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# 250404 04Apr25 session 25-14

Videos as attachments (use links instead), main menu bar, Allotments, Using multiple layers as visual tools, National Stats collection,  Water Networks, Flooding, Tithe Maps, Council Data, Styling

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Banter session 25-14 video
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### Video Timeline:

00:00 - 07:20 Videos as attachments (use links instead)\
07:20 - 09:45 Shrink the main menu bar? - No\
09:45 -19:40 Allotments\
19:40 - 32:00 Using multiple layers as visual tools - per Stoke Mandeville, home of many developments around HS2\
32:00 - 34:26 Banter\
34:26 - 54:50 National Stats collection - EV chargers in Property Points (private chargers only), Precepts-Band D, Water Networks - Nodes and Watercourses, Flooding, Tithe Maps, buried ditches\
54:50 - 56:50 Council Data in new Knowledgebase (resolved)\
56:50 - 64:27 (end) Amend the order of records in Styling (now resolved)

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### Presentation:

This presentation covers much of the ground that Angie demonstrated in the "Using multiple layers as visual tools" section of the video above.  Basically, it covers how to use Parish Online to create the visual aids necessary to explain to interested parties what is going on where, and how it all ties together when viewed in entirety - ie lots of individual layers tying together to give the big picture.  A huge thank you to Angie Bamford for this.

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&#x20;And just to give you some idea of the scale of all this work:

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### Chat:

01:18:33 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Thanks, great session but have to go.\
01:19:46 Kirsten Newble - Cambridge: Thank you very much. I'll be sending this to others

Late news:   Richard Wand has found a way to amend the order of records in Styling: see his file below

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How to alter the order of objects in Styling
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More late news: Geoxphere has responded to a ticket asking about the "EV Chargers" layer in the National Maps - Net Zero" collection.  This is intended for private EV chargers only, and therefore expects them to be attached to Property Points (ie home addresses).  Not for public chargers on streets or in parking lots.  Here is a guide to how to enter data therein:  [ EV Chargers](https://support.parish-online.co.uk/portal/en/kb/articles/plotting-renewable-energy-items-on-the-map-using-the-parish-online-national-maps)

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, don't hold back here, and off you go

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Kieran Watson: Well, it's just the kind of being able to link the

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Kieran Watson: the needs in the community and being able to connect with residents

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup!

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Kieran Watson: So so, for instance, I'm quite keen to to do kind of films.

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Kieran Watson: photos, and to kind of news article about

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Kieran Watson: that kind of specific area of interest and

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Kieran Watson: kind of. We went through it a little bit last night, but kind of felt that.

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Kieran Watson: There's no direct place where you can drop that kind of video, or

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Kieran Watson: I just wondered whether that's your experience.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Tell you the truth, I've never even tried adding a video. Anyone done that

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chris edwards: No.

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David Newman: Let's see.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Well, maybe it's worth

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bring it a a go to see if we can do that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: let me just say good afternoon to people joining

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: so hello to Adrian, in whichever part of the world Adrian's in

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Adrienne Begent: Kent, Fabishop in Kent.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I no point in asking where Angie is. We all know where Angie is

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Adrienne Begent: I don't

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, Angie, is our permanent resident on Hs. 2 in

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Adrienne Begent: All right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Aylesbury sort of area, and is able to get to see us every time we have a holiday.

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Angie Bamford: The holidays.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Afternoon. Malcolm

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Malcolm Daniels: Afternoon.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nice to see you

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Malcolm Daniels: I might have to leave at any time

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: we've got semi apologies from Andrew, who hopes to be here. But he's racing back from hospital. So we're not quite sure

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: when he'll make it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adrian, I know that Kieran has got some specific questions. Can I just check whether you've got anything you would like to be asking, particularly

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Adrienne Begent: Not particularly no.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And how familiar are you with parish online

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Adrienne Begent: Yeah, we use it quite a lot of plans. We used it for sites, and that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

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Adrienne Begent: We have just taken over allotment, so I haven't started. But I'd be quite interested to know how you, if that's how that works.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup, yeah, we can do that.

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Adrienne Begent: Yeah, I mean, I use it a lot just for finding out pedestril parcel numbers. That's what we use it a lot for

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, he's very useful for that.

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Adrienne Begent: Yeah. And we have started listing out assets on it.

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Adrienne Begent: Oh.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Angie, have you ever tried attaching a video to a parish online record?

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Angie Bamford: Not a video, no pictures. Still pictures.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Are you in a position where you'd like to try it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm not part of it anymore.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You not even have access any longer.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, I've got access still.

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Angie Bamford: but we're still waiting for the neighborhood plan to be approved

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, well, let me just boringly share my screen. Briefly, we're gonna try Karen's request about oops. Not quite sure why we're there.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, I've still got access to every the normal layers and everything

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay here we go.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So let me just choose any old layer. I got it

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hello, Luke, let's go for there

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: really want to do that one

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: right? Let's just have a new one.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I just added it any old point, Karen.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and this is all just for trial now, because I've not ever tried this before. So I'm going to go in and add an attachment

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and find some sort of movie from somewhere.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: What we got.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, there's even one there, actually, now, I think about it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nope doesn't like it, does it?

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Kieran Watson: No.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Would you be able? Would I be able to set up a link instead?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, absolutely. Let me just try this out of interest.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just try.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Didn't like that, did it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, it doesn't look like we could like a video directly. But there's no problem at all in putting a link to wherever you've got the video stored. Whether it's a Youtube is a good place.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I put Youtube links into parish online all the time.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that was one certain answer for you.

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Kieran Watson: And just following up that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's now makes it a lot more clearer

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Kieran Watson: do we need to as a parish council?

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Kieran Watson: Have our own Youtube, so that it can't be any or

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Kieran Watson: the only ones that go on there are authorized by the Parish Council

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you can certainly set it up. So that in your Youtube channel you have you videos that are not open to the public. So you can. Only people with the link can open them.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And and that means that if they go into your record in parish online, and they go onto the link, they'll be allowed to see it, but nobody else will. So that's I think, that solves your problem.

