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88 00:05:09.470 --> 00:05:16.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's okay. We're just about to ask Sheila if she'd like to go with her 1st question because. 89 00:05:17.455 --> 00:05:21.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you have an issue with any application. Sheila. 90 00:05:22.280 --> 00:05:30.290 Sheila Churchward: Yes, I do. Well, I don't understand what I'm supposed to do. I'll probably made some silly error when I do a planning application. 91 00:05:30.530 --> 00:05:37.970 Sheila Churchward: you know, and I I go into on the left hand side. I click on planning and planning maps outlines. 92 00:05:38.290 --> 00:05:41.299 Sheila Churchward: I then I'll identify the 93 00:05:41.350 --> 00:05:43.510 Sheila Churchward: property that I'm looking at. 94 00:05:44.710 --> 00:05:47.049 Sheila Churchward: and of course I do a line around it. 95 00:05:47.490 --> 00:05:53.719 Sheila Churchward: When I actually come to present that planning application, I'd like to just show 96 00:05:54.020 --> 00:05:59.660 Sheila Churchward: that particular item. You know that particular property. But what I'd get is 97 00:05:59.850 --> 00:06:09.190 Sheila Churchward: all the properties that I've done plan application for. And I I just can't remember how to do if there is a way, or is, you know. 98 00:06:09.250 --> 00:06:11.580 Sheila Churchward: have I done it? Have I set it up wrong? 99 00:06:12.395 --> 00:06:16.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm just looking. You're using the planning layer that's already there, right. 100 00:06:16.660 --> 00:06:17.990 Sheila Churchward: Yes, I am. 101 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:24.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's meant to do outlines only for sort of things like your neighborhood plan. 102 00:06:24.530 --> 00:06:25.360 Sheila Churchward: Oh, it's. 103 00:06:25.570 --> 00:06:28.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's the when you are doing planning out. 104 00:06:28.880 --> 00:06:29.510 Sheila Churchward: Wow! 105 00:06:29.510 --> 00:06:37.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Such as building to, you know, putting a new roof on a house or extending something. I think you need to be in parish layers, and create your own. 106 00:06:39.660 --> 00:06:47.230 Sheila Churchward: And so, if I do that, and I go into parish layers, and do I have to create? I have to create one layer, don't I. 107 00:06:47.350 --> 00:06:50.770 Sheila Churchward: I don't have to create a layer for every single property. 108 00:06:50.770 --> 00:06:52.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, no, no, just just the one there. 109 00:06:53.504 --> 00:07:01.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So let me just share my screen briefly with you, Sheila, and I'll show you what I've done at my end. 110 00:07:03.450 --> 00:07:05.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, let's only go there. 111 00:07:10.760 --> 00:07:12.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go, so you can see that 112 00:07:14.640 --> 00:07:15.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: on the screen. 113 00:07:16.055 --> 00:07:16.410 Sheila Churchward: Yes! 114 00:07:16.410 --> 00:07:22.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? So in the planning maps, outlines, all it does is give you the outline around a property. 115 00:07:23.226 --> 00:07:27.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But if you go into parish layers, and you create your own. 116 00:07:27.330 --> 00:07:31.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and everybody has a different way of doing it. But I've got my current application. 117 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:33.739 Sheila Churchward: Oh, you got planning applications. Yeah. 118 00:07:33.740 --> 00:07:40.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, so if I was just to say, Show you the sorts of information I put in there. 119 00:07:40.470 --> 00:07:46.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I asked for the application number, the house, name, and address, and the date of the application. 120 00:07:46.380 --> 00:07:46.790 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 121 00:07:47.437 --> 00:07:50.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then we put in the link to the 122 00:07:50.670 --> 00:07:53.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: portal for the local planning authority. 123 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:57.855 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so that anyone who's looking at this and we publish this on 124 00:07:58.440 --> 00:07:58.870 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 125 00:07:58.870 --> 00:08:00.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Site is public map. 126 00:08:00.880 --> 00:08:03.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: then all they do is if we 127 00:08:03.330 --> 00:08:07.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: turn on those layers, for instance, if they say they want to see 128 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: this one, they would just click on it. 129 00:08:10.200 --> 00:08:12.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and up would come the information 130 00:08:13.150 --> 00:08:15.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: on that one, and then. 131 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:15.580 Sheila Churchward: Right. 132 00:08:15.580 --> 00:08:17.467 Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is your local 133 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:26.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones: parish Council type decisions. When do they listen to it? When do they do? But then you have down here the link to the portal. 134 00:08:26.790 --> 00:08:29.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and so if I click on there. 135 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:31.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it brings up in the. 136 00:08:31.940 --> 00:08:33.150 Sheila Churchward: That council. 137 00:08:33.150 --> 00:08:42.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, exactly. And the bill. It's got all the details here in particular. If you're interested, you can get all the documents. So you should know you're encountering Somerset yourself, aren't you? 138 00:08:42.100 --> 00:08:44.070 Sheila Churchward: Me. No, I'm dead. 139 00:08:44.070 --> 00:08:45.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And in this the the team. 140 00:08:45.510 --> 00:08:52.210 Sheila Churchward: But I use this all the time. I use the Devon County Council one, you see. Exactly the same. Yeah, I use that all the time. 141 00:08:52.210 --> 00:08:58.934 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just my my hint to you would be to include that link in your planning application. 142 00:08:59.330 --> 00:09:00.219 Sheila Churchward: In a layer. 143 00:09:00.220 --> 00:09:01.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, and. 144 00:09:01.190 --> 00:09:02.540 Sheila Churchward: Set up a new layer. 145 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:06.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Well, yes, I I'll send you an example of all the 146 00:09:07.230 --> 00:09:09.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: what's in our layer for you, if you like, and you can. 147 00:09:09.880 --> 00:09:11.260 Sheila Churchward: Lovely. Thank you. 148 00:09:11.260 --> 00:09:13.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is this to follow on? Okay. 149 00:09:13.270 --> 00:09:19.769 Sheila Churchward: So in the meantime, these ones I've got already on mine, which are several. 150 00:09:19.770 --> 00:09:26.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Think they're going to be much use. But if you'd like to share your screen, and we can just take a look at them and see if there's anything you can do with them. 151 00:09:27.820 --> 00:09:30.050 Sheila Churchward: I've never shared my screen. 152 00:09:30.050 --> 00:09:35.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. So at the bottom, if you put your maps down at the bottom of the screen, it'll be a big green button shows up. 153 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.300 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It says, share, screen. 154 00:09:39.810 --> 00:09:41.310 Sheila Churchward: This toggle map. 155 00:09:42.510 --> 00:09:43.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it. 156 00:09:43.780 --> 00:09:47.339 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, then you I haven't got any big green buttons. 157 00:09:48.306 --> 00:09:50.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What sort of computer are you using. 158 00:09:50.310 --> 00:09:51.880 Sheila Churchward: I'm using my laptop. 159 00:09:52.060 --> 00:09:53.639 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it on windows. 160 00:09:54.040 --> 00:09:55.659 Sheila Churchward: Yes, windows. 11. 161 00:09:55.660 --> 00:10:01.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. So if you move your mouse down to the bottom of the zoom screen, you need to be in zoom. 162 00:10:03.140 --> 00:10:04.130 Sheila Churchward: well, I'm 163 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:08.620 Sheila Churchward: yes. Well on zoom yes, share screen on zoom. 164 00:10:08.620 --> 00:10:09.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go! Yes. 165 00:10:09.710 --> 00:10:10.510 Sheila Churchward: There we go. 166 00:10:11.980 --> 00:10:13.130 Sheila Churchward: so that one. 167 00:10:15.610 --> 00:10:18.240 Sheila Churchward: So I've clicked on it to her, and it said, Hold. 168 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:25.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It asks you, which of the windows do you want to actually show? So you can click on either? Yeah, there you go. You're in the mood. 169 00:10:26.160 --> 00:10:27.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? Good. 170 00:10:28.630 --> 00:10:29.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So 171 00:10:29.890 --> 00:10:33.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: yes, you're not in parish layers, are you? You're in planning. 172 00:10:33.810 --> 00:10:34.420 Sheila Churchward: Yes. 173 00:10:34.420 --> 00:10:35.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So 174 00:10:35.250 --> 00:10:37.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you get the outline, but that's all it does. 175 00:10:38.620 --> 00:10:44.360 Sheila Churchward: That's right, and I see all of it. I see every single item. You know. I've got 176 00:10:44.380 --> 00:10:46.970 Sheila Churchward: all the all the planning apps that are there. 177 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:48.389 Sheila Churchward: And I was 178 00:10:49.090 --> 00:10:50.520 Sheila Churchward: right, isn't. 179 00:10:50.660 --> 00:10:58.939 Sheila Churchward: And I was. What I want to do is make it yeah? Well, like you've got with it each year. Put them all in in each year. 180 00:10:58.940 --> 00:11:02.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So what if you click on one of those? Now. 181 00:11:02.590 --> 00:11:04.519 Graham Stoddart-Stones: anyone doesn't matter which one. 182 00:11:04.950 --> 00:11:05.939 Sheila Churchward: You know. Get my. 183 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:06.910 Sheila Churchward: yeah. 184 00:11:11.990 --> 00:11:12.669 Sheila Churchward: Doesn't do. 185 00:11:12.670 --> 00:11:16.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What happens? Nothing comes up. And oh, there we go. Yeah. So. 186 00:11:16.340 --> 00:11:20.770 Sheila Churchward: This is the basic information from the system. I haven't added to it at all. 187 00:11:20.770 --> 00:11:30.300 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, but it's just the ownership boundary. She's not not much help to you when it comes to saying, you know, are you going to extend the roof line. Are you going to build an extra garage or something. 188 00:11:30.510 --> 00:11:31.400 Sheila Churchward: No. 189 00:11:31.400 --> 00:11:32.