251017 - 17Oct25 session25-42

Asset Management, Council Data, Parish Layers (starting the first one), creating, editing and styling first feature (labels, colours), Cadastral Parcels, Land Registry, InspireID, Postal Codes

and Using PRINT to share mapping data, getting Council Data, Planning Applications and data from councils, List all commercial buildings in a parish: using Addressbase, Table View, Export, Using Tools, Annotate to highlight mapping features - eg for making presentations

Video Timeline: (min:sec)

00:00 - 03:24 Introductory Banter

03:24 - 05:20 Introduction to Barrowby (Lincs)

05:20 - 26:36 Introduction to Botley (Hants): Asset Management, Council Data, Parish Layers (starting the first one), creating, editing and styling first feature (labels, colours)

26:36 - 30:40 Banter

30:40 - 40:00 Introduction to Cadastral Parcels, Land Registry, InspireID, Postal Codes

40:00 - 44:00 Using PRINT to share mapping data

44:00 - 47:25 Council Data

47:25 - 50:00 Planning Applications and data from councils

50:00 - 61:48. List all commercial buildings in a parish: using Addressbase, Table View, Export)

61:48 - 65:21 (end) Using Tools, Annotate to highlight mapping features - eg for making presentations

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Meeting Summary:

Quick recap

The meeting began with introductions and discussions about mapping tools for land management, with Jean-Pierre sharing a new software discovery and Graham guiding James through Parish Online functionality. The group explored various aspects of land registry data access, mapping capabilities, and data management challenges, including discussions about unregistered land and historical records. The session concluded with demonstrations on how to extract parish data, annotate features, and manage commercial building classifications, with participants gaining valuable insights into mapping software tools and data management processes.

Next steps

• Jean-Pierre to contact Lincolnshire County Council to request access to additional data layers for Parish Online, following the instructions in the Knowledge Base article on council data.

• Jean-Pierre to investigate ownership of the village green by checking with Lincolnshire County Council for registered village green records.

• James to create additional Parish layers in Parish Online for different phases of asset acquisition and regeneration projects.

• James to explore requesting planning data from the local borough council to be added to Parish Online.

• Claire to export commercial building data using the filtering and data extract functions demonstrated.

• David to use the annotation feature in Parish Online to mark road features that need to be changed for presentation to the Parish Council.

Summary

New Tool for Land Mapping

The meeting began with introductions and casual conversation among participants. Jean-Pierre, a new attendee, shared his recent discovery of a software tool for mapping unclaimed or unregistered land, which he found useful for preventing unauthorized development. Graham expressed interest in the tool and mentioned that Jean-Pierre would be the first to discuss topics in future sessions. The conversation ended with Graham noting a few pending questions that would be addressed if the questioners arrived later.

Parish Online Asset Management

James discussed using Parish Online as an asset management tool and sought guidance on creating temporary layers for phased regeneration projects. Graham suggested importing digital maps from external sources if possible, as Parish Online is a GIS system. He also recommended exploring the Parish Layers feature, which James had not yet done. James expressed confusion about the instructions to use Parish Layers, as he had not created one yet.

Parish Online Layer Management Training

James learned how to create and manage a new layer in Parish Online, including adding features, editing data, and applying styles. Graham guided James through the process, explaining key concepts such as geometry types, columns, and categorization. They encountered some technical issues but resolved them by refreshing the page and adjusting settings. James successfully created a test layer, added features, and categorized them as lakes. The session concluded with James learning how to style the layer to match existing maps.

Parish Online Functionality Training

Graham and James discussed the functionality of Parish Online, focusing on how to change the color of lakes and manage different phases within the system. James learned how to differentiate between phases using color coding and discussed the flexibility of the tool for managing multiple phases on a single map. Graham emphasized the importance of simplicity at this stage and encouraged James to focus on functionality over style. The session concluded with Mahrukh joining the call, introducing herself as a volunteer with Blackbird Leeds Parish Council and expressing her interest in learning more about the system.

Land Registry Data Access Training

Graham demonstrated how to access and verify land registry data, showing Jean-Pierre how to use the Cadastro Parcels feature to link to Inspire IDs and view associated documents. Jean-Pierre, who is new to his role as a parish councillor, expressed interest in making parish records more digital and referenceable, particularly regarding unnumbered white squares on the land registry map which he identified as playing fields.

Challenges with Unregistered Land Registration

The group discussed challenges with unregistered land and the limitations of the Land Registry's online database, which only goes back to the early 1970s. James shared his experience of registering an allotment through a legal team, highlighting the need for registration to access services like water connection. Stuart suggested enlisting the help of a solicitor or conveyancer to search for deeds or historical records, while Tristram mentioned the Land Registry's inquiry service as a potential alternative. Jean-Pierre expressed concern about the lack of visual mapping features in the registry, which Stuart confirmed was due to the absence of an Ordinance Survey overlay.

Land Records and Map Navigation

Graham guided Jean-Pierre through navigating and printing maps from a software interface, including how to turn on and off different layers like postal codes and land registry data. Jean-Pierre expressed concern about a 600-year-old village green being incorrectly registered, and Stuart suggested checking with the county council's records for verification. James shared an example from Botley where historical land records from county archives revealed an unexplained land grab from 1918, emphasizing the importance of accessing old records for land disputes.

Data Export and Planning Insights

Graham explained to Jean-Pierre that Lincolnshire County Council is exporting data, though not as much as other areas like Bath and Northeast Somerset. He guided Jean-Pierre on how to use the Parish Online help system to learn about data export procedures, noting that once set up, Parish Online can quickly process data. James expressed interest in obtaining planning data for Botley Parish, which is undergoing significant development, but Graham warned that council-held planning information can be difficult to use due to poor organization and limited filtering options. The conversation ended with Graham mentioning that he and Stuart needed to address questions from two absent participants, including one from Claire who requested a list of commercial buildings in her area.

Commercial Building Classification System Updates

The team discussed how to filter and classify commercial buildings in a mapping system, with Graham and Stuart exploring different classification options and filters to refine the data. They discovered that using "starts with" instead of "equals" for the classification allowed them to see relevant commercial data, though they noted some limitations in the system's categorization. Stuart demonstrated how to export the filtered data to a CSV format for Claire's purposes, though they identified that some commercial businesses might be missing from the current categorization.

Parish Data Mapping Software Demo

The meeting focused on demonstrating how to use mapping software to extract parish data and annotate features for potential changes. Graham guided Stuart through the process of selecting parish records, creating data extracts, and using annotation tools to highlight specific areas for modification. They also discussed issues with map loading speed, which Stuart attributed to poor internet connection. The session concluded with no unresolved questions, and participants expressed gratitude for the demonstration.

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Chat:

00:43:33 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): I have just noticed the one place on my parish map not registered with the Land Registry is a development site.

01:10:47 Mahrukh Awan: Thank you for the lovely session. I have to leave. Rest I will see the recording.

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Audio-Transcript:

9 00:06:24.350 --> 00:06:26.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm expecting some new faces today.

20 00:06:28.580 --> 00:06:30.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that's very exciting.

21 00:06:30.930 --> 00:06:34.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But if you, promise to behave, I'll tell you who they are.

22 00:06:36.330 --> 00:06:37.010 Stuart Bacon: Correct.

23 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:42.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No more disappearing to rapturous songs.

24 00:06:44.320 --> 00:06:45.479 tristram cary: No more what?

25 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:51.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Disappearing into rapturous singing. Oh, dear, we've got Jean-Pierre is coming.

26 00:06:54.950 --> 00:06:58.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Barrow, where's Barrowbie? I don't know where Barrowbie is.

27 00:07:00.310 --> 00:07:02.080 Retired Clerk: Probably near Barrow A.

28 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.050 Retired Clerk: A bit like English dirty.

29 00:07:06.050 --> 00:07:10.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. Oh, thank you.

30 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:14.839 Stuart Bacon: I think he walks in for that one, Graham.

31 00:07:15.250 --> 00:07:20.939 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I was just wondering whether a sizewell B was a particularly large one. Did it sting you badly?

32 00:07:27.390 --> 00:07:34.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not to worry, well, indeed, there are all sorts of strange names due to arrive, but they haven't done yet.

33 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:42.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And some of them are new to… new to… to me.

34 00:07:48.840 --> 00:07:51.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You don't know where Leatherstock Ford is?

35 00:07:53.670 --> 00:07:54.510 tristram cary: Nope.

36 00:07:54.510 --> 00:07:55.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right, well.

37 00:07:55.890 --> 00:07:57.930 Retired Clerk: I'm tempted, but I better not.

38 00:08:01.870 --> 00:08:03.719 Stuart Bacon: Baraby, I think, is…

39 00:08:03.980 --> 00:08:19.500 Jean-Pierre Durand: It's me, Jean-Pierre, I'm Baraby. But I think this is the first session we're having, and if I want to do this on my computer, there is no camera, so I'm sorry if that is not the.

40 00:08:19.500 --> 00:08:20.430 Stuart Bacon: Congratulations.

41 00:08:22.090 --> 00:08:24.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adds to the mystery, Jean-Pierre.

42 00:08:24.230 --> 00:08:27.010 Retired Clerk: Yeah, we hide… we hide ourselves anyway, half the time.

43 00:08:27.010 --> 00:08:29.060 Jean-Pierre Durand: It'd be rather disappointing, I can tell you.

44 00:08:29.060 --> 00:08:30.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Aww.

45 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:33.399 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, well…

46 00:08:33.400 --> 00:08:38.250 Retired Clerk: You've got to put Graham out of his misery and just give us a clue where you are in the country.

47 00:08:38.630 --> 00:08:44.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. It's Leatherstocked forward. No, that's not you, you're, you're Barrowby, aren't you?

48 00:08:44.010 --> 00:08:45.330 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, I'm Barbie.

49 00:08:45.880 --> 00:08:46.530 Jean-Pierre Durand: Sure, that's.

50 00:08:46.530 --> 00:08:48.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's… that narrows it down.

51 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:49.810 Stuart Bacon: Lincolnshire.

52 00:08:49.810 --> 00:08:52.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lincolnshire, sorry. Thank you. Alright.

53 00:08:52.280 --> 00:08:52.950 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah.

54 00:08:53.990 --> 00:08:55.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: On the coast?

55 00:08:55.330 --> 00:08:58.340 Jean-Pierre Durand: No, no, no, no. On a hill.

56 00:08:59.620 --> 00:09:04.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't know if it makes a difference. Well, there aren't many animals in Lincolnshire, are there?

57 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:06.540 Jean-Pierre Durand: No, no.

58 00:09:07.990 --> 00:09:09.600 Stuart Bacon: The outskirts of Grantham.

59 00:09:10.190 --> 00:09:10.970 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yo.

60 00:09:11.800 --> 00:09:19.980 Jean-Pierre Durand: In fact, that's one of our biggest issues, is the fact that we're on the outskirts of Grantham, because they can't decide whether we're a separate village or whether we are part of Grantham.

61 00:09:21.040 --> 00:09:23.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Your neighborhood plan will tell them all.

62 00:09:24.330 --> 00:09:26.660 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, once it's finally accepted.

63 00:09:28.630 --> 00:09:31.059 Jean-Pierre Durand: And then tilted burns will just ignore all of that.

64 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that's right.

65 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nevermind. Well…

66 00:09:38.330 --> 00:09:47.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Jean-Pierre, as you're, the newest arrival, as far as we're concerned, you have honor of first place to say, is there anything you'd like to have covered today?

67 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:58.350 Jean-Pierre Durand: So, I've recently discovered this amazing software, because we were looking at trying to find little parcels of land that were unclaimed.

