John Roberts shows how to create a "Public Map" in Parish Online, and demonstrates how it helps the villagers in Nether Stowey understand their village layout; also tracking streams and culverts
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John Roberts shows how to create a "Public Map" in Parish Online, and demonstrates how it helps the villagers in Nether Stowey understand their village layout; also tracking streams as they go above and under ground in culverts; and using Public Map to demonstrate the level of detail needed in a new highways development
Video Timeline (min:sec):
00:00 - 03:34 mapping the village segments for public map
03:34 - 06:33 working out which house owns which distant garden
06:33 - 07:58 how ''public map" demonstrates small highway details
07:58 -11:00 mapping a stream over and under ground 11:00 - 17:00 riparian rights (banter) 17:00 - 22:30 (end) occasional slow speeds in PO (banter)
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246 00:20:24.840 --> 00:20:29.553 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just to the background for anybody else that I asked if people would
247 00:20:30.220 --> 00:20:43.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: give examples of how they're actually using parish online in their parishes, so that those people are not making proper use of it or not. Enough use of it could pick up on where they might go, and John very nicely volunteered
248 00:20:44.524 --> 00:20:49.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: to show us how he uses parish online in Nether Stowey.
249 00:20:51.090 --> 00:20:53.710 John Roberts: No, you asked me to do about public maps.
250 00:20:54.100 --> 00:20:55.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, yeah, same thing.
251 00:20:55.580 --> 00:21:03.200 John Roberts: Yeah, I like the word volunteer. It takes on a whole new context when you say it.
252 00:21:03.420 --> 00:21:04.750 Bob Grainger: But.
253 00:21:06.310 --> 00:21:09.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Question whether it's a subject or an object, isn't it?
254 00:21:10.550 --> 00:21:15.599 John Roberts: Well it, as everybody knows, I better share my screen. I suppose
255 00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:24.209 John Roberts: he should now be looking at my parish online page. Yeah.
256 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:34.760 John Roberts: Now, apart from Sue. Everybody's familiar with, you know, creating a public map, but
257 00:21:35.210 --> 00:21:37.589 John Roberts: it's the uses you can put to it.
258 00:21:41.300 --> 00:21:45.140 John Roberts: The favorite one of Graham's is my village areas.
259 00:21:47.300 --> 00:21:50.440 John Roberts: and what I'll do is go through creating that.
260 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:59.929 John Roberts: It's basically the 1st image you'll get, and Stuart's probably better at this than I am. But you you select which map you want, which is that one
261 00:22:02.830 --> 00:22:10.630 John Roberts: you then look at the layers that you want to include within that public map, and as you can see on this one. We've got quite a few.
262 00:22:11.020 --> 00:22:17.149 John Roberts: They will be on the left hand side, and if you click on them on the left hand side, they will move to the right hand side
263 00:22:17.600 --> 00:22:20.200 John Roberts: equally. If you decide you don't want one.
264 00:22:20.980 --> 00:22:23.380 John Roberts: you click it, and it'll go back on that side.
265 00:22:24.900 --> 00:22:28.520 John Roberts: Once you've achieved the layers you want next.
266 00:22:30.340 --> 00:22:39.100 John Roberts: Now you then get the all the layers that are supplied by parish online, not your parish layers.
267 00:22:40.470 --> 00:22:43.859 John Roberts: and I chose in this one to include conservation areas.
268 00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:54.029 John Roberts: Now, this is the tricky one you need to select, which which is your base for your map.
269 00:22:54.490 --> 00:22:55.870 John Roberts: You can zoom in
270 00:22:58.660 --> 00:23:06.840 John Roberts: and select the center. You have to be careful when you're zooming in, because when it comes onto the map you sometimes find you've zoomed in too far, and you've lost them.
271 00:23:12.090 --> 00:23:15.640 John Roberts: You want layer control so people can turn layers on and off.
272 00:23:16.360 --> 00:23:19.990 John Roberts: They can query the layers, and they can do a postcode search.
273 00:23:20.780 --> 00:23:23.800 John Roberts: I don't normally bother with Llpg.