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Kieran Watson: We do have a very Finnicle clerk who's very particular about being able to manage

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Kieran Watson: the flow of information. I don't know how David

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David Newman: We, we've actually got Google account. So we can set up our own Youtube channel

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Kieran Watson: So that's that's quite clear. Then

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so that would certainly resolve your problem of adding videos.

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Kieran Watson: There was one other question that arose last night, and if anyone else wants to go, I don't know if you want to.

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Kieran Watson: Folks on any other in the in in your group. But my question.

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Kieran Watson: Can we make that toolbar smaller so that it isn't so overwhelming, so

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Kieran Watson: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And not that I'm aware of

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Kieran Watson: It's just that. I think people look at it, and as we start up

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Kieran Watson: David loves it he can't stop stop putting his finger on the mouse, but other people see it as quite a

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Kieran Watson: kind of. I just wonder whether it'd be simplified

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are these people that you want to actually add and edit stuff? Or just look at stuff

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Kieran Watson: To add an edit

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? So I think no, is the answer to your question. The

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Kieran Watson: Gosh!

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Kieran Watson: That'll be

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Control over the system

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Kieran Watson: The alternative is that we instruct, which are the main ones to focus on.

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Kieran Watson: Say that it gives people a bit of direction so they can home in on that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, truth to tell, the vast majority of things that people want to do in parish online are done through a mini menu on the layers, so you don't need to touch the upper line at all for much of the stuff.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I mean, there are tools up there that you can use when you're looking to make specific measurements or or things like that. But otherwise I think most of what you want to do is in the mini menus that come up when you right click on a layer

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that might be a good teaching point for you to suggest that they concentrate on those rather than

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: the stuff at the top

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Kieran Watson: Okay. Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's move on to Adrian. And is it cemeteries you said you were in? Hi, Bob, I just come, and Stuart

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Bob Grainger: Hi! Graham! Everybody

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Adrienne Begent: And is, we've just taken over allotment. So I've sort of thinking about whether to use the allotment layer for them.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup. So let's just show you that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't know why I moved off where I was. I was doing quite well with that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: here we go. So in your allotments, layer

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Adrienne Begent: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which is down here.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You have 2 options. There's the boundaries. Which do you want

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Adrienne Begent: Probably going to come up with answers. Anyway, you've probably got allotment showing.

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Adrienne Begent: Yeah. But what's missing is the information on the individual plots?

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Adrienne Begent: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So there's a big difference between these 2. So boundaries are what's called a collaborative layer, so that everybody else in the country can see the allotment boundaries, and they can see the answers to the questions that get asked

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: here. So who owns the land? What sort of land is it whether you have

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: fences, waters, vehicle, access, that sort of thing type. Those are all sort of generalized questions that there's nothing personal about them, and everybody can see those

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Adrienne Begent: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But when you go into individual plots.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: then that is, counts as a parish lair, and only people in your parish can see it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if I I'm better off, actually going to a different site, aren't I for this? Just because I happen to know

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: bear with me a second.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I just happen to know we have allotments here.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So here are allotments in this particular village, and they're not allocated in terms of pots. They're just used as fields for grazing and generating hay, that sort of thing.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Incidentally out of interest. This one is just being allocated to the environmental group to go ahead and turn it into a an area of anything to help biodiversity. So they're going to put a pond in there. They're going to plant trees. They're going to plant seeds. They're going to put walkways, everything to keep people interested. But anyway, let's suppose you wanted to put

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: boundaries on here. I say, I'm sorry I'm better off going a bit further afield to here

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and assuming in a bit. So here's the allotment gardens. That you're seeing as the boundary layers

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you turn on the aerial photography.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you get a much better idea of what the individual plots are.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if I were to just tone down the map information for a bit.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you go to pure photographs. And now you can zoom in

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you see all the individual plots. So when you want to start mapping them, it's a piece of cake to come down here

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: to your plots and add a feature.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you can now just draw around any one of these allotments to get them

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: there. And it's it's it's very quick to do it from the photograph

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Adrienne Begent: Okay, yeah, no, that. So, owls, we've just been given the land, and we've just laid them out ourselves. So they're not going to be in photographs, are they

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, but are they in nice straight lines, and so forth?

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Adrienne Begent: Yeah, they are actually. So it's just a case of drawing them on, is it

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, it is. But what you can do just again. To make life simple for yourself

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: is, you can say, let's turn off the or turn on a line layer. So if you happen to have a line layer or you can create one.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, a line.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you can say, let's just suppose your lines run east, west, and north, south. What you can do is just add a line and say, there's

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: align.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right away we go. We've lost it

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: so I can say, I'm gonna start on our here and do that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then let's just say the other line.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you save save that one, give it a name.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then do another line down the next path in the same way, so we can say this is Joe.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and Joe runs from here to here.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's all right. Let's just say that, and

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Adrienne Begent: Actually

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it becomes an easy to do plots through there

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Adrienne Begent: Bye, bye.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it? Are you familiar with the rectangular option

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Adrienne Begent: No.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. So let me just mention that to you. In passing we come down to allotment plots.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you want to add a feature

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: like that. Then up here you've got a rectangle.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you can say, how big do you want it? So if you know what plots you're going to get you can put in the size. I mean, this happens to be a football field, but we can come off something to down to.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Presumably it's going to be a bit larger than a symmetry plot

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Adrienne Begent: Hope, so

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But but you can just say, let's go for a marquee. That's 6 meters by 6 meters. That might be a standard sort of it, or you can change whatever you like

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Adrienne Begent: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, when the time comes to add it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you just draw it on. Sorry. Let's go see, let's give it a name.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've lost it. There we go. Sorry. So you get the square that you've asked for, and then you can just move it around to where it fits in between your legs, and you can say it needs to be a bit more diagonal. So we'll go that way.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's 1.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's good

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Adrienne Begent: Okay. Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go on and do another one.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: so you can get all your plots in quite quickly and have the system do it for, particularly if you've got nicely laid out in a uniform way, you just find the right size for your rectangle, for height and width, and off you go. It'll do them all in for you between the lines

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Adrienne Begent: Excellent, and then I can upload con mooring not mooring allotment agreements to those as well

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yes, you can add those as an attachment to each one

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Adrienne Begent: Excellent. Okay, that makes sense. Now.