68 00:09:58.350 --> 00:10:09.279 Jean-Pierre Durand: Or that wasn't necessarily registered with Land Registry, in order to try and make sure that it doesn't fall into the wrong hands, or people start claiming things, and…

69 00:10:09.340 --> 00:10:12.520 Jean-Pierre Durand: We have developers that want to use bits of

70 00:10:12.900 --> 00:10:21.689 Jean-Pierre Durand: land as access. So I found the overlay of… Land registry, quite useful.

71 00:10:21.690 --> 00:10:22.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

72 00:10:23.210 --> 00:10:28.660 Jean-Pierre Durand: So that's the only thing I've discovered so far. I believe a lot of it needs inputting manually.

73 00:10:28.950 --> 00:10:38.759 Jean-Pierre Durand: specific to Barabi, but I've only had 2 days of play with this, so I'm eager to learn what else we can do.

74 00:10:39.420 --> 00:10:41.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh my gosh, it's almost unlimited.

75 00:10:41.890 --> 00:10:45.280 Jean-Pierre Durand: How long have you got? Yes.

76 00:10:45.650 --> 00:10:52.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: of… Oh, I'll say good afternoon to John. Nice to see you, John.

77 00:10:53.110 --> 00:10:56.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're no longer trying to hide under camouflage.

78 00:10:59.020 --> 00:11:00.020 John Roberts: underneath.

79 00:11:00.410 --> 00:11:01.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right.

80 00:11:02.310 --> 00:11:04.470 Retired Clerk: He's a mind of many layers.

81 00:11:04.470 --> 00:11:05.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

82 00:11:07.170 --> 00:11:08.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very tropical layers.

83 00:11:10.420 --> 00:11:16.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I do have a couple of questions that were called in during the week,

84 00:11:16.910 --> 00:11:22.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In the expectation by the questioners that they would be here to go through the answers.

85 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:27.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So far, neither has arrived, but I'll hold them in

86 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:29.989 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just in case they show up.

87 00:11:31.230 --> 00:11:32.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So,

88 00:11:33.340 --> 00:11:39.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones: James, you're also hiding away in the background. Do you have anything in particular you'd like to cover this week?

89 00:11:40.940 --> 00:11:42.629 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And are you even there?

90 00:11:43.050 --> 00:11:44.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Moriarty?

91 00:11:46.520 --> 00:11:48.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, you are. Hello, James, how are you?

92 00:11:49.180 --> 00:11:53.699 James Franklin: Hello, sorry, I was, replying to emails, very rude of me.

93 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:58.580 James Franklin: not quite so much that I'd like to cover. I've been…

94 00:11:58.870 --> 00:12:02.039 Graham Stoddart-Stones: delving deeper into Parrish Online with.

95 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:04.900 James Franklin: Inputting all of our assets, and…

96 00:12:05.340 --> 00:12:08.670 James Franklin: Using it more as an asset management tool, and…

97 00:12:10.940 --> 00:12:21.640 James Franklin: more for my benefit, just to keep track of everything that's going on, which is really a useful feature. I'm… I would like to know about creating…

98 00:12:22.590 --> 00:12:29.160 James Franklin: Temporary layers for… my own phased…

99 00:12:30.030 --> 00:12:36.319 James Franklin: Sort of regeneration projects, or, as we get more asset acquisition from

100 00:12:36.730 --> 00:12:46.330 James Franklin: Through the unification, sort of plotting layers for different phases of Our onboarding of assets, basically.

101 00:12:46.620 --> 00:12:47.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What?

102 00:12:48.740 --> 00:12:50.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Only of assets, or…

103 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:53.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Pieces of land, or other stuff, or…

104 00:12:54.640 --> 00:12:56.480 James Franklin: I… so in…

105 00:12:56.590 --> 00:13:07.210 James Franklin: it's really ranging, because we've had quite a lot of developments in our parish, that are arranged by local borough council, but they're actually in our patch, so…

106 00:13:07.540 --> 00:13:21.279 James Franklin: we're, you know, we're getting a community center and a pavilion and land associated, but then we're also getting things from a developer that's going to go from a developer to the Borough council to us, so it just sort of skips through the Borough Council to us.

107 00:13:21.530 --> 00:13:28.060 James Franklin: So that's, again, land, woodland, waterways, bodies of water, buildings.

108 00:13:28.860 --> 00:13:38.359 James Franklin: parks, bent… you… if it exists, it could be coming, but it's sort of… we need to have a phased management plan, so I'd like to create, like, a…

109 00:13:39.210 --> 00:13:44.790 James Franklin: a Phase 1 layer, a Phase 2 layer, so that I can… Demonstrate on the map.

110 00:13:45.160 --> 00:13:46.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: what's coming.

111 00:13:46.180 --> 00:13:51.570 James Franklin: What's coming, and in what phase, and… Yeah, it's just a…

112 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:57.390 James Franklin: quick sort of Q&A on making custom layers for myself, I guess.

113 00:13:58.230 --> 00:14:10.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, I think I might start. The first thing I would say was, if you can persuade the people who create the maps for the borough, or for the developer, or something.

114 00:14:10.550 --> 00:14:27.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: they're probably using what's called a geographic information system, a GIS, and Parish Online is a GIS, and therefore, it's likely to be able to exchange information with them. And if somebody's already gone to the trouble of creating it digitally.

115 00:14:27.420 --> 00:14:32.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it really helps if you can just import it, and not have to do anything.

116 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:45.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's the overview, that if you can get to that position, that's ideal, but it's not always straightforward to do that. In fact, I'll go the other way around and say it's never straightforward to do that.

117 00:14:45.830 --> 00:14:57.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But having covered that as sort of my starting caveat, then have you come across yet what's called parish layers, which is the first of the beige ones in your left-hand column?

118 00:14:58.060 --> 00:15:03.739 James Franklin: So, I'm just gonna… Oh, allow at this time, yeah, let's put your P&P.

119 00:15:04.190 --> 00:15:05.850 James Franklin: So…

120 00:15:07.090 --> 00:15:13.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, in the left-hand column, you've got a bunch of green layers, or collections, and then you go down to beige-colored ones.

121 00:15:13.920 --> 00:15:14.490 James Franklin: Yes.

122 00:15:14.490 --> 00:15:16.799 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the top one is called Parish Layers.

123 00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:19.989 James Franklin: My top one is assets and maintenance.

124 00:15:20.490 --> 00:15:24.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so you've got a brand new system, you haven't even created a partial AI yet.

125 00:15:24.820 --> 00:15:25.430 James Franklin: No.

126 00:15:25.430 --> 00:15:28.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That would be a fun goal for today.

127 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:38.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But… because it is very disconcerting when all the instructions tell you to go to the parish layers and start from there, and then you suddenly find that there is no parish lair.

128 00:15:38.910 --> 00:15:41.200 James Franklin: I think that's where I'm becoming unstuck.

129 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, well, let's unstick you, then.

130 00:15:43.710 --> 00:15:49.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because the thing to do is to create an error, and then they'll be there forevermore.

131 00:15:50.300 --> 00:16:01.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, just see if you've got the right rights and privileges. If you go up to the top line of the Parish Online screen, there's a bunch of white menus, one of which is called Create.

132 00:16:02.140 --> 00:16:02.920 James Franklin: Yes.

133 00:16:02.920 --> 00:16:06.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on that, you should see New Layer.

134 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:09.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adler or something?

135 00:16:09.830 --> 00:16:10.730 James Franklin: Yes.

136 00:16:10.880 --> 00:16:12.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, so click on that.

137 00:16:13.050 --> 00:16:14.989 James Franklin: I'm gonna call it test for now.

138 00:16:15.250 --> 00:16:23.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you would like to share your screen, then it makes it much easier for anybody who's talking to you to realize where the heck they've taken you.

139 00:16:23.860 --> 00:16:27.469 James Franklin: Yep, bear with me one second, I'm sure I know how to do that.

140 00:16:27.770 --> 00:16:28.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: He says.

141 00:16:29.330 --> 00:16:37.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, in Zoom, if you put your mouse on the bottom line in the middle of the screen, it'll bring up a big green arrow which says share screen.

142 00:16:38.180 --> 00:16:39.689 James Franklin: Yep, that's right.

143 00:16:39.890 --> 00:16:43.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and then it asks you to select a window that you want to share.

144 00:16:44.170 --> 00:16:47.909 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can either select the one that's got… oh, you're well on the way, okay?

145 00:16:47.910 --> 00:16:49.050 James Franklin: There we go.

146 00:16:49.270 --> 00:16:50.310 James Franklin: Right.

147 00:16:50.310 --> 00:16:52.020 Stuart Bacon: So it's called.

148 00:16:53.010 --> 00:16:55.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've got a lovely picture of me, how very exciting.

149 00:16:55.660 --> 00:17:03.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, yes, so good. You're creating your first layer, and you're calling it test, that's ideal, so go ahead and click on the next button.

150 00:17:05.410 --> 00:17:24.299 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, when you create layers, there are 3 types of geometry that you can use. You can either use points, which are things like bus stops or exercise areas on your racetrack, you know, or you can use lines, which are sort of self-explanatory. They're walls, they're pavements, they're boundaries around fields.

151 00:17:24.300 --> 00:17:26.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Everything else is a polygon.

152 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:35.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, for your example today, the easiest thing to choose is a point, but if you wanted to be a daredevil, you'd go for Polygon.

153 00:17:36.110 --> 00:17:36.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We just…

154 00:17:36.840 --> 00:17:37.390 James Franklin: I'm gonna…

155 00:17:37.390 --> 00:17:39.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just like one of them.

156 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:44.039 James Franklin: I'm gonna have to allocate Areas more than, sort of.

157 00:17:44.190 --> 00:17:44.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so…

158 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.329 James Franklin: Polygon, just because… Or our zone maps.

159 00:17:48.330 --> 00:17:49.949 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Off you go, then. Click on that.

160 00:17:51.090 --> 00:17:52.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then…

161 00:17:52.710 --> 00:18:03.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: This description space is optional, but it's extremely useful to remind yourself when you come back to this layer in 6 months' time what the hell you created it for.

162 00:18:03.610 --> 00:18:10.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because a lot of people who create lots of layers then have no way of working out later why on earth they created it.

163 00:18:24.050 --> 00:18:24.840 James Franklin: See you for now.

164 00:18:26.290 --> 00:18:40.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, click on next. So, it's asking you now what columns you like, and you're thinking of columns in sort of a spreadsheet question of rows and columns. If you're a database person, you might call these fields.

165 00:18:40.700 --> 00:18:47.799 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you need… you always need at least one, just so you can store something to find your thing again, so if you click on the plus sign there…

166 00:18:47.930 --> 00:18:50.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It'll pop up and call it name for you.

167 00:18:50.840 --> 00:18:55.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And for the moment, you can just leave that there as it is, but if you click on the plus sign again.

168 00:18:57.810 --> 00:19:09.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It'll do another one, and it says, I've named it Name, but you can't call it Name. So, just for today, try changing the second name there to the word status. So just put your mouse on it, and there you go.

169 00:19:10.610 --> 00:19:14.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You and I have a different understanding of the word second.

170 00:19:18.220 --> 00:19:18.980 James Franklin: Oh.

171 00:19:18.980 --> 00:19:22.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter in the slightest, do you?

172 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:23.380 Retired Clerk: Mmm.

173 00:19:23.380 --> 00:19:23.700 James Franklin: Okay.

174 00:19:23.700 --> 00:19:26.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Call it status, if you would, please.

175 00:19:29.950 --> 00:19:35.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, S-T-A-T-U-S, which is for… This morning? Yeah, okay.