274 00:23:25.570 --> 00:23:31.939 John Roberts: This is the layers we've got, and that's when you click on the public map. That's the layers that will come up in the beginning.
275 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:35.830 John Roberts: Say.
276 00:23:39.300 --> 00:23:43.320 John Roberts: I forgot one thing, I'm not gonna go back before you say give it a name.
277 00:23:43.820 --> 00:23:46.659 John Roberts: If you don't give it a name, it won't save anything.
278 00:23:50.560 --> 00:23:54.020 John Roberts: You will then get your public map with its name.
279 00:23:54.770 --> 00:23:57.839 John Roberts: and here you will see the earl, which you can copy.
280 00:23:58.090 --> 00:24:01.279 John Roberts: or you can embed the code into your website.
281 00:24:02.180 --> 00:24:04.630 John Roberts: so people can access it from the website.
282 00:24:09.210 --> 00:24:11.719 John Roberts: Now, this, I don't know if this is gonna work.
283 00:24:16.390 --> 00:24:18.289 John Roberts: What are you looking at now, please.
284 00:24:18.290 --> 00:24:19.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, you're a puppet man.
285 00:24:20.310 --> 00:24:24.649 John Roberts: Right? Okay, I wasn't sure because I got so many screens. I didn't know if it was gonna work.
286 00:24:25.310 --> 00:24:30.240 John Roberts: So people can put the URL into their browser they would come up.
287 00:24:30.630 --> 00:24:34.119 John Roberts: This is the public map that was created from all those layers.
288 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:37.990 John Roberts: They are all there.
289 00:24:39.760 --> 00:24:42.209 John Roberts: You can turn them on and off at will.
290 00:24:48.010 --> 00:24:53.899 John Roberts: And the best illustration of what we were trying to achieve here, because our village is such a convoluted
291 00:24:55.860 --> 00:25:02.459 John Roberts: area is, if you look at Tanyard, which is this one here?
292 00:25:04.220 --> 00:25:09.610 John Roberts: There's the entrance. It then goes behind all the other houses in that street.
293 00:25:09.610 --> 00:25:10.190 tristram cary: Hmm.
294 00:25:11.790 --> 00:25:14.769 John Roberts: And it was. It was trying to determine
295 00:25:15.370 --> 00:25:22.380 John Roberts: where each part of the village interacted with its with its neighbors. Which is why this these layers were created.
296 00:25:27.650 --> 00:25:30.589 John Roberts: So we actually mapped the whole of the center of the village.
297 00:25:33.580 --> 00:25:35.570 John Roberts: It was interesting with the fact that
298 00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:42.510 John Roberts: I'm colorblind. So some of the colors don't actually work. But no, we'll gloss over that bit.
299 00:25:43.460 --> 00:25:50.810 John Roberts: and you can turn the layers on and off as you wish. And then, lastly, we included in it
300 00:25:51.830 --> 00:25:56.759 John Roberts: the conservation area, so we could tell what properties were in the conservation area.
301 00:25:57.130 --> 00:26:04.109 John Roberts: If I go back to my normal map, if I May.
302 00:26:12.490 --> 00:26:14.650 John Roberts: The reasoning behind it was.
303 00:26:16.050 --> 00:26:16.530 tristram cary: Okay.
304 00:26:27.310 --> 00:26:28.750 John Roberts: Such as Castle Street.
305 00:26:30.390 --> 00:26:35.000 John Roberts: Here you have Pool House, the garden for Poor House is this one
306 00:26:35.420 --> 00:26:38.210 John Roberts: which actually links to one in another Street.
307 00:26:40.150 --> 00:26:45.120 John Roberts: This area of land here is the gardens for Number 9 down here.
308 00:26:45.350 --> 00:26:46.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Funny.
309 00:26:46.040 --> 00:26:48.710 John Roberts: That that is the garden for Number 5.
310 00:26:50.080 --> 00:26:56.580 John Roberts: This is the post Office, whose garden goes all the way behind all their houses and
311 00:26:56.730 --> 00:27:01.939 John Roberts: reason we created all these layers was to try and determine
312 00:27:02.750 --> 00:27:08.869 John Roberts: in what street people lived and where where the land was that they were, they owned, used whatever.
