> For the complete documentation index, see [llms.txt](https://chagos.gitbook.io/parish-online/llms.txt). Markdown versions of documentation pages are available by appending `.md` to page URLs; this page is available as [Markdown](https://chagos.gitbook.io/parish-online/parish-online-banter-sessions/251017-17oct25-session25-42.md). # 251017 - 17Oct25 session25-42 Asset Management, Council Data, Parish Layers (starting the first one), creating, editing and styling first feature (labels, colours), Cadastral Parcels, Land Registry, InspireID, Postal Codes and Using PRINT to share mapping data, getting Council Data, Planning Applications and data from councils, List all commercial buildings in a parish: using Addressbase, Table View, Export, Using Tools, Annotate to highlight mapping features - eg for making presentations {% embed url="" %} ### Video Timeline: (min:sec) 00:00 - 03:24 Introductory Banter 03:24 - 05:20 Introduction to Barrowby (Lincs) 05:20 - 26:36 Introduction to Botley (Hants): Asset Management, Council Data, Parish Layers (starting the first one), creating, editing and styling first feature (labels, colours) 26:36 - 30:40 Banter 30:40 - 40:00 Introduction to Cadastral Parcels, Land Registry, InspireID, Postal Codes 40:00 - 44:00 Using PRINT to share mapping data 44:00 - 47:25 Council Data 47:25 - 50:00 Planning Applications and data from councils 50:00 - 61:48. List all commercial buildings in a parish: using Addressbase, Table View, Export) 61:48 - 65:21 (end) Using Tools, Annotate to highlight mapping features - eg for making presentations *** ### Meeting Summary: ### Quick recap The meeting began with introductions and discussions about mapping tools for land management, with Jean-Pierre sharing a new software discovery and Graham guiding James through Parish Online functionality. The group explored various aspects of land registry data access, mapping capabilities, and data management challenges, including discussions about unregistered land and historical records. The session concluded with demonstrations on how to extract parish data, annotate features, and manage commercial building classifications, with participants gaining valuable insights into mapping software tools and data management processes. ### Next steps * [Jean-Pierre to contact Lincolnshire County Council to request access to additional data layers for Parish Online, following the instructions in the Knowledge Base article on council data.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=l3V6FqrvQhWVk70wYGwEtA%3D%3D\&stepId=1b44a9a9-ab63-11f0-aa33-fa1479f325ab) * [Jean-Pierre to investigate ownership of the village green by checking with Lincolnshire County Council for registered village green records.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=l3V6FqrvQhWVk70wYGwEtA%3D%3D\&stepId=1b44af9b-ab63-11f0-93e9-fa1479f325ab) * [James to create additional Parish layers in Parish Online for different phases of asset acquisition and regeneration projects.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=l3V6FqrvQhWVk70wYGwEtA%3D%3D\&stepId=1b44b292-ab63-11f0-9277-fa1479f325ab) * [James to explore requesting planning data from the local borough council to be added to Parish Online.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=l3V6FqrvQhWVk70wYGwEtA%3D%3D\&stepId=1b44b5e9-ab63-11f0-8cb3-fa1479f325ab) * [Claire to export commercial building data using the filtering and data extract functions demonstrated.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=l3V6FqrvQhWVk70wYGwEtA%3D%3D\&stepId=1b44c3f0-ab63-11f0-ab46-fa1479f325ab) * [David to use the annotation feature in Parish Online to mark road features that need to be changed for presentation to the Parish Council.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=l3V6FqrvQhWVk70wYGwEtA%3D%3D\&stepId=1b44c657-ab63-11f0-a3eb-fa1479f325ab) ### Summary #### New Tool for Land Mapping The meeting began with introductions and casual conversation among participants. Jean-Pierre, a new attendee, shared his recent discovery of a software tool for mapping unclaimed or unregistered land, which he found useful for preventing unauthorized development. Graham expressed interest in the tool and mentioned that Jean-Pierre would be the first to discuss topics in future sessions. The conversation ended with Graham noting a few pending questions that would be addressed if the questioners arrived later. #### Parish Online Asset Management James discussed using Parish Online as an asset management tool and sought guidance on creating temporary layers for phased regeneration projects. Graham suggested importing digital maps from external sources if possible, as Parish Online is a GIS system. He also recommended exploring the Parish Layers feature, which James had not yet done. James expressed confusion about the instructions to use Parish Layers, as he had not created one yet. #### Parish Online Layer Management Training James learned how to create and manage a new layer in Parish Online, including adding features, editing data, and applying styles. Graham guided James through the process, explaining key concepts such as geometry types, columns, and categorization. They encountered some technical issues but resolved them by refreshing the page and adjusting settings. James successfully created a test layer, added features, and categorized them as lakes. The session concluded with James learning how to style the layer to match existing maps. #### Parish Online Functionality Training Graham and James discussed the functionality of Parish Online, focusing on how to change the color of lakes and manage different phases within the system. James learned how to differentiate between phases using color coding and discussed the flexibility of the tool for managing multiple phases on a single map. Graham emphasized the importance of simplicity at this stage and encouraged James to focus on functionality over style. The session concluded with Mahrukh joining the call, introducing herself as a volunteer with Blackbird Leeds Parish Council and expressing her interest in learning more about the system. #### Land Registry Data Access Training Graham demonstrated how to access and verify land registry data, showing Jean-Pierre how to use the Cadastro Parcels feature to link to Inspire IDs and view associated documents. Jean-Pierre, who is new to his role as a parish councillor, expressed interest in making parish records more digital and referenceable, particularly regarding unnumbered white squares on the land registry map which he identified as playing fields. #### Challenges with Unregistered Land Registration The group discussed challenges with unregistered land and the limitations of the Land Registry's online database, which only goes back to the early 1970s. James shared his experience of registering an allotment through a legal team, highlighting the need for registration to access services like water connection. Stuart suggested enlisting the help of a solicitor or conveyancer to search for deeds or historical records, while Tristram mentioned the Land Registry's inquiry service as a potential alternative. Jean-Pierre expressed concern about the lack of visual mapping features in the registry, which Stuart confirmed was due to the absence of an Ordinance Survey overlay. #### Land Records and Map Navigation Graham guided Jean-Pierre through navigating and printing maps from a software interface, including how to turn on and off different layers like postal codes and land registry data. Jean-Pierre expressed concern about a 600-year-old village green being incorrectly registered, and Stuart suggested checking with the county council's records for verification. James shared an example from Botley where historical land records from county archives revealed an unexplained land grab from 1918, emphasizing the importance of accessing old records for land disputes. #### Data Export and Planning Insights Graham explained to Jean-Pierre that Lincolnshire County Council is exporting data, though not as much as other areas like Bath and Northeast Somerset. He guided Jean-Pierre on how to use the Parish Online help system to learn about data export procedures, noting that once set up, Parish Online can quickly process data. James expressed interest in obtaining planning data for Botley Parish, which is undergoing significant development, but Graham warned that council-held planning information can be difficult to use due to poor organization and limited filtering options. The conversation ended with Graham mentioning that he and Stuart needed to address questions from two absent participants, including one from Claire who requested a list of commercial buildings in her area. #### Commercial Building Classification System Updates The team discussed how to filter and classify commercial buildings in a mapping system, with Graham and Stuart exploring different classification options and filters to refine the data. They discovered that using "starts with" instead of "equals" for the classification allowed them to see relevant commercial data, though they noted some limitations in the system's categorization. Stuart demonstrated how to export the filtered data to a CSV format for Claire's purposes, though they identified that some commercial businesses might be missing from the current categorization. #### Parish Data Mapping Software Demo The meeting focused on demonstrating how to use mapping software to extract parish data and annotate features for potential changes. Graham guided Stuart through the process of selecting parish records, creating data extracts, and using annotation tools to highlight specific areas for modification. They also discussed issues with map loading speed, which Stuart attributed to poor internet connection. The session concluded with no unresolved questions, and participants expressed gratitude for the demonstration. *** ### Chat: 00:43:33 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): I have just noticed the one place on my parish map not registered with the Land Registry is a development site. \ 01:10:47 Mahrukh Awan: Thank you for the lovely session. I have to leave. Rest I will see the recording. *** ### Audio-Transcript: 9\ 00:06:24.350 --> 00:06:26.769\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm expecting some new faces today. 20\ 00:06:28.580 --> 00:06:30.440\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that's very exciting. 21\ 00:06:30.930 --> 00:06:34.619\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But if you, promise to behave, I'll tell you who they are. 22\ 00:06:36.330 --> 00:06:37.010\ Stuart Bacon: Correct. 23\ 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:42.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No more disappearing to rapturous songs. 24\ 00:06:44.320 --> 00:06:45.479\ tristram cary: No more what? 25\ 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:51.719\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Disappearing into rapturous singing. Oh, dear, we've got Jean-Pierre is coming. 26\ 00:06:54.950 --> 00:06:58.649\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Barrow, where's Barrowbie? I don't know where Barrowbie is. 27\ 00:07:00.310 --> 00:07:02.080\ Retired Clerk: Probably near Barrow A. 28\ 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.050\ Retired Clerk: A bit like English dirty. 29\ 00:07:06.050 --> 00:07:10.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. Oh, thank you. 30\ 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:14.839\ Stuart Bacon: I think he walks in for that one, Graham. 31\ 00:07:15.250 --> 00:07:20.939\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I was just wondering whether a sizewell B was a particularly large one. Did it sting you badly? 32\ 00:07:27.390 --> 00:07:34.450\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not to worry, well, indeed, there are all sorts of strange names due to arrive, but they haven't done yet. 33\ 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:42.030\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And some of them are new to… new to… to me. 34\ 00:07:48.840 --> 00:07:51.590\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You don't know where Leatherstock Ford is? 35\ 00:07:53.670 --> 00:07:54.510\ tristram cary: Nope. 36\ 00:07:54.510 --> 00:07:55.889\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right, well. 37\ 00:07:55.890 --> 00:07:57.930\ Retired Clerk: I'm tempted, but I better not. 38\ 00:08:01.870 --> 00:08:03.719\ Stuart Bacon: Baraby, I think, is… 39\ 00:08:03.980 --> 00:08:19.500\ Jean-Pierre Durand: It's me, Jean-Pierre, I'm Baraby. But I think this is the first session we're having, and if I want to do this on my computer, there is no camera, so I'm sorry if that is not the. 40\ 00:08:19.500 --> 00:08:20.430\ Stuart Bacon: Congratulations. 41\ 00:08:22.090 --> 00:08:24.229\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adds to the mystery, Jean-Pierre. 42\ 00:08:24.230 --> 00:08:27.010\ Retired Clerk: Yeah, we hide… we hide ourselves anyway, half the time. 43\ 00:08:27.010 --> 00:08:29.060\ Jean-Pierre Durand: It'd be rather disappointing, I can tell you. 44\ 00:08:29.060 --> 00:08:30.590\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Aww. 45\ 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:33.399\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, well… 46\ 00:08:33.400 --> 00:08:38.250\ Retired Clerk: You've got to put Graham out of his misery and just give us a clue where you are in the country. 47\ 00:08:38.630 --> 00:08:44.010\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. It's Leatherstocked forward. No, that's not you, you're, you're Barrowby, aren't you? 48\ 00:08:44.010 --> 00:08:45.330\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, I'm Barbie. 49\ 00:08:45.880 --> 00:08:46.530\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Sure, that's. 50\ 00:08:46.530 --> 00:08:48.699\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's… that narrows it down. 51\ 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:49.810\ Stuart Bacon: Lincolnshire. 52\ 00:08:49.810 --> 00:08:52.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lincolnshire, sorry. Thank you. Alright. 53\ 00:08:52.280 --> 00:08:52.950\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah. 54\ 00:08:53.990 --> 00:08:55.090\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: On the coast? 55\ 00:08:55.330 --> 00:08:58.340\ Jean-Pierre Durand: No, no, no, no. On a hill. 56\ 00:08:59.620 --> 00:09:04.359\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't know if it makes a difference. Well, there aren't many animals in Lincolnshire, are there? 57\ 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:06.540\ Jean-Pierre Durand: No, no. 58\ 00:09:07.990 --> 00:09:09.600\ Stuart Bacon: The outskirts of Grantham. 59\ 00:09:10.190 --> 00:09:10.970\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yo. 60\ 00:09:11.800 --> 00:09:19.980\ Jean-Pierre Durand: In fact, that's one of our biggest issues, is the fact that we're on the outskirts of Grantham, because they can't decide whether we're a separate village or whether we are part of Grantham. 61\ 00:09:21.040 --> 00:09:23.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Your neighborhood plan will tell them all. 62\ 00:09:24.330 --> 00:09:26.660\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, once it's finally accepted. 