365 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:04.540 john Roberts: So you've got.
366 00:31:04.540 --> 00:31:05.410 Sheila Churchward: Afternoon.
367 00:31:06.020 --> 00:31:06.670 john Roberts: Sorry.
368 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:09.920 Sheila Churchward: I do that for our planning applications as well.
369 00:31:10.300 --> 00:31:12.470 john Roberts: Hang on. I stopped sharing there.
370 00:31:13.347 --> 00:31:17.170 john Roberts: So if you set up a website.
371 00:31:17.840 --> 00:31:20.310 john Roberts: you can link each of the pictures
372 00:31:20.800 --> 00:31:24.749 john Roberts: on on your the bit you want to publish to go to that website.
373 00:31:24.980 --> 00:31:25.740 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
374 00:31:26.180 --> 00:31:28.620 john Roberts: Same as you go to your planning application.
375 00:31:29.020 --> 00:31:29.880 Sheila Churchward: Yes.
376 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.630 Sheila Churchward: But do you think the common.
377 00:31:32.630 --> 00:31:37.429 john Roberts: I don't think I don't, that I don't know the answer, because if if
378 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.849 john Roberts: you need to try it because
379 00:31:41.520 --> 00:31:44.729 john Roberts: you can have a link to the commentary, but I don't know if it'll work.
380 00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:52.850 Sheila Churchward: Yes, because somebody's got. We've actually the group is, we have a group in the village called the Green Spaces Group. And it's their walk.
381 00:31:53.350 --> 00:32:06.760 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. And they've actually having it videoed. And when they get to each point they've got a little commentary, and they want to know whether I could, whether I could put the commentary on, but they've just asked me
382 00:32:07.010 --> 00:32:12.660 Sheila Churchward: to do the drawing, which is fine, and the pictures now they want commentary.
383 00:32:12.660 --> 00:32:14.680 john Roberts: They doing that with a QR code?
384 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:22.439 Sheila Churchward: Don't ask me a lot. We've got similar in the village with the National Trust.
385 00:32:22.670 --> 00:32:27.069 john Roberts: And they on their notice board. They have a little QR. Code.
386 00:32:27.220 --> 00:32:27.920 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
387 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:32.780 john Roberts: And then when people scan the QR code with their phone, it takes them to
388 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:36.469 john Roberts: a website that gives them the information on that QR. Code.
389 00:32:37.490 --> 00:32:41.930 john Roberts: Now, please do not ask me how to set that up.
390 00:32:41.930 --> 00:32:42.650 Angie Bamford: True, exactly.
391 00:32:42.650 --> 00:32:45.992 Angie Bamford: You didn't have to make a QR. Code.
392 00:32:47.480 --> 00:33:00.660 Sheila Churchward: You know, people people in the village. They're a few of them are really not it, Literate, but would love it to support them, you know, and you like to help.
393 00:33:01.030 --> 00:33:01.360 Angie Bamford: Wow!
394 00:33:01.530 --> 00:33:02.670 Sheila Churchward: I do like to have.
395 00:33:03.040 --> 00:33:08.540 john Roberts: Yeah, I would say, the QR code route is probably the best one you are.
396 00:33:09.210 --> 00:33:10.490 john Roberts: It will go
397 00:33:11.030 --> 00:33:16.650 john Roberts: on their phone. They click the QR. Code, and it will go direct to whatever the website is you've set up
398 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.429 john Roberts: and won't involve parish online at all.
399 00:33:21.910 --> 00:33:25.169 Sheila Churchward: Even if it's on parish online.
400 00:33:26.670 --> 00:33:30.640 Sheila Churchward: So what I do is I'm parish online. I drew the map
401 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:35.209 Sheila Churchward: and put the photos. But the QR code.
402 00:33:36.350 --> 00:33:38.959 Sheila Churchward: We can actually q, 1 of the map, can't you.
403 00:33:39.650 --> 00:33:40.240 john Roberts: Yeah.
404 00:33:42.460 --> 00:33:43.710 Sheila Churchward: Hmm, you can have a q. 1
405 00:33:44.560 --> 00:33:49.080 Sheila Churchward: would go would go to my map on on parish online.
406 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:54.780 john Roberts: Yeah. But you say, as they get to each space, is there anything at that space where they arrive
407 00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:59.620 john Roberts: where you could put a QR code, a physical QR code.