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Bob Grainger: Do you have a drawing of the site? Is is the boundaries on the site at the moment

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Bob Grainger: derived from drawings that were made

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Adrienne Begent: We've been given a whole lot of land, and we've set it out ourselves.

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Bob Grainger: Okay? No? I asked, because because I've done something similar for us. We had a large area of allotments, has been completely redeveloped, worked over.

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Bob Grainger: cultivated, and then relayed out in different different plots, quarter half, and full plots in

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Bob Grainger: a completely new layout. But it was derived from an architect's drawing of the developer's drawing.

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Bob Grainger: and the way I did it, rather than following Graham. Graham's way works very well, but I took the drawing that we got to say, this is what the plot layout is.

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Bob Grainger: I then

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Bob Grainger: scanned it and printed it onto a PIN piece of transparent acetate, and then put it on the screen and and then enlarged the parish online layout to fit the exact size that we've got.

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Bob Grainger: and then and then drew in parish online to match the drawing

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Must be a huge time saver, Bob. I should think

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Bob Grainger: It was. It was a fantastic time saver, because

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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Bob Grainger: And not only that, it gave me all the buildings, the water stopcocks, the roads, and everything, so I just overdrew in different colors, etc.

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Bob Grainger: and when you get when you get something like a hundred plots, it's much, much easier just to trace them like that, using the acetate as a guide

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you happen to have an example, Bob, that you can show us

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Bob Grainger: I don't available

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: What it looks like. At the moment that was

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Adrienne Begent: We've got one lot of allotments that last time I went looked weren't actually on the allotment layer

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, it's highly possible. The information on the allotments comes originally from the National Allotment Society God.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: They openly admit that a lot of their information will be out of date. They will have some allotments listed there that don't exist any longer. They've been built over, and they'll have some that have been created that they don't recognize at all. So the fact that they're not on your parish online is just purely a fact of history.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, okay, then, all right. Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. Oh, the

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Stuart Council: You can add them in at any point in the future.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm sorry, Stuart. I overspoke you. There. What were you saying?

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Stuart Council: I was saying you you can add those missing allotments into the allotment plots layer when you if you're ready to.

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Stuart Council: there's no restriction on that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No? Exactly. Well, you can put them into the the Boundaries layer first, st so that they show up to everybody, and then

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Adrienne Begent: Alright. Okay. That makes sense.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the boss you. You really need to have the boundaries 1st before you start adding plots to them

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: just to add limits to where you're going. Really.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: do we have any other specific questions that people would like answered

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: so

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Bob Grainger: What? What is the meaning of the universe?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It was 42. Come on, Angie.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I sent you an email this morning, which I haven't seen, whether you even noticed or replied to.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, we're at, but it it

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Angie Bamford: Want to make my maps public, or something

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did. Yes, because

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Angie Bamford: Sure what you wanted really.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: if you can go, take over the screen now and show us a typical Aylesbury famous for its lines, its gorgeousness.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm not building you up for anything. Angie.

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Angie Bamford: You wanna see my Max

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you throw in some of those layers of yours to show people what the developments are around you and the roads that are being built, and that sort of thing

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Angie Bamford: He's a state mandible in Buckinghamshire. This is where it currently is. So all the

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Angie Bamford: We've got

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Angie Bamford: the original neighbourhoods, which is the village, Stoke Grange, Stokelys, and Hawkslade, which basically are extensions of Aylesbury

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Angie Bamford: and the additional ones that are being built at the moment.

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Angie Bamford: This is a developments going on at the moment, and then

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Angie Bamford: What we got is the sale of Alesbury local plan coming in, and they want to build more houses.

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Angie Bamford: so they want agt. This is as we garden town development area, all of that

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Angie Bamford: to be houses, and they want hgt, 2,

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Angie Bamford: all of that to be houses.

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Angie Bamford: Then we also got down

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You got some bypasses and roads going in

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Angie Bamford: Oh, yeah, yeah. But there's an actual manor. Homes want to go down there

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Angie Bamford: so that yeah, we've got all sorts of things coming up. So we've got green buffer coming in. So our neighborhood plan wants a green buffer in between the existing village housing and the new housing.

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Angie Bamford: We always a garden way, was proposed to go from

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Angie Bamford: east to west, west to east, so people can walk through the parish.

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Angie Bamford: Oh, here comes Hs. 2 is going to go through as well straight through the parish.

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Angie Bamford: there is also a southeast Link Road coming through.

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Angie Bamford: and the bypass to come through that as well. Going up, going down.

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Angie Bamford: I've done the bypass, haven't they?

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Angie Bamford: but we've got the care community retirement one as well. That's down the bottom retirement. Place. What else we got?

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Angie Bamford: but most importantly, if I could take it, take that all off. But 1st one we did was the landowners map.

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Angie Bamford: So we map every single piece of land

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Angie Bamford: through the parish, so we can find out

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Angie Bamford: who belong who who owns it.

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Angie Bamford: And we've done the land registry as well with with all the different bits and pieces in there

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So before you take anything off, Angie

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Angie Bamford: Yup!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Can we create a public map of all of this?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And can you select it so the layers don't show up to start with, but people can turn them on when they want to

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Angie Bamford: You want a built up, built up, built up.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. Yes.

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Angie Bamford: The Tree preservation Orders as well

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, even better. Yep, put them all in there

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Angie Bamford: But we got charging points I've put in.

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Angie Bamford: Oh, entry signs as well. If you come into the bench

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Angie Bamford: Makes me laugh is the entry point to Stoke. Mandible is here when it should be down here. But that's that's the way it is

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Angie Bamford: don't see the railway crossings, railway lines.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, we got all sorts of things going on 8

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So basically, what we started with was an area that was virtually empty

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Angie Bamford: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now we've got the development that shows you quadrupled in your population in no time at all.