63\ 00:09:28.630 --> 00:09:31.059\ Jean-Pierre Durand: And then tilted burns will just ignore all of that. 64\ 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.630\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that's right. 65\ 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.120\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nevermind. Well… 66\ 00:09:38.330 --> 00:09:47.600\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Jean-Pierre, as you're, the newest arrival, as far as we're concerned, you have honor of first place to say, is there anything you'd like to have covered today? 67\ 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:58.350\ Jean-Pierre Durand: So, I've recently discovered this amazing software, because we were looking at trying to find little parcels of land that were unclaimed. 68\ 00:09:58.350 --> 00:10:09.279\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Or that wasn't necessarily registered with Land Registry, in order to try and make sure that it doesn't fall into the wrong hands, or people start claiming things, and… 69\ 00:10:09.340 --> 00:10:12.520\ Jean-Pierre Durand: We have developers that want to use bits of 70\ 00:10:12.900 --> 00:10:21.689\ Jean-Pierre Durand: land as access. So I found the overlay of… Land registry, quite useful. 71\ 00:10:21.690 --> 00:10:22.659\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 72\ 00:10:23.210 --> 00:10:28.660\ Jean-Pierre Durand: So that's the only thing I've discovered so far. I believe a lot of it needs inputting manually. 73\ 00:10:28.950 --> 00:10:38.759\ Jean-Pierre Durand: specific to Barabi, but I've only had 2 days of play with this, so I'm eager to learn what else we can do. 74\ 00:10:39.420 --> 00:10:41.889\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh my gosh, it's almost unlimited. 75\ 00:10:41.890 --> 00:10:45.280\ Jean-Pierre Durand: How long have you got? Yes. 76\ 00:10:45.650 --> 00:10:52.800\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: of… Oh, I'll say good afternoon to John. Nice to see you, John. 77\ 00:10:53.110 --> 00:10:56.110\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're no longer trying to hide under camouflage. 78\ 00:10:59.020 --> 00:11:00.020\ John Roberts: underneath. 79\ 00:11:00.410 --> 00:11:01.200\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right. 80\ 00:11:02.310 --> 00:11:04.470\ Retired Clerk: He's a mind of many layers. 81\ 00:11:04.470 --> 00:11:05.130\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 82\ 00:11:07.170 --> 00:11:08.820\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very tropical layers. 83\ 00:11:10.420 --> 00:11:16.680\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I do have a couple of questions that were called in during the week, 84\ 00:11:16.910 --> 00:11:22.030\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: In the expectation by the questioners that they would be here to go through the answers. 85\ 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:27.330\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So far, neither has arrived, but I'll hold them in 86\ 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:29.989\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just in case they show up. 87\ 00:11:31.230 --> 00:11:32.990\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, 88\ 00:11:33.340 --> 00:11:39.139\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: James, you're also hiding away in the background. Do you have anything in particular you'd like to cover this week? 89\ 00:11:40.940 --> 00:11:42.629\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And are you even there? 90\ 00:11:43.050 --> 00:11:44.220\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Moriarty? 91\ 00:11:46.520 --> 00:11:48.790\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, you are. Hello, James, how are you? 92\ 00:11:49.180 --> 00:11:53.699\ James Franklin: Hello, sorry, I was, replying to emails, very rude of me. 93\ 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:58.580\ James Franklin: not quite so much that I'd like to cover. I've been… 94\ 00:11:58.870 --> 00:12:02.039\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: delving deeper into Parrish Online with. 95\ 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:04.900\ James Franklin: Inputting all of our assets, and… 96\ 00:12:05.340 --> 00:12:08.670\ James Franklin: Using it more as an asset management tool, and… 97\ 00:12:10.940 --> 00:12:21.640\ James Franklin: more for my benefit, just to keep track of everything that's going on, which is really a useful feature. I'm… I would like to know about creating… 98\ 00:12:22.590 --> 00:12:29.160\ James Franklin: Temporary layers for… my own phased… 99\ 00:12:30.030 --> 00:12:36.319\ James Franklin: Sort of regeneration projects, or, as we get more asset acquisition from 100\ 00:12:36.730 --> 00:12:46.330\ James Franklin: Through the unification, sort of plotting layers for different phases of Our onboarding of assets, basically. 101\ 00:12:46.620 --> 00:12:47.530\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: What? 102\ 00:12:48.740 --> 00:12:50.790\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Only of assets, or… 103\ 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:53.779\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Pieces of land, or other stuff, or… 104\ 00:12:54.640 --> 00:12:56.480\ James Franklin: I… so in… 105\ 00:12:56.590 --> 00:13:07.210\ James Franklin: it's really ranging, because we've had quite a lot of developments in our parish, that are arranged by local borough council, but they're actually in our patch, so… 106\ 00:13:07.540 --> 00:13:21.279\ James Franklin: we're, you know, we're getting a community center and a pavilion and land associated, but then we're also getting things from a developer that's going to go from a developer to the Borough council to us, so it just sort of skips through the Borough Council to us. 107\ 00:13:21.530 --> 00:13:28.060\ James Franklin: So that's, again, land, woodland, waterways, bodies of water, buildings. 108\ 00:13:28.860 --> 00:13:38.359\ James Franklin: parks, bent… you… if it exists, it could be coming, but it's sort of… we need to have a phased management plan, so I'd like to create, like, a… 109\ 00:13:39.210 --> 00:13:44.790\ James Franklin: a Phase 1 layer, a Phase 2 layer, so that I can… Demonstrate on the map. 110\ 00:13:45.160 --> 00:13:46.180\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: what's coming. 111\ 00:13:46.180 --> 00:13:51.570\ James Franklin: What's coming, and in what phase, and… Yeah, it's just a… 112\ 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:57.390\ James Franklin: quick sort of Q\&A on making custom layers for myself, I guess. 113\ 00:13:58.230 --> 00:14:10.320\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, I think I might start. The first thing I would say was, if you can persuade the people who create the maps for the borough, or for the developer, or something. 114\ 00:14:10.550 --> 00:14:27.359\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: they're probably using what's called a geographic information system, a GIS, and Parish Online is a GIS, and therefore, it's likely to be able to exchange information with them. And if somebody's already gone to the trouble of creating it digitally. 115\ 00:14:27.420 --> 00:14:32.739\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it really helps if you can just import it, and not have to do anything. 116\ 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:45.489\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's the overview, that if you can get to that position, that's ideal, but it's not always straightforward to do that. In fact, I'll go the other way around and say it's never straightforward to do that. 117\ 00:14:45.830 --> 00:14:57.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But having covered that as sort of my starting caveat, then have you come across yet what's called parish layers, which is the first of the beige ones in your left-hand column? 118\ 00:14:58.060 --> 00:15:03.739\ James Franklin: So, I'm just gonna… Oh, allow at this time, yeah, let's put your P\&P. 119\ 00:15:04.190 --> 00:15:05.850\ James Franklin: So… 120\ 00:15:07.090 --> 00:15:13.579\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, in the left-hand column, you've got a bunch of green layers, or collections, and then you go down to beige-colored ones. 121\ 00:15:13.920 --> 00:15:14.490\ James Franklin: Yes. 122\ 00:15:14.490 --> 00:15:16.799\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the top one is called Parish Layers. 123\ 00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:19.989\ James Franklin: My top one is assets and maintenance. 124\ 00:15:20.490 --> 00:15:24.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so you've got a brand new system, you haven't even created a partial AI yet. 125\ 00:15:24.820 --> 00:15:25.430\ James Franklin: No. 126\ 00:15:25.430 --> 00:15:28.339\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That would be a fun goal for today. 127\ 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:38.359\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But… because it is very disconcerting when all the instructions tell you to go to the parish layers and start from there, and then you suddenly find that there is no parish lair. 128\ 00:15:38.910 --> 00:15:41.200\ James Franklin: I think that's where I'm becoming unstuck. 129\ 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.510\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, well, let's unstick you, then. 130\ 00:15:43.710 --> 00:15:49.869\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because the thing to do is to create an error, and then they'll be there forevermore. 131\ 00:15:50.300 --> 00:16:01.510\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, just see if you've got the right rights and privileges. If you go up to the top line of the Parish Online screen, there's a bunch of white menus, one of which is called Create. 132\ 00:16:02.140 --> 00:16:02.920\ James Franklin: Yes. 133\ 00:16:02.920 --> 00:16:06.170\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on that, you should see New Layer. 134\ 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:09.080\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adler or something? 135\ 00:16:09.830 --> 00:16:10.730\ James Franklin: Yes. 136\ 00:16:10.880 --> 00:16:12.190\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, so click on that. 137\ 00:16:13.050 --> 00:16:14.989\ James Franklin: I'm gonna call it test for now. 138\ 00:16:15.250 --> 00:16:23.860\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you would like to share your screen, then it makes it much easier for anybody who's talking to you to realize where the heck they've taken you. 139\ 00:16:23.860 --> 00:16:27.469\ James Franklin: Yep, bear with me one second, I'm sure I know how to do that. 140\ 00:16:27.770 --> 00:16:28.889\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: He says. 141\ 00:16:29.330 --> 00:16:37.859\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, in Zoom, if you put your mouse on the bottom line in the middle of the screen, it'll bring up a big green arrow which says share screen. 142\ 00:16:38.180 --> 00:16:39.689\ James Franklin: Yep, that's right. 143\ 00:16:39.890 --> 00:16:43.950\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and then it asks you to select a window that you want to share. 144\ 00:16:44.170 --> 00:16:47.909\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can either select the one that's got… oh, you're well on the way, okay? 145\ 00:16:47.910 --> 00:16:49.050\ James Franklin: There we go. 146\ 00:16:49.270 --> 00:16:50.310\ James Franklin: Right. 147\ 00:16:50.310 --> 00:16:52.020\ Stuart Bacon: So it's called. 148\ 00:16:53.010 --> 00:16:55.510\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've got a lovely picture of me, how very exciting. 149\ 00:16:55.660 --> 00:17:03.830\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, yes, so good. You're creating your first layer, and you're calling it test, that's ideal, so go ahead and click on the next button. 150\ 00:17:05.410 --> 00:17:24.299\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, when you create layers, there are 3 types of geometry that you can use. You can either use points, which are things like bus stops or exercise areas on your racetrack, you know, or you can use lines, which are sort of self-explanatory. They're walls, they're pavements, they're boundaries around fields. 151\ 00:17:24.300 --> 00:17:26.400\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Everything else is a polygon. 152\ 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:35.080\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, for your example today, the easiest thing to choose is a point, but if you wanted to be a daredevil, you'd go for Polygon. 153\ 00:17:36.110 --> 00:17:36.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: We just… 154\ 00:17:36.840 --> 00:17:37.390\ James Franklin: I'm gonna… 155\ 00:17:37.390 --> 00:17:39.110\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just like one of them. 156\ 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:44.039\ James Franklin: I'm gonna have to allocate Areas more than, sort of. 157\ 00:17:44.190 --> 00:17:44.920\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so… 158\ 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.329\ James Franklin: Polygon, just because… Or our zone maps. 159\ 00:17:48.330 --> 00:17:49.949\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Off you go, then. Click on that. 160\ 00:17:51.090 --> 00:17:52.140\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then… 161\ 00:17:52.710 --> 00:18:03.000\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: This description space is optional, but it's extremely useful to remind yourself when you come back to this layer in 6 months' time what the hell you created it for. 162\ 00:18:03.610 --> 00:18:10.710\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because a lot of people who create lots of layers then have no way of working out later why on earth they created it. 163\ 00:18:24.050 --> 00:18:24.840\ James Franklin: See you for now. 164\ 00:18:26.290 --> 00:18:40.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, click on next. So, it's asking you now what columns you like, and you're thinking of columns in sort of a spreadsheet question of rows and columns. If you're a database person, you might call these fields. 165\ 00:18:40.700 --> 00:18:47.799\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you need… you always need at least one, just so you can store something to find your thing again, so if you click on the plus sign there… 166\ 00:18:47.930 --> 00:18:50.650\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It'll pop up and call it name for you. 167\ 00:18:50.840 --> 00:18:55.800\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And for the moment, you can just leave that there as it is, but if you click on the plus sign again. 168\ 00:18:57.810 --> 00:19:09.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It'll do another one, and it says, I've named it Name, but you can't call it Name. So, just for today, try changing the second name there to the word status. So just put your mouse on it, and there you go. 169\ 00:19:10.610 --> 00:19:14.169\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You and I have a different understanding of the word second. 