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So. 190 00:11:32.290 --> 00:11:35.729 Sheila Churchward: The thing is also I wanted to get it set up ready, because 191 00:11:35.880 --> 00:11:36.464 Sheila Churchward: in 192 00:11:37.450 --> 00:11:38.750 Sheila Churchward: in our 193 00:11:40.180 --> 00:11:41.310 Sheila Churchward: area 194 00:11:42.820 --> 00:11:43.770 Sheila Churchward: here. 195 00:11:44.740 --> 00:11:46.649 Sheila Churchward: all this area here. 196 00:11:46.680 --> 00:11:49.330 Sheila Churchward: around this is the a, 30. 197 00:11:49.470 --> 00:11:50.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 198 00:11:50.460 --> 00:11:52.880 Sheila Churchward: That's that's the M. 5. 199 00:11:53.770 --> 00:11:54.890 Sheila Churchward: Here. 200 00:11:54.890 --> 00:11:55.220 Helen Davey: Oh! 201 00:11:55.220 --> 00:11:55.860 Sheila Churchward: Is 202 00:11:56.100 --> 00:12:00.319 Sheila Churchward: all sorts of new development. This is all new development here. 203 00:12:00.530 --> 00:12:01.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 204 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:04.200 Sheila Churchward: We've got 2,000 houses being built in there. 205 00:12:04.810 --> 00:12:05.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 206 00:12:05.420 --> 00:12:07.220 Sheila Churchward: Here. There's a few already. 207 00:12:07.590 --> 00:12:09.610 Sheila Churchward: and what I wanted to do was 208 00:12:09.780 --> 00:12:13.780 Sheila Churchward: identify that as an area we call it Matford 209 00:12:14.970 --> 00:12:17.820 Sheila Churchward: and I wanted to put everything for Matford 210 00:12:18.140 --> 00:12:19.990 Sheila Churchward: in into that 211 00:12:21.251 --> 00:12:25.169 Sheila Churchward: I was trying to figure out ways of doing it. 212 00:12:26.180 --> 00:12:33.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, the the simplest thing to do is to create a a new layer with of a polygon geometry. 213 00:12:33.860 --> 00:12:40.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, then you'll be able to draw your polygon around the outside, and everything inside will be part of Matford. 214 00:12:40.920 --> 00:12:41.560 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 215 00:12:41.990 --> 00:12:45.039 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You just want to show the size of the area right? 216 00:12:45.790 --> 00:12:55.450 Sheila Churchward: Well, yes, and also there's so much going on in there. We've got major applications coming in all the time. At the moment we're getting all the reserved 217 00:12:55.890 --> 00:12:57.750 Sheila Churchward: reserved information. 218 00:12:58.540 --> 00:12:59.710 Sheila Churchward: You know 219 00:13:00.050 --> 00:13:11.090 Sheila Churchward: we've got the one we've got. The last lace last one I did yesterday was 163 houses. There is all, all the last minute, all the last details for them. 220 00:13:11.730 --> 00:13:16.799 Sheila Churchward: and I would love to have put it on here, but I didn't know how 221 00:13:17.650 --> 00:13:22.530 Sheila Churchward: I just want. I just. And I looked, I thought, all I'm gonna do is make it a real clutter. 222 00:13:22.730 --> 00:13:27.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If if you are, you only going to keep the details for each of the 163 houses. 223 00:13:27.730 --> 00:13:31.059 Sheila Churchward: No, no, no, I was going to. It was a parcel. 224 00:13:31.780 --> 00:13:35.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you could do that in this planning app that you've got open. Now. 225 00:13:35.350 --> 00:13:40.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you could just do the outline of where those 163 houses are going to go. 226 00:13:40.190 --> 00:13:40.830 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 227 00:13:41.170 --> 00:13:44.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think that's really what they intended this layer for. 228 00:13:44.630 --> 00:13:46.150 Sheila Churchward: Yes, because it's 229 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:49.410 Sheila Churchward: there's just so much happening. You know we've got. 230 00:13:49.740 --> 00:13:53.419 Sheila Churchward: We've got that those 2,000 231 00:13:53.710 --> 00:13:59.409 Sheila Churchward: 2,000 houses in this area all around it. And the in I'm trying. What I want to do is 232 00:13:59.520 --> 00:14:02.089 Sheila Churchward: this, can you see that blue stream? There. 233 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:03.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go. 234 00:14:03.270 --> 00:14:09.589 Sheila Churchward: There that that stream is badly affected by all the, all the housing. 235 00:14:10.560 --> 00:14:20.790 Sheila Churchward: And it. It comes all the way down to the marsh, because Xminster is mainly marsh. A 3rd of Xminster is marshland. This is all marshland. 236 00:14:20.820 --> 00:14:23.309 Sheila Churchward: and there's the river X. Yep. 237 00:14:23.380 --> 00:14:26.700 Sheila Churchward: and all that rubbish from the estates 238 00:14:26.830 --> 00:14:29.020 Sheila Churchward: is going into the river X. 239 00:14:30.690 --> 00:14:33.470 Sheila Churchward: All of it. There's there's so much 240 00:14:33.500 --> 00:14:35.290 Sheila Churchward: rubbish going into. 241 00:14:35.290 --> 00:14:35.900 Andrew Clegg: Hmm. 242 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:40.920 Sheila Churchward: And I just want we've got this environmental 243 00:14:41.380 --> 00:14:45.400 Sheila Churchward: policy at the moment, and we're we're going to try and 244 00:14:46.730 --> 00:14:51.360 Sheila Churchward: save or sustain. Keep the marshes sustainable. 245 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:51.860 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 246 00:14:52.390 --> 00:14:53.449 Sheila Churchward: And it's 247 00:14:53.620 --> 00:14:59.920 Sheila Churchward: it's all here. All this. All this housing here is causing the problem. 248 00:15:00.280 --> 00:15:14.910 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, Sheila, can I? Can I interrupt a moment? Can I ask you a question? Is the marshland around there which I I've passed over it many times. I was there the other day. Is it an SSI? Yes, I just. 249 00:15:14.910 --> 00:15:18.380 Sheila Churchward: It's a not only that, it's a protected area. 250 00:15:18.700 --> 00:15:23.071 Sheila Churchward: is it? Yeah, it's protected because 251 00:15:23.800 --> 00:15:25.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Probably Ramsar as well, isn't it? 252 00:15:25.920 --> 00:15:28.130 Sheila Churchward: Yes, it it's a Ramsar. 253 00:15:28.130 --> 00:15:29.080 Andrew Clegg: Terramsa. 254 00:15:29.300 --> 00:15:29.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. Yeah. 255 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:31.340 Sheila Churchward: So she. 256 00:15:31.340 --> 00:15:34.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go to the left hand side and close that column. 257 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:36.760 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. Good. 258 00:15:36.760 --> 00:15:41.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go up to the we'll go up to the magnifying glass at the top. 259 00:15:41.350 --> 00:15:45.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, just click on. No, not that one. The one to the right, a little bit to the right. 260 00:15:45.550 --> 00:15:45.990 Sheila Churchward: This one. 261 00:15:45.990 --> 00:15:49.039 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that one just click on that and type in Ramzar. 262 00:15:51.190 --> 00:15:55.089 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. So open up the natural England collection. 263 00:15:56.930 --> 00:15:59.350 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? And just clear. Exactly. 264 00:15:59.390 --> 00:16:00.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go! 265 00:16:00.430 --> 00:16:02.290 Andrew Clegg: Oh, my goodness! 266 00:16:02.450 --> 00:16:06.959 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you're saying they're polluting all of that with the runoff from the public sites. 267 00:16:07.210 --> 00:16:09.464 Sheila Churchward: Yes, and not only that. We've 268 00:16:10.730 --> 00:16:12.090 Sheila Churchward: just here 269 00:16:12.380 --> 00:16:17.009 Sheila Churchward: this they're going to put in here a dump for all building waste 270 00:16:17.860 --> 00:16:20.350 Sheila Churchward: in that area there. And 271 00:16:20.420 --> 00:16:27.540 Sheila Churchward: or it. Actually, this is the foundation for a straight, this little stream here. 272 00:16:27.780 --> 00:16:34.929 Sheila Churchward: that goes all the way through the village and out in and that becomes the major stream through the. 273 00:16:34.930 --> 00:16:36.669 Andrew Clegg: All the ramps outside. Gosh. 274 00:16:36.670 --> 00:16:38.850 Sheila Churchward: It goes into the ramazar site. 275 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.440 Sheila Churchward: and that is going to be. You know, we are 276 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.380 Sheila Churchward: trying our hardest 277 00:16:45.780 --> 00:16:55.719 Sheila Churchward: to reduce or to try to get it, can't, you know, refuse? But they won't. The Government and Devon County Council want this dump here, and 278 00:16:55.880 --> 00:16:59.650 Sheila Churchward: because mainly just just here, we've got another one. 279 00:17:00.190 --> 00:17:03.509 Sheila Churchward: and that is closing in 2030. 280 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.810 Sheila Churchward: So the one to build this other one here. 281 00:17:07.560 --> 00:17:13.640 Sheila Churchward: and that will feed down into the stream. Or they said, they got all these precautions. 282 00:17:14.589 --> 00:17:15.359 Sheila Churchward: But 283 00:17:15.660 --> 00:17:20.860 Sheila Churchward: yeah, but I just like, I just like for posterity something 284 00:17:20.910 --> 00:17:22.979 Sheila Churchward: available to say, look 285 00:17:23.349 --> 00:17:32.369 Sheila Churchward: what was happening now this year, the last 2 years what we've been doing over the last 2 years to protect all that area. 286 00:17:33.460 --> 00:17:43.440 Andrew Clegg: There must. Sorry. There must be a comment from natural England, as this is a Ramsar site, because they and they natural England now must approve 287 00:17:44.069 --> 00:17:51.459 Andrew Clegg: the the sewage, the sewage disposal from anything that that is in the catchment area of a Ramsar site. 288 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:52.570 Sheila Churchward: It's. 289 00:17:52.910 --> 00:17:54.400 Sheila Churchward: Sewage. 290 00:17:54.560 --> 00:17:59.640 Sheila Churchward: It's it's run off from the motorway or. 291 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:04.559 Andrew Clegg: But now it's going to be sewage from far from from the houses that you're going to. 292 00:18:04.560 --> 00:18:10.530 Sheila Churchward: No, it's not sewage. They're going. They're putting in sisters, but they're still all the runoff 293 00:18:11.150 --> 00:18:13.460 Sheila Churchward: that is coming off the. 294 00:18:13.460 --> 00:18:14.690 Andrew Clegg: Off the motorway. 295 00:18:14.690 --> 00:18:21.769 Sheila Churchward: The motorway off the all the hard surfaces is going into Matford Brook and into 296 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:31.839 Sheila Churchward: Burybrook, and they both lead into the Ramsar site and natural England are accepting it because they they keep getting payments. 297 00:18:31.970 --> 00:18:35.320 Sheila Churchward: They have payments to to compensate. 298 00:18:35.320 --> 00:18:41.559 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. But what is going to happen to the sewage from the new houses? Where is that going to go. 299 00:18:42.710 --> 00:18:53.379 Sheila Churchward: We haven't seen that yet. In the late we keep on. We've seen information from Devon Highways and Devon. 300 00:18:53.760 --> 00:18:54.860 Sheila Churchward: The environment. 301 00:18:55.370 --> 00:19:00.389 Sheila Churchward: And of course we're part of team bridge and team bridge. They are. 302 00:19:00.700 --> 00:19:02.530 Sheila Churchward: They are doing something. 303 00:19:02.790 --> 00:19:12.170 Sheila Churchward: But it's overwhelming. Our sewage is all part of Exeter, and it's overwhelming the Exeter availability. 