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Angie Bamford: Listed buildings, as well

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Man with a castle in his village

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Angie Bamford: Holistic buildings or green spaces we can have.

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Angie Bamford: There's like green spaces, not a lot of green spaces. But there you go, the green spaces as well

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So. So now you've demonstrated how you can use the system.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: What I'd like to do for everybody on the call is if we can just go ahead and create a public map of this, and then I can use that as future reference for anybody that is interested in what on earth can you do with parish online and public mapping

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Angie Bamford: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you need anyone to walk you through doing a public map? Are you quite happy to generate it as we go

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Angie Bamford: I suppose I'd better get permission first.st

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right? Yes, okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But now you see the gist of what I'd love to be able to to do. Angie, you can produce that as a URL, which I can then just refer to as necessary. It would be fantastic.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and we can turn the layers on and off as we require

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Angie Bamford: Business centers. Let's put them on as well. Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That way. You'll get permission, won't you?

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, yeah, okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That'd be tremendous. Thank you.

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Angie Bamford: Alright! Should I stop sharing

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. So there's just the aficionado of use of parish online for development.

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, it's it's very, very good, because

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Angie Bamford: it's a it's a gradual thing, you see, for for us, for the Neighborhood plan. We couldn't go to anyone like inspectors, or whatever to say. We don't want that. Your planning

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Angie Bamford: 2,000 houses there, and they'll say, Why not? And we say, well, the land is owned by such and such, and they graze cattle on it. And so you. You build up an idea of

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Angie Bamford: your argument, if you like before you oppose something.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

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Angie Bamford: We just get all the information. That was the whole idea of it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank you very much for that

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Angie Bamford: They will, too.

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Kieran Watson: Can I ask a quick question? Please.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go for it, Karen

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Kieran Watson: And the process of doing this is, it seems that there's a lot of work that's gone into it. I just wonder how long that has taken

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Angie Bamford: Okay he is.

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Angie Bamford: Yes, but there's only me. There was only me doing it to be fair, and that was I was. That wasn't a full time job. It was like 20 HA week, or something doing that

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Kieran Watson: It's an amazing formula. If you could bottle it and sell it, I'm sure you'd make a fortune

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Angie Bamford: It's just we we needed to get. I mean, I did a presentation for for Grant owner is that a year ago, Graham, as the whole concept of from start to finish, of how we do things and how we've done things.

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Angie Bamford: To get where we are.

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Angie Bamford: because that dreaded. Hs 2 is coming straight through the parish and taking a lot of land. They're doing a lot. Well. They have done the land grab not just the the line itself, the the land either side of the line.

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Angie Bamford: stating ripping up everything. And

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Angie Bamford: yeah, it wasn't good. We had to find out the information

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Angie Bamford: from from the landowners themselves, and we had lots and lots of meetings with them to say, you know, this is the impact it's going to have with the development of all the new houses, and obviously the Hs. 2 and the Link roads and the bypasses all going through. So we had lots of consultations with the landowners and with businesses and with everyone that is involved. That's

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Angie Bamford: you know, even in like the pubs. Anything that's that's in the village that

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Angie Bamford: we'd had meetings with, and

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Angie Bamford: you know, to try and get their point of view as well as our point of view. So we wanted to put what's best for the neighborhood, for the community in our neighborhood plan.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just say good afternoon to Andrew. Congratulations for making it

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and going back to Kieran. I think the answer really to your question is, it doesn't take more than a minute or so to add a new feature.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: but when you add them all over a period of time, as the developments come through and so forth, then it becomes overall. It's been a lot of work. But adding, any individual piece is is actually very quick.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: particularly if you're doing this on a regular basis, there is a problem with parish online that if you only use it once a month, then your speed of developing things has slowed down quite a lot

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Angie Bamford: It gives to show, you know, for presentations that we were doing to

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Angie Bamford: counselors or to business owners. It was a good tool to use a visual tool to, to map things out and show people where things are, what's going to be affected, who it's going to affect, how long it's going to take. You know, all those sort of things.

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Angie Bamford: There's a tree there, there's a.

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Angie Bamford: you know, all sorts of listed building there, and

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Angie Bamford: those are things that needs to be taken into account. Really, when you all this development goes on.

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Angie Bamford: and the impact on the traffic with the existing roads

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Kieran Watson: It for me. It's I

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Kieran Watson: I think we've got a 2 month sort of timetable, and

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Kieran Watson: it's definitely enlightened me in regards to the amount of work needs to be done, even though it's

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Kieran Watson: a simple process to map it. I think it's the the behind the scenes stuff that you've been doing

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Angie Bamford: Yeah, I mean each the landowners one particularly. We did that first.st

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Angie Bamford: So we could then think, have meetings with them to say what impact it's gonna have?

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Angie Bamford: So

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Angie Bamford: just individually doing that, drawing the little you know, the the rectangles, the squares, or whatever, and mapping it 1st and then getting the land registry details on as well. So we've got them. So we had an account with land registry as well, so we could, you know, download the the map from land registry and overdo it on parish online. And then you've got the

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Angie Bamford: Oh, would you like the title deeds and everything. So who who owns it? And

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Angie Bamford: so all those were added on each land parcel with an attachment of the land, registry deed and the land registry maps

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Angie Bamford: onto every single piece of land was mapped even a curb, you know. A little piece on where a bus stop is. Everything was mapped and we? We made sure we knew every single piece of land who owned who owned that piece of land

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Angie Bamford: just by bus stuff, or whatever, whether it be the Parish Council. It would be the Bucks County Council.

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Angie Bamford: because everybody everybody owns a piece of land somewhere

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Kieran Watson: Because we're a large Council estate. We've got a lot of different housing associations within

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Kieran Watson: the whole kind of development. And then we've got further developments now.

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Kieran Watson: So that's kind of where a point worth taking and fortunate, and luckily enough, with guards to assets. We've just we've got on our team. I,

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Kieran Watson: an architect who's who's involved with the community development and regeneration.