170\ 00:19:18.220 --> 00:19:18.980\ James Franklin: Oh. 171\ 00:19:18.980 --> 00:19:22.630\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter in the slightest, do you? 172\ 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:23.380\ Retired Clerk: Mmm. 173\ 00:19:23.380 --> 00:19:23.700\ James Franklin: Okay. 174\ 00:19:23.700 --> 00:19:26.990\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Call it status, if you would, please. 175\ 00:19:29.950 --> 00:19:35.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, S-T-A-T-U-S, which is for… This morning? Yeah, okay. 176\ 00:19:36.970 --> 00:19:44.549\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And leave it at that so you can just finish. And the reason for this is that you're… the purpose of these calls… 177\ 00:19:46.310 --> 00:19:47.820\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, it's 2. 178\ 00:19:47.820 --> 00:19:50.759\ James Franklin: Just… Does it matter about what the type is? 179\ 00:19:51.110 --> 00:19:54.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, you could leave them as texts, both of them. 180\ 00:19:54.150 --> 00:19:54.840\ James Franklin: Okay. 181\ 00:19:55.930 --> 00:20:01.090\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that looks like it's not… it hasn't sort of picked up on it. That's interesting. Try saving anyway. 182\ 00:20:02.180 --> 00:20:05.169\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But I'm a bit surprised it says that to you. 183\ 00:20:05.630 --> 00:20:07.250\ James Franklin: No. 184\ 00:20:07.250 --> 00:20:08.159\ tristram cary: Say that. 185\ 00:20:10.970 --> 00:20:11.380\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I… 186\ 00:20:11.380 --> 00:20:12.869\ James Franklin: I didn't call them to your mouth. 187\ 00:20:15.900 --> 00:20:19.999\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Try, you tried clicking on save, did you? 188\ 00:20:20.520 --> 00:20:21.180\ James Franklin: Yeah. 189\ 00:20:21.180 --> 00:20:21.900\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: They did not say. 190\ 00:20:21.900 --> 00:20:22.400\ James Franklin: background. 191\ 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:23.040\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, right. 192\ 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:25.869\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go back to go back, then. 193\ 00:20:27.780 --> 00:20:28.580\ tristram cary: That's you. 194\ 00:20:28.580 --> 00:20:30.199\ James Franklin: Do I need to allow values? 195\ 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:37.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, no, that's if you want to have a drop-down list so that when people are filling in data, they only put in the values you want. 196\ 00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:38.590\ James Franklin: Oh, okay. 197\ 00:20:38.590 --> 00:20:46.529\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you're running a project to build your new cricket pavilion or something, you might have values that have not yet started, under construction, and finished. 198\ 00:20:47.280 --> 00:20:47.800\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's. 199\ 00:20:47.800 --> 00:20:48.840\ James Franklin: I'm with you. 200\ 00:20:49.250 --> 00:20:51.620\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if… 201\ 00:20:51.620 --> 00:20:53.100\ tristram cary: Try again. 202\ 00:20:53.100 --> 00:20:55.020\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just try clicking on Finish. 203\ 00:20:57.060 --> 00:20:59.369\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, still doesn't like it, does it? Okay. 204\ 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:01.120\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well… 205\ 00:21:01.120 --> 00:21:04.809\ tristram cary: Maybe it likes a name, in the first, the top right, top left. 206\ 00:21:05.300 --> 00:21:06.809\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we can say yes. 207\ 00:21:06.810 --> 00:21:08.530\ tristram cary: unlikely, I agree, but. 208\ 00:21:08.800 --> 00:21:13.210\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Try switching those around, just put… yeah, exactly, and change the top one to name. 209\ 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:15.169\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: with a capital N. 210\ 00:21:20.710 --> 00:21:21.729\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. 211\ 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:25.490\ James Franklin: Alright. 212\ 00:21:25.490 --> 00:21:26.290\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 213\ 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:33.069\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right, well, sometimes we just have to take it that something's gone a bit astray, and we'll start afresh, so… 214\ 00:21:33.070 --> 00:21:35.589\ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Just delete one of them. 215\ 00:21:37.890 --> 00:21:38.680\ James Franklin: Okay… 216\ 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:39.720\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on the water… 217\ 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:40.400\ James Franklin: I warmer. 218\ 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:41.180\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 219\ 00:21:41.990 --> 00:21:45.529\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It doesn't think it's there, really. 220\ 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.890\ tristram cary: Why is that? Perhaps it doesn't like the spelling of Stasis. 221\ 00:21:48.890 --> 00:21:56.560\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No. If you… if you go up to the circle at the top left of your browser, James, for the one that says refresh… 222\ 00:21:57.610 --> 00:21:58.800\ James Franklin: I'm with you. 223\ 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:02.320\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that one. Let's just start afresh, because sometimes. 224\ 00:22:02.320 --> 00:22:02.960\ James Franklin: Oh. 225\ 00:22:04.560 --> 00:22:08.230\ Stuart Bacon: Perhaps it's logged you out, and thus it wouldn't save the layer. 226\ 00:22:08.230 --> 00:22:10.410\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, whatever. 227\ 00:22:10.410 --> 00:22:15.179\ Stuart Bacon: If it timed you out, you might have had issues with creating the layer that way. 228\ 00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:16.990\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So go into Create again. 229\ 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:19.459\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And a new layer. 230\ 00:22:20.970 --> 00:22:23.320\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just repeat what you've done so far. 231\ 00:22:31.150 --> 00:22:32.140\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 232\ 00:22:38.390 --> 00:22:39.109\ James Franklin: Well, there's no problem. 233\ 00:22:39.110 --> 00:22:40.399\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go, yep. 234\ 00:22:40.830 --> 00:22:48.860\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, it looks as if nothing has happened very much, but you will see that the word parish there has now arrived, and if you click that open. 235\ 00:22:49.320 --> 00:22:52.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You'll find, that your test is there. 236\ 00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:54.350\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… 237\ 00:22:54.710 --> 00:23:06.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: The thing to mention here to you, James, is that Parish Online always adds a new layer to the bottom of that list, so if you had 10 parish layers in there, you'd find yours as number 11. 238\ 00:23:07.850 --> 00:23:08.360\ James Franklin: Okay. 239\ 00:23:08.360 --> 00:23:13.209\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Today, you're number one, obviously. So, to actually use it now, you click on it. 240\ 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:19.499\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, you're going to add a feature, so if you click on that little cogwheel… 241\ 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:25.259\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: and add a feature. This means it's… you're actually going to put your test somewhere. 242\ 00:23:25.580 --> 00:23:32.430\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, it's helpful to find either a recreation area, or an empty field, or somewhere where you can just plonk this thing. 243\ 00:23:33.950 --> 00:23:46.469\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That looks good. Okay. So, to draw, you put your mouse where you want to start the drawing, and then click… left-click once, and then pull the mouse. 244\ 00:23:46.700 --> 00:23:51.399\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you change direction by clicking again, and then just change direction. 245\ 00:23:51.570 --> 00:23:52.609\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. 246\ 00:23:53.580 --> 00:23:58.040\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's good, you obviously got the hang of this. And then when you're finished, you do a double-click. 247\ 00:23:58.840 --> 00:23:59.360\ James Franklin: Yep. 248\ 00:23:59.360 --> 00:24:04.189\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this… you need to put something in the name field, just so you can find this again. 249\ 00:24:07.060 --> 00:24:07.490\ James Franklin: Yep. 250\ 00:24:07.490 --> 00:24:09.070\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and save it. 251\ 00:24:10.070 --> 00:24:14.970\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you notice it's all in blue at the moment, it'll change to red to show it's been saved. 252\ 00:24:15.410 --> 00:24:16.140\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now… 253\ 00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:16.650\ James Franklin: Okay. 254\ 00:24:16.650 --> 00:24:31.110\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's suppose that you… the system on your left, your left-hand column, automatically assumes you want to add another feature. So it sort of gives you a new blank record. If you're only going to do the one, then you can just click on the X at the top of the left-hand column. 255\ 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:32.910\ James Franklin: Okay. 256\ 00:24:33.460 --> 00:24:39.220\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, if you decide that you want to go and look at your test. 257\ 00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:44.179\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You click anywhere in it, And which opens up the editor again. 258\ 00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:45.070\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you. 259\ 00:24:45.070 --> 00:24:45.899\ James Franklin: I'm with you. 260\ 00:24:45.900 --> 00:24:47.770\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, click on the word test. 261\ 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:55.880\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you can do any changes to that record. So if you click on the pencil icon, which is the edit pencil. 262\ 00:24:56.470 --> 00:25:04.860\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: then you could change the name if you didn't like Lake 1, and you can also move the boundaries of the lake 263\ 00:25:04.990 --> 00:25:05.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… 264\ 00:25:05.580 --> 00:25:06.800\ James Franklin: on with you. 265\ 00:25:06.800 --> 00:25:12.299\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just, you can just put it in the middle of one of those lines and pull, and you can just see what the effect is. Just pull it. 266\ 00:25:12.300 --> 00:25:14.080\ James Franklin: Oh, so I can put it out without… 267\ 00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:14.940\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Diego, yes. 268\ 00:25:14.940 --> 00:25:15.520\ James Franklin: Honestly. 269\ 00:25:15.520 --> 00:25:26.680\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And what we always recommend to people to do is that when they're making adjustments like this, you zoom in as far as you can, because it's so much easier to do on a big picture. There you go. 270\ 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:31.390\ James Franklin: There you go. So now you can pull it to where you want it. And I can be more accurate. 271\ 00:25:31.550 --> 00:25:32.390\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. 272\ 00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:35.110\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. So, the thing to do… 273\ 00:25:35.110 --> 00:25:35.790\ James Franklin: Going… 274\ 00:25:35.790 --> 00:25:41.969\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you've made these changes, don't forget to save on the bottom left, so that you don't lose everything you've just done. 275\ 00:25:42.500 --> 00:25:47.480\ James Franklin: Brilliant. And then can I go in and… Set it. 276\ 00:25:47.930 --> 00:25:59.060\ James Franklin: the same standard as I've been doing elsewhere, so I could call it, I don't know, lakes, or I could categorize it as lakes or ponds, or I could… or is it always just gonna be… 277\ 00:25:59.060 --> 00:26:07.670\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, this might be a good time to say, perhaps you need a… an extra field or column called state, sorry, Category. 278\ 00:26:08.020 --> 00:26:13.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you'd have a category for a lake and a category for a recreation ground or a playground. 279\ 00:26:13.270 --> 00:26:15.180\ James Franklin: Okay. 280\ 00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:15.990\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… 281\ 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.270\ James Franklin: Well, I can go in and add those later, so… 282\ 00:26:19.270 --> 00:26:24.699\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, let's just cover it whilst we're here, because I think it's probably useful to you and to Jean-Pierre. 283\ 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:29.439\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, okay. The others are all wondering how on earth they're going to get out of this session. 284\ 00:26:30.810 --> 00:26:31.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… 285\ 00:26:31.740 --> 00:26:40.859\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you, now go up to the top right underneath my photograph, James, you need to move that out of the way. 286\ 00:26:41.850 --> 00:26:45.620\ James Franklin: I don't want to be rude, but how do I get your photograph away. 287\ 00:26:45.620 --> 00:26:46.770\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go. 288\ 00:26:47.900 --> 00:26:48.879\ James Franklin: There you go. 289\ 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.050\ Retired Clerk: We've been asking that for a long time. 290\ 00:26:51.050 --> 00:26:57.459\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank you very much. If you go to your little cogwheel in the top right corner. 