408 00:34:00.050 --> 00:34:04.270 Sheila Churchward: A poster. Oh, well, yes.
409 00:34:04.270 --> 00:34:07.329 Angie Bamford: Like a jump post, or like a gate, or.
410 00:34:07.690 --> 00:34:13.650 john Roberts: So they scan the QR code with their smartphone or whatever, and it will then take
411 00:34:14.429 --> 00:34:16.289 john Roberts: to the website with the information.
412 00:34:17.179 --> 00:34:18.089 Sheila Churchward: Right.
413 00:34:20.520 --> 00:34:21.580 john Roberts: Nothing stopping, you.
414 00:34:21.580 --> 00:34:23.809 Sheila Churchward: But they've actually got to be there then.
415 00:34:23.949 --> 00:34:39.019 Sheila Churchward: because that the idea was that I provided this. And then, as people walk, doing, doing the going around the map. They pick click on a point where there's a photo, and then they'd get the commentary.
416 00:34:40.230 --> 00:34:42.830 Sheila Churchward: This is what they're asking for.
417 00:34:42.830 --> 00:34:46.139 Angie Bamford: Have to have parish online open all the time during their walk, wouldn't they?
418 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.730 Sheila Churchward: Well, they wouldn't have it, would they? All my personal.
419 00:34:50.730 --> 00:34:53.469 Angie Bamford: And QR. Code, like John said, would be your best option.
420 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:54.409 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
421 00:34:54.429 --> 00:34:56.199 Angie Bamford: I mean, if you're gonna.
422 00:34:56.199 --> 00:35:00.089 john Roberts: You're gonna generate. If you're gonna create a website for this walk.
423 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:08.399 john Roberts: then I would. Yes, you can do your map with parish online and then print it as a Pdf. Or whatever, and have it on that website.
424 00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:10.009 Angie Bamford: So I would do.
425 00:35:11.265 --> 00:35:13.439 john Roberts: The problem you've got was
426 00:35:13.710 --> 00:35:18.379 john Roberts: parish online will accept attachments as documents or photographs.
427 00:35:18.520 --> 00:35:21.040 Sheila Churchward: But it's got a limit on the size.
428 00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:29.160 john Roberts: And this is why I can't even a short stretch of video. I can't put that on parish online because the the file size is too big.
429 00:35:29.780 --> 00:35:31.190 Sheila Churchward: Right. Thank you very much.
430 00:35:31.190 --> 00:35:33.889 john Roberts: Your commentary may hit the same thing.
431 00:35:34.100 --> 00:35:36.260 Angie Bamford: Your audio would take up a lot of space.
432 00:35:36.260 --> 00:35:37.330 Sheila Churchward: It's a file
433 00:35:40.590 --> 00:35:41.889 Sheila Churchward: audio phone.
434 00:35:44.930 --> 00:35:54.609 Sheila Churchward: But you can bet your bottom dollar if we put in commentary with voice, they'll say, Well, can you put in the pictures. The area as well.
435 00:35:54.610 --> 00:35:58.479 Angie Bamford: Well that all can be done by via QR. Code. Just a QR code on.
436 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:01.280 Sheila Churchward: A QR. Code seems to be the best way forward.
437 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:02.600 Angie Bamford: Totally funny.
438 00:36:02.600 --> 00:36:09.980 john Roberts: Yeah, I mean a QR code that takes them to the website that you've set up. And then that's it. They can navigate it as they wish.
439 00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:12.370 Sheila Churchward: Right. Well, thank you very much.
440 00:36:12.370 --> 00:36:15.231 Angie Bamford: Don't think that Wi-fi on their walk.
441 00:36:16.210 --> 00:36:23.105 Sheila Churchward: With QR codes. How do you keep them safe? You know, because this will be our parish online is on
442 00:36:24.500 --> 00:36:27.999 Sheila Churchward: is on the is a secure system.
443 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.510 Sheila Churchward: So a QR code would click into a secure system, wouldn't it?
444 00:36:36.510 --> 00:36:41.770 john Roberts: Your QR code's not taking you to parish online. It's taking you to a website you've set up.
445 00:36:42.650 --> 00:36:43.540 Sheila Churchward: Oh!