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Kieran Watson: So we've kind of fortunate, really

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Angie Bamford: Hmm.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Course, all that behind the scenes work is going to have to take place anyway. It's not a function of parish online.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you know. You, you need to do. Who are the landowners, and who are we going to be affected by this development?

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Angie Bamford: Boom.

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Kieran Watson: And do you record these sessions at all?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is being recorded now. Yes, and they're all available on the wiki to look up. If you want to go back to them later.

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Kieran Watson: I just wondered whether we've got a meeting in 2 weeks, and we're trying to to really sell the mapping.

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Kieran Watson: And I wonder whether I'm totally kind of

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Kieran Watson: clear now, and and impressed with it

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Kieran Watson: the way that map was shown.

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Kieran Watson: and I think that would be a great advert for our committee to kind of look at and say, Wow, you know

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Kieran Watson: and I don't know how David feels about that.

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David Newman: Well, we can.

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David Newman: The videos on the wiki, we can display. Our only problem is getting a big enough screen in the place we meet

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Kieran Watson: Hmm.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I was going to say, Karen, I'm very happy to donate some time. If it helps you to do a presentation or to just highlight the points you've made, in fact.

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Stuart Council: Oh!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Only Angie would get her public. Mac created. It would be a Ptk. Wouldn't it?

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Angie Bamford: Have you still got, Graham? Have you still got that presentation I gave you? You could use that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, yeah, there's all sorts of things we can do. So, Karen, if it helps, I'd be happy to help out

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Kieran Watson: If you would like to forward that to David.

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Kieran Watson: and then David and I will meet up to to view it

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Kieran Watson: before our next meeting, and then that gives us

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Kieran Watson: so much information and an opportunity to relate it, we might

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Kieran Watson: try and cut it down to bite size portions.

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Kieran Watson: And send that out with the working group to

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Kieran Watson: to give them a bit of a encouragement. Really.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm happy to do that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So has our discussion generated questions than anybody else.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: or anyone else want to make some points. Mr. Edwards was kind enough to

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: involve us in lots and lots of questions to which some answers you had to go back to geosphere, for did you get answers from them?

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chris edwards: No, I haven't heard from them, I'm afraid so. They've been a bit slow, but I will come back to you once. I've got the answers from them

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

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chris edwards: Would would you like me to just mention a couple of things

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Kieran Watson: On!

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chris edwards: A query or 2 I had

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Chris, the floor is yours.

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chris edwards: Okay, I shall share my screen.

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chris edwards: Oh, what's that?

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Stuart Council: My phone. I think

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chris edwards: Alright! Here we go. So now this is my parish.

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chris edwards: What I was looking at is now that we're in the New Financial year.

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chris edwards: I troll down these layers to find national maps.

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chris edwards: and I've got net 0. So if I home in on that.

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chris edwards: I was looking at ev charges when I clicked on that

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chris edwards: the charges that we've got in our vicinity are not shown.

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chris edwards: So it raises the question, are these ev charges residential charges, or are they public charges?

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chris edwards: And I don't have an answer for that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right.

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chris edwards: So that's a question I'll be asking. Parish online.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I can give you the answer to that one. Chris

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chris edwards: Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it is whatever you choose to put in. So if you scroll down a bit further, I can't remember. It's in this. If you go to property points.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you know, we'll go back up. You were on it. Property points turn that on all right. So there are what they call property points, and you can go into any one of those and just click on. It doesn't matter which one. But if you can find one that's near where your

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: charging points are at the moment that would help

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chris edwards: Yes, just give me a second

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

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chris edwards: You see Car Park

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so.

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chris edwards: There's a couple of charges, so if I click on that one, there

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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chris edwards: This brings up that particular property

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup, and then you can submit property statistics. So if you click on that up arrow

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: on the right. No, no, no, right there. Yep, and it asks you questions.

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chris edwards: Oh yes!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And one of the questions will be, Do you have an Ev charging point

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chris edwards: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So good.

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chris edwards: So you obviously submit that information there and then

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Feel feel free to go ahead and do it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you just click on, start

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chris edwards: Oh! Beg your pardon!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then

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chris edwards: Yeah, there's the question.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Say yes for the argument for the moment we'll go into the and then no, for the rest of it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just just go ahead and submit. Leave both of those blank

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Stuart Council: So you need to click.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you now go back into parish online.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you'll see that. And you probably need to refresh Chris.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you close down that column on the left.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, and just refresh

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and turn back on. Go back down to your Ev charges in the national stats

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: next one yeah. Net 0. There you go

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chris edwards: Oh, yes, there we go!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And okay. So the note I got from Chris Muse said, this is something that we're developing. So it's a work in progress

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chris edwards: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And one of the things I went straight back to him and said was, the chances are very strong with a public. Ev. Charger is not going to be anywhere near a building by definition, it's going to be in a car park. And by definition car parks don't have buildings in them. So again, that's another question he's yet to answer. But

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: the the point is that that's where you get the information added to that particular layer. So you put it in yourself so it can be both private and public. But I also said that I felt that the 1st thing people would want to know, is some more information, like, what is the charging rate

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: in terms of speed, you know. Is this a fast charger or a slow charger? And the second point would be, what is the charging rate in terms of pounds per hour, you know, or pounds for kilowatt? What do you charge for electricity there and

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: there would probably be be useful to have a date of installation, something like that. So you can see how, out of how up to date this piece of kit is.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I just felt that this is a a trial layer that they're testing out at the moment. And I sort of

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: did a couple of tests and came to the conclusion it could be improved. So I've

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Bob Grainger: Yes, now

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chris edwards: Graham, how do I delete what I put in

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, I shouldn't think there's any chance at all of you deleting that, Chris.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go back into it. If you

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: go go into the edit. Yeah?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And

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chris edwards: No delete button

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I think you need to go back down to the questions again. So if you go into the

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: properties, property points next one down. Yeah, click on that one. Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and go into property points, I think.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Does he come up with the question? Yes. So go to your questions.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, Yup, and go into it and say, No, okay. Now you're done so. No, to everything else.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hello and blank, and just submit it, and it should delete it for you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do a refresh, do a refresh

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chris edwards: Yay!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, no, you haven't turned the layer on whoops

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chris edwards: What next?