291\ 00:26:57.750 --> 00:26:59.930\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on Administration. 292\ 00:27:00.430 --> 00:27:06.940\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then you'll get a nice big white blank screen, which will fill up as the data comes down from the internet with your test. 293\ 00:27:07.150 --> 00:27:12.000\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you now click on that once to highlight it, Just… just click on it. 294\ 00:27:12.130 --> 00:27:14.810\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, and now click on the pencil. 295\ 00:27:15.150 --> 00:27:18.679\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because you're going to edit now the structure of your layer. 296\ 00:27:19.430 --> 00:27:20.030\ James Franklin: Oh, okay. 297\ 00:27:20.030 --> 00:27:24.309\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're going to add another column, so click on the plus sign at the top right. 298\ 00:27:25.610 --> 00:27:29.329\ James Franklin: Yes. And re-change its name to Category, say. 299\ 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:31.990\ James Franklin: Yeah. 300\ 00:27:31.990 --> 00:27:36.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Second row down, change the name from name to Category? 301\ 00:27:37.450 --> 00:27:39.890\ James Franklin: Change it to Category. 302\ 00:27:39.890 --> 00:27:43.109\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, you see where it says name in the middle column, second row. 303\ 00:27:43.110 --> 00:27:44.730\ James Franklin: It's… yes. 304\ 00:27:44.730 --> 00:27:46.640\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Change the word name to category. 305\ 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:54.220\ James Franklin: I suppose would best be… Hello? There we go. 306\ 00:28:01.270 --> 00:28:02.210\ James Franklin: Right. 307\ 00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:04.130\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on Save in the bottom right. 308\ 00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:16.229\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, now click on the little globe in the middle of the three icons on the top right. 309\ 00:28:16.830 --> 00:28:19.479\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. Piggyback to maps, yeah. 310\ 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:27.450\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now, if you go into your parish layers, And click on your test. 311\ 00:28:30.070 --> 00:28:35.400\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And… You might need to, zoom in a bit, because it's a bit small now. 312\ 00:28:38.020 --> 00:28:39.430\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click anywhere in there. 313\ 00:28:39.430 --> 00:28:39.820\ James Franklin: That's mad. 314\ 00:28:39.820 --> 00:28:42.320\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click anywhere in the red box. 315\ 00:28:43.290 --> 00:28:44.189\ James Franklin: There we go. 316\ 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:53.539\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That brings the record up. Now go into test. Now, now you can go in… oh, you're on the wrong record. You're in the parish record now, so… yeah, go to the test one. 317\ 00:28:54.360 --> 00:28:55.219\ James Franklin: Not like that. 318\ 00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:57.190\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the pencil to edit. 319\ 00:28:58.630 --> 00:28:59.210\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sounds good. 320\ 00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:00.930\ James Franklin: Edit. 321\ 00:29:00.930 --> 00:29:02.960\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into category and make it a lake. 322\ 00:29:06.040 --> 00:29:06.999\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and say. 323\ 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:07.860\ James Franklin: Confidence. 324\ 00:29:08.830 --> 00:29:16.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, we want to style this to make it look like everything else you've done, so if you click on the X at the top to close down the editor. 325\ 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:19.040\ James Franklin: Yes. 326\ 00:29:19.040 --> 00:29:22.660\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Only… click on the tick at the end of the word test. 327\ 00:29:24.130 --> 00:29:27.089\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that's right. And then go into style. 328\ 00:29:29.530 --> 00:29:30.570\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then… 329\ 00:29:30.910 --> 00:29:39.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Assuming that you want to, have different colors for different things depending upon their category, you want to change in the left-hand column 330\ 00:29:40.330 --> 00:29:45.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Where it says Style Type, click on it there and change it to class-based. 331\ 00:29:46.870 --> 00:29:55.010\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Class-based? Yeah. Go into the class column and change it from name to category. 332\ 00:29:57.130 --> 00:30:04.169\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright, and if you want to enable, I would click it on Name, So… If you want to… 333\ 00:30:04.970 --> 00:30:08.579\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So click on the little down arrow and select name, right? 334\ 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:15.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you… that's… you're done with that first column now. In the middle column, under where the words Classes. 335\ 00:30:16.730 --> 00:30:23.079\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Your lake is going to show up as a red square, but if you'd like it to show up as a blue square, click on the color. 336\ 00:30:24.300 --> 00:30:28.000\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you get a choice of whatever color you'd like to choose for your lake. 337\ 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:28.540\ James Franklin: Oops. 338\ 00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:30.650\ James Franklin: Let's be turquoise, why not? 339\ 00:30:30.650 --> 00:30:33.259\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Of course, all town, lakes. 340\ 00:30:33.260 --> 00:30:34.229\ tristram cary: All good legs. 341\ 00:30:34.230 --> 00:30:34.929\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, exactly. 342\ 00:30:34.930 --> 00:30:38.589\ James Franklin: All good legs, and a lot of our legs are probably close to this. 343\ 00:30:39.510 --> 00:30:42.680\ James Franklin: Let's go with the turquoise. 344\ 00:30:44.850 --> 00:30:45.410\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And… 345\ 00:30:45.410 --> 00:30:45.730\ James Franklin: Okay. 346\ 00:30:45.730 --> 00:30:55.009\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: For the moment, let's leave it at that for the moment. There are lots of other things you can do in styling, but let's not get too clever at this early stage, so just save that in the bottom right. 347\ 00:30:55.780 --> 00:31:02.940\ James Franklin: I was gonna say I definitely need more function over style at this stage, but, maybe when I'm presenting, it'd be nice to… 348\ 00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:15.450\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now you can see you've controlled the change… the color of the lake is now blue because it's a category of lake, and if you draw any other lakes anywhere else and turn them blue by the same token. 349\ 00:31:15.740 --> 00:31:18.839\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you've also got a label to say which lake you're talking about. 350\ 00:31:19.990 --> 00:31:21.910\ James Franklin: Okay, so if I… so… 351\ 00:31:22.870 --> 00:31:27.730\ James Franklin: The next one would be this one. If I made this lake Lake 2, it would… 352\ 00:31:27.730 --> 00:31:33.710\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you can just go ahead and do it. Just click on your little… yup, add a feature. 353\ 00:31:34.570 --> 00:31:36.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And go and do your thing. 354\ 00:31:38.170 --> 00:31:40.859\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Remember to click once and then draw the mouse. 355\ 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:44.449\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. 356\ 00:31:51.180 --> 00:31:54.710\ James Franklin: Probably wildly out of the lake boundary, but… 357\ 00:31:55.740 --> 00:32:00.079\ James Franklin: Well, we haven't actually decided what the lake boundary is yet, because we haven't… 358\ 00:32:00.080 --> 00:32:01.170\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, double-click on… 359\ 00:32:01.170 --> 00:32:01.490\ James Franklin: And… 360\ 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:05.399\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I would give it a name, and a category, and a save. 361\ 00:32:06.510 --> 00:32:08.039\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is, like, 2. 362\ 00:32:09.060 --> 00:32:11.049\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's also a lake, presumably. 363\ 00:32:13.050 --> 00:32:14.820\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you ought to save it. 364\ 00:32:15.150 --> 00:32:16.200\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Perfect. 365\ 00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:21.430\ James Franklin: Marvellous, that's exactly what I need to have. Yeah, so then I can do… 366\ 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:32.630\ James Franklin: So, one would assume that in the parish layer, my test layer could be Phase 1, and then I could do another parish layer that is Phase 2. 367\ 00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:34.389\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely, and you can have, like. 368\ 00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:35.409\ James Franklin: the other ideas. 369\ 00:32:35.410 --> 00:32:39.160\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Different colors and different ways of differentiating between them. 370\ 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:47.310\ tristram cary: Or you can make… or you can make phase another column, and color the phases. Phase 1 is green, phase two is blue. 371\ 00:32:47.630 --> 00:32:48.250\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 372\ 00:32:48.900 --> 00:32:50.799\ James Franklin: So they can all be on the same map. 373\ 00:32:54.130 --> 00:32:56.819\ James Franklin: Well, that definitely answers my question. 374\ 00:32:57.100 --> 00:33:05.470\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we'll let you take a breath there, James, and I'll just check if anyone else wants to say anything. Oh, I was going to say hello to Hazel, but I'm not sure if she's still there. 375\ 00:33:05.690 --> 00:33:06.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thanks for having me. 376\ 00:33:06.610 --> 00:33:07.340\ James Franklin: to a… 377\ 00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:11.080\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep, still there. Oh, and we've got Maruk. 378\ 00:33:12.890 --> 00:33:13.909\ James Franklin: There we are. 379\ 00:33:13.910 --> 00:33:20.290\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… Good afternoon, Hazel. Good to see you. 380\ 00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:23.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, and I'll say hello to Maruk, but I don't know… 381\ 00:33:25.210 --> 00:33:25.800\ tristram cary: Isn't it? 382\ 00:33:25.800 --> 00:33:27.340\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Coming in? 383\ 00:33:27.570 --> 00:33:29.580\ tristram cary: It's Helen, isn't it? Not Hazel? 384\ 00:33:29.580 --> 00:33:31.430\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Only to people who don't know her well. 385\ 00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:34.450\ tristram cary: Oh, sorry. I apologize. 386\ 00:33:34.630 --> 00:33:38.540\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, it's alright. Good afternoon. Whereabouts are you? 387\ 00:33:38.540 --> 00:33:43.550\ Mahrukh Awan: Good afternoon, thank you. Thank you for the session. I'm really enjoying the session and trying to learn Paresh online. 388\ 00:33:44.590 --> 00:33:46.360\ Mahrukh Awan: I'm a volunteer here. 389\ 00:33:46.360 --> 00:33:47.160\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 390\ 00:33:47.610 --> 00:33:51.219\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, have you seen it before, or is this brand new? 391\ 00:33:51.560 --> 00:33:58.790\ Mahrukh Awan: I attended a session two weeks, 2 or 3 weeks before, and this is my second session I'm attending. I'm working as a volunteer 392\ 00:33:58.990 --> 00:34:01.300\ Mahrukh Awan: With Blackbird Leeds Parish Council. 393\ 00:34:02.290 --> 00:34:03.080\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 394\ 00:34:03.320 --> 00:34:04.000\ Mahrukh Awan: Yes. 395\ 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.600\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good to see you. Do you have any specific questions for us today that you'd like answered? 396\ 00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:21.880\ Mahrukh Awan: Well, I'm just learning at the moment, and I'm seeing how you're doing, because right now I don't have access, so I cannot practice at the moment, so if I have access to this website, then I'll be able to practice, and I can understand it in a better way. 397\ 00:34:21.889 --> 00:34:22.699\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 398\ 00:34:22.699 --> 00:34:23.389\ Mahrukh Awan: Yeah. 399\ 00:34:23.389 --> 00:34:30.379\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, let's switch over then to Jean-Pierre and say, how are you doing, and do you need any specific points answered? 400\ 00:34:31.570 --> 00:34:33.570\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Thank you. 401\ 00:34:33.980 --> 00:34:40.619\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I've been playing with this at the same time as you, showing how to make lakes. 402\ 00:34:40.940 --> 00:34:48.740\ Jean-Pierre Durand: We still have to put a lot of things in here, but, could I rely on the… 403\ 00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:53.490\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Land registry overlay, is that… is that accurate? 404\ 00:34:54.620 --> 00:34:59.529\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, it is. I mean, the land registry is not perfect. They do have errors. 405\ 00:34:59.530 --> 00:35:01.669\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Of course, the land registry itself, yes. 406\ 00:35:01.670 --> 00:35:04.430\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're very cooperative in changing things. 407\ 00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:08.799\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And they're very open to being told that 408\ 00:35:08.980 --> 00:35:11.440\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: The lines they've got there are not quite right. 