176 00:19:36.970 --> 00:19:44.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And leave it at that so you can just finish. And the reason for this is that you're… the purpose of these calls…

177 00:19:46.310 --> 00:19:47.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, it's 2.

178 00:19:47.820 --> 00:19:50.759 James Franklin: Just… Does it matter about what the type is?

179 00:19:51.110 --> 00:19:54.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, you could leave them as texts, both of them.

180 00:19:54.150 --> 00:19:54.840 James Franklin: Okay.

181 00:19:55.930 --> 00:20:01.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that looks like it's not… it hasn't sort of picked up on it. That's interesting. Try saving anyway.

182 00:20:02.180 --> 00:20:05.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But I'm a bit surprised it says that to you.

183 00:20:05.630 --> 00:20:07.250 James Franklin: No.

184 00:20:07.250 --> 00:20:08.159 tristram cary: Say that.

185 00:20:10.970 --> 00:20:11.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I…

186 00:20:11.380 --> 00:20:12.869 James Franklin: I didn't call them to your mouth.

187 00:20:15.900 --> 00:20:19.999 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Try, you tried clicking on save, did you?

188 00:20:20.520 --> 00:20:21.180 James Franklin: Yeah.

189 00:20:21.180 --> 00:20:21.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They did not say.

190 00:20:21.900 --> 00:20:22.400 James Franklin: background.

191 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:23.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, right.

192 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:25.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go back to go back, then.

193 00:20:27.780 --> 00:20:28.580 tristram cary: That's you.

194 00:20:28.580 --> 00:20:30.199 James Franklin: Do I need to allow values?

195 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:37.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, no, that's if you want to have a drop-down list so that when people are filling in data, they only put in the values you want.

196 00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:38.590 James Franklin: Oh, okay.

197 00:20:38.590 --> 00:20:46.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you're running a project to build your new cricket pavilion or something, you might have values that have not yet started, under construction, and finished.

198 00:20:47.280 --> 00:20:47.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's.

199 00:20:47.800 --> 00:20:48.840 James Franklin: I'm with you.

200 00:20:49.250 --> 00:20:51.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if…

201 00:20:51.620 --> 00:20:53.100 tristram cary: Try again.

202 00:20:53.100 --> 00:20:55.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just try clicking on Finish.

203 00:20:57.060 --> 00:20:59.369 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, still doesn't like it, does it? Okay.

204 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:01.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well…

205 00:21:01.120 --> 00:21:04.809 tristram cary: Maybe it likes a name, in the first, the top right, top left.

206 00:21:05.300 --> 00:21:06.809 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we can say yes.

207 00:21:06.810 --> 00:21:08.530 tristram cary: unlikely, I agree, but.

208 00:21:08.800 --> 00:21:13.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Try switching those around, just put… yeah, exactly, and change the top one to name.

209 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:15.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: with a capital N.

210 00:21:20.710 --> 00:21:21.729 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

211 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:25.490 James Franklin: Alright.

212 00:21:25.490 --> 00:21:26.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

213 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:33.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right, well, sometimes we just have to take it that something's gone a bit astray, and we'll start afresh, so…

214 00:21:33.070 --> 00:21:35.589 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Just delete one of them.

215 00:21:37.890 --> 00:21:38.680 James Franklin: Okay…

216 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:39.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on the water…

217 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:40.400 James Franklin: I warmer.

218 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:41.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

219 00:21:41.990 --> 00:21:45.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It doesn't think it's there, really.

220 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.890 tristram cary: Why is that? Perhaps it doesn't like the spelling of Stasis.

221 00:21:48.890 --> 00:21:56.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No. If you… if you go up to the circle at the top left of your browser, James, for the one that says refresh…

222 00:21:57.610 --> 00:21:58.800 James Franklin: I'm with you.

223 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:02.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that one. Let's just start afresh, because sometimes.

224 00:22:02.320 --> 00:22:02.960 James Franklin: Oh.

225 00:22:04.560 --> 00:22:08.230 Stuart Bacon: Perhaps it's logged you out, and thus it wouldn't save the layer.

226 00:22:08.230 --> 00:22:10.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, whatever.

227 00:22:10.410 --> 00:22:15.179 Stuart Bacon: If it timed you out, you might have had issues with creating the layer that way.

228 00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:16.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So go into Create again.

229 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:19.459 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And a new layer.

230 00:22:20.970 --> 00:22:23.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just repeat what you've done so far.

231 00:22:31.150 --> 00:22:32.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

232 00:22:38.390 --> 00:22:39.109 James Franklin: Well, there's no problem.

233 00:22:39.110 --> 00:22:40.399 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go, yep.

234 00:22:40.830 --> 00:22:48.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, it looks as if nothing has happened very much, but you will see that the word parish there has now arrived, and if you click that open.

235 00:22:49.320 --> 00:22:52.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You'll find, that your test is there.

236 00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:54.350 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So…

237 00:22:54.710 --> 00:23:06.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The thing to mention here to you, James, is that Parish Online always adds a new layer to the bottom of that list, so if you had 10 parish layers in there, you'd find yours as number 11.

238 00:23:07.850 --> 00:23:08.360 James Franklin: Okay.

239 00:23:08.360 --> 00:23:13.209 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Today, you're number one, obviously. So, to actually use it now, you click on it.

240 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:19.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, you're going to add a feature, so if you click on that little cogwheel…

241 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:25.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and add a feature. This means it's… you're actually going to put your test somewhere.

242 00:23:25.580 --> 00:23:32.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, it's helpful to find either a recreation area, or an empty field, or somewhere where you can just plonk this thing.

243 00:23:33.950 --> 00:23:46.469 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That looks good. Okay. So, to draw, you put your mouse where you want to start the drawing, and then click… left-click once, and then pull the mouse.

244 00:23:46.700 --> 00:23:51.399 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you change direction by clicking again, and then just change direction.

245 00:23:51.570 --> 00:23:52.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

246 00:23:53.580 --> 00:23:58.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's good, you obviously got the hang of this. And then when you're finished, you do a double-click.

247 00:23:58.840 --> 00:23:59.360 James Franklin: Yep.

248 00:23:59.360 --> 00:24:04.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this… you need to put something in the name field, just so you can find this again.

249 00:24:07.060 --> 00:24:07.490 James Franklin: Yep.

250 00:24:07.490 --> 00:24:09.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and save it.

251 00:24:10.070 --> 00:24:14.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you notice it's all in blue at the moment, it'll change to red to show it's been saved.

252 00:24:15.410 --> 00:24:16.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now…

253 00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:16.650 James Franklin: Okay.

254 00:24:16.650 --> 00:24:31.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's suppose that you… the system on your left, your left-hand column, automatically assumes you want to add another feature. So it sort of gives you a new blank record. If you're only going to do the one, then you can just click on the X at the top of the left-hand column.

255 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:32.910 James Franklin: Okay.

256 00:24:33.460 --> 00:24:39.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, if you decide that you want to go and look at your test.

257 00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:44.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You click anywhere in it, And which opens up the editor again.

258 00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:45.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you.

259 00:24:45.070 --> 00:24:45.899 James Franklin: I'm with you.

260 00:24:45.900 --> 00:24:47.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, click on the word test.

261 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:55.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you can do any changes to that record. So if you click on the pencil icon, which is the edit pencil.

262 00:24:56.470 --> 00:25:04.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: then you could change the name if you didn't like Lake 1, and you can also move the boundaries of the lake

263 00:25:04.990 --> 00:25:05.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So…

264 00:25:05.580 --> 00:25:06.800 James Franklin: on with you.

265 00:25:06.800 --> 00:25:12.299 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just, you can just put it in the middle of one of those lines and pull, and you can just see what the effect is. Just pull it.

266 00:25:12.300 --> 00:25:14.080 James Franklin: Oh, so I can put it out without…

267 00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:14.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Diego, yes.

268 00:25:14.940 --> 00:25:15.520 James Franklin: Honestly.

269 00:25:15.520 --> 00:25:26.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And what we always recommend to people to do is that when they're making adjustments like this, you zoom in as far as you can, because it's so much easier to do on a big picture. There you go.

270 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:31.390 James Franklin: There you go. So now you can pull it to where you want it. And I can be more accurate.

271 00:25:31.550 --> 00:25:32.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely.

272 00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:35.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. So, the thing to do…

273 00:25:35.110 --> 00:25:35.790 James Franklin: Going…

274 00:25:35.790 --> 00:25:41.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you've made these changes, don't forget to save on the bottom left, so that you don't lose everything you've just done.

275 00:25:42.500 --> 00:25:47.480 James Franklin: Brilliant. And then can I go in and… Set it.

276 00:25:47.930 --> 00:25:59.060 James Franklin: the same standard as I've been doing elsewhere, so I could call it, I don't know, lakes, or I could categorize it as lakes or ponds, or I could… or is it always just gonna be…

277 00:25:59.060 --> 00:26:07.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, this might be a good time to say, perhaps you need a… an extra field or column called state, sorry, Category.

278 00:26:08.020 --> 00:26:13.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you'd have a category for a lake and a category for a recreation ground or a playground.

279 00:26:13.270 --> 00:26:15.180 James Franklin: Okay.

280 00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:15.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So…

281 00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.270 James Franklin: Well, I can go in and add those later, so…

282 00:26:19.270 --> 00:26:24.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, let's just cover it whilst we're here, because I think it's probably useful to you and to Jean-Pierre.

283 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:29.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, okay. The others are all wondering how on earth they're going to get out of this session.

284 00:26:30.810 --> 00:26:31.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So…

285 00:26:31.740 --> 00:26:40.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you, now go up to the top right underneath my photograph, James, you need to move that out of the way.

286 00:26:41.850 --> 00:26:45.620 James Franklin: I don't want to be rude, but how do I get your photograph away.

287 00:26:45.620 --> 00:26:46.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go.

288 00:26:47.900 --> 00:26:48.879 James Franklin: There you go.

289 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.050 Retired Clerk: We've been asking that for a long time.

290 00:26:51.050 --> 00:26:57.459 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank you very much. If you go to your little cogwheel in the top right corner.

291 00:26:57.750 --> 00:26:59.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on Administration.

292 00:27:00.430 --> 00:27:06.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then you'll get a nice big white blank screen, which will fill up as the data comes down from the internet with your test.

293 00:27:07.150 --> 00:27:12.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you now click on that once to highlight it, Just… just click on it.

294 00:27:12.130 --> 00:27:14.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, and now click on the pencil.

295 00:27:15.150 --> 00:27:18.679 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because you're going to edit now the structure of your layer.

296 00:27:19.430 --> 00:27:20.030 James Franklin: Oh, okay.

297 00:27:20.030 --> 00:27:24.309 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're going to add another column, so click on the plus sign at the top right.

298 00:27:25.610 --> 00:27:29.329 James Franklin: Yes. And re-change its name to Category, say.

299 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:31.990 James Franklin: Yeah.

300 00:27:31.990 --> 00:27:36.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Second row down, change the name from name to Category?

301 00:27:37.450 --> 00:27:39.890 James Franklin: Change it to Category.

302 00:27:39.890 --> 00:27:43.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, you see where it says name in the middle column, second row.

303 00:27:43.110 --> 00:27:44.730 James Franklin: It's… yes.

304 00:27:44.730 --> 00:27:46.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Change the word name to category.

305 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:54.220 James Franklin: I suppose would best be… Hello? There we go.

306 00:28:01.270 --> 00:28:02.210 James Franklin: Right.

307 00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:04.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on Save in the bottom right.

308 00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:16.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, now click on the little globe in the middle of the three icons on the top right.

309 00:28:16.830 --> 00:28:19.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. Piggyback to maps, yeah.