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Stuart Council: Well, thank you.

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Stuart Council: Rid of it. Let's preview it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You wrote me completely.

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chris edwards: Well, it's it's gone!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's gone. That's right, which is the whole point.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So yes, that's so. That's that's how they you get answers into that layer. Which is your original question.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you said you had at least 2, Chris. So now's the time

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chris edwards: Right. So now national maps, parish stats.

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chris edwards: I was looking at preset band d

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yeah, obviously question that. Only they can answer, not I.

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chris edwards: Yeah, I'm going to click on that and show you what comes up.

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chris edwards: So this, this is my parish.

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chris edwards: and if I click on view legend

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chris edwards: that will show you that our parish preset for Bandis actually 83 pounds per annum, whereas our neighbors

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chris edwards: across the border. They're up into the 200 pounds plus 200 plus

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chris edwards: and we're getting people who live in each of the parishes.

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chris edwards: one complaining that their precepts are gigantic.

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chris edwards: whereas the precepts in our parish are very modest.

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chris edwards: so that a lot of people have sort of complaining about why

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chris edwards: their property, which is a stone's throw from our parish. They're so much more expensive.

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chris edwards: anyway, that's our problem to sort out. But I found this very, very interesting to see.

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chris edwards: I mean, obviously, you've got town councils with the darker patches.

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chris edwards: and then the light of the patches. You've got the small parish councils with very low precepts.

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chris edwards: but anyway, I just thought I'd show that we we find it very, very interesting. And my last question about this is, I'm wondering when parish online are going to publish the

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chris edwards: this year's precepts, because this is out. This is last year

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, they can only do that when the national authority has published the details

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chris edwards: Oh, right!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know you've got to get the data from the very least. Your District Council, and probably your County Council.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's see

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Stuart Council: Even the State.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Given the state of Somerset at the moment, it will be sometime in next century

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Stuart Council: It was all published last month

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chris edwards: Go to Ukraine

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? So it's a. It's a very valid question for Chris to ask you. Sphere, then, is when

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chris edwards: I will!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're gonna place right

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chris edwards: That's fine!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You? Are you all braced for a mad rush of people out of Castle Carey into Ansford?

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chris edwards: Well, it's an expensive business moving house, isn't it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, well, yes.

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chris edwards: Anyway, we'll we'll have lots of conversations in the coming months about that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

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chris edwards: The last the last item. I need to get some information about watercourses, but just for the sake of of this afternoon's agenda, so to speak. Let me go to OS overlays. Let me turn

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chris edwards: that off.

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chris edwards: Oh, if you see OS overlays, here we are.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you got

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chris edwards: I've been looking at water network nodes and water courses, so if I zoom in again to

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chris edwards: parish, there we are.

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chris edwards: I turn on watercourses.

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chris edwards: you'll you'll see there is various points in our parish if I click on one at random.

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chris edwards: It gives me very little information. It gives me an id.

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chris edwards: but it doesn't explain much about this.

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chris edwards: So I'll be asking questions of our local water utility company called Wessex Water about where I can glean information.

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chris edwards: And what's prompted this is, we've got a public recreational field in the middle of our parish, and

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chris edwards: although it doesn't show it where I've got my cursor.

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chris edwards: There's a manhole cover, and I'm thinking, what does that manhole cover service

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's too

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chris edwards: Is. Yes, the the land from the east goes downhill to the west.

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chris edwards: and we're wondering whether or not this is a drainage manhole inspection cover.

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chris edwards: but we want to know where it starts and where it finishes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You should.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Too large nodes as well as waterworks. Does that help?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now the nearest nerve is okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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chris edwards: But that again, that doesn't really give me any information whatsoever

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chris edwards: gives me an id number. So

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chris edwards: there's a node there, there's a node there?

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chris edwards: What purpose do they serve?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I think these are all. Once you've got the identifier, then you've got something solid to go to Wessex Water with

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chris edwards: Yes, yes.

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chris edwards: so maybe by the time we have our next meeting in a week's time I might have an answer for you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Brand.

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chris edwards: Oh, anyway, thank you very much.

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chris edwards: Everyone.

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chris edwards: What's that

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Stuart Council: So going back to your earlier point, if you check the chat.

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Stuart Council: there's links there to the bandy database from gov.uk, which you might wanna pass on comments to

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Stuart Council: our salon

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chris edwards: You'll have to say that again. Your your like

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chris edwards: like you're breaking up, I'm afraid. So. Go back to no

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Stuart Council: Chat.

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chris edwards: Bandy.

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chris edwards: Was that what you were talking about

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so click on the your area, Chris, and look at the record

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chris edwards: So yeah, it's 83 pounds for a bandy property.

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chris edwards: Those are the info. Those are the bits of information for the the previous financial year.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, what was it you were saying that Chris could click on

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Angie Bamford: That she puts me in the chat

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chris edwards: Oh!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have you been again? I couldn't.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: He's put. He's put a note in the chat

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chris edwards: Oh, I see.

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chris edwards: Thank you all right, I'll I'll

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chris edwards: I'll obviously go on to the chat and have a look at that. But thank you very much, Stuart, for that.

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chris edwards: Let me just turn that off

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Stuart Council: And I'll stop sharing.

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Stuart Council: Sorry I had to put a headphone on to improve the microphone for you.

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chris edwards: Thank you very much indeed, Stuart.

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chris edwards: No. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I shouldn't have done that.

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Andrew Clegg: You know.

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Andrew Clegg: Chris, I may be able to give a bit of an answer to both your questions, because we have both in Martok

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chris edwards: Oh, right!