409\ 00:35:11.990 --> 00:35:16.019\ Jean-Pierre Durand: This might not be a question for you, but if I found a little white box… 410\ 00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:22.420\ Jean-Pierre Durand: With no number in it. I presume that is a record that Landridge doesn't have. 411\ 00:35:23.140 --> 00:35:26.829\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Would you like to share your screen? Are you in a position to share it with us? 412\ 00:35:26.830 --> 00:35:29.469\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I… 413\ 00:35:30.100 --> 00:35:30.710\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: True. 414\ 00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:34.319\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I'm using more than one device, so I'll tell you what. 415\ 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:34.910\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh my god. 416\ 00:35:34.910 --> 00:35:40.019\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I'll quickly see if I can… because my screen is big. 417\ 00:35:40.020 --> 00:35:44.150\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You do get the choice in Zoom of going to Windows 2. 418\ 00:35:44.870 --> 00:35:48.060\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you've got two screens, it'll say go to the second screen. 419\ 00:35:48.080 --> 00:35:55.200\ Jean-Pierre Durand: So, I've got two screens plus a device that I'm using for this, so it's additional things. 420\ 00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:56.100\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: rats. 421\ 00:35:56.100 --> 00:36:01.640\ Jean-Pierre Durand: What I'll quickly do is I'll just go… I'll click on the link, you may have to let me in separately, 422\ 00:36:02.340 --> 00:36:10.779\ Jean-Pierre Durand: And then I can share the screen. But in the meantime, while I figure this out, I don't know if someone else wants to go, and then… I don't want to keep people waiting for this. 423\ 00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:15.520\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you'd be amazed at how breathlessly we're all waiting for you to join us. 424\ 00:36:16.770 --> 00:36:23.090\ tristram cary: Graham, while we're waiting, I'm right in saying that you can copy a polygon from one layer to another, aren't I? 425\ 00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:24.390\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You are. 426\ 00:36:24.390 --> 00:36:30.899\ tristram cary: So if James wanted to copy a polygon rather than draw it afresh, he could do that from another layer. 427\ 00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:33.799\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And all that you say is true. 428\ 00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:36.820\ Stuart Bacon: If the drawing… if the. 429\ 00:36:36.820 --> 00:36:37.590\ tristram cary: Perhaps you'd accidentally. 430\ 00:36:37.590 --> 00:36:38.610\ Stuart Bacon: don't exist. 431\ 00:36:41.130 --> 00:36:50.800\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I wondered if you wanted to say something other than lakes, because presumably lakes are each identifiable of being different shapes and sizes and things. 432\ 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.600\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Recording in progress. 433\ 00:36:53.940 --> 00:36:58.049\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Jean-pierre is back very promptly. 434\ 00:36:59.270 --> 00:37:02.849\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, I've, I've, so now you'll have two instances of me. 435\ 00:37:02.850 --> 00:37:04.119\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I do. 436\ 00:37:06.270 --> 00:37:07.040\ Jean-Pierre Durand: one. 437\ 00:37:07.860 --> 00:37:09.560\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Listen to camera shy. 438\ 00:37:09.750 --> 00:37:19.899\ Jean-Pierre Durand: There's nothing I can do about that. But what I can do now is potentially share the screen. So, I shall do share. 439\ 00:37:20.220 --> 00:37:22.560\ Jean-Pierre Durand: And then I need to choose Screen 1. 440\ 00:37:23.110 --> 00:37:24.080\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Click share. 441\ 00:37:24.930 --> 00:37:26.199\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Can people see me now? 442\ 00:37:26.570 --> 00:37:27.240\ tristram cary: Just about. 443\ 00:37:27.660 --> 00:37:32.630\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's on its way, you… let me go. And yes, you have the land registries on, and oh… 444\ 00:37:33.640 --> 00:37:37.809\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, the white squares that you're suggesting are the ones that they have no knowledge of. 445\ 00:37:38.470 --> 00:37:41.940\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, no digital knowledge anyway, I would assume. 446\ 00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:46.570\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, most of the white there tend to be roads, so they're the ones in the middle? 447\ 00:37:46.570 --> 00:37:47.720\ Jean-Pierre Durand: This big one here. 448\ 00:37:48.050 --> 00:37:49.269\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is that… 449\ 00:37:49.270 --> 00:37:55.760\ Jean-Pierre Durand: actually our playing fields, but it doesn't have a number in it. Like, if I zoom in, you'll see all of them have numbers. 450\ 00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:56.420\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 451\ 00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:58.969\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Zoom link to some title. 452\ 00:37:58.970 --> 00:37:59.500\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you… 453\ 00:37:59.500 --> 00:38:02.610\ Stuart Bacon: Do you know when you brought your playing field, Jean-Pierre? 454\ 00:38:02.900 --> 00:38:11.540\ Jean-Pierre Durand: So I, I must assume that this is pre-digitization with, with Land Registry. 455\ 00:38:11.890 --> 00:38:14.950\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I've been a parish councillor for 2 months. 456\ 00:38:15.340 --> 00:38:24.279\ Jean-Pierre Durand: So, and I'm the youngest one there, so I'm trying to make things a lot more digital and online and referenceable. 457\ 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:28.430\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I don't know if there… there's no archive, so we wouldn't have… 458\ 00:38:28.600 --> 00:38:30.619\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Physical deeds for any of this. 459\ 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.960\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I'm just wondering how one goes about… 460\ 00:38:34.610 --> 00:38:38.630\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Establishing, you know, which bits are… belong to whom. 461\ 00:38:38.630 --> 00:38:44.760\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me tell you about how you can work with the ones that are numbered. So if you zoom back in again. 462\ 00:38:45.010 --> 00:38:48.310\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on any one of the numbers, doesn't matter which. 463\ 00:38:49.620 --> 00:38:53.650\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And in your left column now, if you click on Cadastro Parcels. 464\ 00:38:53.990 --> 00:39:02.189\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: it'll come up with the record, and if you look at the number at the top under Inspire ID, you can copy that, so please do. 465\ 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.629\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now go down to the word link below, and click on the link to the right. 466\ 00:39:08.780 --> 00:39:10.989\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, and that takes you to… 467\ 00:39:10.990 --> 00:39:11.380\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Wow. 468\ 00:39:11.380 --> 00:39:14.370\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: buyer ID for the land registry. 469\ 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.049\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you can just paste in that number, there you go. 470\ 00:39:19.810 --> 00:39:21.979\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're obviously on the ball for this. 471\ 00:39:23.410 --> 00:39:23.819\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Thank you. 472\ 00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:29.809\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: The record that comes up, if you scroll down now, It tells you… 473\ 00:39:29.970 --> 00:39:32.419\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: what documents you've got, so you need to go down… 474\ 00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:32.870\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes. 475\ 00:39:32.870 --> 00:39:37.420\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… There are documents, 476\ 00:39:37.730 --> 00:39:40.080\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can't get to see them or do anything with. 477\ 00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:40.750\ Jean-Pierre Durand: start paying. 478\ 00:39:40.750 --> 00:39:42.040\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Without paying your money. 479\ 00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:51.280\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes. And this is very useful, because historic… like, if you… if we search the government's portal directly, 480\ 00:39:51.680 --> 00:39:53.799\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Takes you a long time to get to here. 481\ 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:58.520\ Jean-Pierre Durand: It's… it… exactly, because you can't find… you don't know what the number is, and… 482\ 00:39:58.520 --> 00:39:59.050\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. 483\ 00:39:59.050 --> 00:40:03.950\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Not everything has an address or a postcode, so this is really… 484\ 00:40:04.050 --> 00:40:08.590\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Awesome. The only issue is we cannot search this. 485\ 00:40:08.590 --> 00:40:17.199\ John Roberts: The simple answer to that is, if land or property has not been registered with the land registry, you will see it as that white 486\ 00:40:17.490 --> 00:40:18.639\ John Roberts: White square. 487\ 00:40:18.640 --> 00:40:23.919\ Jean-Pierre Durand: That is what I'm expecting. The alarming thing is, if it's not registered with Land Registry. 488\ 00:40:24.100 --> 00:40:28.149\ Jean-Pierre Durand: How does one prove ownership without a title? 489\ 00:40:29.970 --> 00:40:30.670\ James Franklin: So we… 490\ 00:40:30.890 --> 00:40:33.890\ Andrew Clegg: What happens if you click on the white square? You don't get. 491\ 00:40:35.680 --> 00:40:41.569\ James Franklin: We've just had an allotment transferred over to us as part of a building development, and that was… 492\ 00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:52.979\ James Franklin: In essence, in scrub land, as in it was never parceled up for… with the land registry for plots for houses, community services. 493\ 00:40:53.560 --> 00:40:59.099\ James Franklin: even roads, it wasn't even linked in with the highway system, so it didn't exist. We had to… 494\ 00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:01.230\ James Franklin: get it. 495\ 00:41:02.310 --> 00:41:11.859\ James Franklin: registered with a land agency, mainly because we wanted standpipes for water on it, and the water board won't connect up water unless you've got a postcode, or you've got a… 496\ 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:21.879\ James Franklin: some sort of registration for the land, you need somewhere to bill it to, essentially. So we've had this problem. We just approached 497\ 00:41:22.070 --> 00:41:27.830\ James Franklin: Our legal team, and got them to get it registered, and now it is. 498\ 00:41:29.340 --> 00:41:31.780\ Jean-Pierre Durand: You'll fancy having a legal team. 499\ 00:41:32.550 --> 00:41:33.190\ James Franklin: Wow. 500\ 00:41:33.190 --> 00:41:35.150\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I'm not even sure we have that. 501\ 00:41:35.150 --> 00:41:47.530\ James Franklin: So, well, we… we don't have our own legal team. We have a legal team because we have developments being built within our parish boundaries that are actually being built by Eastleigh Borough Council, so… 502\ 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.249\ James Franklin: We, we, we kind of have a… 503\ 00:41:52.000 --> 00:42:06.599\ James Franklin: access to that in regards to the development. If it was just, you know, down in Pubbrook Meadow, which is our kind of woodland area, there was a parcel of land that was randomly not belonging to anyone, it would probably be more difficult, but as it's. 504\ 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:07.220\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah. 505\ 00:42:07.220 --> 00:42:13.300\ James Franklin: as we're with the development… in a development stage, we had access to that. But I believe… 506\ 00:42:14.590 --> 00:42:21.609\ James Franklin: there must… you must have some sort of historical records. We've had things going back where we've got… so we've got a, 507\ 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.129\ James Franklin: Heritage Pavilion, we don't actually have any records 508\ 00:42:25.790 --> 00:42:35.020\ James Franklin: suggesting that we own the Heritage Pavilion, but we have got a heritage Status by Historical Archive. 509\ 00:42:35.630 --> 00:42:53.139\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, and I think this is the thing, where does one… because the land registry typically will only… if they have a copy of a deed or ownership information, it will be online. So if it's not online, it must mean that they do not know… 510\ 00:42:53.720 --> 00:42:59.799\ Stuart Bacon: who the owner is. The caveat to what you're saying, 511\ 00:43:00.230 --> 00:43:04.670\ Stuart Bacon: Land Registry online documents only go back to the early 60s. 512\ 00:43:04.670 --> 00:43:06.219\ Jean-Pierre Durand: 70s. Yeah. 513\ 00:43:06.220 --> 00:43:09.879\ Stuart Bacon: So, if it was registered before the 1970s. 514\ 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:10.290\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes. 515\ 00:43:10.290 --> 00:43:27.779\ Stuart Bacon: The deeds may well exist, but not be, sort of, with the, the land registry in a, sort of, format that they can, put online and do anything with. Exactly. So, the wisest thing I would say for you to do at the moment 516\ 00:43:27.790 --> 00:43:31.830\ Stuart Bacon: It's potentially to enlist the help of… 517\ 00:43:32.170 --> 00:43:42.220\ Stuart Bacon: a solicitor, a land conveyor, solicitor, who might be able to, sort of, seek out 518\ 00:43:42.550 --> 00:43:44.179\ Stuart Bacon: Whether there were any… 519\ 00:43:44.910 --> 00:43:58.890\ Stuart Bacon: Nearby, sort of, solicitors with you, within your remit, whatever, who have their details, and may hold the deeds for you, which might be, sort of, a quicker, easier way of resolving the problem. 