446 00:36:43.890 --> 00:36:50.379 Angie Bamford: It's like when you, when you have to go for your car parking, or whatever. And there's a QR. Code that goes straight to the car Parking company for them.
447 00:36:50.600 --> 00:36:52.519 Angie Bamford: or if you go to the other end.
448 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:59.699 Angie Bamford: British Legion, or whatever you you scan in the QR. Code, up goes to British Legion. You can donate your money to the Poppy Appeal. Things like that.
449 00:37:00.080 --> 00:37:00.760 Sheila Churchward: Right.
450 00:37:01.080 --> 00:37:06.570 john Roberts: I mean when you go to the car parks. Now you got you have to be very careful, because they people have been scamming them. But
451 00:37:07.046 --> 00:37:10.410 john Roberts: you you can QR code and pay for your parking.
452 00:37:11.260 --> 00:37:15.499 john Roberts: I won't do it, because the East Asia, paying somebody else.
453 00:37:15.990 --> 00:37:18.559 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, you don't know what's happening, do you?
454 00:37:18.900 --> 00:37:20.849 john Roberts: But it's just the same.
455 00:37:20.970 --> 00:37:26.380 john Roberts: Yeah, the the QR code. It directs your phone to look at a website. That's it.
456 00:37:27.680 --> 00:37:31.370 Sheila Churchward: On your website, safe or no, it's not interesting.
457 00:37:31.370 --> 00:37:33.280 Angie Bamford: Your QR. Code up. Just put.
458 00:37:33.420 --> 00:37:43.270 Angie Bamford: I don't know when you print it off. Put something like, your parish council email, address and number or something on the bottom of it, to make sure it's rather than just a random code.
459 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.040 john Roberts: The thing is with what you're doing. There's no money involved.
460 00:37:47.290 --> 00:37:47.830 Angie Bamford: Yeah, true.
461 00:37:47.830 --> 00:37:48.470 Sheila Churchward: No.
462 00:37:48.750 --> 00:37:50.750 john Roberts: So I don't. You know. It's
463 00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:55.629 john Roberts: fairly certain that people are going to leave it alone. Your.
464 00:37:56.130 --> 00:37:56.790 Angie Bamford: Yeah. No.
465 00:37:56.790 --> 00:38:02.989 john Roberts: Your biggest, your biggest hazard will be people damaging the boards, or whatever.
466 00:38:02.990 --> 00:38:05.220 Sheila Churchward: Well, yeah, people.
467 00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:09.319 Sheila Churchward: Yes, we had a lot of problem with the graffiti.
468 00:38:11.900 --> 00:38:22.639 Sheila Churchward: Oh, thank you very much. That's a great help as a start. Fortunately, I've got some young people from Exeter College going to help set up our new website.
469 00:38:22.640 --> 00:38:23.050 Angie Bamford: Yes.
470 00:38:23.050 --> 00:38:28.299 Sheila Churchward: And they are very aware that it is for our environment.
471 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.480 Sheila Churchward: the website or an open environment.
472 00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:34.740 john Roberts: I would say they're probably more
473 00:38:36.150 --> 00:38:39.240 john Roberts: mind with things like QR. Codes than we are, so.
474 00:38:39.580 --> 00:38:39.930 Sheila Churchward: Yes.
475 00:38:39.930 --> 00:38:41.820 john Roberts: It'd be worth talking to them.
476 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.590 Sheila Churchward: Oh, yes, I hope so. They're good.
477 00:38:44.590 --> 00:38:47.740 Angie Bamford: Plants and birds, and all sorts.
478 00:38:48.870 --> 00:38:49.340 Sheila Churchward: I know.
479 00:38:49.340 --> 00:38:49.930 Angie Bamford: That.
480 00:38:50.120 --> 00:38:50.700 john Roberts: Yeah.
481 00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:51.460 Sheila Churchward: We look.
482 00:38:51.460 --> 00:38:55.620 john Roberts: Did you have any sorry, Nick? Did you have any questions or.
483 00:38:55.620 --> 00:38:57.230 Nick Reynolds: Not specifically, no.
484 00:38:57.820 --> 00:39:02.019 john Roberts: Well, you're like me filling in a an hour on a Friday afternoon.
485 00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:09.309 Nick Reynolds: Absolutely. I mean, I do find these sessions very useful, and I normally can't attend because of work. But obviously today is a special day.