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Andrew Clegg: The 1st one is that you'll probably find that Castle Carey does quite a lot more things that cost money than you do. For example. Martok has a youth group and a group that serves the elderly and and frail in the village

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Andrew Clegg: which we set up some time ago, and we have to find and finance that out of now out of the council tax when it was set up. We didn't, but we do now, and so we've now we've now for a village got the highest precept in the country, and it is causing a big problem.

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Andrew Clegg: You may find that that's what happens in Castle Carey. You'll see the same in Langport and hewish in the same relationship. Langport is the town equivalent to Castle Kerry, and Hewish is the village, and their precept is much less.

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Andrew Clegg: And the second thing is about these underground pipes. I think that's what they are. Actually, as our village has been built a lot of the old ditches were culverted. Everybody's forgotten where they are, and you do see them on maps like this, so you'll probably find, I notice on one of your culverts there. There was a spring marked at the end of it

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Andrew Clegg: which suggests that it's it's the the old ditch system which has now been put underground.

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Andrew Clegg: and you'll start suffering from it soon, because the pipe diameters are not wide enough

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Bob Grainger: No, no.

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Andrew Clegg: Take to take modern these days. Rainsfall

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chris edwards: Yeah, because we've got lots of new building programs. And you know.

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Andrew Clegg: We've had flooding issues for the last 2 or 3 years.

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah, we've had to have several of ours dug up by Wessex water and replaced with wider diameter pipes, because they just flooded flooded houses in the village when they couldn't take the thing. Yeah.

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chris edwards: Yeah, thank you for that. Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: To Chris just out of interest. If we go back to one of Malcolm's favourite points, if you turn on your tithe maps, does it show you the ditches that used to be there, but are not there now, or have gone

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chris edwards: Yes, it does.

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

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chris edwards: You

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you show, go to your field where the man the manhole cover is

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chris edwards: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: In terms of yeah, okay.

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chris edwards: Let me!

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Malcolm Daniels: Sorry. I've

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chris edwards: There it is. So here, here is here is the field

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chris edwards: where my cursor is is the manhole

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you now go and turn on your tide maps, which are somewhere up top, are they some? Said, Hr, I think. Yeah. Heritage heritage

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Heritage, one up 1st green one. There you go

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Andrew Clegg: I'm sure Cs has something to do with underground water and deaf. I can't remember what, but I think it is

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you got a whole ton of pipes or ditches there, haven't you?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go! Well done.

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chris edwards: Gosh! Look at that!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But not actually in the area where you have your manhole cover.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hmm!

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chris edwards: The manhole is

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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chris edwards: I know.

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chris edwards: Yeah, sure.

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chris edwards: No.

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Andrew Clegg: But they will have altered slightly the course of it when they buried it. You see.

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chris edwards: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

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Andrew Clegg: They won't. They won't have buried it under a hedge. They'll have buried it next to the hedge

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

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chris edwards: Right.

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chris edwards: Yes, let's

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Malcolm Daniels: Just see exactly.

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chris edwards: What's up?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it's hence moved it. Interesting. Okay?

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chris edwards: Oh, look! This dotted line here now, I think that's the parish boundary

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

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chris edwards: I get to turn off the those

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chris edwards: right, anyway. So thanks once again, all your comments are very welcome.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And please pay your bill.

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chris edwards: It's due in about 10 days time

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. They don't miss the trick parish online every which way

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Malcolm Daniels: Sure.

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chris edwards: And both no longer employed

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

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Malcolm Daniels: Oh, yeah, thank you.

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Malcolm Daniels: You're welcome.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right? Can we do anything for anybody else

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David Newman: I put a question in the chat

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Malcolm Daniels: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, sorry, Stuart!

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David Newman: About ev charges? Can we import layers from Zapmap or plugshell

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So we cannot in parish online, I should reemphasize that we cannot in parish online. But geosphere can without any issues.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you would like to see the Ev charges in Paris online, which I'm sure a whole ton of people would. Then perhaps you could just open a ticket to <support@geosphere.com>. Oh, no, you can't use.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: They've updated the name. It's now <support@parisonline.co.uk>.

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David Newman: Just for reference.

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David Newman: Yeah, I've discovered they both got Apis. They both charge for them, although the Department of Transport has an agreement with that map, so I don't know if what lay detail they have

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I do think it's worthwhile opening a ticket to find out

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David Newman: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So would you like to do that?

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David Newman: You say it's <support@parisonline.co.uk>

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

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David Newman: All right.

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chris edwards: Or is that.com

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No uk

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chris edwards: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, you raised the interesting point during the week that every time someone asks me about getting data from their other councils into parish online. I point them at the council data entry and knowledge base. So they can follow the steps that parish online themselves have said, they want us to follow.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just for those of you who are interested in doing that, you'll discover that you cannot any longer, because that article has been removed.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I've asked what's coming in its place? And so far the answer is, no, no reply.

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Stuart Council: I can update on that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, go for it.

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Stuart Council: If you check the chat I've earlier today, I've been sent a link to the article

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Stuart Council: in a Revised Knowledge Base for Parish online

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right? So it is exactly the same article. It's just in a different place

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Stuart Council: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, okay, so what do they call this one? Now

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: requesting local council data? Okay. So you should be able to find it with council data

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Stuart Council: Yeah, yeah, no, it should should be able to do now. But I mean, I wasn't aware of this version of the knowledge base until

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, it's only just gone online, hasn't it? Because this certainly wasn't there when you posed the question to me 2 days. So this is the brand new

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: knowledge base. Okay? So there's another interesting thing for everybody.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And they put an item in on Irene's which is interesting. Yeah, all right, that's new, too.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, that's early in the next map. Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: good.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are we going to declare the weekend started early, then, if everyone has exhausted all their questions and items of interest.

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Stuart Council: Actually sorry. I've just thought of a query.

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Stuart Council: Something that came to me earlier on I've got.

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Stuart Council: I combination of data and whatever where I've filled in

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Stuart Council: various bits. Sorry I'm flicking and getting the wrong element. Yeah,

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Stuart Council: let me share. And you can see what I'm looking at that'll make life easier.