520\ 00:43:58.890 --> 00:44:05.070\ tristram cary: But Stuart, I'm not sure you even need a solicitor, because I remember that Land Registry used to have a sort of inquiry service. 521\ 00:44:05.090 --> 00:44:23.669\ tristram cary: Because they were trying to get all the… you know, they were trying to make sure that all the parcels of land did have ownership and, you know, were properly registered. And I… didn't they have a… couldn't you ask a question and say, you know, I've got this… send them a screenshot of it, and say, do you have any physical records of this parcel? 522\ 00:44:25.340 --> 00:44:32.739\ Stuart Bacon: You're welcome to try that, I mean, it may work, it's just, yeah, I was thinking, sort of, the… 523\ 00:44:33.650 --> 00:44:40.440\ Stuart Bacon: the way Jean-Pierre was speaking, he might want assistance in completing the registry documentation. 524\ 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.170\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, I think, I think… 525\ 00:44:43.530 --> 00:45:02.040\ Jean-Pierre Durand: what my concern is, it's very obvious that this white bit here, and I think I'm missing an ordinance survey overlay. There should be a map or something that you can actually see a road and other boundaries. I think I might have turned something off. But… which one is it? Do you know? 526\ 00:45:02.080 --> 00:45:05.680\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you come… go into the, first one. 527\ 00:45:06.390 --> 00:45:12.379\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Individual and turn off the ones you've got ticked there. Turn off those. 528\ 00:45:13.060 --> 00:45:20.009\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And that one. Now go down to the next, green collection, into that then, and select Standard. 529\ 00:45:20.180 --> 00:45:21.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: the first one. 530\ 00:45:22.080 --> 00:45:25.430\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Oh, perfect, thank you so much. Yeah, so this… 531\ 00:45:25.430 --> 00:45:32.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've got one other point for you, Jean-Pierre, which might be very helpful, which is, if you, 532\ 00:45:32.970 --> 00:45:35.359\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go up to… 533\ 00:45:36.620 --> 00:45:42.449\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: the columns of the… at the top line, which are the menu columns, and look at the one called print. 534\ 00:45:43.570 --> 00:45:50.670\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you just click on that, and just go… for the right now, just go down to the bottom and click on the word print. 535\ 00:45:52.660 --> 00:45:57.029\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it takes a few seconds, because it's doing it all up in the cloud for you. 536\ 00:45:57.200 --> 00:46:01.259\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But when that circle finishes, you can now scroll down a little bit. 537\ 00:46:02.780 --> 00:46:06.400\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you scroll down the left-hand column, Yeah, there you go. 538\ 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:06.720\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Huh. 539\ 00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:09.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on the arrow to the right, that one. 540\ 00:46:10.410 --> 00:46:20.229\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now what you… you're gonna see is the printout, and you can… you could send that to somebody as a URL, for instance, or sorry, a PDF. 541\ 00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:21.010\ Jean-Pierre Durand: A PDF. 542\ 00:46:21.010 --> 00:46:23.340\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then they know what you're talking about. 543\ 00:46:23.870 --> 00:46:25.650\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, this is perfect. 544\ 00:46:25.650 --> 00:46:36.479\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the other thing that can be helpful is to, do the same thing, but turn the land registry line or layer off, and turn the post office, 545\ 00:46:36.770 --> 00:46:44.240\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Postal code layer on, and then they can see the postal codes that you're talking about, because that might help them identify something as well. 546\ 00:46:44.860 --> 00:46:48.749\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go down, go down through the brown layers to addresses. 547\ 00:46:50.050 --> 00:46:56.600\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on that, and go into postal code. You might want to turn off the land registry layers, they get a bit confused if they're both on at the same time. 548\ 00:46:56.600 --> 00:46:58.559\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Oh, I see. 549\ 00:46:58.560 --> 00:47:01.370\ Stuart Bacon: Turn the postcodes on now, while you've got it. 550\ 00:47:01.370 --> 00:47:01.850\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 551\ 00:47:01.850 --> 00:47:08.539\ Jean-Pierre Durand: And then land registry, or… Oh, that's okay, I can still see how that works, yes, so NG32. Understood. 552\ 00:47:09.050 --> 00:47:10.000\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Okay. 553\ 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:10.540\ Stuart Bacon: Yeah. 554\ 00:47:10.870 --> 00:47:11.830\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that, dot. 555\ 00:47:11.830 --> 00:47:28.600\ Jean-Pierre Durand: It helps a lot, actually. Thank you. Yes, because this is our Village Green, and has been for 600 years, but according to Land Registry, it isn't. So, I just want to make sure no unscrupulous developer decides that this now belongs to them. 556\ 00:47:28.600 --> 00:47:29.300\ tristram cary: Good question. 557\ 00:47:29.300 --> 00:47:36.529\ Stuart Bacon: In terms of your Village Green, that should be registered with your, county council. 558\ 00:47:36.970 --> 00:47:44.090\ Stuart Bacon: And they should hold record of that as a… if it's a registered village green or not. 559\ 00:47:44.220 --> 00:47:50.630\ Stuart Bacon: So you could check their records, to see whether they, sort of, have the detail for you, which might help you. 560\ 00:47:50.630 --> 00:47:55.180\ Jean-Pierre Durand: be able to sort of establish, the deed situation, or whatever that might. Thank you. 561\ 00:47:55.180 --> 00:47:55.940\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: students. 562\ 00:47:55.940 --> 00:47:57.670\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, the lowest… 563\ 00:47:57.670 --> 00:48:03.309\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: of the brown layers on your screen at the moment is Lincolnshire County Council. 564\ 00:48:03.450 --> 00:48:05.810\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You… gone a bit too far. 565\ 00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:06.730\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Oh. 566\ 00:48:07.060 --> 00:48:07.970\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 567\ 00:48:08.070 --> 00:48:09.879\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I meant on the screen you're actually on. 568\ 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:10.330\ Retired Clerk: Sure, right? 569\ 00:48:10.330 --> 00:48:12.890\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Scroll down, like, go up, go up… 570\ 00:48:12.890 --> 00:48:14.600\ Stuart Bacon: Oh, I'll have a couple. 571\ 00:48:14.600 --> 00:48:15.250\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. 572\ 00:48:15.250 --> 00:48:16.059\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Thank you. 573\ 00:48:16.060 --> 00:48:18.710\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just click on there and see what they export to you. 574\ 00:48:18.710 --> 00:48:19.320\ Retired Clerk: It may be… 575\ 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:20.710\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 576\ 00:48:22.570 --> 00:48:23.710\ Retired Clerk: This girl died. 577\ 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:25.520\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, nothing there. 578\ 00:48:25.520 --> 00:48:30.810\ James Franklin: Just trying to find old and strange things that… 579\ 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:40.189\ James Franklin: exist in the very weird village of Botley, that actually the Borough Council and the County Council archives 580\ 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.380\ James Franklin: held, because we had… we installed a path, and someone had… 581\ 00:48:44.950 --> 00:48:53.839\ James Franklin: Complain that we were too close to their property, but actually, whilst looking through the archives, it turned out that their property had had a bit of a land grab of 4.5 meters. 582\ 00:48:55.380 --> 00:49:03.960\ Retired Clerk: So their property was essentially four and a half meters longer than everyone else's, for absolutely no good reason other than moving a fence. 583\ 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:10.519\ James Franklin: So… but I didn't… we couldn't find that information until I went to Winchester County… Winchester, to Hampshire County Council. 584\ 00:49:10.860 --> 00:49:16.510\ James Franklin: And looked in the archive and found that record from, like, 1918, when they… 585\ 00:49:16.510 --> 00:49:18.159\ Jean-Pierre Durand: What's an example of that as well. 586\ 00:49:19.010 --> 00:49:19.540\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, exactly. 587\ 00:49:19.540 --> 00:49:20.659\ Jean-Pierre Durand: I don't know if you can see this. 588\ 00:49:20.660 --> 00:49:21.380\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, of course. 589\ 00:49:22.240 --> 00:49:24.250\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, people have decided they're front gone. 590\ 00:49:24.250 --> 00:49:27.209\ James Franklin: Register it, or you can do it and purchase. 591\ 00:49:27.580 --> 00:49:28.110\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes. 592\ 00:49:28.110 --> 00:49:28.560\ James Franklin: You could. 593\ 00:49:28.560 --> 00:49:29.690\ Jean-Pierre Durand: During a purchase convey. 594\ 00:49:29.690 --> 00:49:37.319\ James Franklin: land block. Yes, but… If you… if you don't have the record for it, and someone's property just appears 595\ 00:49:37.610 --> 00:49:43.969\ James Franklin: Bigger than everyone else's, and the last time an ornament survey map was drawn, it was drawn that way. 596\ 00:49:43.970 --> 00:49:47.730\ Jean-Pierre Durand: We had to go back to the original plans of. 597\ 00:49:47.730 --> 00:49:58.619\ James Franklin: 1918, I think it was, to see where the buildings… where the plots were originally, but that data isn't available unless you go into a dusty old book and find it. Yes. 598\ 00:49:58.970 --> 00:50:10.030\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it depends on where you are, because I noticed that, A, there's very good news for you, Jean-Pierre, in the fact that Lincolnshire County Council is exporting data. 599\ 00:50:10.430 --> 00:50:20.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because a lot of them don't export any, so this is very nice to know that you get some. The other thing to do is to notice that they're not exporting very much to you. 600\ 00:50:20.260 --> 00:50:20.820\ Jean-Pierre Durand: No. 601\ 00:50:20.820 --> 00:50:28.169\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, just to give you a… something… some context, If you are, in… 602\ 00:50:28.420 --> 00:50:34.849\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: the area of the country known as Bath and northeast Somerset, they export 400 layers of information. 603\ 00:50:34.850 --> 00:50:35.700\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Wow. 604\ 00:50:35.700 --> 00:50:50.600\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lincolnshire is giving you about 10, but because they've started, they've made a start, the chances are that you can probably persuade somebody just to open up the archives for anything they've got digitally stored, they should be able to export to you along with everything else. 605\ 00:50:51.020 --> 00:50:53.640\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which would save you a huge amount of time. 606\ 00:50:53.640 --> 00:50:58.650\ Jean-Pierre Durand: And would they… how would they export this? What is the actual way of doing this? Do they… would they know? 607\ 00:50:58.650 --> 00:51:02.309\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have you… have you come across the help system yet in Parish Online? 608\ 00:51:03.220 --> 00:51:10.330\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No. So, okay, go up to the little menu at the top, marked Help. A little bit of a giveaway, really. Go into… 609\ 00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:17.520\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into Knowledge Base, And… If you wait for it to come up. 610\ 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:23.630\ Retired Clerk: Mushroom chooses… 611\ 00:51:23.630 --> 00:51:27.299\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. If you go to where it says Search Articles at the top. 612\ 00:51:28.990 --> 00:51:31.439\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, clicking the… type cancel data. 613\ 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:33.550\ Retired Clerk: How much did we put in last year. 614\ 00:51:34.330 --> 00:51:39.930\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? And then if you follow that, it gives you all the instructions on what to do. 615\ 00:51:41.090 --> 00:51:45.460\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the beauty of it is, is that once you've gone through this. 616\ 00:51:45.710 --> 00:51:51.419\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: then it is… you'd be astonished at how fast it is for Paris Online to pick up the data. 617\ 00:51:51.420 --> 00:51:52.850\ Jean-Pierre Durand: This is incredible. Wow. 618\ 00:51:52.850 --> 00:51:57.720\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're really talking about just a couple of seconds to pick the data up. It's astonishing. 619\ 00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:10.049\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it really is fabulous. So, go through the steps there, because Paris Online won't touch you until you've actually gone through those steps, but having done that, then you'll find that they're incredibly supportive. 620\ 00:52:10.510 --> 00:52:12.679\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Thank you. Thank you, this is very useful. 621\ 00:52:12.810 --> 00:52:13.380\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup. 622\ 00:52:13.770 --> 00:52:15.060\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's what we do. 623\ 00:52:18.470 --> 00:52:24.899\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's just check with anybody else that we're not all biting their fingers, desperate to pass on some words of wisdom. 624\ 00:52:24.900 --> 00:52:25.700\ Retired Clerk: Word. 625\ 00:52:25.700 --> 00:52:30.970\ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Just on the last point, Parish Online is quick, but your councils. 