310 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:27.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now, if you go into your parish layers, And click on your test.

311 00:28:30.070 --> 00:28:35.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And… You might need to, zoom in a bit, because it's a bit small now.

312 00:28:38.020 --> 00:28:39.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click anywhere in there.

313 00:28:39.430 --> 00:28:39.820 James Franklin: That's mad.

314 00:28:39.820 --> 00:28:42.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click anywhere in the red box.

315 00:28:43.290 --> 00:28:44.189 James Franklin: There we go.

316 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:53.539 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That brings the record up. Now go into test. Now, now you can go in… oh, you're on the wrong record. You're in the parish record now, so… yeah, go to the test one.

317 00:28:54.360 --> 00:28:55.219 James Franklin: Not like that.

318 00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:57.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on the pencil to edit.

319 00:28:58.630 --> 00:28:59.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sounds good.

320 00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:00.930 James Franklin: Edit.

321 00:29:00.930 --> 00:29:02.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into category and make it a lake.

322 00:29:06.040 --> 00:29:06.999 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and say.

323 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:07.860 James Franklin: Confidence.

324 00:29:08.830 --> 00:29:16.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, we want to style this to make it look like everything else you've done, so if you click on the X at the top to close down the editor.

325 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:19.040 James Franklin: Yes.

326 00:29:19.040 --> 00:29:22.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Only… click on the tick at the end of the word test.

327 00:29:24.130 --> 00:29:27.089 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that's right. And then go into style.

328 00:29:29.530 --> 00:29:30.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then…

329 00:29:30.910 --> 00:29:39.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Assuming that you want to, have different colors for different things depending upon their category, you want to change in the left-hand column

330 00:29:40.330 --> 00:29:45.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Where it says Style Type, click on it there and change it to class-based.

331 00:29:46.870 --> 00:29:55.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Class-based? Yeah. Go into the class column and change it from name to category.

332 00:29:57.130 --> 00:30:04.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright, and if you want to enable, I would click it on Name, So… If you want to…

333 00:30:04.970 --> 00:30:08.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So click on the little down arrow and select name, right?

334 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:15.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you… that's… you're done with that first column now. In the middle column, under where the words Classes.

335 00:30:16.730 --> 00:30:23.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Your lake is going to show up as a red square, but if you'd like it to show up as a blue square, click on the color.

336 00:30:24.300 --> 00:30:28.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you get a choice of whatever color you'd like to choose for your lake.

337 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:28.540 James Franklin: Oops.

338 00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:30.650 James Franklin: Let's be turquoise, why not?

339 00:30:30.650 --> 00:30:33.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Of course, all town, lakes.

340 00:30:33.260 --> 00:30:34.229 tristram cary: All good legs.

341 00:30:34.230 --> 00:30:34.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, exactly.

342 00:30:34.930 --> 00:30:38.589 James Franklin: All good legs, and a lot of our legs are probably close to this.

343 00:30:39.510 --> 00:30:42.680 James Franklin: Let's go with the turquoise.

344 00:30:44.850 --> 00:30:45.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And…

345 00:30:45.410 --> 00:30:45.730 James Franklin: Okay.

346 00:30:45.730 --> 00:30:55.009 Graham Stoddart-Stones: For the moment, let's leave it at that for the moment. There are lots of other things you can do in styling, but let's not get too clever at this early stage, so just save that in the bottom right.

347 00:30:55.780 --> 00:31:02.940 James Franklin: I was gonna say I definitely need more function over style at this stage, but, maybe when I'm presenting, it'd be nice to…

348 00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:15.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now you can see you've controlled the change… the color of the lake is now blue because it's a category of lake, and if you draw any other lakes anywhere else and turn them blue by the same token.

349 00:31:15.740 --> 00:31:18.839 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you've also got a label to say which lake you're talking about.

350 00:31:19.990 --> 00:31:21.910 James Franklin: Okay, so if I… so…

351 00:31:22.870 --> 00:31:27.730 James Franklin: The next one would be this one. If I made this lake Lake 2, it would…

352 00:31:27.730 --> 00:31:33.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you can just go ahead and do it. Just click on your little… yup, add a feature.

353 00:31:34.570 --> 00:31:36.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And go and do your thing.

354 00:31:38.170 --> 00:31:40.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Remember to click once and then draw the mouse.

355 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:44.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

356 00:31:51.180 --> 00:31:54.710 James Franklin: Probably wildly out of the lake boundary, but…

357 00:31:55.740 --> 00:32:00.079 James Franklin: Well, we haven't actually decided what the lake boundary is yet, because we haven't…

358 00:32:00.080 --> 00:32:01.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, double-click on…

359 00:32:01.170 --> 00:32:01.490 James Franklin: And…

360 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:05.399 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I would give it a name, and a category, and a save.

361 00:32:06.510 --> 00:32:08.039 Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is, like, 2.

362 00:32:09.060 --> 00:32:11.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's also a lake, presumably.

363 00:32:13.050 --> 00:32:14.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you ought to save it.

364 00:32:15.150 --> 00:32:16.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Perfect.

365 00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:21.430 James Franklin: Marvellous, that's exactly what I need to have. Yeah, so then I can do…

366 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:32.630 James Franklin: So, one would assume that in the parish layer, my test layer could be Phase 1, and then I could do another parish layer that is Phase 2.

367 00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:34.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely, and you can have, like.

368 00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:35.409 James Franklin: the other ideas.

369 00:32:35.410 --> 00:32:39.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Different colors and different ways of differentiating between them.

370 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:47.310 tristram cary: Or you can make… or you can make phase another column, and color the phases. Phase 1 is green, phase two is blue.

371 00:32:47.630 --> 00:32:48.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

372 00:32:48.900 --> 00:32:50.799 James Franklin: So they can all be on the same map.

373 00:32:54.130 --> 00:32:56.819 James Franklin: Well, that definitely answers my question.

374 00:32:57.100 --> 00:33:05.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we'll let you take a breath there, James, and I'll just check if anyone else wants to say anything. Oh, I was going to say hello to Hazel, but I'm not sure if she's still there.

375 00:33:05.690 --> 00:33:06.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thanks for having me.

376 00:33:06.610 --> 00:33:07.340 James Franklin: to a…

377 00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:11.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep, still there. Oh, and we've got Maruk.

378 00:33:12.890 --> 00:33:13.909 James Franklin: There we are.

379 00:33:13.910 --> 00:33:20.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… Good afternoon, Hazel. Good to see you.

380 00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:23.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, and I'll say hello to Maruk, but I don't know…

381 00:33:25.210 --> 00:33:25.800 tristram cary: Isn't it?

382 00:33:25.800 --> 00:33:27.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Coming in?

383 00:33:27.570 --> 00:33:29.580 tristram cary: It's Helen, isn't it? Not Hazel?

384 00:33:29.580 --> 00:33:31.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Only to people who don't know her well.

385 00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:34.450 tristram cary: Oh, sorry. I apologize.

386 00:33:34.630 --> 00:33:38.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, it's alright. Good afternoon. Whereabouts are you?

387 00:33:38.540 --> 00:33:43.550 Mahrukh Awan: Good afternoon, thank you. Thank you for the session. I'm really enjoying the session and trying to learn Paresh online.

388 00:33:44.590 --> 00:33:46.360 Mahrukh Awan: I'm a volunteer here.

389 00:33:46.360 --> 00:33:47.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

390 00:33:47.610 --> 00:33:51.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, have you seen it before, or is this brand new?

391 00:33:51.560 --> 00:33:58.790 Mahrukh Awan: I attended a session two weeks, 2 or 3 weeks before, and this is my second session I'm attending. I'm working as a volunteer

392 00:33:58.990 --> 00:34:01.300 Mahrukh Awan: With Blackbird Leeds Parish Council.

393 00:34:02.290 --> 00:34:03.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

394 00:34:03.320 --> 00:34:04.000 Mahrukh Awan: Yes.

395 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good to see you. Do you have any specific questions for us today that you'd like answered?

396 00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:21.880 Mahrukh Awan: Well, I'm just learning at the moment, and I'm seeing how you're doing, because right now I don't have access, so I cannot practice at the moment, so if I have access to this website, then I'll be able to practice, and I can understand it in a better way.

397 00:34:21.889 --> 00:34:22.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

398 00:34:22.699 --> 00:34:23.389 Mahrukh Awan: Yeah.

399 00:34:23.389 --> 00:34:30.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, let's switch over then to Jean-Pierre and say, how are you doing, and do you need any specific points answered?

400 00:34:31.570 --> 00:34:33.570 Jean-Pierre Durand: Thank you.

401 00:34:33.980 --> 00:34:40.619 Jean-Pierre Durand: I've been playing with this at the same time as you, showing how to make lakes.

402 00:34:40.940 --> 00:34:48.740 Jean-Pierre Durand: We still have to put a lot of things in here, but, could I rely on the…

403 00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:53.490 Jean-Pierre Durand: Land registry overlay, is that… is that accurate?

404 00:34:54.620 --> 00:34:59.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, it is. I mean, the land registry is not perfect. They do have errors.

405 00:34:59.530 --> 00:35:01.669 Jean-Pierre Durand: Of course, the land registry itself, yes.

406 00:35:01.670 --> 00:35:04.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're very cooperative in changing things.

407 00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:08.799 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And they're very open to being told that

408 00:35:08.980 --> 00:35:11.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The lines they've got there are not quite right.

409 00:35:11.990 --> 00:35:16.019 Jean-Pierre Durand: This might not be a question for you, but if I found a little white box…

410 00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:22.420 Jean-Pierre Durand: With no number in it. I presume that is a record that Landridge doesn't have.

411 00:35:23.140 --> 00:35:26.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Would you like to share your screen? Are you in a position to share it with us?

412 00:35:26.830 --> 00:35:29.469 Jean-Pierre Durand: I…

413 00:35:30.100 --> 00:35:30.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: True.

414 00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:34.319 Jean-Pierre Durand: I'm using more than one device, so I'll tell you what.

415 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:34.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh my god.

416 00:35:34.910 --> 00:35:40.019 Jean-Pierre Durand: I'll quickly see if I can… because my screen is big.

417 00:35:40.020 --> 00:35:44.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You do get the choice in Zoom of going to Windows 2.

418 00:35:44.870 --> 00:35:48.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you've got two screens, it'll say go to the second screen.

419 00:35:48.080 --> 00:35:55.200 Jean-Pierre Durand: So, I've got two screens plus a device that I'm using for this, so it's additional things.

420 00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:56.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: rats.

421 00:35:56.100 --> 00:36:01.640 Jean-Pierre Durand: What I'll quickly do is I'll just go… I'll click on the link, you may have to let me in separately,

422 00:36:02.340 --> 00:36:10.779 Jean-Pierre Durand: And then I can share the screen. But in the meantime, while I figure this out, I don't know if someone else wants to go, and then… I don't want to keep people waiting for this.

423 00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:15.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you'd be amazed at how breathlessly we're all waiting for you to join us.

424 00:36:16.770 --> 00:36:23.090 tristram cary: Graham, while we're waiting, I'm right in saying that you can copy a polygon from one layer to another, aren't I?

425 00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:24.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You are.

426 00:36:24.390 --> 00:36:30.899 tristram cary: So if James wanted to copy a polygon rather than draw it afresh, he could do that from another layer.

427 00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:33.799 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And all that you say is true.

428 00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:36.820 Stuart Bacon: If the drawing… if the.

429 00:36:36.820 --> 00:36:37.590 tristram cary: Perhaps you'd accidentally.

430 00:36:37.590 --> 00:36:38.610 Stuart Bacon: don't exist.