304 00:19:12.870 --> 00:19:13.340 Sheila Churchward: So. 305 00:19:13.340 --> 00:19:14.070 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, there is. 306 00:19:14.070 --> 00:19:16.280 Sheila Churchward: We do get sewage outflows. 307 00:19:16.280 --> 00:19:26.540 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. The reason why I'm asking about this is that there are currently about, I think, 18,000 houses held up in in and around Taunton 308 00:19:26.570 --> 00:19:29.680 Andrew Clegg: at the moment, because 309 00:19:29.950 --> 00:19:48.720 Andrew Clegg: each each house will produce a certain amount of phosphate, and that inevitably will, they say, flow down into the Somerset levels. Ramsar sites, and there are 7 sites down there. And so these houses are being held up 310 00:19:49.441 --> 00:20:15.520 Andrew Clegg: pending a solution to stopping this phosphate or offsetting this phosphate flowing down. Now you must be in the same position there, because certainly Poole harbour. Ramsar site is in the same position, and the the Ramsar on on the on the site flowing down through Salisbury is in the same position, so there must be some agreement with natural England 311 00:20:15.520 --> 00:20:25.420 Andrew Clegg: that either removes or offsets the phosphate from all the new houses there, and I'm just wondering whether you you know about that. 312 00:20:25.420 --> 00:20:25.790 Sheila Churchward: They don't. 313 00:20:25.790 --> 00:20:26.420 Andrew Clegg: The. 314 00:20:26.760 --> 00:20:28.950 Sheila Churchward: I don't. Actually, I just yeah. 315 00:20:29.430 --> 00:20:33.640 Sheila Churchward: I am. I am sort of. I've got superficial knowledge of. 316 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:34.720 Andrew Clegg: Okay. 317 00:20:34.910 --> 00:20:43.089 Sheila Churchward: I don't but I am bothered about the Ramsaur site. Yeah, this is our marsh here, and that. 318 00:20:43.090 --> 00:20:44.530 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah. 319 00:20:44.530 --> 00:20:46.682 Sheila Churchward: It floods every year. 320 00:20:47.220 --> 00:20:47.980 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 321 00:20:47.980 --> 00:20:50.030 Sheila Churchward: But this is the accessuary. 322 00:20:50.180 --> 00:20:54.329 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, with the amount of birds that's in there. 323 00:20:54.330 --> 00:20:56.259 Andrew Clegg: That's wonderful. I know. Yeah. 324 00:20:56.260 --> 00:20:56.730 Sheila Churchward: Lovely. 325 00:20:56.730 --> 00:21:07.629 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Yeah. But what happened was that there was this a Supreme Supreme Court decision. About Ramsar sites about 2,018 326 00:21:08.150 --> 00:21:15.560 Andrew Clegg: in which the country was taken to task by the United Nations for not looking after our Ramsar sites properly. 327 00:21:15.660 --> 00:21:30.029 Andrew Clegg: and the the Supreme Court decision has now spread to almost all the Ramsar sites in the country, and if you want to build a house in a catchment area of a Ramsar site, you have to show that you are not. 328 00:21:30.030 --> 00:21:57.469 Andrew Clegg: There's no net increase of phosphate from your building going into that site. Now, every time you flush the toilet you're flushing phosphate down, and most sewage works do not remove most of that phosphate. So there must be some major agreement between your planning authority and natural England about this. If anything is going to go ahead at all, because in Somerset it's just stuck now. Nobody knows what to do about it. 329 00:21:58.170 --> 00:22:00.899 Sheila Churchward: Well, we are classed as minor. 330 00:22:01.380 --> 00:22:03.880 Sheila Churchward: the the infamous, the the 331 00:22:04.150 --> 00:22:08.890 Sheila Churchward: the flow from Matford Brook and Berrybrook are classed as minor. 332 00:22:09.360 --> 00:22:25.796 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, it doesn't really matter about that. It's just the fact fact that new houses produce phosphate. Not very much, but they're not they. They they produce it, and so they can't be built unless that new phosph, that phosphate is off offset somehow. 333 00:22:26.230 --> 00:22:27.300 Andrew Clegg: by. 334 00:22:27.300 --> 00:22:28.150 Sheila Churchward: Like the. 335 00:22:28.150 --> 00:22:32.209 Andrew Clegg: You know, constructed wetlands somewhere else in the catchment. 336 00:22:33.560 --> 00:22:34.030 Sheila Churchward: Hmm. 337 00:22:34.030 --> 00:22:40.900 Andrew Clegg: I I think there's a big story here that may be worth following up. Finding out what is happening there. 338 00:22:42.010 --> 00:22:42.810 Sheila Churchward: Right. 339 00:22:43.040 --> 00:22:46.490 Stuart Withington: I I thought the rules on the phosphate had been 340 00:22:46.740 --> 00:22:48.700 Stuart Withington: changed last year. 341 00:22:50.530 --> 00:22:56.469 Andrew Clegg: It it. It depends on where you are in the country. 342 00:22:57.535 --> 00:22:58.180 Andrew Clegg: But 343 00:22:58.280 --> 00:23:00.410 Andrew Clegg: the basic rule. 344 00:23:02.030 --> 00:23:08.629 Andrew Clegg: remains the same, I think, and that is that you're not allowed to increase the flow of phosphate from 345 00:23:08.830 --> 00:23:10.140 Andrew Clegg: new houses. 346 00:23:10.660 --> 00:23:11.170 Andrew Clegg: Yes. 347 00:23:11.170 --> 00:23:11.570 Stuart Withington: Yeah. 348 00:23:11.570 --> 00:23:12.719 Andrew Clegg: Somehow I've seen that. 349 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:16.519 Stuart Withington: That have been relaxed so that building work could go ahead. 350 00:23:16.520 --> 00:23:28.129 Andrew Clegg: It's been relaxed in certain areas where they've shown that the water companies or the sewage companies or somebody else can in some way offset the phosphate. 351 00:23:28.360 --> 00:23:32.049 Andrew Clegg: Now it's working. It's working in places like Pool Harbour. 352 00:23:32.410 --> 00:23:40.130 Andrew Clegg: or it seems to be working, and it seems to be working in in Wiltshire, and and there there, but in Somerset it's not yet. 353 00:23:41.280 --> 00:23:42.679 Andrew Clegg: It's a big issue. 354 00:23:43.510 --> 00:23:48.570 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, I think it's because we got so much much building going on around. 355 00:23:48.570 --> 00:23:49.350 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 356 00:23:49.350 --> 00:23:52.350 Sheila Churchward: If you've been here, you know, you know. 357 00:23:52.350 --> 00:23:53.899 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. It's huge, isn't it? 358 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:54.810 Sheila Churchward: Yes. 359 00:23:54.810 --> 00:23:55.190 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 360 00:23:55.190 --> 00:23:59.429 Sheila Churchward: And going to build another another small town 361 00:23:59.770 --> 00:24:00.540 Sheila Churchward: just 362 00:24:00.850 --> 00:24:01.760 Sheila Churchward: here. 363 00:24:02.290 --> 00:24:10.879 Sheila Churchward: just here. There's going to be another small town, Mary Development. Of course, that will go into the river, clist. 364 00:24:11.090 --> 00:24:11.820 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 365 00:24:12.050 --> 00:24:14.849 Andrew Clegg: And that goes straight down into the site right down. 366 00:24:15.470 --> 00:24:20.679 Sheila Churchward: Because all this area is marsh. Yeah, there's a lot of Rspb there. 367 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:31.760 Sheila Churchward: But no, it's just there's so much going on. And I want. I wanted a simple way of recording it 368 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:51.589 Sheila Churchward: so that all posterity to show, because, you know, in the future people are gonna come to the Parish Council and moan at us for not doing more. And I think well, if I do a record of what we've been doing, you know, and they can go back and look. You know, it can be proven that we we knew about this, and we've been trying. 369 00:24:51.590 --> 00:25:01.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, Sheila, I think that to to show the areas of the new planning developments, your planning layer that you're already using would be good to cover those. 370 00:25:02.110 --> 00:25:02.510 Stuart Withington: Needs. 371 00:25:02.510 --> 00:25:04.445 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Catch, create a new 372 00:25:04.980 --> 00:25:11.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: polygon layer for you know, to to be able to cover the whole area in in one big 373 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: fell swoop, and then I'll send you the details of the 374 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: planning applications layer that we use. 375 00:25:18.450 --> 00:25:19.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, thank you. 376 00:25:19.030 --> 00:25:19.990 Sheila Churchward: You that'd be lovely. 377 00:25:20.370 --> 00:25:21.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You see fit. 378 00:25:21.530 --> 00:25:31.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So let me ask if anyone else has a question. Princeton in particular. I'm looking to see if you have anything you want to look at, and maybe even stop sharing your screen, please, Sheila. 379 00:25:31.340 --> 00:25:33.910 Sheila Churchward: I will do just trying to like 380 00:25:34.170 --> 00:25:36.089 Sheila Churchward: my thing back 381 00:25:36.530 --> 00:25:37.509 Sheila Churchward: there. It is. 382 00:25:38.792 --> 00:25:39.919 Prinson Thomas: So far, so good. 383 00:25:40.470 --> 00:25:41.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're all right. 384 00:25:41.610 --> 00:25:42.760 Prinson Thomas: Yeah, so far. So good. 385 00:25:42.760 --> 00:25:44.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No questions, oh dear! 386 00:25:45.090 --> 00:25:45.530 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 387 00:25:45.860 --> 00:25:48.079 Prinson Thomas: I will have questions later on. Yeah, at the end. 388 00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:48.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right. 389 00:25:49.060 --> 00:25:49.540 Prinson Thomas: But. 390 00:25:49.540 --> 00:25:53.799 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I do have a a question that was email. Let me just say no one else has got a question. 391 00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:56.250 Stuart Withington: I have. 392 00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:57.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Okay, roughly good. Then. 393 00:25:57.740 --> 00:26:01.940 Stuart Withington: I was very interested to see your planning layer 394 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:06.600 Stuart Withington: opening up the district's planning portal. 395 00:26:06.600 --> 00:26:07.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup! 396 00:26:08.504 --> 00:26:10.319 Stuart Withington: Could I do that? 397 00:26:10.340 --> 00:26:16.223 Stuart Withington: The the portal looked exactly the same as ours. So presume it's the same bit of software. Yeah. 398 00:26:17.090 --> 00:26:18.450 Stuart Withington: could. Could I 399 00:26:18.690 --> 00:26:21.970 Stuart Withington: put a link into my parish online 400 00:26:21.990 --> 00:26:25.149 Stuart Withington: to open up Applesford's planning portal? 401 00:26:25.310 --> 00:26:25.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 402 00:26:26.510 --> 00:26:29.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you'd like to share, you've got parish online running, Stuart. 403 00:26:30.118 --> 00:26:31.660 Stuart Withington: No, but I can do. 404 00:26:32.130 --> 00:26:32.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if. 405 00:26:33.520 --> 00:26:36.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Your screen when you're ready, and we'll walk through you. How you have to do it. 406 00:26:36.500 --> 00:26:38.670 Stuart Withington: Yeah. Talk amongst yourselves. 407 00:26:42.550 --> 00:26:48.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I I have got a question in from somebody who wanted to know whether Dorset. 408 00:26:49.030 --> 00:26:50.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: as a unitary 409 00:26:51.763 --> 00:26:58.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: exports its footpaths, its public rights of way, and I couldn't find anywhere that suggested they did. 410 00:26:59.110 --> 00:27:03.