626\ 00:52:30.970 --> 00:52:31.820\ Jean-Pierre Durand: No. 627\ 00:52:31.820 --> 00:52:32.910\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No. 628\ 00:52:32.910 --> 00:52:33.410\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yo. 629\ 00:52:33.410 --> 00:52:39.660\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that's very true. It all depends on individuals. If you can find the right person. 630\ 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.210\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it makes all the difference in the world. 631\ 00:52:42.890 --> 00:52:47.179\ James Franklin: Is it slightly easier if they share some, but not all? 632\ 00:52:47.710 --> 00:52:51.790\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So get them to share the rest. Exactly. Yes, you've got… 633\ 00:52:51.790 --> 00:52:52.560\ James Franklin: I have. 634\ 00:52:52.980 --> 00:52:57.530\ James Franklin: biodiversity information from Hampshire and nothing else. 635\ 00:52:58.060 --> 00:53:07.440\ James Franklin: But I'm assuming someone's requested that at some point, or they've offered that at some point. So the gateway's open, I just need to request more, and then it should… 636\ 00:53:07.560 --> 00:53:09.090\ James Franklin: fly them down. 637\ 00:53:09.090 --> 00:53:10.020\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's right. 638\ 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:22.020\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a wonderful nuclear option, which I'm still waiting for somebody to take it up at their local council, but there is legislation that says they must share public information for… 639\ 00:53:22.020 --> 00:53:22.530\ Jean-Pierre Durand: you. 640\ 00:53:22.530 --> 00:53:24.540\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: In the most convenient way. 641\ 00:53:25.100 --> 00:53:26.010\ Retired Clerk: And… 642\ 00:53:26.110 --> 00:53:39.410\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're surrounded by a bunch of mild-mannered and peaceful counsellors, but if you have someone who's a bit more aggressive, then they should go and say, please do this, or we shall have at you. 643\ 00:53:40.240 --> 00:53:41.740\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm just waiting desperately. 644\ 00:53:41.740 --> 00:53:43.390\ Retired Clerk: For someone to have at them. 645\ 00:53:44.670 --> 00:53:47.609\ James Franklin: Because in my case, it'd be really interesting to get 646\ 00:53:48.190 --> 00:53:54.049\ James Franklin: planning data into Parish Online, because we're going through a massive 647\ 00:53:54.750 --> 00:54:07.119\ James Franklin: if you were to think of Botley Parish as 100%, 70% of that is new development. Yes. So, we're getting such a massive development that actually being able to see planning on parish online would be really useful. 648\ 00:54:07.120 --> 00:54:13.709\ Jean-Pierre Durand: We do appear to have planning on here, which is… which I… which is quite useful. I can show you what it looks like if you wanted to see. 649\ 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:15.770\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Appreciate it. 650\ 00:54:16.210 --> 00:54:19.229\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Now I need to figure out how to share the screen again, huh? 651\ 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:28.899\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, James, just to give you a slight caveat, so the planning information that's held at Council level. 652\ 00:54:29.390 --> 00:54:34.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Tends to be almost so murky as to be useless to us. 653\ 00:54:34.710 --> 00:54:35.580\ James Franklin: Okay. 654\ 00:54:35.580 --> 00:54:42.190\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you do get a huge amount of information, and the problem is, it probably goes back many years. 655\ 00:54:42.560 --> 00:54:56.379\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the filtering system in Paris Online only filters on one level at a time, which is not efficient. You want to be able to do year and geography and something else and so forth, but at the moment, we aren't there yet. 656\ 00:54:59.080 --> 00:54:59.600\ James Franklin: Oh, okay. 657\ 00:55:00.240 --> 00:55:03.879\ Jean-Pierre Durand: So this shows… And then I presume there's a… 658\ 00:55:08.120 --> 00:55:10.769\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you put this in yourself? 659\ 00:55:10.770 --> 00:55:14.519\ Jean-Pierre Durand: No, this was luckily, so we have a, 660\ 00:55:15.010 --> 00:55:24.160\ Jean-Pierre Durand: We have both Lincolnshire County Council as well as South Khivan District Council. Right. South Kostehen are responsible for, 661\ 00:55:24.380 --> 00:55:26.550\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Planning applications in our area. 662\ 00:55:26.550 --> 00:55:28.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Admission, and that's how you… 663\ 00:55:28.260 --> 00:55:28.889\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, yes, that's true. 664\ 00:55:28.890 --> 00:55:31.239\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, that's very useful indeed. 665\ 00:55:31.630 --> 00:55:31.950\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah. 666\ 00:55:31.950 --> 00:55:33.350\ Retired Clerk: That's not wordable. 667\ 00:55:33.350 --> 00:55:39.330\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so it's another thing for James, that it all depends which category area you're in. 668\ 00:55:39.510 --> 00:55:40.140\ Retired Clerk: Beautiful. 669\ 00:55:40.140 --> 00:55:47.700\ James Franklin: We're in that testy period at the moment that our local borough Council, Eastley Borough Council, in 2008, won't exist. 670\ 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:56.590\ James Franklin: Yes. So, their willingness to do a lot of things is fairly slim, because they won't exist soon. 671\ 00:55:57.190 --> 00:55:58.010\ James Franklin: So… 672\ 00:55:58.010 --> 00:55:59.219\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Oh, the same here. 673\ 00:55:59.490 --> 00:56:01.909\ Jean-Pierre Durand: With the whole restructuring, yeah. 674\ 00:56:02.370 --> 00:56:03.130\ James Franklin: Yeah. 675\ 00:56:07.160 --> 00:56:09.270\ James Franklin: But we're getting there, we just, you know… 676\ 00:56:10.310 --> 00:56:10.980\ Retired Clerk: It's… 677\ 00:56:11.460 --> 00:56:16.009\ James Franklin: It's just… it's an interesting time, isn't it? Interesting time. 678\ 00:56:16.240 --> 00:56:18.100\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I, I feel, 679\ 00:56:18.240 --> 00:56:24.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm very aware of the fact that we promised two people that we'd answer their questions, even though they haven't shown up today. 680\ 00:56:25.620 --> 00:56:35.530\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, we need to… Who are those? That's David, is it? David is one of them, and the other one is a lady from one of the other councils of. 681\ 00:56:36.080 --> 00:56:38.259\ tristram cary: Hang on a second, I can look it up for you. 682\ 00:56:40.160 --> 00:56:42.879\ James Franklin: I don't know, this is a name and shame time. 683\ 00:56:43.140 --> 00:56:47.020\ James Franklin: He didn't turn up. He didn't turn up, who are you? 684\ 00:56:47.020 --> 00:56:56.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, David is from a small, little tiny village in Hampshire, and Claire is from Marmsbury. 685\ 00:56:56.770 --> 00:57:02.910\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And what Claire needs is a list of all the commercial buildings in her area. 686\ 00:57:03.330 --> 00:57:07.010\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I'm gonna ask if Stuart can walk us through that. 687\ 00:57:07.600 --> 00:57:09.539\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just because you're looking very bored. 688\ 00:57:09.540 --> 00:57:15.660\ Stuart Bacon: No, I'm sorry, no, apologies if I'm, giving that, negative impression. 689\ 00:57:15.660 --> 00:57:16.770\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, no, no, no, she's. 690\ 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:23.280\ Stuart Bacon: Sorry, I'm just, pulling up the stuff so I've got the right thing on the screen. 691\ 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.179\ tristram cary: James, can I just ask, James, are you new to Botley? 692\ 00:57:27.200 --> 00:57:34.240\ James Franklin: Exactly tomorrow, while I've been in position as the operations manager for one month. 693\ 00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:35.369\ tristram cary: One more minute. 694\ 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:43.800\ James Franklin: But it's my understanding that I didn't really exist before, as in there wasn't… my position wasn't… 695\ 00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:45.330\ tristram cary: Really, absolutely. 696\ 00:57:46.010 --> 00:57:49.139\ James Franklin: an entity before, so. 697\ 00:57:49.380 --> 00:57:51.049\ tristram cary: So you work with Chris Cooper? 698\ 00:57:51.900 --> 00:57:52.680\ James Franklin: Yes. 699\ 00:57:52.680 --> 00:57:54.230\ tristram cary: Yeah, brilliant. Good. 700\ 00:57:56.770 --> 00:58:00.919\ James Franklin: I'm his Swiss Army penknife. I deal with land and buildings and… 701\ 00:58:01.330 --> 00:58:06.759\ James Franklin: all the other things that… he doesn't… he's not a fan of trees, so I'm taking them on as well. 702\ 00:58:07.020 --> 00:58:09.150\ Stuart Bacon: Oh, you're gonna say you're tacking them out? 703\ 00:58:09.350 --> 00:58:09.920\ James Franklin: No. 704\ 00:58:10.520 --> 00:58:17.540\ James Franklin: No, not taking them out, but trying to… trying to calm the irrational fear of every given moment a tree might fall on something. 705\ 00:58:18.150 --> 00:58:18.600\ Stuart Bacon: Oh, okay. 706\ 00:58:18.600 --> 00:58:20.170\ James Franklin: It won't. 707\ 00:58:20.300 --> 00:58:32.640\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, just for context's sake, this example now is for the benefit of Claire from Malmesbury, so if she looks at our video after the session, she'll know that this is for her. 708\ 00:58:33.250 --> 00:58:39.990\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm quite happy for you to do the speaking, Stuart, if you'd like to be. 709\ 00:58:39.990 --> 00:58:46.589\ Stuart Bacon: Sorry, I was just letting, James finish. Yeah, no, so… Just going in now, 710\ 00:58:48.040 --> 00:58:55.429\ Stuart Bacon: Once logged in, you come down to Addresses, and the address base plus points 711\ 00:58:56.070 --> 00:59:07.619\ Stuart Bacon: Within that, we'll give you the ability to sort of see, differentiators between the different types of, 712\ 00:59:08.950 --> 00:59:18.510\ Stuart Bacon: building and whatever within your area. You've got, sort of, yeah, 7 options there that it delineates between. 713\ 00:59:18.640 --> 00:59:25.700\ Stuart Bacon: And if… Claire is looking for purely the commercial, is it? 714\ 00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:26.770\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 715\ 00:59:26.770 --> 00:59:30.659\ Stuart Bacon: Yep. So then we need to filter. 716\ 00:59:30.930 --> 00:59:34.460\ Stuart Bacon: The… the type. 717\ 00:59:40.050 --> 00:59:44.320\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think it's probably BLPU class or classification, one of those two. 718\ 00:59:46.420 --> 00:59:49.909\ Stuart Bacon: Which… they are PU class, sorry, yeah. 719\ 00:59:49.910 --> 00:59:50.720\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think so. 720\ 00:59:50.720 --> 00:59:53.030\ Stuart Bacon: Equals, and then… 721\ 00:59:53.030 --> 00:59:56.639\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Probably commercial. Oh, no, I think you need to go classification. 722\ 00:59:58.940 --> 01:00:02.059\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Next one down. Keep going down. Yep. 723\ 01:00:05.510 --> 01:00:09.609\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. So if you went to commercial, or are they all… 724\ 01:00:10.370 --> 01:00:11.739\ Stuart Bacon: That's wider than 7. 725\ 01:00:11.740 --> 01:00:14.780\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Much wider, isn't it? Yeah, maybe it's not gonna work… okay. 726\ 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:21.709\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, whilst you're playing around, let me look at some data and see if we can see what classification helps you. 727\ 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:24.980\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Put it up here. 728\ 01:00:27.040 --> 01:00:28.909\ Stuart Bacon: Hey, what's probably the easiest way. 729\ 01:00:51.710 --> 01:00:54.049\ tristram cary: I thought it was BLPU classification. 730\ 01:00:56.090 --> 01:00:57.930\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 731\ 01:00:58.160 --> 01:01:07.090\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: On my BRPQO testification, I don't think you've got… Discussion. 732\ 01:01:07.090 --> 01:01:08.230\ Stuart Bacon: And I'm sick. 733\ 01:01:09.720 --> 01:01:11.690\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm in an area that's got nothing but… 734\ 01:01:15.030 --> 01:01:16.850\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: semi-detached businesses. 735\ 01:01:31.290 --> 01:01:32.690\ tristram cary: In this field. 736\ 01:01:32.910 --> 01:01:33.819\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is. 737\ 01:01:36.950 --> 01:01:40.209\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: What happens if you scroll all the way down to get beyond the letters? 738\ 01:01:41.850 --> 01:01:46.080\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Otherwise, you're gonna have to ask what the codes are for your area. 739\ 01:01:46.530 --> 01:01:47.180\ Stuart Bacon: Yeah. 740\ 01:01:49.070 --> 01:01:51.099\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've not actually seen these before. 741\ 01:01:52.180 --> 01:01:54.159\ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Just start typing. 742\ 01:01:56.450 --> 01:01:57.709\ tristram cary: Yeah, that's a good idea. 743\ 01:01:57.710 --> 01:01:58.830\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You could try. 744\ 01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.630\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you say commercial? 745\ 01:02:02.460 --> 01:02:03.290\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No. 746\ 01:02:03.290 --> 01:02:03.920\ Stuart Bacon: Nope. 747\ 01:02:04.110 --> 01:02:06.150\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, there's no data there, yep. 748\ 01:02:07.590 --> 01:02:08.100\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Weird. 749\ 01:02:08.710 --> 01:02:16.560\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, again, for Claire's, view. If you… can you go briefly into table view mode? 750\ 01:02:16.680 --> 01:02:18.040\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Please, Stuart. 751\ 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:22.269\ Stuart Bacon: I agree, yep. 752\ 01:02:22.530 --> 01:02:34.190\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you could, again, for Claire's benefit, you could scroll down through the classification there, where it says semi-detached and terraced and so forth, and in an area where there are 753\ 01:02:34.650 --> 01:02:38.