486 00:39:09.730 --> 00:39:10.320 john Roberts: Okay.
487 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:11.240 Sheila Churchward: That's fine, good.
488 00:39:11.240 --> 00:39:11.870 john Roberts: All right.
489 00:39:12.110 --> 00:39:12.670 Sheila Churchward: Hmm!
490 00:39:13.580 --> 00:39:16.630 Sheila Churchward: Whereabouts do you live in? Then, Nick.
491 00:39:18.330 --> 00:39:22.510 Nick Reynolds: Parish called Fairfield, which is just outside of Letchworth Garden City.
492 00:39:23.250 --> 00:39:24.180 Sheila Churchward: That's case.
493 00:39:24.340 --> 00:39:29.030 Sheila Churchward: My cousin lives in Fairfield, in Stockton, on Tees.
494 00:39:29.030 --> 00:39:29.670 Nick Reynolds: All right.
495 00:39:30.080 --> 00:39:36.370 Sheila Churchward: No, it's it's very confusing. When names have this. There's similar names all over the country, isn't it?
496 00:39:36.370 --> 00:39:41.510 Nick Reynolds: Yes, indeed, I mean it normally comes up with Fairfield in somewhere in America, but.
497 00:39:41.750 --> 00:39:42.700 Sheila Churchward: Oh, yeah.
498 00:39:42.700 --> 00:39:43.860 Nick Reynolds: For our sins.
499 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.739 john Roberts: Yeah, it is. I think, that the worst one is Gillingham and Gillingham.
500 00:39:47.740 --> 00:39:48.220 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
501 00:39:50.380 --> 00:39:52.189 Angie Bamford: Okay, wait a minute.
502 00:39:52.580 --> 00:39:57.159 john Roberts: And then we I got confused once with Tunbridge and Tunbridge Wells.
503 00:39:57.160 --> 00:39:57.559 Sheila Churchward: Don't really.
504 00:39:57.560 --> 00:39:58.160 john Roberts: One.
505 00:39:58.450 --> 00:39:59.429 Sheila Churchward: Other 2.
506 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:00.890 john Roberts: I didn't realize.
507 00:40:00.890 --> 00:40:03.780 john Roberts: Yeah, yeah, not very far apart, as it happened.
508 00:40:04.270 --> 00:40:04.930 Sheila Churchward: Oh!
509 00:40:05.310 --> 00:40:11.889 john Roberts: But it get it can get worse. We we spend time in France and
510 00:40:12.270 --> 00:40:16.849 john Roberts: it it's fatal over there, because they've got so many places that have got exactly the same name.
511 00:40:17.652 --> 00:40:23.169 john Roberts: And if you're not careful, you can find yourself driving miles and miles and miles, not being where you are.
512 00:40:23.650 --> 00:40:24.150 Nick Reynolds: Yeah.
513 00:40:25.060 --> 00:40:31.489 john Roberts: Sure, but I've got nothing else for this afternoon. I don't know if anybody else.
514 00:40:32.050 --> 00:40:34.480 Sheila Churchward: Nick, have you got any questions? Really.
515 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:36.129 Nick Reynolds: I haven't no sorry.
516 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.630 Sheila Churchward: Do you use it at all? How much do you use parish online.
517 00:40:39.630 --> 00:40:43.019 Nick Reynolds: Not as not as much as I should do, but.
518 00:40:43.020 --> 00:40:44.100 Sheila Churchward: Oh, no! Me!
519 00:40:44.100 --> 00:40:49.729 Nick Reynolds: I've got some useful tips from this session today. So hopefully going forward, I will be able to put it into practice.
520 00:40:50.670 --> 00:40:56.899 Sheila Churchward: Are you ever able to come to the meetings when or the chats when Greg's there.
521 00:40:58.210 --> 00:41:02.850 Nick Reynolds: I have done in the past a couple of times, but normally no, because I work on a Friday.
522 00:41:04.649 --> 00:41:19.450 Angie Bamford: graham said he was because I did a presentation on the candle with the same before everybody. Before she and John came I I gave a presentation, December 23, to to Graham, to everybody in the group.
523 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:27.209 Angie Bamford: And he was asking for it again last week. So I sent it to him and he said, He's put it on the Wiki parish online. Wiki.