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Does anyone happen to know anybody in Dorset, and whether they have their footpaths there? 411 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:10.016 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If not, then I'll I'll later, when we finish with Stuart's question, we'll go through 412 00:27:10.410 --> 00:27:20.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: how you inform geosphere that you need the data that Dorset Dorset publishes its recreational footpaths to explore Dorset. 413 00:27:21.020 --> 00:27:25.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and if they stuck it there, then they should be able to get into parish online without any trouble. 414 00:27:25.650 --> 00:27:28.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I thought of for the benefit of the recording, so that 415 00:27:29.070 --> 00:27:33.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: will from Dorset can check it later. We'll just go through that routine. 416 00:27:34.350 --> 00:27:37.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, Stuart, you have the look of a man who's all set. 417 00:27:41.695 --> 00:27:42.710 Stuart Withington: Nearly. 418 00:27:43.060 --> 00:27:43.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 419 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:53.700 Stuart Withington: That working. 420 00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:55.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's on its way. Yup, it's good. 421 00:27:56.926 --> 00:27:59.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You seem not to have 422 00:27:59.430 --> 00:28:00.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: anything on the left. 423 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:05.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: do you have? Are you not centered on the screen or. 424 00:28:05.420 --> 00:28:07.399 Stuart Withington: I'm centered on Dunmo. 425 00:28:07.570 --> 00:28:09.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Can you do? I just. 426 00:28:10.990 --> 00:28:11.490 Stuart Withington: There we go! 427 00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:15.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's no left. There we go. That's what we're looking for. Yes, good. Thank you. 428 00:28:15.990 --> 00:28:19.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So do you have a planning layer? At the moment Stuart. 429 00:28:23.070 --> 00:28:23.770 Sheila Churchward: No. 430 00:28:23.770 --> 00:28:24.390 Stuart Withington: No. 431 00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:26.295 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not really no. 432 00:28:27.980 --> 00:28:35.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: okay. So I I think, really, the thing to do then is just to is create a new layer for you. 433 00:28:35.470 --> 00:28:44.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then we'll go through and show you how to link up to your portal. So could you just go up to create on the top line 434 00:28:45.800 --> 00:28:48.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: top, very top line of your browser. 435 00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:50.809 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Big one. Yeah, there you go 436 00:28:51.110 --> 00:28:52.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and add for a new layer. 437 00:28:55.950 --> 00:29:03.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then just call it planning, and you can, if you want to do it for this year, call it planning 2024. But it doesn't matter. Just call it planning for the moment. 438 00:29:05.190 --> 00:29:05.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 439 00:29:07.410 --> 00:29:09.268 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and it's going to be 440 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I would go for points if I were you. It's much quicker, much easier. 441 00:29:13.360 --> 00:29:14.020 Stuart Withington: Right. 442 00:29:15.173 --> 00:29:18.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then just say planning applications in the 443 00:29:20.290 --> 00:29:21.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: in your parish. 444 00:29:29.100 --> 00:29:29.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 445 00:29:30.280 --> 00:29:33.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you need to add, with the plus sign. 446 00:29:33.760 --> 00:29:34.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: at least. 447 00:29:34.860 --> 00:29:39.999 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I I'd go for 3 or 4 columns, so just hit it 3 times or 4 times. 448 00:29:42.230 --> 00:29:47.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and now go to the name on the top one and change it to application number 449 00:29:49.220 --> 00:29:52.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: to just oh, yeah, you need to delete the name word. 450 00:29:56.510 --> 00:29:57.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 451 00:29:57.490 --> 00:29:58.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So 452 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:00.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: get rid of the name. There you go. 453 00:30:01.030 --> 00:30:03.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just delete it backspace. Yeah. 454 00:30:03.939 --> 00:30:07.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then the one down below you might call date. For instance. 455 00:30:16.040 --> 00:30:20.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: if you move to the middle of that column, you can change the text field to a date field. 456 00:30:24.040 --> 00:30:32.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this next one we're going to call the Lpa link, which is the local planning authority link or Oxford link. If you want to put that 457 00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:48.959 Graham Stoddart-Stones: perfect, and that's just as it is. That's fine. So just you can come back and add new ones later. But just for the sake of today. Let's click on finish. 458 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: finish finish, or you go now. And you put in. 459 00:30:54.760 --> 00:30:55.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: okay. 460 00:31:00.410 --> 00:31:04.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, I'm sorry I wasn't being very clear, Stuart. There's a big green button down to the right. 461 00:31:04.860 --> 00:31:06.070 Stuart Withington: Oh, sorry! 462 00:31:06.070 --> 00:31:07.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's right. 463 00:31:11.580 --> 00:31:18.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright. So if we now go up to your cogwheel in the top right the administration. 464 00:31:18.270 --> 00:31:22.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so click on the cog wheel and you'll get a little down when you go into administration 465 00:31:26.340 --> 00:31:30.729 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and just wait for the layers to go. So if you go down to planning 24. 466 00:31:30.730 --> 00:31:31.350 Stuart Withington: Yeah. 467 00:31:31.350 --> 00:31:33.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just highlight it once by clicking on it. 468 00:31:35.010 --> 00:31:42.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now move up to the right hand column. You've got 2 tabs, one called general, and one called columns, and you want to click on the columns one. 469 00:31:45.500 --> 00:31:48.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and there are your columns. So 470 00:31:48.430 --> 00:31:53.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: just out of interest, you might want to make the application number a required field, so that 471 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it always requires you to put in the application number. 472 00:31:57.150 --> 00:32:07.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then the Lpa link. You want it to be a link field. So you need to put a check mark down on the right bottom. Right? Yes, and then click on the 3 horizontal dots 473 00:32:08.500 --> 00:32:10.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and just click. Confirm. 474 00:32:10.950 --> 00:32:15.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's all you're doing is just making sure that it's gonna do the the there you go. 475 00:32:15.350 --> 00:32:20.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now, if you click on, save the yellow square, the top right? 476 00:32:23.790 --> 00:32:25.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And yes, you do on save. 477 00:32:26.540 --> 00:32:31.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then that will change to the global maps. If you go back to global maps. 478 00:32:31.780 --> 00:32:34.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's the globe in the middle at the top. Right 479 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: alright. So if we go into the parish layers now. 480 00:32:46.810 --> 00:32:49.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you go down to planning and turn it on. 481 00:32:50.120 --> 00:32:53.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then yes, go into there and add a feature. 482 00:32:54.380 --> 00:32:56.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you happen to have any details of. 483 00:32:57.040 --> 00:32:59.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and a planning application to hand. 484 00:33:01.371 --> 00:33:03.140 Stuart Withington: Not off the top of my head. No. 485 00:33:03.340 --> 00:33:04.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? Well. 486 00:33:06.231 --> 00:33:11.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: when you add a new feature. In fact, let's do that now, or just create one out of mystery. 487 00:33:13.940 --> 00:33:16.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on the add feature, yeah. 488 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:21.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and just stick in a number like 2, 4, slash 0, 0, 1, 2, 3. 489 00:33:24.320 --> 00:33:25.220 Sheila Churchward: Moved. 490 00:33:27.190 --> 00:33:28.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that's fine. 491 00:33:28.918 --> 00:33:30.959 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then the Lpa link 492 00:33:31.660 --> 00:33:33.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you click on that. 493 00:33:34.460 --> 00:33:41.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you would now put in the URL of the appropriate link in your in your portal. 494 00:33:42.270 --> 00:33:47.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go to the onsuit portal and and call up the planning application you're interested in. 495 00:33:48.170 --> 00:33:48.810 Stuart Withington: Yeah. 496 00:33:49.120 --> 00:33:49.460 Sheila Churchward: Terms. 497 00:33:49.460 --> 00:33:52.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Take the URL of that page and plug it in here. 498 00:33:52.400 --> 00:34:02.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then everybody who's looking at your parish online will be able to go straight to that portal for that particular application, and they'll see all the documents, all the text, all the arguments 499 00:34:02.370 --> 00:34:03.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: about it. 500 00:34:04.150 --> 00:34:04.860 Sheila Churchward: Brilliant. 501 00:34:05.170 --> 00:34:07.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's oh, it's it's hugely useful. 502 00:34:07.860 --> 00:34:08.719 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 503 00:34:10.860 --> 00:34:24.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So. When I suggested, Stuart, that you make this a point layer that means for every planning application. You just click once on the house that's going to be done, which has the advantage of being very, very tidy when you look at it. 504 00:34:24.940 --> 00:34:28.