431 00:36:41.130 --> 00:36:50.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I wondered if you wanted to say something other than lakes, because presumably lakes are each identifiable of being different shapes and sizes and things.

432 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.600 Jean-Pierre Durand: Recording in progress.

433 00:36:53.940 --> 00:36:58.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Jean-pierre is back very promptly.

434 00:36:59.270 --> 00:37:02.849 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, I've, I've, so now you'll have two instances of me.

435 00:37:02.850 --> 00:37:04.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I do.

436 00:37:06.270 --> 00:37:07.040 Jean-Pierre Durand: one.

437 00:37:07.860 --> 00:37:09.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Listen to camera shy.

438 00:37:09.750 --> 00:37:19.899 Jean-Pierre Durand: There's nothing I can do about that. But what I can do now is potentially share the screen. So, I shall do share.

439 00:37:20.220 --> 00:37:22.560 Jean-Pierre Durand: And then I need to choose Screen 1.

440 00:37:23.110 --> 00:37:24.080 Jean-Pierre Durand: Click share.

441 00:37:24.930 --> 00:37:26.199 Jean-Pierre Durand: Can people see me now?

442 00:37:26.570 --> 00:37:27.240 tristram cary: Just about.

443 00:37:27.660 --> 00:37:32.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's on its way, you… let me go. And yes, you have the land registries on, and oh…

444 00:37:33.640 --> 00:37:37.809 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, the white squares that you're suggesting are the ones that they have no knowledge of.

445 00:37:38.470 --> 00:37:41.940 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, no digital knowledge anyway, I would assume.

446 00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:46.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, most of the white there tend to be roads, so they're the ones in the middle?

447 00:37:46.570 --> 00:37:47.720 Jean-Pierre Durand: This big one here.

448 00:37:48.050 --> 00:37:49.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is that…

449 00:37:49.270 --> 00:37:55.760 Jean-Pierre Durand: actually our playing fields, but it doesn't have a number in it. Like, if I zoom in, you'll see all of them have numbers.

450 00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:56.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

451 00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:58.969 Jean-Pierre Durand: Zoom link to some title.

452 00:37:58.970 --> 00:37:59.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you…

453 00:37:59.500 --> 00:38:02.610 Stuart Bacon: Do you know when you brought your playing field, Jean-Pierre?

454 00:38:02.900 --> 00:38:11.540 Jean-Pierre Durand: So I, I must assume that this is pre-digitization with, with Land Registry.

455 00:38:11.890 --> 00:38:14.950 Jean-Pierre Durand: I've been a parish councillor for 2 months.

456 00:38:15.340 --> 00:38:24.279 Jean-Pierre Durand: So, and I'm the youngest one there, so I'm trying to make things a lot more digital and online and referenceable.

457 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:28.430 Jean-Pierre Durand: I don't know if there… there's no archive, so we wouldn't have…

458 00:38:28.600 --> 00:38:30.619 Jean-Pierre Durand: Physical deeds for any of this.

459 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.960 Jean-Pierre Durand: I'm just wondering how one goes about…

460 00:38:34.610 --> 00:38:38.630 Jean-Pierre Durand: Establishing, you know, which bits are… belong to whom.

461 00:38:38.630 --> 00:38:44.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me tell you about how you can work with the ones that are numbered. So if you zoom back in again.

462 00:38:45.010 --> 00:38:48.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on any one of the numbers, doesn't matter which.

463 00:38:49.620 --> 00:38:53.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And in your left column now, if you click on Cadastro Parcels.

464 00:38:53.990 --> 00:39:02.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it'll come up with the record, and if you look at the number at the top under Inspire ID, you can copy that, so please do.

465 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.629 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now go down to the word link below, and click on the link to the right.

466 00:39:08.780 --> 00:39:10.989 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, and that takes you to…

467 00:39:10.990 --> 00:39:11.380 Jean-Pierre Durand: Wow.

468 00:39:11.380 --> 00:39:14.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: buyer ID for the land registry.

469 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now you can just paste in that number, there you go.

470 00:39:19.810 --> 00:39:21.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're obviously on the ball for this.

471 00:39:23.410 --> 00:39:23.819 Jean-Pierre Durand: Thank you.

472 00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:29.809 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The record that comes up, if you scroll down now, It tells you…

473 00:39:29.970 --> 00:39:32.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: what documents you've got, so you need to go down…

474 00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:32.870 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes.

475 00:39:32.870 --> 00:39:37.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… There are documents,

476 00:39:37.730 --> 00:39:40.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can't get to see them or do anything with.

477 00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:40.750 Jean-Pierre Durand: start paying.

478 00:39:40.750 --> 00:39:42.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Without paying your money.

479 00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:51.280 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes. And this is very useful, because historic… like, if you… if we search the government's portal directly,

480 00:39:51.680 --> 00:39:53.799 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Takes you a long time to get to here.

481 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:58.520 Jean-Pierre Durand: It's… it… exactly, because you can't find… you don't know what the number is, and…

482 00:39:58.520 --> 00:39:59.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly.

483 00:39:59.050 --> 00:40:03.950 Jean-Pierre Durand: Not everything has an address or a postcode, so this is really…

484 00:40:04.050 --> 00:40:08.590 Jean-Pierre Durand: Awesome. The only issue is we cannot search this.

485 00:40:08.590 --> 00:40:17.199 John Roberts: The simple answer to that is, if land or property has not been registered with the land registry, you will see it as that white

486 00:40:17.490 --> 00:40:18.639 John Roberts: White square.

487 00:40:18.640 --> 00:40:23.919 Jean-Pierre Durand: That is what I'm expecting. The alarming thing is, if it's not registered with Land Registry.

488 00:40:24.100 --> 00:40:28.149 Jean-Pierre Durand: How does one prove ownership without a title?

489 00:40:29.970 --> 00:40:30.670 James Franklin: So we…

490 00:40:30.890 --> 00:40:33.890 Andrew Clegg: What happens if you click on the white square? You don't get.

491 00:40:35.680 --> 00:40:41.569 James Franklin: We've just had an allotment transferred over to us as part of a building development, and that was…

492 00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:52.979 James Franklin: In essence, in scrub land, as in it was never parceled up for… with the land registry for plots for houses, community services.

493 00:40:53.560 --> 00:40:59.099 James Franklin: even roads, it wasn't even linked in with the highway system, so it didn't exist. We had to…

494 00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:01.230 James Franklin: get it.

495 00:41:02.310 --> 00:41:11.859 James Franklin: registered with a land agency, mainly because we wanted standpipes for water on it, and the water board won't connect up water unless you've got a postcode, or you've got a…

496 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:21.879 James Franklin: some sort of registration for the land, you need somewhere to bill it to, essentially. So we've had this problem. We just approached

497 00:41:22.070 --> 00:41:27.830 James Franklin: Our legal team, and got them to get it registered, and now it is.

498 00:41:29.340 --> 00:41:31.780 Jean-Pierre Durand: You'll fancy having a legal team.

499 00:41:32.550 --> 00:41:33.190 James Franklin: Wow.

500 00:41:33.190 --> 00:41:35.150 Jean-Pierre Durand: I'm not even sure we have that.

501 00:41:35.150 --> 00:41:47.530 James Franklin: So, well, we… we don't have our own legal team. We have a legal team because we have developments being built within our parish boundaries that are actually being built by Eastleigh Borough Council, so…

502 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.249 James Franklin: We, we, we kind of have a…

503 00:41:52.000 --> 00:42:06.599 James Franklin: access to that in regards to the development. If it was just, you know, down in Pubbrook Meadow, which is our kind of woodland area, there was a parcel of land that was randomly not belonging to anyone, it would probably be more difficult, but as it's.

504 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:07.220 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah.

505 00:42:07.220 --> 00:42:13.300 James Franklin: as we're with the development… in a development stage, we had access to that. But I believe…

506 00:42:14.590 --> 00:42:21.609 James Franklin: there must… you must have some sort of historical records. We've had things going back where we've got… so we've got a,

507 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.129 James Franklin: Heritage Pavilion, we don't actually have any records

508 00:42:25.790 --> 00:42:35.020 James Franklin: suggesting that we own the Heritage Pavilion, but we have got a heritage Status by Historical Archive.

509 00:42:35.630 --> 00:42:53.139 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, and I think this is the thing, where does one… because the land registry typically will only… if they have a copy of a deed or ownership information, it will be online. So if it's not online, it must mean that they do not know…

510 00:42:53.720 --> 00:42:59.799 Stuart Bacon: who the owner is. The caveat to what you're saying,

511 00:43:00.230 --> 00:43:04.670 Stuart Bacon: Land Registry online documents only go back to the early 60s.

512 00:43:04.670 --> 00:43:06.219 Jean-Pierre Durand: 70s. Yeah.

513 00:43:06.220 --> 00:43:09.879 Stuart Bacon: So, if it was registered before the 1970s.

514 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:10.290 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes.

515 00:43:10.290 --> 00:43:27.779 Stuart Bacon: The deeds may well exist, but not be, sort of, with the, the land registry in a, sort of, format that they can, put online and do anything with. Exactly. So, the wisest thing I would say for you to do at the moment

516 00:43:27.790 --> 00:43:31.830 Stuart Bacon: It's potentially to enlist the help of…

517 00:43:32.170 --> 00:43:42.220 Stuart Bacon: a solicitor, a land conveyor, solicitor, who might be able to, sort of, seek out

518 00:43:42.550 --> 00:43:44.179 Stuart Bacon: Whether there were any…

519 00:43:44.910 --> 00:43:58.890 Stuart Bacon: Nearby, sort of, solicitors with you, within your remit, whatever, who have their details, and may hold the deeds for you, which might be, sort of, a quicker, easier way of resolving the problem.

520 00:43:58.890 --> 00:44:05.070 tristram cary: But Stuart, I'm not sure you even need a solicitor, because I remember that Land Registry used to have a sort of inquiry service.

521 00:44:05.090 --> 00:44:23.669 tristram cary: Because they were trying to get all the… you know, they were trying to make sure that all the parcels of land did have ownership and, you know, were properly registered. And I… didn't they have a… couldn't you ask a question and say, you know, I've got this… send them a screenshot of it, and say, do you have any physical records of this parcel?

522 00:44:25.340 --> 00:44:32.739 Stuart Bacon: You're welcome to try that, I mean, it may work, it's just, yeah, I was thinking, sort of, the…

523 00:44:33.650 --> 00:44:40.440 Stuart Bacon: the way Jean-Pierre was speaking, he might want assistance in completing the registry documentation.

524 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.170 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, I think, I think…

525 00:44:43.530 --> 00:45:02.040 Jean-Pierre Durand: what my concern is, it's very obvious that this white bit here, and I think I'm missing an ordinance survey overlay. There should be a map or something that you can actually see a road and other boundaries. I think I might have turned something off. But… which one is it? Do you know?

526 00:45:02.080 --> 00:45:05.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you come… go into the, first one.

527 00:45:06.390 --> 00:45:12.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Individual and turn off the ones you've got ticked there. Turn off those.

528 00:45:13.060 --> 00:45:20.009 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And that one. Now go down to the next, green collection, into that then, and select Standard.

529 00:45:20.180 --> 00:45:21.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the first one.

530 00:45:22.080 --> 00:45:25.430 Jean-Pierre Durand: Oh, perfect, thank you so much. Yeah, so this…

531 00:45:25.430 --> 00:45:32.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've got one other point for you, Jean-Pierre, which might be very helpful, which is, if you,

532 00:45:32.970 --> 00:45:35.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go up to…

533 00:45:36.620 --> 00:45:42.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the columns of the… at the top line, which are the menu columns, and look at the one called print.