524 00:41:28.190 --> 00:41:29.210 Angie Bamford: That was good.
525 00:41:29.210 --> 00:41:31.300 Angie Bamford: If you look on, if you look on there.
526 00:41:31.670 --> 00:41:39.319 Angie Bamford: it's only a short presentation, but it is the basics of how I did the how I use parish online for the neighborhood plan.
527 00:41:39.860 --> 00:41:42.463 Angie Bamford: I mean, I said I'd do 4 slides for him, but
528 00:41:43.010 --> 00:41:54.424 Angie Bamford: so it might. I don't know what he's called it, but it was like it should be State Mandel neighborhood plan. He might stuck some Hs 2 stuff in there. He might. He might have called it all sorts.
529 00:41:54.710 --> 00:41:56.439 Nick Reynolds: I'll have a look for it. Thank you.
530 00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:57.320 Angie Bamford: Okay.
531 00:41:57.580 --> 00:42:02.430 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, we're going through a neighborhood plan now, and a refreshing hours.
532 00:42:02.870 --> 00:42:04.200 Nick Reynolds: That's what we're doing.
533 00:42:04.200 --> 00:42:11.509 Sheila Churchward: Are you? And we put ours in in 2013 14. And now.
534 00:42:11.510 --> 00:42:12.840 Nick Reynolds: Not long after that.
535 00:42:13.050 --> 00:42:13.580 Sheila Churchward: Pardon.
536 00:42:14.010 --> 00:42:16.609 Nick Reynolds: Were not long after that 15 or 16.
537 00:42:16.910 --> 00:42:25.281 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, we find it so much more different now, because life's gone on and
538 00:42:26.530 --> 00:42:41.990 Sheila Churchward: we we ended at the beginning. We had about 15 or 16 actions. Now we've got 7 projects coming out of this one, which is enormous, you know, and it's not small things like it was before.
539 00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:44.260 Sheila Churchward: So we do.
540 00:42:44.810 --> 00:42:47.129 Sheila Churchward: How are you getting on with your ndp.
541 00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:51.970 Nick Reynolds: Sorry was that to me.
542 00:42:51.970 --> 00:42:52.810 Sheila Churchward: Yes. Sorry.
543 00:42:52.810 --> 00:42:53.180 john Roberts: Yeah.
544 00:42:53.677 --> 00:43:01.590 Nick Reynolds: Yeah, sorry. We're only holding our second meeting this coming week of the the planning group.
545 00:43:02.569 --> 00:43:10.340 Nick Reynolds: We got certain the previous meeting. We had a very helpful lady from the local Unitary council,
546 00:43:11.740 --> 00:43:20.249 Nick Reynolds: basically pointing out the pitfalls and what we needed to do to get this parish plan with some force behind it.
547 00:43:20.420 --> 00:43:28.333 Nick Reynolds: And basically, we've got to do the plan as quickly as we can, and then
548 00:43:29.460 --> 00:43:36.789 Nick Reynolds: do public consultation, because that's the way to get force behind it is the carry out consultation.
549 00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:38.540 Sheila Churchward: We.
550 00:43:38.540 --> 00:43:38.900 john Roberts: Yeah.
551 00:43:38.900 --> 00:43:45.180 Sheila Churchward: So we had to do a type, a certain sort of plan. I'll just look through my notes and let you know.
552 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:50.710 Sheila Churchward: so that you have, you know about it? And Dp, no.
553 00:43:53.010 --> 00:44:00.549 Sheila Churchward: we had to put in place a particular type of plan, for we'll go back.
554 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:06.400 Sheila Churchward: We've actually joined up with a few other local parishes.
555 00:44:07.060 --> 00:44:18.589 Sheila Churchward: and we were oh, infrastructure plan! We were told we must have an infrastructure plan and make it part of the Ndp. And that was completely new to us.
556 00:44:21.350 --> 00:44:22.520 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, it's.
557 00:44:23.790 --> 00:44:26.360 john Roberts: One of the things with neighbourhood plans at the moment
558 00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.369 john Roberts: is because ours is coming up for review.
559 00:44:29.730 --> 00:44:36.490 john Roberts: But when I, when we made the Neighborhood Plan. We were part of a District council, and
560 00:44:36.650 --> 00:44:44.859 john Roberts: obviously the Neighborhood Plan has to fit in with not only the planning framework, but also the Council's local plan.