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It has a slight disadvantage that you don't actually see 505 00:34:29.295 --> 00:34:36.789 Graham Stoddart-Stones: where the change is being made. So if they want to put a new garage in, or a new garden shed or something 506 00:34:37.275 --> 00:34:44.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the point doesn't show that whereas a Polygon might do. But the Polygon doesn't come up so well on 507 00:34:44.820 --> 00:34:51.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: planning applications. Sorry on the public map. If you have ever started publishing this on your local village website. 508 00:34:51.780 --> 00:34:52.650 Stuart Withington: Okay. 509 00:34:54.550 --> 00:34:58.959 Sheila Churchward: So where you put the point is where the planning application refers to. 510 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:09.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. Yes, it's usually a good idea to zoom in to pick out the actual house that's involved. So if Stuart's going to invent a house. Now, Yup, just 511 00:35:10.020 --> 00:35:11.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: zoom in as far as you like. 512 00:35:14.930 --> 00:35:19.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, so just you can pick one of those houses and say, that's what's going to be this one. 513 00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:20.600 Sheila Churchward: Hmm. 514 00:35:20.600 --> 00:35:21.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sake of argument. 515 00:35:22.630 --> 00:35:23.970 Stuart Withington: But click on my ass. 516 00:35:24.170 --> 00:35:25.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, there you go. 517 00:35:25.910 --> 00:35:26.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, 518 00:35:28.180 --> 00:35:30.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then if you just save, you're done. 519 00:35:33.100 --> 00:35:34.200 Sheila Churchward: That's brilliant. 520 00:35:34.410 --> 00:35:35.490 Sheila Churchward: I like that. 521 00:35:36.390 --> 00:35:36.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 522 00:35:36.890 --> 00:35:41.920 Sheila Churchward: So is that I could use that feature for all my major applications without 523 00:35:41.990 --> 00:35:45.869 Sheila Churchward: actually interfering with my planning layer. 524 00:35:45.870 --> 00:35:47.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. Yes. 525 00:35:48.450 --> 00:35:49.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you 526 00:35:50.030 --> 00:36:04.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart. The system automatically assumes that you want to put in more than one feature at a time. It thinks that you're a very busy parish clerk, and you're going to do 16 applications all at once. So the left hand column is now a blank record for your next one. 527 00:36:04.390 --> 00:36:11.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that's why the cursor has got that blue dot on it. If you just click on the X at the top of the column because you aren't going to add another one. 528 00:36:11.710 --> 00:36:14.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then your cursor will return to normal. 529 00:36:14.790 --> 00:36:16.500 Sheila Churchward: Thank you. That was brilliant. 530 00:36:16.500 --> 00:36:19.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you if you now click on the red dot. 531 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: then it would just bring up the record for you. 532 00:36:23.730 --> 00:36:26.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can go into planning 24. 533 00:36:26.580 --> 00:36:27.320 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 534 00:36:27.710 --> 00:36:39.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, for instance, just in your case, if you click on the pencil at the top to show you want to edit it, Stuart. And now you can change the date from to today's date. For instance, just click in there. 535 00:36:41.940 --> 00:36:49.879 Sheila Churchward: Wonder which date you put in the date. You actually did the application or the date of you know, when you're like. 536 00:36:50.110 --> 00:36:58.171 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, when you see the the example I'm going to send you, Sheila, you'll see that I have 2 dates. I or 3 dates actually have the date that 537 00:36:58.790 --> 00:37:07.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the local planning authority validated the application. In the 1st place, then, I put the date that the Parish Council considered it. 538 00:37:07.160 --> 00:37:07.780 Sheila Churchward: Does it? 539 00:37:07.780 --> 00:37:12.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then I put the final date when the Lpa comes up with a decision. Yeah. 540 00:37:12.260 --> 00:37:12.830 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 541 00:37:12.980 --> 00:37:18.350 Sheila Churchward: as I want. Seen that I would actually like to put a link to the decision. Because that is. 542 00:37:18.560 --> 00:37:20.979 Sheila Churchward: you know, that's what it's all about, isn't it? 543 00:37:21.500 --> 00:37:23.689 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or to your decision, or to the Lpa. 544 00:37:23.690 --> 00:37:25.710 Sheila Churchward: Their decision, their decision. 545 00:37:25.710 --> 00:37:30.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. So well again, when you get my example you'll see that I do that. 546 00:37:31.140 --> 00:37:32.930 Sheila Churchward: That's brilliant, thank you. 547 00:37:33.971 --> 00:37:36.379 Sheila Churchward: You know I was struggling. 548 00:37:36.830 --> 00:37:37.860 Sheila Churchward: struggling. 549 00:37:37.860 --> 00:37:40.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think that's that's why we hold these sessions, isn't it? So that 550 00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:44.209 Graham Stoddart-Stones: we can all see if we can help out. 551 00:37:44.210 --> 00:37:47.920 Sheila Churchward: Gets you get so complicated, don't you? When you struggle. 552 00:37:48.770 --> 00:37:49.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 553 00:37:51.880 --> 00:38:01.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I was talking to some lovely lady the other day. Who's saying I know that parish online can save me lots of trouble, but I cannot find the time to do the learning curve. 554 00:38:02.210 --> 00:38:02.530 Sheila Churchward: Yes. 555 00:38:02.530 --> 00:38:08.839 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's the real problem. You know. You need a couple of hours to get the hang of it, and you just cannot get those couple of hours. 556 00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:09.540 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 557 00:38:09.540 --> 00:38:11.850 Andrew Clegg: I think, more than a couple of hours. Graham. 558 00:38:11.850 --> 00:38:12.774 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 559 00:38:13.700 --> 00:38:16.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I was just crediting Sheila with. 560 00:38:16.080 --> 00:38:20.090 Andrew Clegg: About a couple of years. 561 00:38:20.090 --> 00:38:21.260 Sheila Churchward: Mind, no. 562 00:38:21.260 --> 00:38:26.599 Helen Davey: Why I I come on here. I don't have a question, because I don't know what the question is. 563 00:38:26.600 --> 00:38:29.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know. I know that's very smart. 564 00:38:29.210 --> 00:38:30.990 Helen Davey: And then I'll learn so much. 565 00:38:30.990 --> 00:38:32.199 Sheila Churchward: I do, too. 566 00:38:32.200 --> 00:38:32.880 Helen Davey: Yeah. 567 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:38.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, Princeton, are you ready, or are you gonna want a few more minutes yet? 568 00:38:39.680 --> 00:38:41.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're on mute, though. 569 00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:43.029 Prinson Thomas: Yeah, yeah. I'm ready for that. Yeah. 570 00:38:43.030 --> 00:38:43.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're ready. 571 00:38:43.590 --> 00:38:46.770 Prinson Thomas: Learning whatever questions you guys are trying to. 572 00:38:46.770 --> 00:38:54.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, let me go ahead and then deal with this question from Will in Dorset. So his question was, how do I add? 573 00:38:55.550 --> 00:38:58.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Put paths to my map. 574 00:38:58.540 --> 00:39:04.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I said that you could do it yourself in a parish lair that really is. 575 00:39:05.020 --> 00:39:06.009 Sheila Churchward: Long way round. 576 00:39:06.010 --> 00:39:15.909 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're a real masochist, because putting in a football is really hard work, and it's completely unnecessary, because the work's already been done for you up at the county level. 577 00:39:16.470 --> 00:39:17.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So then. 578 00:39:17.994 --> 00:39:29.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: we went. I went in to look for any evidence that Dorset is exporting data from their footpath letter, and I went into. Let me share this screen again. 579 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if we get rid of the slot and just say 580 00:39:48.210 --> 00:39:50.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I went in to explore. 581 00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:54.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: hear me. 582 00:39:55.540 --> 00:39:56.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: docs it. 583 00:40:00.200 --> 00:40:02.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it came up with this. 584 00:40:03.590 --> 00:40:06.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I get rid of your pictures again. 585 00:40:07.180 --> 00:40:16.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We had layers, which again this is in the way sorry. So here we have a choice of layers. So I turned that on. 586 00:40:16.250 --> 00:40:20.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they had nothing on footpaths. But they did have recreation trails. 587 00:40:20.810 --> 00:40:26.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then you have to pick out whichever one you want. So if you're fascinated about this horse riding route, you can click on it. 588 00:40:27.110 --> 00:40:29.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and it comes up on the map somewhere. 589 00:40:29.950 --> 00:40:32.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, here it is, this one here in the corner. 590 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:36.029 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So clearly they do export some data. 591 00:40:37.590 --> 00:40:43.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then I referred will or I'm doing this now for will say that you can take a copy 592 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:45.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: of this. Yeah. URL, 593 00:40:47.020 --> 00:40:48.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which I've just done. 594 00:40:48.630 --> 00:40:52.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you now go into parish online 595 00:40:57.210 --> 00:41:04.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and into the knowledge base, which is up in the top right corner under help and support. 596 00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So we go top right corner, help and support. 597 00:41:08.220 --> 00:41:12.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then there's a layer here, or a question called council data. 598 00:41:16.664 --> 00:41:19.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And this is a request for council data. 599 00:41:20.210 --> 00:41:23.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and there's a step-by-step path to be filled. 600 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:32.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: To help geosphere get the solution you're looking for. So the thing the 1st thing they say is search for open data, which is what we've done. 601 00:41:33.233 --> 00:41:38.