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Stuart Council: Sorry?

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Stuart Council: Yeah, hopefully, you can see from there

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then

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Stuart Council: Yeah.

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Stuart Council: So my post some bollards there.

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Stuart Council: whatever.

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Stuart Council: When I come into the styling you can see the order. There is not alphabetical, and lamppost

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Stuart Council: developer set sits at the bottom, which

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Stuart Council: he's a bit annoying, and I'd like to actually get it.

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Stuart Council: Sort of higher up the list which when I go into the layer

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Stuart Council: And I've checked and done all of this and the type.

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Stuart Council: It doesn't sit at the bottom.

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Stuart Council: It sits

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Number 2,

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Stuart Council: As number 2.

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Stuart Council: So how do I get one? How do I get the 2 to to tally up

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Stuart Council: so that what I see and what it says it's supposed to be doing are actually the same

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you're making this weird assumption that just because you've put the lead in one set of orders in your set, that's how it should appear in styling

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Stuart Council: That

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So all your being is logical and rational. I don't think

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Stuart Council: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, that's not good enough.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've got to throw in a random sort of variable in there somewhere.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But let's let's make the second one, the 5th one, or the 6th one, just just for a change

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Stuart Council: Just yeah, just forget it. Yeah.

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Angie Bamford: When I've done mine in alphabetical order before, in that, like you did in administration, you can move them around. You can click and drag them, put them wherever you want them.

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Stuart Council: Yeah, yeah, I guess I can move those around now. No issue

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Angie Bamford: So why doesn't that show

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Stuart Council: But it doesn't. We're moving it around doesn't filter through

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: To the styling page

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Stuart Council: Styling page, and how that looks, and I don't quite know how to

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Angie Bamford: Does it, do it as you create.

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Angie Bamford: list them as you create them in in like time order rather than

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Angie Bamford: did your did you create that

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Stuart Council: Gosh! Now you're asking a question.

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Angie Bamford: It might actually do it. List them as I've done

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Stuart Council: Logically, added, yeah.

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Angie Bamford: As the last one you've added will be the last one that shows

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Retired Clerk: There's a logic to that, Angie.

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Retired Clerk: Oh, Stuart, you shouldn't see! It's your fault. It's not theirs.

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chris edwards: Stuart. I don't. I haven't given this much thought. Go go back, go go back to the previous

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chris edwards: The previous one

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Stuart Council: So where? Where? I'm looking at it, hey?

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Stuart Council: In this one? Is that what you you remain in

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chris edwards: No. Yeah.

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Angie Bamford: So. Yes, it

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Stuart Council: Darling.

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chris edwards: Yeah, right?

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chris edwards: What what I was going to suggest is this, take take the top one called lamppost all night.

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chris edwards: If you were to put an capital A in front of lamppost all night, then the second one B. Lamppost part night.

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chris edwards: next one down C lamp post on telegraph pole.

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Stuart Council: Yep.

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chris edwards: Would that would that help you?

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Stuart Council: No, because the only way to order it is in the administration section. And this isn't following what's in administration

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Angie Bamford: Okay, cool. So

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Stuart Council: Understand what you're saying

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chris edwards: Yeah.

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Stuart Council: But as this I can't edit the expression

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But

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Stuart Council: And whatever which is what it's sorted on at the moment

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chris edwards: Hmm.

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Stuart Council: You can only do that through the

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Andrew Clegg: Stewart.

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Stuart Council: Administration, field

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Andrew Clegg: Stuart. I think I vaguely remember that I've had this problem before.

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Andrew Clegg: You. You won't be very pleased to learn that I've completely forgotten what the solution was, but I have a feeling that I eventually gave up

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Andrew Clegg: and restyled the whole thing, and I have a feeling that the reason for this is that the styling was not done all. At the same time I did one lot of styling, and then and they did another lot, and and somehow that confused the issue. I solved it by deleting the styling and redoing

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Angie Bamford: You know.

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Andrew Clegg: Does does that help Stuart

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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Stuart Council: It. It gives me a

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Stuart Council: a an option. It doesn't sort of provide me with a quick fix. But yeah, no, that that yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think a much better option would be to have Kieran to send in his request, and David to send in his request, and you to send in your request, so that 3 tickets arrive on Chris's desk this afternoon, and then we're well away

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Andrew Clegg: Interesting.

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Retired Clerk: Mo, mo, mo.

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Stuart Council: Ways to wind Chris up on a Friday afternoon. You mean

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it's it's just an idea. But thank you for letting us see that, Stuart, because it's another issue I hadn't appreciated before

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Angie Bamford: I've had it before, and

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

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Angie Bamford: Think it cause you can click and drag it, and you can put it in the order that you want in the administration bit. But yeah, I I got a thing I had to redo. It's the way you do it, but the way you create it is the order. It will show

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Andrew Clegg: Yes, I think you're right, Angie.

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Angie Bamford: So so, as as somebody earlier said, it's chronological

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: How how tedious! Much better to go back and ask them to change it! So it's alphabetical

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Angie Bamford: But that's

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can't believe it's very difficult for them. It's just a little coding change.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you all very much for your attention, Angie. It was lovely to see you and Adrian and Karen's gone, but, Adrian, thank you for showing up. I hope we've helped, and if you have any more questions, throw them at us

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Angie Bamford: Are you meeting over the Easter holidays, Easter?

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Angie Bamford: You've got Bank Holiday, haven't you? When's when's your next one? Graham

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, are you saying next Friday is a Bank Holiday. I think we do these every Friday, almost regardless

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Malcolm Daniels: It's good, isn't it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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Retired Clerk: Cool, so

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So it'll be next Friday. It's every week at 2 o'clock

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Angie Bamford: Let you go hopefully. See you next week as well

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

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Bob Grainger: See you on Jane

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Authorized and done. Angie

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Bob Grainger: Hello, Stuart, speaking good to see you back

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Say yep.

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Andrew Clegg: Bye.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank you very much. Take care, bye, bye.

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Bob Grainger: Bye, bye.