534 00:45:43.570 --> 00:45:50.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you just click on that, and just go… for the right now, just go down to the bottom and click on the word print.

535 00:45:52.660 --> 00:45:57.029 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it takes a few seconds, because it's doing it all up in the cloud for you.

536 00:45:57.200 --> 00:46:01.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But when that circle finishes, you can now scroll down a little bit.

537 00:46:02.780 --> 00:46:06.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you scroll down the left-hand column, Yeah, there you go.

538 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:06.720 Jean-Pierre Durand: Huh.

539 00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:09.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on the arrow to the right, that one.

540 00:46:10.410 --> 00:46:20.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now what you… you're gonna see is the printout, and you can… you could send that to somebody as a URL, for instance, or sorry, a PDF.

541 00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:21.010 Jean-Pierre Durand: A PDF.

542 00:46:21.010 --> 00:46:23.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then they know what you're talking about.

543 00:46:23.870 --> 00:46:25.650 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, this is perfect.

544 00:46:25.650 --> 00:46:36.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the other thing that can be helpful is to, do the same thing, but turn the land registry line or layer off, and turn the post office,

545 00:46:36.770 --> 00:46:44.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Postal code layer on, and then they can see the postal codes that you're talking about, because that might help them identify something as well.

546 00:46:44.860 --> 00:46:48.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go down, go down through the brown layers to addresses.

547 00:46:50.050 --> 00:46:56.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And click on that, and go into postal code. You might want to turn off the land registry layers, they get a bit confused if they're both on at the same time.

548 00:46:56.600 --> 00:46:58.559 Jean-Pierre Durand: Oh, I see.

549 00:46:58.560 --> 00:47:01.370 Stuart Bacon: Turn the postcodes on now, while you've got it.

550 00:47:01.370 --> 00:47:01.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

551 00:47:01.850 --> 00:47:08.539 Jean-Pierre Durand: And then land registry, or… Oh, that's okay, I can still see how that works, yes, so NG32. Understood.

552 00:47:09.050 --> 00:47:10.000 Jean-Pierre Durand: Okay.

553 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:10.540 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.

554 00:47:10.870 --> 00:47:11.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that, dot.

555 00:47:11.830 --> 00:47:28.600 Jean-Pierre Durand: It helps a lot, actually. Thank you. Yes, because this is our Village Green, and has been for 600 years, but according to Land Registry, it isn't. So, I just want to make sure no unscrupulous developer decides that this now belongs to them.

556 00:47:28.600 --> 00:47:29.300 tristram cary: Good question.

557 00:47:29.300 --> 00:47:36.529 Stuart Bacon: In terms of your Village Green, that should be registered with your, county council.

558 00:47:36.970 --> 00:47:44.090 Stuart Bacon: And they should hold record of that as a… if it's a registered village green or not.

559 00:47:44.220 --> 00:47:50.630 Stuart Bacon: So you could check their records, to see whether they, sort of, have the detail for you, which might help you.

560 00:47:50.630 --> 00:47:55.180 Jean-Pierre Durand: be able to sort of establish, the deed situation, or whatever that might. Thank you.

561 00:47:55.180 --> 00:47:55.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: students.

562 00:47:55.940 --> 00:47:57.670 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, the lowest…

563 00:47:57.670 --> 00:48:03.309 Graham Stoddart-Stones: of the brown layers on your screen at the moment is Lincolnshire County Council.

564 00:48:03.450 --> 00:48:05.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You… gone a bit too far.

565 00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:06.730 Jean-Pierre Durand: Oh.

566 00:48:07.060 --> 00:48:07.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

567 00:48:08.070 --> 00:48:09.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I meant on the screen you're actually on.

568 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:10.330 Retired Clerk: Sure, right?

569 00:48:10.330 --> 00:48:12.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Scroll down, like, go up, go up…

570 00:48:12.890 --> 00:48:14.600 Stuart Bacon: Oh, I'll have a couple.

571 00:48:14.600 --> 00:48:15.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

572 00:48:15.250 --> 00:48:16.059 Jean-Pierre Durand: Thank you.

573 00:48:16.060 --> 00:48:18.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just click on there and see what they export to you.

574 00:48:18.710 --> 00:48:19.320 Retired Clerk: It may be…

575 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:20.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

576 00:48:22.570 --> 00:48:23.710 Retired Clerk: This girl died.

577 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:25.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, nothing there.

578 00:48:25.520 --> 00:48:30.810 James Franklin: Just trying to find old and strange things that…

579 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:40.189 James Franklin: exist in the very weird village of Botley, that actually the Borough Council and the County Council archives

580 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.380 James Franklin: held, because we had… we installed a path, and someone had…

581 00:48:44.950 --> 00:48:53.839 James Franklin: Complain that we were too close to their property, but actually, whilst looking through the archives, it turned out that their property had had a bit of a land grab of 4.5 meters.

582 00:48:55.380 --> 00:49:03.960 Retired Clerk: So their property was essentially four and a half meters longer than everyone else's, for absolutely no good reason other than moving a fence.

583 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:10.519 James Franklin: So… but I didn't… we couldn't find that information until I went to Winchester County… Winchester, to Hampshire County Council.

584 00:49:10.860 --> 00:49:16.510 James Franklin: And looked in the archive and found that record from, like, 1918, when they…

585 00:49:16.510 --> 00:49:18.159 Jean-Pierre Durand: What's an example of that as well.

586 00:49:19.010 --> 00:49:19.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, exactly.

587 00:49:19.540 --> 00:49:20.659 Jean-Pierre Durand: I don't know if you can see this.

588 00:49:20.660 --> 00:49:21.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, of course.

589 00:49:22.240 --> 00:49:24.250 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah, people have decided they're front gone.

590 00:49:24.250 --> 00:49:27.209 James Franklin: Register it, or you can do it and purchase.

591 00:49:27.580 --> 00:49:28.110 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes.

592 00:49:28.110 --> 00:49:28.560 James Franklin: You could.

593 00:49:28.560 --> 00:49:29.690 Jean-Pierre Durand: During a purchase convey.

594 00:49:29.690 --> 00:49:37.319 James Franklin: land block. Yes, but… If you… if you don't have the record for it, and someone's property just appears

595 00:49:37.610 --> 00:49:43.969 James Franklin: Bigger than everyone else's, and the last time an ornament survey map was drawn, it was drawn that way.

596 00:49:43.970 --> 00:49:47.730 Jean-Pierre Durand: We had to go back to the original plans of.

597 00:49:47.730 --> 00:49:58.619 James Franklin: 1918, I think it was, to see where the buildings… where the plots were originally, but that data isn't available unless you go into a dusty old book and find it. Yes.

598 00:49:58.970 --> 00:50:10.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it depends on where you are, because I noticed that, A, there's very good news for you, Jean-Pierre, in the fact that Lincolnshire County Council is exporting data.

599 00:50:10.430 --> 00:50:20.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because a lot of them don't export any, so this is very nice to know that you get some. The other thing to do is to notice that they're not exporting very much to you.

600 00:50:20.260 --> 00:50:20.820 Jean-Pierre Durand: No.

601 00:50:20.820 --> 00:50:28.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, just to give you a… something… some context, If you are, in…

602 00:50:28.420 --> 00:50:34.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the area of the country known as Bath and northeast Somerset, they export 400 layers of information.

603 00:50:34.850 --> 00:50:35.700 Jean-Pierre Durand: Wow.

604 00:50:35.700 --> 00:50:50.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lincolnshire is giving you about 10, but because they've started, they've made a start, the chances are that you can probably persuade somebody just to open up the archives for anything they've got digitally stored, they should be able to export to you along with everything else.

605 00:50:51.020 --> 00:50:53.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which would save you a huge amount of time.

606 00:50:53.640 --> 00:50:58.650 Jean-Pierre Durand: And would they… how would they export this? What is the actual way of doing this? Do they… would they know?

607 00:50:58.650 --> 00:51:02.309 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have you… have you come across the help system yet in Parish Online?

608 00:51:03.220 --> 00:51:10.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No. So, okay, go up to the little menu at the top, marked Help. A little bit of a giveaway, really. Go into…

609 00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:17.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into Knowledge Base, And… If you wait for it to come up.

610 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:23.630 Retired Clerk: Mushroom chooses…

611 00:51:23.630 --> 00:51:27.299 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. If you go to where it says Search Articles at the top.

612 00:51:28.990 --> 00:51:31.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, clicking the… type cancel data.

613 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:33.550 Retired Clerk: How much did we put in last year.

614 00:51:34.330 --> 00:51:39.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? And then if you follow that, it gives you all the instructions on what to do.

615 00:51:41.090 --> 00:51:45.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the beauty of it is, is that once you've gone through this.

616 00:51:45.710 --> 00:51:51.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: then it is… you'd be astonished at how fast it is for Paris Online to pick up the data.

617 00:51:51.420 --> 00:51:52.850 Jean-Pierre Durand: This is incredible. Wow.

618 00:51:52.850 --> 00:51:57.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're really talking about just a couple of seconds to pick the data up. It's astonishing.

619 00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:10.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it really is fabulous. So, go through the steps there, because Paris Online won't touch you until you've actually gone through those steps, but having done that, then you'll find that they're incredibly supportive.

620 00:52:10.510 --> 00:52:12.679 Jean-Pierre Durand: Thank you. Thank you, this is very useful.

621 00:52:12.810 --> 00:52:13.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup.

622 00:52:13.770 --> 00:52:15.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's what we do.

623 00:52:18.470 --> 00:52:24.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's just check with anybody else that we're not all biting their fingers, desperate to pass on some words of wisdom.

624 00:52:24.900 --> 00:52:25.700 Retired Clerk: Word.

625 00:52:25.700 --> 00:52:30.970 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Just on the last point, Parish Online is quick, but your councils.

626 00:52:30.970 --> 00:52:31.820 Jean-Pierre Durand: No.

627 00:52:31.820 --> 00:52:32.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No.

628 00:52:32.910 --> 00:52:33.410 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yo.

629 00:52:33.410 --> 00:52:39.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, that's very true. It all depends on individuals. If you can find the right person.

630 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it makes all the difference in the world.

631 00:52:42.890 --> 00:52:47.179 James Franklin: Is it slightly easier if they share some, but not all?

632 00:52:47.710 --> 00:52:51.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So get them to share the rest. Exactly. Yes, you've got…

633 00:52:51.790 --> 00:52:52.560 James Franklin: I have.

634 00:52:52.980 --> 00:52:57.530 James Franklin: biodiversity information from Hampshire and nothing else.

635 00:52:58.060 --> 00:53:07.440 James Franklin: But I'm assuming someone's requested that at some point, or they've offered that at some point. So the gateway's open, I just need to request more, and then it should…

636 00:53:07.560 --> 00:53:09.090 James Franklin: fly them down.

637 00:53:09.090 --> 00:53:10.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's right.

638 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:22.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a wonderful nuclear option, which I'm still waiting for somebody to take it up at their local council, but there is legislation that says they must share public information for…

639 00:53:22.020 --> 00:53:22.530 Jean-Pierre Durand: you.

640 00:53:22.530 --> 00:53:24.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In the most convenient way.

641 00:53:25.100 --> 00:53:26.010 Retired Clerk: And…

642 00:53:26.110 --> 00:53:39.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're surrounded by a bunch of mild-mannered and peaceful counsellors, but if you have someone who's a bit more aggressive, then they should go and say, please do this, or we shall have at you.

643 00:53:40.240 --> 00:53:41.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm just waiting desperately.

644 00:53:41.740 --> 00:53:43.390 Retired Clerk: For someone to have at them.