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you can go to there to see what data the Council's published. But they they do 602 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: this, will, they say. 603 00:41:43.160 --> 00:41:45.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: search for the Council's website. 604 00:41:46.510 --> 00:41:50.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then we're just gonna fit in the form. Where am I going to do. 605 00:41:54.880 --> 00:42:00.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think, rather than bore you, Lot. I think if you work your way through this 606 00:42:01.120 --> 00:42:01.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: page. 607 00:42:02.180 --> 00:42:04.539 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What they ask you to do is to put 608 00:42:04.740 --> 00:42:07.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: an example of the 609 00:42:08.393 --> 00:42:11.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: page that you're looking at the open data 610 00:42:12.080 --> 00:42:13.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: into this form. 611 00:42:13.730 --> 00:42:16.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then you send the form to parish online. 612 00:42:20.250 --> 00:42:22.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: let me do it right here. So 613 00:42:22.980 --> 00:42:29.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: we can just use an sorry. Let's create an email. Yeah. 614 00:42:30.040 --> 00:42:35.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: let's go back into my email system. So we can compose an email to support 615 00:42:35.890 --> 00:42:36.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: at 616 00:42:38.540 --> 00:42:39.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: geosphere. 617 00:42:40.540 --> 00:42:43.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you can say, open plan data. 618 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:48.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you can say. 619 00:42:48.770 --> 00:42:49.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Dorset. 620 00:42:50.470 --> 00:42:55.199 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it is publishing recreational 621 00:42:55.660 --> 00:42:56.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: trails. 622 00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:00.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 623 00:43:01.010 --> 00:43:03.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then we're just going to pack in the. 624 00:43:03.220 --> 00:43:07.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I need to move the photographs again. Sorry. So I can get the leak in. 625 00:43:08.260 --> 00:43:09.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and that's the link. 626 00:43:12.560 --> 00:43:13.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So 627 00:43:14.990 --> 00:43:17.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: please, would you. 628 00:43:19.770 --> 00:43:20.500 Sheila Churchward: Hmm. 629 00:43:21.370 --> 00:43:23.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Work with 630 00:43:24.790 --> 00:43:25.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones: bullshit. 631 00:43:26.220 --> 00:43:29.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it's worth saying that they are a unitary 632 00:43:30.070 --> 00:43:31.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: to get 633 00:43:31.550 --> 00:43:32.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: this. 634 00:43:33.110 --> 00:43:35.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then I would go on, say all other 635 00:43:36.250 --> 00:43:39.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: public right of way, information 636 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:44.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: into parish online. 637 00:43:45.310 --> 00:43:46.110 Sheila Churchward: Hmm. 638 00:43:47.080 --> 00:43:48.440 Andrew Clegg: Click send Graham. 639 00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:49.306 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It was. 640 00:43:56.940 --> 00:43:57.805 Sheila Churchward: Belovedly. 641 00:44:01.260 --> 00:44:03.966 Andrew Clegg: I know. 642 00:44:06.220 --> 00:44:07.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Send 643 00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.245 Graham Stoddart-Stones: groups, undo quickly. 644 00:44:12.523 --> 00:44:12.986 Andrew Clegg: Right. 645 00:44:13.650 --> 00:44:15.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But anyway, that's what 646 00:44:15.700 --> 00:44:18.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I was trying to do with the will was to show that 647 00:44:18.970 --> 00:44:24.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: as you give an example to parish online of data that the 648 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: County Council or the Unitary Council is already publishing. 649 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:33.011 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then they can go to them and say very, very quickly, 650 00:44:33.500 --> 00:44:37.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: give us this data, and we'll put it into parish online. And 651 00:44:37.350 --> 00:44:46.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: what I keep saying on here because it always amazes me is that it takes Simon Miles something like 32 and a half seconds 652 00:44:46.940 --> 00:44:48.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: to set this up 653 00:44:48.520 --> 00:45:02.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: alright. So that's what I'm saying to to Will in Dorset. You really, really, really don't want to start putting in footpaths yourself, because 32 seconds later you can have a whole blinking lot or hundreds of them. 654 00:45:04.248 --> 00:45:08.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Take it, everyone here is familiar with the footpaths map that you get in Paris online. 655 00:45:08.860 --> 00:45:09.400 Sheila Churchward: Yes. 656 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.959 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I'm not going to waste your time with that. But. 657 00:45:12.410 --> 00:45:29.939 Sheila Churchward: We've got a recreational path that we've actually designed for the village. Well, I didn't do it. It was done by the Green Spaces working party, and I'd like to put that on sometime. The chap who's running it he's he's asked has been asking me for ages. 658 00:45:30.180 --> 00:45:30.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, well. 659 00:45:30.910 --> 00:45:36.050 Sheila Churchward: And I said, I, I haven't got time. I just don't have the time. Sorry. 660 00:45:36.050 --> 00:45:37.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, so. 661 00:45:37.010 --> 00:45:37.780 Sheila Churchward: Like, just. 662 00:45:38.660 --> 00:45:55.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The the advice I always give to people when they're doing something fiddly, like a footpath is to you, create a line there in parish online. Then you sort of do as your feature, and I would just say, start at the beginning and draw virtually a straight line to the end 663 00:45:55.130 --> 00:45:56.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and save it. 664 00:45:56.560 --> 00:46:06.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then go back and edit it, and it's so much easier to start pulling and pushing it into the correct shape of the footpath. But if you try and do this. 665 00:46:06.020 --> 00:46:06.580 Sheila Churchward: Go away! 666 00:46:06.580 --> 00:46:17.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you're 1st putting it in. Yeah, I guarantee you you'll get 2 quarter, 2, 2 quarters of the way, and then you'll click something, and the whole lot will disappear. 667 00:46:17.060 --> 00:46:18.390 Andrew Clegg: 7 eighths of the way. 668 00:46:18.390 --> 00:46:20.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not intense. 669 00:46:20.080 --> 00:46:21.279 Andrew Clegg: No way. 670 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.949 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it's also always Murphy's law working against you. 671 00:46:24.950 --> 00:46:25.730 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 672 00:46:26.560 --> 00:46:27.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright. So 673 00:46:28.700 --> 00:46:32.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you've had 45 min to think, Prince, and now is your time to come. 674 00:46:32.675 --> 00:46:35.170 Andrew Clegg: Any questions that are bother me. 675 00:46:35.900 --> 00:46:39.730 Prinson Thomas: No, I'm right. I'm pinning on each and every points, actually, whatever. 676 00:46:39.730 --> 00:46:40.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Temperatures. 677 00:46:40.200 --> 00:46:42.679 Prinson Thomas: Numbers I told. Say this, there you go! 678 00:46:42.680 --> 00:46:43.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 679 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.570 Prinson Thomas: Yeah, I'm keeping you intact. Don't worry. 680 00:46:45.570 --> 00:46:50.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So could you remind us what it is that you'll be using parish online. For in Taunton. 681 00:46:51.713 --> 00:47:14.700 Prinson Thomas: So so far, they're not yet decided just to learn all the basics, because most of them have not yet done the parish online. So I am the 1st guy to start with. And one of the members have started. So I think so just for the basic concept, for the tree inventory everything to keep track on the trees as well. Yeah, for now I'm doing that thing. I just joined like 3, 3 weeks. Sorry 2 weeks back. 682 00:47:15.160 --> 00:47:16.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But there are other people. 683 00:47:16.220 --> 00:47:16.850 Prinson Thomas: Yeah. 684 00:47:16.850 --> 00:47:18.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In talking who are using it, you know. 685 00:47:18.640 --> 00:47:19.670 Prinson Thomas: Yeah. 686 00:47:19.670 --> 00:47:22.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And and some of them are actually getting quite talented. 687 00:47:23.890 --> 00:47:31.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and there's this one guy that we showed how to do everything one week, and the next weekend he came back, and he done everything completely. It was very fast. 688 00:47:31.240 --> 00:47:31.649 Andrew Clegg: You know. 689 00:47:31.650 --> 00:47:32.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Young man. 690 00:47:33.210 --> 00:47:37.990 Prinson Thomas: So one of the one of the Vincent's tests which I had done like last week with you. 691 00:47:38.110 --> 00:47:43.249 Prinson Thomas: Polygon one. So it was just a recap when you did the planning. 24. Now. 692 00:47:43.510 --> 00:47:43.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup! 693 00:47:44.248 --> 00:47:51.469 Prinson Thomas: For? Yeah, it does the thing which where you showed how to put the link as well. So it was much easier for me. Yeah. 694 00:47:51.470 --> 00:47:52.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 695 00:47:52.290 --> 00:47:53.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm glad it helped. 696 00:47:55.390 --> 00:47:56.870 chris edwards: You're a Graham. 697 00:47:56.870 --> 00:47:59.587 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Chris, you know what's coming. Yes. 698 00:48:00.040 --> 00:48:03.620 chris edwards: I've got a I've got a query which I need some help on. 699 00:48:03.640 --> 00:48:05.650 chris edwards: Can I share my screen? 700 00:48:05.650 --> 00:48:06.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Please, do. 701 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:07.760 chris edwards: Dear. 702 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.528 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I hope it's going to be a 15 min? Query Chris. 703 00:48:10.780 --> 00:48:12.810 chris edwards: No, not quite that long 704 00:48:12.930 --> 00:48:17.240 chris edwards: right, if I go into assets and maintenance. 705 00:48:18.300 --> 00:48:21.980 chris edwards: And, for instance, I go down to 706 00:48:22.520 --> 00:48:23.790 chris edwards: benches. 