561 00:44:45.730 --> 00:44:52.210 john Roberts: Since then we've gone from being that to being part of a unitary authority who are now
562 00:44:52.890 --> 00:44:55.129 john Roberts: devising their own local plan.
563 00:44:55.680 --> 00:45:02.850 john Roberts: And we've not, we not yet know what the government changes, what changes the Government are going to make.
564 00:45:03.100 --> 00:45:08.160 Sheila Churchward: To the National Planning policy framework so.
565 00:45:08.900 --> 00:45:14.979 john Roberts: What we do know is that when the new plan comes out from the unitary.
566 00:45:15.090 --> 00:45:19.090 john Roberts: we will have to amend our neighborhood plan to fit in with it.
567 00:45:19.520 --> 00:45:25.000 john Roberts: and they will have to amend their local plan to fit in with whatever the government have decided.
568 00:45:25.580 --> 00:45:30.049 john Roberts: So don't make hard and fast decisions at the moment.
569 00:45:30.930 --> 00:45:43.890 Sheila Churchward: No, but you've got to have something already, and when you go out to your community you've got to come up with some ideas of to help them to make them a decision.
570 00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:46.680 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, sometimes.
571 00:45:46.810 --> 00:45:53.420 john Roberts: Yeah. And we sometimes the planners will listen to a neighborhood plan. Other times they seem to ignore it.
572 00:45:53.910 --> 00:46:01.989 Sheila Churchward: Well, it it all depends if you're looking in the same direction as them, doesn't it? You know we've it's got to be new housing.
573 00:46:02.720 --> 00:46:08.390 Sheila Churchward: and we've actually gone for looking at affordable housing.
574 00:46:08.850 --> 00:46:25.210 Sheila Churchward: And we've identified plots of land around and about to support. I think it. It is 13 affordable homes or 15 affordable homes, and up to 8, 80 or 90 market houses
575 00:46:25.510 --> 00:46:29.237 Sheila Churchward: in our in our village. Our village isn't very big.
576 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:39.329 Sheila Churchward: you know, putting a putting 80 houses in our village is going to be really quite difficult, but we found space, and of those 80
577 00:46:39.460 --> 00:46:46.800 Sheila Churchward: 15, I think, are affordable, and it will only go to locals, and we're trying to get
578 00:46:47.330 --> 00:46:56.530 Sheila Churchward: the the other of the remaining 80 a bit more affordable. But it's down to the argument at the end, isn't it?
579 00:46:56.530 --> 00:47:00.060 john Roberts: It. It'll come down to the developer and viability.
580 00:47:00.310 --> 00:47:01.130 Sheila Churchward: Yes.
581 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:04.480 john Roberts: No, this is where we came, a cropper, but.
582 00:47:04.980 --> 00:47:10.550 Sheila Churchward: But if we buy the land, if we actually, we're actually talking about buying land for the 15,
583 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.549 Sheila Churchward: so we can demand that they are affordable, you know.
584 00:47:14.550 --> 00:47:17.516 Sheila Churchward: In that case you can. Yeah, yeah. And
585 00:47:18.710 --> 00:47:20.830 john Roberts: Hi, Wendy, manage that afterwards.
586 00:47:21.990 --> 00:47:23.680 Nick Reynolds: We haven't got that far.
587 00:47:25.170 --> 00:47:29.759 Sheila Churchward: It's not my pigeon on foot, you know. I'm just in one of the projects, but.
588 00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.799 john Roberts: We had a village near here where
589 00:47:33.290 --> 00:47:37.540 john Roberts: they set up a community land trust and
590 00:47:38.860 --> 00:47:42.020 john Roberts: built on there so many affordable homes.
591 00:47:42.500 --> 00:47:47.770 john Roberts: They set up a committee of trustees to to run it.
592 00:47:48.560 --> 00:47:53.389 john Roberts: and 6 months down the line the trustees fell out with the Parish Council.
593 00:47:53.390 --> 00:47:53.760 Angie Bamford: Oh!
594 00:47:54.790 --> 00:47:58.309 john Roberts: And that that was what 3 years ago, and that
595 00:47:58.460 --> 00:48:01.489 john Roberts: argument is still going on and on and on.