645 00:53:44.670 --> 00:53:47.609 James Franklin: Because in my case, it'd be really interesting to get

646 00:53:48.190 --> 00:53:54.049 James Franklin: planning data into Parish Online, because we're going through a massive

647 00:53:54.750 --> 00:54:07.119 James Franklin: if you were to think of Botley Parish as 100%, 70% of that is new development. Yes. So, we're getting such a massive development that actually being able to see planning on parish online would be really useful.

648 00:54:07.120 --> 00:54:13.709 Jean-Pierre Durand: We do appear to have planning on here, which is… which I… which is quite useful. I can show you what it looks like if you wanted to see.

649 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:15.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Appreciate it.

650 00:54:16.210 --> 00:54:19.229 Jean-Pierre Durand: Now I need to figure out how to share the screen again, huh?

651 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:28.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, James, just to give you a slight caveat, so the planning information that's held at Council level.

652 00:54:29.390 --> 00:54:34.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Tends to be almost so murky as to be useless to us.

653 00:54:34.710 --> 00:54:35.580 James Franklin: Okay.

654 00:54:35.580 --> 00:54:42.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you do get a huge amount of information, and the problem is, it probably goes back many years.

655 00:54:42.560 --> 00:54:56.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the filtering system in Paris Online only filters on one level at a time, which is not efficient. You want to be able to do year and geography and something else and so forth, but at the moment, we aren't there yet.

656 00:54:59.080 --> 00:54:59.600 James Franklin: Oh, okay.

657 00:55:00.240 --> 00:55:03.879 Jean-Pierre Durand: So this shows… And then I presume there's a…

658 00:55:08.120 --> 00:55:10.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you put this in yourself?

659 00:55:10.770 --> 00:55:14.519 Jean-Pierre Durand: No, this was luckily, so we have a,

660 00:55:15.010 --> 00:55:24.160 Jean-Pierre Durand: We have both Lincolnshire County Council as well as South Khivan District Council. Right. South Kostehen are responsible for,

661 00:55:24.380 --> 00:55:26.550 Jean-Pierre Durand: Planning applications in our area.

662 00:55:26.550 --> 00:55:28.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Admission, and that's how you…

663 00:55:28.260 --> 00:55:28.889 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yes, yes, that's true.

664 00:55:28.890 --> 00:55:31.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, that's very useful indeed.

665 00:55:31.630 --> 00:55:31.950 Jean-Pierre Durand: Yeah.

666 00:55:31.950 --> 00:55:33.350 Retired Clerk: That's not wordable.

667 00:55:33.350 --> 00:55:39.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so it's another thing for James, that it all depends which category area you're in.

668 00:55:39.510 --> 00:55:40.140 Retired Clerk: Beautiful.

669 00:55:40.140 --> 00:55:47.700 James Franklin: We're in that testy period at the moment that our local borough Council, Eastley Borough Council, in 2008, won't exist.

670 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:56.590 James Franklin: Yes. So, their willingness to do a lot of things is fairly slim, because they won't exist soon.

671 00:55:57.190 --> 00:55:58.010 James Franklin: So…

672 00:55:58.010 --> 00:55:59.219 Jean-Pierre Durand: Oh, the same here.

673 00:55:59.490 --> 00:56:01.909 Jean-Pierre Durand: With the whole restructuring, yeah.

674 00:56:02.370 --> 00:56:03.130 James Franklin: Yeah.

675 00:56:07.160 --> 00:56:09.270 James Franklin: But we're getting there, we just, you know…

676 00:56:10.310 --> 00:56:10.980 Retired Clerk: It's…

677 00:56:11.460 --> 00:56:16.009 James Franklin: It's just… it's an interesting time, isn't it? Interesting time.

678 00:56:16.240 --> 00:56:18.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I, I feel,

679 00:56:18.240 --> 00:56:24.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm very aware of the fact that we promised two people that we'd answer their questions, even though they haven't shown up today.

680 00:56:25.620 --> 00:56:35.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, we need to… Who are those? That's David, is it? David is one of them, and the other one is a lady from one of the other councils of.

681 00:56:36.080 --> 00:56:38.259 tristram cary: Hang on a second, I can look it up for you.

682 00:56:40.160 --> 00:56:42.879 James Franklin: I don't know, this is a name and shame time.

683 00:56:43.140 --> 00:56:47.020 James Franklin: He didn't turn up. He didn't turn up, who are you?

684 00:56:47.020 --> 00:56:56.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, David is from a small, little tiny village in Hampshire, and Claire is from Marmsbury.

685 00:56:56.770 --> 00:57:02.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And what Claire needs is a list of all the commercial buildings in her area.

686 00:57:03.330 --> 00:57:07.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I'm gonna ask if Stuart can walk us through that.

687 00:57:07.600 --> 00:57:09.539 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just because you're looking very bored.

688 00:57:09.540 --> 00:57:15.660 Stuart Bacon: No, I'm sorry, no, apologies if I'm, giving that, negative impression.

689 00:57:15.660 --> 00:57:16.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, no, no, no, she's.

690 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:23.280 Stuart Bacon: Sorry, I'm just, pulling up the stuff so I've got the right thing on the screen.

691 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.179 tristram cary: James, can I just ask, James, are you new to Botley?

692 00:57:27.200 --> 00:57:34.240 James Franklin: Exactly tomorrow, while I've been in position as the operations manager for one month.

693 00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:35.369 tristram cary: One more minute.

694 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:43.800 James Franklin: But it's my understanding that I didn't really exist before, as in there wasn't… my position wasn't…

695 00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:45.330 tristram cary: Really, absolutely.

696 00:57:46.010 --> 00:57:49.139 James Franklin: an entity before, so.

697 00:57:49.380 --> 00:57:51.049 tristram cary: So you work with Chris Cooper?

698 00:57:51.900 --> 00:57:52.680 James Franklin: Yes.

699 00:57:52.680 --> 00:57:54.230 tristram cary: Yeah, brilliant. Good.

700 00:57:56.770 --> 00:58:00.919 James Franklin: I'm his Swiss Army penknife. I deal with land and buildings and…

701 00:58:01.330 --> 00:58:06.759 James Franklin: all the other things that… he doesn't… he's not a fan of trees, so I'm taking them on as well.

702 00:58:07.020 --> 00:58:09.150 Stuart Bacon: Oh, you're gonna say you're tacking them out?

703 00:58:09.350 --> 00:58:09.920 James Franklin: No.

704 00:58:10.520 --> 00:58:17.540 James Franklin: No, not taking them out, but trying to… trying to calm the irrational fear of every given moment a tree might fall on something.

705 00:58:18.150 --> 00:58:18.600 Stuart Bacon: Oh, okay.

706 00:58:18.600 --> 00:58:20.170 James Franklin: It won't.

707 00:58:20.300 --> 00:58:32.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, just for context's sake, this example now is for the benefit of Claire from Malmesbury, so if she looks at our video after the session, she'll know that this is for her.

708 00:58:33.250 --> 00:58:39.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm quite happy for you to do the speaking, Stuart, if you'd like to be.

709 00:58:39.990 --> 00:58:46.589 Stuart Bacon: Sorry, I was just letting, James finish. Yeah, no, so… Just going in now,

710 00:58:48.040 --> 00:58:55.429 Stuart Bacon: Once logged in, you come down to Addresses, and the address base plus points

711 00:58:56.070 --> 00:59:07.619 Stuart Bacon: Within that, we'll give you the ability to sort of see, differentiators between the different types of,

712 00:59:08.950 --> 00:59:18.510 Stuart Bacon: building and whatever within your area. You've got, sort of, yeah, 7 options there that it delineates between.

713 00:59:18.640 --> 00:59:25.700 Stuart Bacon: And if… Claire is looking for purely the commercial, is it?

714 00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:26.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

715 00:59:26.770 --> 00:59:30.659 Stuart Bacon: Yep. So then we need to filter.

716 00:59:30.930 --> 00:59:34.460 Stuart Bacon: The… the type.

717 00:59:40.050 --> 00:59:44.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think it's probably BLPU class or classification, one of those two.

718 00:59:46.420 --> 00:59:49.909 Stuart Bacon: Which… they are PU class, sorry, yeah.

719 00:59:49.910 --> 00:59:50.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think so.

720 00:59:50.720 --> 00:59:53.030 Stuart Bacon: Equals, and then…

721 00:59:53.030 --> 00:59:56.639 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Probably commercial. Oh, no, I think you need to go classification.

722 00:59:58.940 --> 01:00:02.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Next one down. Keep going down. Yep.

723 01:00:05.510 --> 01:00:09.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. So if you went to commercial, or are they all…

724 01:00:10.370 --> 01:00:11.739 Stuart Bacon: That's wider than 7.

725 01:00:11.740 --> 01:00:14.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Much wider, isn't it? Yeah, maybe it's not gonna work… okay.

726 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:21.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, whilst you're playing around, let me look at some data and see if we can see what classification helps you.

727 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:24.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Put it up here.

728 01:00:27.040 --> 01:00:28.909 Stuart Bacon: Hey, what's probably the easiest way.

729 01:00:51.710 --> 01:00:54.049 tristram cary: I thought it was BLPU classification.

730 01:00:56.090 --> 01:00:57.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

731 01:00:58.160 --> 01:01:07.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: On my BRPQO testification, I don't think you've got… Discussion.

732 01:01:07.090 --> 01:01:08.230 Stuart Bacon: And I'm sick.

733 01:01:09.720 --> 01:01:11.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm in an area that's got nothing but…

734 01:01:15.030 --> 01:01:16.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: semi-detached businesses.

735 01:01:31.290 --> 01:01:32.690 tristram cary: In this field.

736 01:01:32.910 --> 01:01:33.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is.

737 01:01:36.950 --> 01:01:40.209 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What happens if you scroll all the way down to get beyond the letters?

738 01:01:41.850 --> 01:01:46.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Otherwise, you're gonna have to ask what the codes are for your area.

739 01:01:46.530 --> 01:01:47.180 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.

740 01:01:49.070 --> 01:01:51.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've not actually seen these before.

741 01:01:52.180 --> 01:01:54.159 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Just start typing.

742 01:01:56.450 --> 01:01:57.709 tristram cary: Yeah, that's a good idea.

743 01:01:57.710 --> 01:01:58.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You could try.

744 01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you say commercial?

745 01:02:02.460 --> 01:02:03.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No.

746 01:02:03.290 --> 01:02:03.920 Stuart Bacon: Nope.

747 01:02:04.110 --> 01:02:06.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, there's no data there, yep.

748 01:02:07.590 --> 01:02:08.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Weird.

749 01:02:08.710 --> 01:02:16.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, again, for Claire's, view. If you… can you go briefly into table view mode?

750 01:02:16.680 --> 01:02:18.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Please, Stuart.

751 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:22.269 Stuart Bacon: I agree, yep.

752 01:02:22.530 --> 01:02:34.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you could, again, for Claire's benefit, you could scroll down through the classification there, where it says semi-detached and terraced and so forth, and in an area where there are

753 01:02:34.650 --> 01:02:38.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: businesses, they will say what they are.

754 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:46.720 tristram cary: There is, there is a classification, because that's where the legend is pulling out blue.

755 01:02:46.720 --> 01:02:49.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's one called Commercial, right there.

756 01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:50.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In the middle.

757 01:02:50.450 --> 01:02:51.230 Stuart Bacon: There you go.

758 01:02:52.120 --> 01:02:53.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so…

759 01:02:53.420 --> 01:02:53.920 Stuart Bacon: Okay.

760 01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:55.120 tristram cary: There's a C.

761 01:02:55.370 --> 01:02:57.419 tristram cary: She's in Boston,

762 01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:03.469 Stuart Bacon: So, if I then filter again… That's good.