707 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.970 chris edwards: Here are the benches in our parish. 708 00:48:27.970 --> 00:48:28.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 709 00:48:29.256 --> 00:48:30.879 chris edwards: If I click on 710 00:48:31.210 --> 00:48:32.630 chris edwards: the cogwheel 711 00:48:32.820 --> 00:48:34.940 chris edwards: and go into table view. 712 00:48:35.640 --> 00:48:37.220 chris edwards: this will give me 713 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.270 chris edwards: all the benches in our parish. 714 00:48:40.550 --> 00:48:47.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No gives you. This is a collaborative layer, so it gives you all the benches that have been entered in across the country. 715 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.810 chris edwards: Yeah, but I can. I can single that down. 716 00:48:49.810 --> 00:48:51.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, yes, you can. You can filter out yours. Yes. 717 00:48:51.970 --> 00:48:54.999 chris edwards: Yeah, that's right. Now, if I go on to 718 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.330 chris edwards: street lights 719 00:49:01.090 --> 00:49:03.679 chris edwards: there are hundreds and 100. Well. 720 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.659 chris edwards: why aren't they coming up? 721 00:49:06.850 --> 00:49:09.590 chris edwards: Let me go. Let me go down to 722 00:49:11.790 --> 00:49:14.650 chris edwards: the County Council level. 723 00:49:15.730 --> 00:49:17.400 chris edwards: No, this one here. 724 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:18.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 725 00:49:20.050 --> 00:49:21.790 chris edwards: Did you see street lights. 726 00:49:22.100 --> 00:49:24.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, probably. 727 00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:29.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it under highway illuminated assets? That's. 728 00:49:29.890 --> 00:49:31.740 Sheila Churchward: Highways, highways. 729 00:49:31.740 --> 00:49:32.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Next one up. 730 00:49:32.390 --> 00:49:33.760 Sheila Churchward: 3 signs. 731 00:49:33.930 --> 00:49:36.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That one? I think, yeah, yeah. 732 00:49:36.458 --> 00:49:44.249 chris edwards: I know there are lots and lots, but if I click on the cog wheel I don't have the option for table view. 733 00:49:44.250 --> 00:49:45.230 Andrew Clegg: Now. 734 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:51.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So the the reason for that is is that this data has come from the unitary. 735 00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:58.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and what they haven't realised is that when they export the data they've got to select. 736 00:49:58.500 --> 00:50:01.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Pay review is one of the choices, and they haven't selected it. 737 00:50:01.980 --> 00:50:06.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So it depends, of course, from which of their 738 00:50:07.190 --> 00:50:13.004 Graham Stoddart-Stones: databases. This came your if you're Ansford, you should have got the stuff from 739 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:17.909 Graham Stoddart-Stones: X-mat, because South Somerset District Council has got X-mat. 740 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:27.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and for them again back to the 32 and a half seconds. It took Alison Nidd, and a half seconds to oblige my request to 741 00:50:27.430 --> 00:50:32.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: exported again with table view in it, and it was there almost instantaneously. 742 00:50:32.610 --> 00:50:33.380 chris edwards: Yes, yes. 743 00:50:33.380 --> 00:50:44.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So it all depends upon the way in which they've done it. And if you are not happy with the data, then you talk to your friendly Andrew Clegg in Martok, who is going. 744 00:50:44.430 --> 00:50:44.910 chris edwards: It's the. 745 00:50:44.910 --> 00:50:46.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: On a conference call with. 746 00:50:46.730 --> 00:50:48.610 chris edwards: I had a rhymer next. 747 00:50:48.610 --> 00:50:51.350 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thursday, and he can ask this question. 748 00:50:51.510 --> 00:50:52.790 chris edwards: Okay, right 749 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:58.769 chris edwards: now, while we're looking at the map looking at street lights, the for the 750 00:50:58.890 --> 00:51:04.659 chris edwards: sake of people watching this demo, I get to click on one of them at random. 751 00:51:05.170 --> 00:51:11.609 chris edwards: and that will give me the id number of that particular street lamp. 752 00:51:11.670 --> 00:51:17.730 chris edwards: so you could do it individually to check out one particular area of your parish 753 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:21.859 chris edwards: and build up a list using these id numbers 754 00:51:22.070 --> 00:51:29.659 chris edwards: anyway, before I release my screen. For the help of Sheila and Stuart. 755 00:51:29.790 --> 00:51:32.390 chris edwards: Can I just click on something 756 00:51:32.910 --> 00:51:35.119 chris edwards: on the cogwheel here 757 00:51:39.170 --> 00:51:40.260 chris edwards: and 758 00:51:40.450 --> 00:51:43.130 chris edwards: going to planning applications. 759 00:51:44.650 --> 00:51:45.840 Sheila Churchward: 24. 760 00:51:48.410 --> 00:51:52.740 chris edwards: So, as as Graham pointed out, you can put as many of these 761 00:51:52.770 --> 00:51:56.879 chris edwards: sub layers within or table columns 762 00:51:56.930 --> 00:52:00.370 chris edwards: within each planning application. 763 00:52:00.390 --> 00:52:03.180 chris edwards: And, Sheila. I've got here. 764 00:52:04.268 --> 00:52:06.899 chris edwards: Our Parish Council's decision 765 00:52:07.170 --> 00:52:09.020 chris edwards: date of that decision. 766 00:52:09.965 --> 00:52:11.900 chris edwards: Somerset Council decision 767 00:52:11.950 --> 00:52:16.820 chris edwards: and the date. They decided it. So you can fill in all these items. 768 00:52:17.832 --> 00:52:19.580 chris edwards: For that particular 769 00:52:19.640 --> 00:52:20.860 chris edwards: application. 770 00:52:21.370 --> 00:52:26.710 chris edwards: And one last thing as an example. So I'm going to cancel that 771 00:52:27.010 --> 00:52:30.570 chris edwards: I'm going to go back to my maps 772 00:52:34.590 --> 00:52:37.150 chris edwards: go into my parish, Lawrence. 773 00:52:37.370 --> 00:52:40.320 chris edwards: come down to planning applications. 774 00:52:40.520 --> 00:52:43.530 chris edwards: and I'll pick one at random this one 775 00:52:47.359 --> 00:52:48.309 chris edwards: and 776 00:52:50.140 --> 00:52:51.300 chris edwards: I think it's 777 00:52:51.490 --> 00:52:53.049 chris edwards: that is good. 778 00:52:53.050 --> 00:53:01.509 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, you're in the Parish council. Sorry. Parish bound. The parish record and not the housing record. Chris. 779 00:53:01.950 --> 00:53:02.480 chris edwards: Oh! 780 00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:06.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you didn't click on close enough on what? On whichever building it was. 781 00:53:07.030 --> 00:53:09.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, if there you go. 782 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:09.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 783 00:53:09.930 --> 00:53:12.620 chris edwards: Now, if I click on this to show you 784 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:18.460 chris edwards: how do I? 785 00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:21.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just click on the little 2 squares. Yeah. 786 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:24.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, you don't have it linked up. 787 00:53:25.520 --> 00:53:29.129 chris edwards: Last. Let me let me go to another one. 788 00:53:29.130 --> 00:53:31.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup. It's always the way. 789 00:53:36.820 --> 00:53:37.950 chris edwards: Same again. 790 00:53:39.522 --> 00:53:43.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Can we go back to your administration layers. 791 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:46.150 chris edwards: Okay. 792 00:53:46.590 --> 00:53:47.940 Sheila Churchward: Admin, yeah. 793 00:53:55.780 --> 00:54:00.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just yeah, you should be able to click on the cog wheel, Chris, and go into administration. 794 00:54:01.910 --> 00:54:03.649 chris edwards: Oh, goodness gracious! 795 00:54:03.940 --> 00:54:05.360 chris edwards: Oh, gosh! 796 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:07.519 Sheila Churchward: We've given you the flummoxes. 797 00:54:07.520 --> 00:54:08.145 chris edwards: Yeah. 798 00:54:09.406 --> 00:54:14.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is all good for everybody. You can just do a refresh and sort the system out. 799 00:54:14.670 --> 00:54:15.470 Sheila Churchward: Refresh. 800 00:54:15.470 --> 00:54:19.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So no top go up a bit. Go up a bit up. No, that one, that one. Yeah. 801 00:54:21.130 --> 00:54:23.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so that will clean it all up. Chris. 802 00:54:23.120 --> 00:54:23.780 chris edwards: Hmm. 803 00:54:23.940 --> 00:54:25.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now you can go to administration 804 00:54:26.080 --> 00:54:27.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: administration. 805 00:54:29.010 --> 00:54:29.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 806 00:54:31.230 --> 00:54:32.580 Sheila Churchward: My layers. 807 00:54:32.860 --> 00:54:34.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into your planning layer. 808 00:54:35.060 --> 00:54:40.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We're 24, wasn't it? Yeah. So click on that, and then go up to the pencil. 809 00:54:41.570 --> 00:54:42.340 chris edwards: Which it is. 810 00:54:42.340 --> 00:54:46.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you need to. Not on the equal sign. Just click on the planning applications bit. 811 00:54:47.390 --> 00:54:48.259 Sheila Churchward: Let me text. 812 00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:50.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, now, you can go to edit. Yeah. 813 00:54:51.420 --> 00:54:56.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you go into that link there, I'm sorry you're on the wrong. 814 00:54:56.150 --> 00:54:56.620 Sheila Churchward: No, I'm. 815 00:54:56.620 --> 00:54:58.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Chris, can I saw that one? 816 00:55:00.160 --> 00:55:04.669 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, and go up into the columns on the top? Right? Go right right. 817 00:55:04.670 --> 00:55:05.840 Sheila Churchward: My columns. 818 00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:06.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Columns. 819 00:55:06.990 --> 00:55:08.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. 820 00:55:08.180 --> 00:55:08.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And yeah. 821 00:55:09.256 --> 00:55:10.209 Sheila Churchward: Here's happening. 822 00:55:10.210 --> 00:55:15.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You haven't clicked as link. So the top one click as a link click on the 3 dots. 823 00:55:16.330 --> 00:55:17.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you're done 824 00:55:18.090 --> 00:55:20.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: right. Now, if you go back now. 825 00:55:20.660 --> 00:55:22.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that Link should work all right. 826 00:55:25.680 --> 00:55:26.860 Sheila Churchward: It changes. 