596 00:48:01.660 --> 00:48:06.580 john Roberts: because the Parish Council want to go one direction, and the trustees are saying, No, we're going another direction.
597 00:48:07.640 --> 00:48:11.660 john Roberts: It was originally the Parish Council, so.
598 00:48:12.720 --> 00:48:15.059 Sheila Churchward: So don't hand over to the trust.
599 00:48:15.660 --> 00:48:17.239 john Roberts: No, the problem is it?
600 00:48:18.100 --> 00:48:22.260 john Roberts: As with all of us parish councillors are, we're amateurs.
601 00:48:22.936 --> 00:48:27.399 john Roberts: and although we've got expertise in whatever we did before.
602 00:48:27.780 --> 00:48:31.690 john Roberts: We're not landlords. We're not architects, we're not surveyors.
603 00:48:32.130 --> 00:48:36.799 john Roberts: And so if you take on property or anything like that.
604 00:48:36.950 --> 00:48:43.330 john Roberts: you've really got to have somebody else that runs it for you, or takes it over because.
605 00:48:43.330 --> 00:48:43.870 Sheila Churchward: Yes.
606 00:48:44.980 --> 00:48:48.639 john Roberts: We've got one clerk, you know. We're a small village. We've got one clerk.
607 00:48:49.110 --> 00:48:51.579 john Roberts: The rest of us are part-time counsellors.
608 00:48:52.156 --> 00:48:55.839 john Roberts: We're going through the same at the moment, because our health center
609 00:48:56.080 --> 00:49:01.480 john Roberts: is owned by the wives of the previous doctors, and they're looking to sell it.
610 00:49:03.100 --> 00:49:07.599 john Roberts: And what we want to secure, we want to secure it for the village.
611 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:15.070 john Roberts: So yeah, raising money and everything else. But we've got that question. Who runs it? If we take it over.
612 00:49:15.070 --> 00:49:15.720 Angie Bamford: Yeah.
613 00:49:17.270 --> 00:49:20.769 john Roberts: Because you've got building maintenance. You've got all sorts to think about.
614 00:49:21.100 --> 00:49:21.620 Sheila Churchward: I know.
615 00:49:21.620 --> 00:49:24.669 john Roberts: So it's worth bearing in mind. If you look in that route.
616 00:49:25.630 --> 00:49:26.190 Nick Reynolds: Okay.
617 00:49:26.190 --> 00:49:26.710 Sheila Churchward: Yes.
618 00:49:26.710 --> 00:49:30.930 Angie Bamford: And it always comes back to the same people doing this. Yeah, helping out.
619 00:49:31.940 --> 00:49:36.600 Sheila Churchward: But we won't be here when those houses are 100 years old. Will we?
620 00:49:36.990 --> 00:49:37.600 john Roberts: No.
621 00:49:38.210 --> 00:49:38.680 Sheila Churchward: No.
622 00:49:38.680 --> 00:49:39.290 john Roberts: No.
623 00:49:40.110 --> 00:49:40.700 john Roberts: But anyway.
624 00:49:40.700 --> 00:49:41.020 Sheila Churchward: And.
625 00:49:41.020 --> 00:49:42.200 john Roberts: I'm gonna.
626 00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:46.989 Angie Bamford: I'm gonna say goodbye and go and play with my puppy now. So.
627 00:49:47.810 --> 00:49:50.460 Sheila Churchward: Not yet Easter.
628 00:49:50.650 --> 00:49:54.080 Angie Bamford: Nikki, all right, and you bye, bye, sir, from the chat.
629 00:49:54.240 --> 00:49:55.280 Nick Reynolds: I did. I saw that.
630 00:49:55.850 --> 00:49:59.959 Angie Bamford: I hope it takes you there. How you said you put it on the wiki. I don't know. If it's there or not.
631 00:49:59.960 --> 00:50:00.330 Nick Reynolds: Okay.
632 00:50:00.860 --> 00:50:01.435 Angie Bamford: Okay.
633 00:50:02.010 --> 00:50:03.700 Nick Reynolds: Thanks a lot. Take care! Everybody.
634 00:50:03.700 --> 00:50:06.000 Angie Bamford: Bye, bye.
635 00:50:06.200 --> 00:50:07.180 Sheila Churchward: Bye.