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: businesses, they will say what they are. 754\ 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:46.720\ tristram cary: There is, there is a classification, because that's where the legend is pulling out blue. 755\ 01:02:46.720 --> 01:02:49.169\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's one called Commercial, right there. 756\ 01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:50.450\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: In the middle. 757\ 01:02:50.450 --> 01:02:51.230\ Stuart Bacon: There you go. 758\ 01:02:52.120 --> 01:02:53.420\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so… 759\ 01:02:53.420 --> 01:02:53.920\ Stuart Bacon: Okay. 760\ 01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:55.120\ tristram cary: There's a C. 761\ 01:02:55.370 --> 01:02:57.419\ tristram cary: She's in Boston, 762\ 01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:03.469\ Stuart Bacon: So, if I then filter again… That's good. 763\ 01:03:03.470 --> 01:03:05.220\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: costs, yep. 764\ 01:03:05.540 --> 01:03:07.679\ Stuart Bacon: Car sequenced C. 765\ 01:03:08.560 --> 01:03:09.640\ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): starts with… 766\ 01:03:09.640 --> 01:03:11.750\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, see, yum. 767\ 01:03:11.890 --> 01:03:14.299\ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Starts with instead of equals. 768\ 01:03:14.300 --> 01:03:15.739\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It looks like you've got a. 769\ 01:03:15.740 --> 01:03:16.870\ tristram cary: I mean, it starts with… 770\ 01:03:16.870 --> 01:03:17.470\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: him. 771\ 01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:18.730\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. 772\ 01:03:20.660 --> 01:03:28.239\ Stuart Bacon: So we're gonna, but I'm just concerned that if we start with C, then pull all the other… 773\ 01:03:28.510 --> 01:03:30.170\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly, all the other seas are. 774\ 01:03:30.170 --> 01:03:31.140\ tristram cary: Yeah, that's true. 775\ 01:03:31.620 --> 01:03:34.310\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I think C is a good one to… 776\ 01:03:35.870 --> 01:03:38.889\ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Except it was class, not classification. 777\ 01:03:44.140 --> 01:03:47.639\ Stuart Bacon: There's lots of… That's the Shorestar center, that's not… 778\ 01:03:47.640 --> 01:03:49.279\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Children's center, yeah, fair enough. 779\ 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:50.649\ Stuart Bacon: It's not the leisure center. 780\ 01:03:51.420 --> 01:03:54.810\ Stuart Bacon: Just out the Leisure center one, which is this part of the building. 781\ 01:03:54.810 --> 01:03:55.560\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 782\ 01:03:56.530 --> 01:03:59.329\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's very precise, then, is it? Right, okay. 783\ 01:03:59.330 --> 01:03:59.970\ Stuart Bacon: Yeah. 784\ 01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:04.560\ Stuart Bacon: Because, I mean, if I… if I turn the filter off, So, you'll see there's the… 785\ 01:04:04.560 --> 01:04:06.770\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Some more than that, yeah, okay. 786\ 01:04:06.770 --> 01:04:09.210\ Stuart Bacon: And others… yeah. 787\ 01:04:09.520 --> 01:04:14.710\ Stuart Bacon: So it's… by being precise, it's… Cutting out those… 788\ 01:04:15.160 --> 01:04:18.520\ Stuart Bacon: And I can't choose commercial, which is really… 789\ 01:04:18.520 --> 01:04:24.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so again, for Claire, if you could show her exporting the data so she can use it in a spreadsheet. 790\ 01:04:29.040 --> 01:04:35.090\ Stuart Bacon: Okay, so, first off, I guess we need to… . 791\ 01:04:35.170 --> 01:04:36.069\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Put a filter on. 792\ 01:04:36.070 --> 01:04:37.050\ Stuart Bacon: April, June. 793\ 01:04:37.050 --> 01:04:37.370\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 794\ 01:04:37.370 --> 01:04:39.325\ Stuart Bacon: And… 795\ 01:04:42.580 --> 01:04:45.340\ Stuart Bacon: You're wanting to… 796\ 01:04:45.340 --> 01:04:45.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 797\ 01:04:46.180 --> 01:04:52.410\ Stuart Bacon: locality marine… kind of tangles… Change in April. 798\ 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:56.880\ Stuart Bacon: Oops. 799\ 01:04:58.190 --> 01:05:01.779\ Stuart Bacon: Why is that one giving me one street records, I wouldn't? 800\ 01:05:02.230 --> 01:05:03.879\ Stuart Bacon: There's more than none. 801\ 01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:07.330\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, because you've gone for locality name, 802\ 01:05:08.060 --> 01:05:10.259\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: You think you'd get a lot more than that, wouldn't you? 803\ 01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:11.580\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. 804\ 01:05:11.580 --> 01:05:12.180\ Stuart Bacon: Yeah. 805\ 01:05:12.390 --> 01:05:13.750\ Stuart Bacon: That's not… 806\ 01:05:13.750 --> 01:05:15.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, you need a value in there, yup. 807\ 01:05:18.560 --> 01:05:22.270\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Anyway, the point being, for Claire's point of view, is that she wants… 808\ 01:05:22.270 --> 01:05:28.080\ Stuart Bacon: And you can export… once you've brought it down just to your town, rather than the entirety of the country. 809\ 01:05:28.680 --> 01:05:36.160\ Stuart Bacon: Then, yeah, you can export that data to a… To a CSV, 810\ 01:05:36.540 --> 01:05:38.849\ Stuart Bacon: Yep, you want to include the matter. 811\ 01:05:43.560 --> 01:05:45.629\ Stuart Bacon: I'm not now workshop. 812\ 01:05:46.420 --> 01:05:46.899\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. 813\ 01:05:47.300 --> 01:05:49.400\ Stuart Bacon: That now brings up all of these. 814\ 01:05:50.500 --> 01:05:51.750\ Stuart Bacon: the data. 815\ 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:55.050\ Stuart Bacon: Does that include me. 816\ 01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.830\ Stuart Bacon: Perhaps gives me, actually, a better way of doing it. 817\ 01:05:58.370 --> 01:06:04.980\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: But I was wondering if you just… you could go back and just select the parish count record, and then do a data extract. 818\ 01:06:06.690 --> 01:06:10.010\ Stuart Bacon: Commercial. 819\ 01:06:10.260 --> 01:06:10.750\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: That works. 820\ 01:06:10.750 --> 01:06:11.430\ Stuart Bacon: Absolutely. 821\ 01:06:12.560 --> 01:06:18.539\ Stuart Bacon: Sort of there, yeah, that boat has grown up some of. 822\ 01:06:19.520 --> 01:06:22.809\ Stuart Bacon: The commercial business, but there are… 823\ 01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.979\ Stuart Bacon: orders, so it would be a case of understanding 824\ 01:06:27.150 --> 01:06:36.129\ Stuart Bacon: What categorizations you want that you can… Pick those out from… the list by filtering. 825\ 01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:40.940\ Stuart Bacon: Office. 826\ 01:06:41.660 --> 01:06:42.740\ Stuart Bacon: Well, I've been… 827\ 01:06:47.070 --> 01:06:48.310\ Stuart Bacon: Orion's host. 828\ 01:06:56.690 --> 01:07:00.170\ Stuart Bacon: Choose what you want, and at least then that expands the 829\ 01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.890\ Stuart Bacon: The option available to you, the available… Very useful. 830\ 01:07:04.890 --> 01:07:12.109\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Cool. And could you just go back and show selecting the parish record, and then do a data extract on addresses? 831\ 01:07:16.940 --> 01:07:20.870\ Stuart Bacon: Yep, let's see my budget. 832\ 01:07:23.010 --> 01:07:28.429\ Stuart Bacon: So that is the address base. That was all of it… all we've just pulled through again, going. 833\ 01:07:28.680 --> 01:07:35.590\ Stuart Bacon: We've just done the data extract on the… on the parish by having chosen from the town name. 834\ 01:07:36.240 --> 01:07:43.989\ Stuart Bacon: Contains that, and then you've got all of the… All of the properties within 835\ 01:07:44.530 --> 01:07:46.659\ Stuart Bacon: Within the parish. 836\ 01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:49.019\ Stuart Bacon: An extension. 837\ 01:07:49.210 --> 01:07:52.050\ Stuart Bacon: And that's what we've just, sort of, opened. 838\ 01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:01.650\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and if for… second question for David this time… 839\ 01:08:02.050 --> 01:08:05.429\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you can go back to just a regular map of your parish, please. 840\ 01:08:07.770 --> 01:08:14.059\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I'll talk you through what I think David is looking for. So, if you can turn off the address space… 841\ 01:08:14.730 --> 01:08:26.209\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think David is looking to acquaint his parish council with features on the roads that they want to change, and he wants to be able to show them 842\ 01:08:26.649 --> 01:08:37.250\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: digitally where the stuff is, which I think what he wants to do is to annotate stuff, Stuart. So if you take your crossroads in the middle of the village there, yeah. 843\ 01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:46.629\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: and say, that is the piece that you… the triangle in the middle is the bit you want to remove, let's just say for that. So, could you annotate that, please? 844\ 01:08:47.540 --> 01:08:51.849\ Stuart Bacon: Yep. You're going up to Tools Annotate. Tools and Annotate, yep. 845\ 01:08:51.859 --> 01:08:53.839\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And create a new object. 846\ 01:08:54.969 --> 01:08:57.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it's gonna be a polygon, yeah. 847\ 01:08:58.249 --> 01:09:01.129\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so you just draw that around. Perfect. 848\ 01:09:01.259 --> 01:09:04.739\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whilst you're there, if you give it a label and a name… 849\ 01:09:04.969 --> 01:09:10.059\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Like, removing the triangle, say. So use label… yeah. 850\ 01:09:10.930 --> 01:09:11.680\ Stuart Bacon: Come on, fuck. 851\ 01:09:11.689 --> 01:09:14.219\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Should we remove this triangle, something like that, yep. 852\ 01:09:18.779 --> 01:09:21.319\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you can finish, done. Okay. 853\ 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:25.079\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if you zoom out and close down the left-hand column. 854\ 01:09:26.869 --> 01:09:36.329\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you can imagine, David, if you've done this several times throughout your area, you'd then have all of the bits you want to remove showing on the map at once. 855\ 01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:42.489\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: And there is a button there called, at the top left, called Annotate All. 856\ 01:09:44.369 --> 01:09:52.189\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go up a little bit, Stuart, to the icons at the top there, the one on the right, second in from the right is Annotate all, yeah. 857\ 01:09:52.789 --> 01:09:59.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that will just show, if you click on that, it will show every annotation that you've made, all on one map. 858\ 01:09:59.449 --> 01:10:02.249\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which I think is what David is trying to do. 859\ 01:10:02.909 --> 01:10:07.609\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… Thank you very much, you've just answered his question. I hope. 860\ 01:10:09.440 --> 01:10:16.599\ Stuart Bacon: Sorry, it just seems that the maps were taking a moment to, to load. We're not getting… 861\ 01:10:16.860 --> 01:10:17.510\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 862\ 01:10:17.510 --> 01:10:18.620\ Stuart Bacon: Honestly. 863\ 01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:20.490\ Stuart Bacon: All of them up and down, so… 864\ 01:10:20.970 --> 01:10:23.460\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you will live in third world country, what do you expect? 865\ 01:10:23.460 --> 01:10:30.530\ Stuart Bacon: With a… sort of… Big connection, I'm expecting better quality, to be fair. 866\ 01:10:30.530 --> 01:10:31.020\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 867\ 01:10:31.020 --> 01:10:37.410\ Stuart Bacon: But, yeah, it seems to be from parish online, the, the map refresh is not… 868\ 01:10:37.610 --> 01:10:38.980\ Stuart Bacon: Coming on daily. 869\ 01:10:40.550 --> 01:10:43.770\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is very slow at the moment, isn't it? Of course, it is Friday afternoon. 870\ 01:10:43.940 --> 01:10:50.969\ Stuart Bacon: the tour recently, when anything sort of gets refreshed at, Paris Online's service, yeah. 871\ 01:10:51.200 --> 01:10:51.800\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 872\ 01:10:52.980 --> 01:10:55.540\ tristram cary: You don't know it's parachorman, it could be your… your… 873\ 01:10:56.300 --> 01:11:02.039\ Stuart Bacon: No, I know the rest of my websites are sort of refreshing quite happily. 874\ 01:11:04.820 --> 01:11:10.779\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, gentlemen, ladies, we don't think we've got any lady left, have we? Have they all left. 875\ 01:11:10.940 --> 01:11:13.920\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Helen, you're still with us? Yes, you are. 876\ 01:11:14.170 --> 01:11:19.150\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, do we have any questions that we've left unanswered that people want to… 877\ 01:11:19.290 --> 01:11:23.849\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have a chat about, please? Or are we all set to go for the weekend? 878\ 01:11:24.490 --> 01:11:26.350\ Jean-Pierre Durand: All set. Thank you. 879\ 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.890\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, great pleasure to see you all. Take care, and have a great weekend. Hope to see you next week. 880\ 01:11:31.890 --> 01:11:32.360\ Helen Davey councillor Martlesham Heath: Thank you. 881\ 01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:33.320\ Jean-Pierre Durand: Very much. 882\ 01:11:33.320 --> 01:11:36.180\ Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright, take care. Thank you for coming. Bye-bye. 883\ 01:11:36.710 --> 01:11:37.490\ Helen Davey councillor Martlesham Heath: Bye.