827 00:55:26.930 --> 00:55:29.767 Sheila Churchward: That's all. Good things save changes. 828 00:55:30.240 --> 00:55:30.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 829 00:55:33.110 --> 00:55:34.010 Sheila Churchward: Personally 830 00:55:34.370 --> 00:55:36.260 Sheila Churchward: tied into applications. 831 00:55:39.790 --> 00:55:40.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Rather than. 832 00:55:40.350 --> 00:55:41.140 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, there, you go. 833 00:55:41.140 --> 00:55:41.760 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 834 00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:42.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 835 00:55:47.340 --> 00:55:48.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: as if 836 00:55:48.750 --> 00:55:52.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it must be unique. Chris, your ability to choose the one record. 837 00:55:54.980 --> 00:55:55.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hi, Zach. 838 00:55:57.350 --> 00:55:58.040 Sheila Churchward: Is it? Is it? 839 00:55:58.040 --> 00:55:58.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Use another, one. 840 00:55:58.810 --> 00:56:02.799 Sheila Churchward: Probably a recent one. They're still they're determining what they're going to do. 841 00:56:08.340 --> 00:56:09.930 Sheila Churchward: Yes, now. 842 00:56:10.435 --> 00:56:12.960 chris edwards: Sheila, you asked about this? 843 00:56:13.624 --> 00:56:17.339 chris edwards: If you go into view, assorted no sorry. 844 00:56:17.583 --> 00:56:18.070 Sheila Churchward: You can. 845 00:56:18.070 --> 00:56:20.709 chris edwards: Here, here is the 846 00:56:22.170 --> 00:56:24.480 chris edwards: the thing you need to copy. 847 00:56:24.940 --> 00:56:26.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, yes. 848 00:56:26.200 --> 00:56:27.040 chris edwards: Right, so. 849 00:56:27.040 --> 00:56:27.950 Sheila Churchward: Right. 850 00:56:27.950 --> 00:56:29.599 chris edwards: Last. Here we are. 851 00:56:30.560 --> 00:56:31.290 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 852 00:56:31.810 --> 00:56:43.019 chris edwards: That's the thing you need to copy, and then insert into the layers on the left hand side, and this will give you, as Graham has pointed out earlier 853 00:56:43.210 --> 00:56:46.949 chris edwards: all the details from your local authority 854 00:56:47.700 --> 00:56:49.029 chris edwards: in in 855 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:53.669 chris edwards: the the items on that application for a house or. 856 00:56:54.490 --> 00:56:57.530 Sheila Churchward: Where does all that get saved, or is it just a link. 857 00:56:58.190 --> 00:56:59.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just a link, just a link. 858 00:56:59.660 --> 00:57:11.590 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, because I'm I'm very aware we have to save lots of data in our Parish Council, and they, I'm sure, at some point or the cloud isn't get full. 859 00:57:13.380 --> 00:57:14.040 chris edwards: Yeah. 860 00:57:14.510 --> 00:57:17.900 Sheila Churchward: Or the amount of cloud we pay for will get full, and I'm. 861 00:57:17.900 --> 00:57:18.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh no! 862 00:57:18.740 --> 00:57:26.399 Sheila Churchward: I'm very conscious of the fact that, you know I don't want to put a burden onto the Parish Council. 863 00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:27.040 chris edwards: Yeah. 864 00:57:27.410 --> 00:57:27.910 Sheila Churchward: For this. 865 00:57:27.910 --> 00:57:31.200 chris edwards: And one last thing, while while I'm showing this example. 866 00:57:31.290 --> 00:57:36.160 chris edwards: a very useful tool is, if you click on attachments. 867 00:57:37.190 --> 00:57:50.239 chris edwards: you can put in all sorts of different bits of information, including photographs. I mean, I can't remember what that is. So this is a red cliff homes proposal for houses. 868 00:57:50.310 --> 00:57:55.470 chris edwards: This will bring up the plan of the layout of the houses in that development. 869 00:57:55.630 --> 00:57:58.200 Sheila Churchward: That had been. That's that is more. You. 870 00:57:58.200 --> 00:57:59.190 chris edwards: Photograph 871 00:58:00.120 --> 00:58:01.840 chris edwards: that's part of the 872 00:58:01.970 --> 00:58:06.720 chris edwards: adjoining this footpath would link up with the proposed 873 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:07.530 chris edwards: application. 874 00:58:07.530 --> 00:58:08.840 Stuart Withington: For 29. 875 00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:15.549 chris edwards: Homes beyond these trees. So please make use of this. It's a very, very useful tool. 876 00:58:16.230 --> 00:58:19.770 Sheila Churchward: How long does the Council keep that information for. 877 00:58:20.080 --> 00:58:20.780 chris edwards: Reverend. 878 00:58:21.150 --> 00:58:26.690 Sheila Churchward: Do they? Yeah, not me, not me, the parish, but the District council, the. 879 00:58:26.690 --> 00:58:27.840 chris edwards: Yeah, forever. 880 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:30.130 Sheila Churchward: They do, do they? Yup? Yup. 881 00:58:30.130 --> 00:58:35.415 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you might just as well leave it in parish online forever as well. There's no penalty to doing that. 882 00:58:36.060 --> 00:58:37.440 Sheila Churchward: Oh, it looks like. 883 00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:38.940 Stuart Withington: Can I? Can. I just ask 884 00:58:39.210 --> 00:58:42.369 Stuart Withington: on that screen there, it said, log in or register. 885 00:58:43.170 --> 00:58:45.359 Stuart Withington: Do you have to do either of that? 886 00:58:45.530 --> 00:58:47.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which screen, where. 887 00:58:48.848 --> 00:58:54.429 Stuart Withington: The initial planning screen from the planning authority. 888 00:58:54.430 --> 00:58:55.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: On the portal. 889 00:58:55.710 --> 00:58:56.040 Stuart Withington: Yes. 890 00:58:56.040 --> 00:58:58.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So. No, there's absolutely no need to log in. 891 00:58:58.580 --> 00:58:59.309 Sheila Churchward: No, no. 892 00:58:59.642 --> 00:59:01.639 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The the link just works, regardless. 893 00:59:02.710 --> 00:59:03.200 Stuart Withington: Okay. 894 00:59:03.200 --> 00:59:06.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's a public facing portal. There's no login required. 895 00:59:10.330 --> 00:59:11.710 Sheila Churchward: That was interesting. 896 00:59:12.200 --> 00:59:17.400 Sheila Churchward: and it's nice having be able to do it while you were while we're talking. It's nice about it. 897 00:59:17.810 --> 00:59:18.640 Sheila Churchward: I'm not a few. 898 00:59:18.640 --> 00:59:26.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's I. I much prefer it when people do it themselves rather than listening to me blathering on, because then it it sinks home, doesn't it? 899 00:59:26.980 --> 00:59:27.770 Sheila Churchward: It does. 900 00:59:27.770 --> 00:59:28.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 901 00:59:29.070 --> 00:59:29.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: yeah. 902 00:59:29.710 --> 00:59:31.189 Sheila Churchward: That was really good. 903 00:59:31.190 --> 00:59:36.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So all those trees killed Princeton into writing those notes on pieces of paper. 904 00:59:36.940 --> 00:59:37.470 Prinson Thomas: Oh, yeah. 905 00:59:37.470 --> 00:59:38.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You could have been 906 00:59:39.740 --> 00:59:41.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: straight into. 907 00:59:42.020 --> 00:59:42.890 Prinson Thomas: Be a lot. 908 00:59:42.890 --> 00:59:45.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: To save trees. 909 00:59:45.560 --> 00:59:56.040 Prinson Thomas: Trees as well. And for the I'm just working under the operation and assets. So it's helping me to helping me to learn a lot, especially question from Stuart and Sheila, as well. 910 00:59:56.040 --> 00:59:56.910 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. 911 00:59:56.970 --> 00:59:59.739 Prinson Thomas: Especially the Ramza. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 912 00:59:59.750 --> 01:00:00.530 Sheila Churchward: I'm talking. 913 01:00:00.530 --> 01:00:02.100 Prinson Thomas: On the epic search. 914 01:00:02.100 --> 01:00:03.530 Sheila Churchward: Amazon just like that. 915 01:00:03.530 --> 01:00:08.992 Prinson Thomas: Yeah, the amount of horse paid from Andrew the way he was explaining it. That was, that was good. 916 01:00:09.970 --> 01:00:15.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, next week. Helen has promised us that she's gonna have all the questions that she wants answered on 917 01:00:16.040 --> 01:00:18.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: what you have to do for your council. 918 01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:19.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so 919 01:00:19.810 --> 01:00:21.999 Graham Stoddart-Stones: next week will be busy and. 920 01:00:25.300 --> 01:00:26.130 Sheila Churchward: Well. 921 01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:27.860 Sheila Churchward: that's good. 8. 922 01:00:28.630 --> 01:00:29.990 Sheila Churchward: What's next week? 923 01:00:30.140 --> 01:00:31.369 Helen Davey: Calling me Helen. 924 01:00:32.050 --> 01:00:37.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I was just. You said that you had all sorts of questions, but you were just marshaling your thoughts 925 01:00:37.390 --> 01:00:40.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: because you you there was some plotting you were being asked to do 926 01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:43.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: for your your parish. 927 01:00:44.560 --> 01:00:45.587 Helen Davey: Either. I will. 928 01:00:46.260 --> 01:00:48.489 Helen Davey: had those questions ready next week. 929 01:00:48.490 --> 01:00:52.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. So next week's taken care of. Phew! Right. 930 01:00:52.910 --> 01:00:55.049 Helen Davey: Confused me when you called me Helen. 931 01:00:55.546 --> 01:00:59.143 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, I'm very sorry, Hazel. I should. I really should not. 932 01:00:59.470 --> 01:01:01.859 Sheila Churchward: Says it, says Helen, on your thing. 933 01:01:01.860 --> 01:01:03.729 Helen Davey: That is my name. Oh. 934 01:01:04.140 --> 01:01:04.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But. 935 01:01:04.610 --> 01:01:05.809 Helen Davey: Have you still have it? I still. 936 01:01:05.810 --> 01:01:07.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We have a thing, Sheila. 937 01:01:07.650 --> 01:01:08.330 Sheila Churchward: Oh. 938 01:01:10.140 --> 01:01:11.469 Sheila Churchward: got pet names! 939 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:23.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There is. I was on a banter session the other day for a much larger audience, and we were being given a presentation by a guy called Chris. 940 01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:32.433 Graham Stoddart-Stones: At the end of the presentation I came up and said, John, thank you so much, for that really didn't go down. Well, my self esteem 941 01:01:33.050 --> 01:01:41.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: right. If nobody else has any questions, I would be happy to wish you all a very happy weekend. But is this the one who's got a question. 942 01:01:41.190 --> 01:01:41.990 Stuart Withington: Very much. 943 01:01:41.990 --> 01:01:43.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lovely to see you all. Take care. 944 01:01:43.650 --> 01:01:44.500 Andrew Clegg: I'm ready. 945 01:01:44.500 --> 01:01:46.260 Prinson Thomas: Weekend guys. Bye, bye.

240906 - 06Sep24 - Planning Apps (displaying RAMSAR, SSSI), Hyperlinks, PRoW, Collaborative Layers

240906 - 06Sep24 - Planning Apps (displaying RAMSAR, SSSI), Hyperlinks, PRoW, Collaborative Layers

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