763 01:03:03.470 --> 01:03:05.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: costs, yep.

764 01:03:05.540 --> 01:03:07.679 Stuart Bacon: Car sequenced C.

765 01:03:08.560 --> 01:03:09.640 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): starts with…

766 01:03:09.640 --> 01:03:11.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, see, yum.

767 01:03:11.890 --> 01:03:14.299 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Starts with instead of equals.

768 01:03:14.300 --> 01:03:15.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It looks like you've got a.

769 01:03:15.740 --> 01:03:16.870 tristram cary: I mean, it starts with…

770 01:03:16.870 --> 01:03:17.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: him.

771 01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:18.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

772 01:03:20.660 --> 01:03:28.239 Stuart Bacon: So we're gonna, but I'm just concerned that if we start with C, then pull all the other…

773 01:03:28.510 --> 01:03:30.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly, all the other seas are.

774 01:03:30.170 --> 01:03:31.140 tristram cary: Yeah, that's true.

775 01:03:31.620 --> 01:03:34.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I think C is a good one to…

776 01:03:35.870 --> 01:03:38.889 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Except it was class, not classification.

777 01:03:44.140 --> 01:03:47.639 Stuart Bacon: There's lots of… That's the Shorestar center, that's not…

778 01:03:47.640 --> 01:03:49.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Children's center, yeah, fair enough.

779 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:50.649 Stuart Bacon: It's not the leisure center.

780 01:03:51.420 --> 01:03:54.810 Stuart Bacon: Just out the Leisure center one, which is this part of the building.

781 01:03:54.810 --> 01:03:55.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

782 01:03:56.530 --> 01:03:59.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's very precise, then, is it? Right, okay.

783 01:03:59.330 --> 01:03:59.970 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.

784 01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:04.560 Stuart Bacon: Because, I mean, if I… if I turn the filter off, So, you'll see there's the…

785 01:04:04.560 --> 01:04:06.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Some more than that, yeah, okay.

786 01:04:06.770 --> 01:04:09.210 Stuart Bacon: And others… yeah.

787 01:04:09.520 --> 01:04:14.710 Stuart Bacon: So it's… by being precise, it's… Cutting out those…

788 01:04:15.160 --> 01:04:18.520 Stuart Bacon: And I can't choose commercial, which is really…

789 01:04:18.520 --> 01:04:24.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so again, for Claire, if you could show her exporting the data so she can use it in a spreadsheet.

790 01:04:29.040 --> 01:04:35.090 Stuart Bacon: Okay, so, first off, I guess we need to… .

791 01:04:35.170 --> 01:04:36.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Put a filter on.

792 01:04:36.070 --> 01:04:37.050 Stuart Bacon: April, June.

793 01:04:37.050 --> 01:04:37.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

794 01:04:37.370 --> 01:04:39.325 Stuart Bacon: And…

795 01:04:42.580 --> 01:04:45.340 Stuart Bacon: You're wanting to…

796 01:04:45.340 --> 01:04:45.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

797 01:04:46.180 --> 01:04:52.410 Stuart Bacon: locality marine… kind of tangles… Change in April.

798 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:56.880 Stuart Bacon: Oops.

799 01:04:58.190 --> 01:05:01.779 Stuart Bacon: Why is that one giving me one street records, I wouldn't?

800 01:05:02.230 --> 01:05:03.879 Stuart Bacon: There's more than none.

801 01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:07.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, because you've gone for locality name,

802 01:05:08.060 --> 01:05:10.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You think you'd get a lot more than that, wouldn't you?

803 01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:11.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

804 01:05:11.580 --> 01:05:12.180 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.

805 01:05:12.390 --> 01:05:13.750 Stuart Bacon: That's not…

806 01:05:13.750 --> 01:05:15.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, you need a value in there, yup.

807 01:05:18.560 --> 01:05:22.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Anyway, the point being, for Claire's point of view, is that she wants…

808 01:05:22.270 --> 01:05:28.080 Stuart Bacon: And you can export… once you've brought it down just to your town, rather than the entirety of the country.

809 01:05:28.680 --> 01:05:36.160 Stuart Bacon: Then, yeah, you can export that data to a… To a CSV,

810 01:05:36.540 --> 01:05:38.849 Stuart Bacon: Yep, you want to include the matter.

811 01:05:43.560 --> 01:05:45.629 Stuart Bacon: I'm not now workshop.

812 01:05:46.420 --> 01:05:46.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

813 01:05:47.300 --> 01:05:49.400 Stuart Bacon: That now brings up all of these.

814 01:05:50.500 --> 01:05:51.750 Stuart Bacon: the data.

815 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:55.050 Stuart Bacon: Does that include me.

816 01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.830 Stuart Bacon: Perhaps gives me, actually, a better way of doing it.

817 01:05:58.370 --> 01:06:04.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But I was wondering if you just… you could go back and just select the parish count record, and then do a data extract.

818 01:06:06.690 --> 01:06:10.010 Stuart Bacon: Commercial.

819 01:06:10.260 --> 01:06:10.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That works.

820 01:06:10.750 --> 01:06:11.430 Stuart Bacon: Absolutely.

821 01:06:12.560 --> 01:06:18.539 Stuart Bacon: Sort of there, yeah, that boat has grown up some of.

822 01:06:19.520 --> 01:06:22.809 Stuart Bacon: The commercial business, but there are…

823 01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.979 Stuart Bacon: orders, so it would be a case of understanding

824 01:06:27.150 --> 01:06:36.129 Stuart Bacon: What categorizations you want that you can… Pick those out from… the list by filtering.

825 01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:40.940 Stuart Bacon: Office.

826 01:06:41.660 --> 01:06:42.740 Stuart Bacon: Well, I've been…

827 01:06:47.070 --> 01:06:48.310 Stuart Bacon: Orion's host.

828 01:06:56.690 --> 01:07:00.170 Stuart Bacon: Choose what you want, and at least then that expands the

829 01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.890 Stuart Bacon: The option available to you, the available… Very useful.

830 01:07:04.890 --> 01:07:12.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Cool. And could you just go back and show selecting the parish record, and then do a data extract on addresses?

831 01:07:16.940 --> 01:07:20.870 Stuart Bacon: Yep, let's see my budget.

832 01:07:23.010 --> 01:07:28.429 Stuart Bacon: So that is the address base. That was all of it… all we've just pulled through again, going.

833 01:07:28.680 --> 01:07:35.590 Stuart Bacon: We've just done the data extract on the… on the parish by having chosen from the town name.

834 01:07:36.240 --> 01:07:43.989 Stuart Bacon: Contains that, and then you've got all of the… All of the properties within

835 01:07:44.530 --> 01:07:46.659 Stuart Bacon: Within the parish.

836 01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:49.019 Stuart Bacon: An extension.

837 01:07:49.210 --> 01:07:52.050 Stuart Bacon: And that's what we've just, sort of, opened.

838 01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:01.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and if for… second question for David this time…

839 01:08:02.050 --> 01:08:05.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you can go back to just a regular map of your parish, please.

840 01:08:07.770 --> 01:08:14.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I'll talk you through what I think David is looking for. So, if you can turn off the address space…

841 01:08:14.730 --> 01:08:26.209 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think David is looking to acquaint his parish council with features on the roads that they want to change, and he wants to be able to show them

842 01:08:26.649 --> 01:08:37.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: digitally where the stuff is, which I think what he wants to do is to annotate stuff, Stuart. So if you take your crossroads in the middle of the village there, yeah.

843 01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:46.629 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and say, that is the piece that you… the triangle in the middle is the bit you want to remove, let's just say for that. So, could you annotate that, please?

844 01:08:47.540 --> 01:08:51.849 Stuart Bacon: Yep. You're going up to Tools Annotate. Tools and Annotate, yep.

845 01:08:51.859 --> 01:08:53.839 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And create a new object.

846 01:08:54.969 --> 01:08:57.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it's gonna be a polygon, yeah.

847 01:08:58.249 --> 01:09:01.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so you just draw that around. Perfect.

848 01:09:01.259 --> 01:09:04.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whilst you're there, if you give it a label and a name…

849 01:09:04.969 --> 01:09:10.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Like, removing the triangle, say. So use label… yeah.

850 01:09:10.930 --> 01:09:11.680 Stuart Bacon: Come on, fuck.

851 01:09:11.689 --> 01:09:14.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Should we remove this triangle, something like that, yep.

852 01:09:18.779 --> 01:09:21.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you can finish, done. Okay.

853 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:25.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if you zoom out and close down the left-hand column.

854 01:09:26.869 --> 01:09:36.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you can imagine, David, if you've done this several times throughout your area, you'd then have all of the bits you want to remove showing on the map at once.

855 01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:42.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And there is a button there called, at the top left, called Annotate All.

856 01:09:44.369 --> 01:09:52.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go up a little bit, Stuart, to the icons at the top there, the one on the right, second in from the right is Annotate all, yeah.

857 01:09:52.789 --> 01:09:59.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that will just show, if you click on that, it will show every annotation that you've made, all on one map.

858 01:09:59.449 --> 01:10:02.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which I think is what David is trying to do.

859 01:10:02.909 --> 01:10:07.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So… Thank you very much, you've just answered his question. I hope.

860 01:10:09.440 --> 01:10:16.599 Stuart Bacon: Sorry, it just seems that the maps were taking a moment to, to load. We're not getting…

861 01:10:16.860 --> 01:10:17.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

862 01:10:17.510 --> 01:10:18.620 Stuart Bacon: Honestly.

863 01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:20.490 Stuart Bacon: All of them up and down, so…

864 01:10:20.970 --> 01:10:23.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you will live in third world country, what do you expect?

865 01:10:23.460 --> 01:10:30.530 Stuart Bacon: With a… sort of… Big connection, I'm expecting better quality, to be fair.

866 01:10:30.530 --> 01:10:31.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

867 01:10:31.020 --> 01:10:37.410 Stuart Bacon: But, yeah, it seems to be from parish online, the, the map refresh is not…

868 01:10:37.610 --> 01:10:38.980 Stuart Bacon: Coming on daily.

869 01:10:40.550 --> 01:10:43.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is very slow at the moment, isn't it? Of course, it is Friday afternoon.

870 01:10:43.940 --> 01:10:50.969 Stuart Bacon: the tour recently, when anything sort of gets refreshed at, Paris Online's service, yeah.

871 01:10:51.200 --> 01:10:51.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

872 01:10:52.980 --> 01:10:55.540 tristram cary: You don't know it's parachorman, it could be your… your…

873 01:10:56.300 --> 01:11:02.039 Stuart Bacon: No, I know the rest of my websites are sort of refreshing quite happily.

874 01:11:04.820 --> 01:11:10.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, gentlemen, ladies, we don't think we've got any lady left, have we? Have they all left.

875 01:11:10.940 --> 01:11:13.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Helen, you're still with us? Yes, you are.

876 01:11:14.170 --> 01:11:19.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, do we have any questions that we've left unanswered that people want to…

877 01:11:19.290 --> 01:11:23.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have a chat about, please? Or are we all set to go for the weekend?

878 01:11:24.490 --> 01:11:26.350 Jean-Pierre Durand: All set. Thank you.

879 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, great pleasure to see you all. Take care, and have a great weekend. Hope to see you next week.

880 01:11:31.890 --> 01:11:32.360 Helen Davey councillor Martlesham Heath: Thank you.

881 01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:33.320 Jean-Pierre Durand: Very much.

882 01:11:33.320 --> 01:11:36.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright, take care. Thank you for coming. Bye-bye.

883 01:11:36.710 --> 01:11:37.490 Helen Davey councillor Martlesham Heath: Bye.