313 00:27:09.730 --> 00:27:10.270 tristram cary: Hmm.
314 00:27:13.490 --> 00:27:21.250 John Roberts: One other use for public map, if I may, a road scheme.
315 00:27:27.850 --> 00:27:30.220 John Roberts: Now, again, I'm going to ask you what you're looking at.
316 00:27:33.210 --> 00:27:34.239 Stuart Bacon: You probably look me up.
317 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:35.359 John Roberts: Yup, that's right.
318 00:27:35.360 --> 00:27:35.870 Sue Goss: I don't know.
319 00:27:35.870 --> 00:27:40.520 John Roberts: Okay, this is a road scheme we're talking to Somerset about.
320 00:27:40.690 --> 00:27:44.469 John Roberts: although if it comes off, the the parish will have to pay for it.
321 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:49.530 John Roberts: But this is all the elements that are in that road.
322 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:57.899 John Roberts: If that's printed on a 4, even a 3, the detail isn't really good enough for people to use.
323 00:27:58.120 --> 00:28:03.810 John Roberts: If you create a public map and send them the earl so that they can view it, they can come right in.
324 00:28:04.110 --> 00:28:04.910 Sue Goss: Hmm.
325 00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:11.129 John Roberts: And see all the detail, and if they need to, they can screen, print, etcetera.
326 00:28:14.180 --> 00:28:17.370 John Roberts: and you can turn the. You can turn the details on and off.
327 00:28:20.070 --> 00:28:21.630 John Roberts: So where is it?
328 00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.019 John Roberts: By sending them a public map?
329 00:28:27.780 --> 00:28:30.530 John Roberts: They can actually analyze that map a lot deeper.
330 00:28:31.170 --> 00:28:33.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Does that make sense? Absolutely me?
331 00:28:35.234 --> 00:28:44.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: John, could I ask you to touch on one topic that we've actually missed out so far in your original public map. Could you show the concourse and the streams and the culverts.
332 00:28:46.020 --> 00:28:49.720 John Roberts: Yeah, I can do that as I am here, if you like.
333 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:54.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, sure, just that. It's I thought it was very useful and very interesting.
334 00:28:58.657 --> 00:29:00.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sorry, Bob. Nice to see you.
335 00:29:01.210 --> 00:29:02.819 Bob Grainger: Thanks, great thanks, everybody!
336 00:29:03.660 --> 00:29:04.050 John Roberts: Bye, bob.
337 00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:04.740 Bob Grainger: Bye.
338 00:29:06.153 --> 00:29:06.860 tristram cary: We.
339 00:29:06.860 --> 00:29:11.189 John Roberts: We should now be looking at my parish online screen.
340 00:29:11.570 --> 00:29:12.190 tristram cary: Yep.
341 00:29:18.430 --> 00:29:22.280 John Roberts: This isn't complete yet, but the stream runs all the way through the village.
342 00:29:23.855 --> 00:29:30.759 John Roberts: The blue. The blue is the stream where we can see it. The other colors are where it goes into a culvert, and we can't see it.
343 00:29:33.300 --> 00:29:35.560 John Roberts: So the obvious one's under a road.
344 00:29:36.630 --> 00:29:45.110 John Roberts: and and then it goes into a culvert under these houses, and when you come down to here
345 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.280 John Roberts: it goes into a culvert fair enough.
346 00:29:49.170 --> 00:29:54.429 John Roberts: but then it disappears into a culvert under the library, under these houses under the road.
347 00:29:54.610 --> 00:29:56.099 John Roberts: and then emerges here.
348 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.779 John Roberts: And it was it was trying to trace all of these.
349 00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:09.620 John Roberts: Where it keeps disappearing, which we've now done and we've had to correct
350 00:30:09.730 --> 00:30:13.119 John Roberts: originally, we thought the stream went across there.
351 00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:15.719 John Roberts: We've now discovered it. Does that
352 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:19.560 Stuart Bacon: How did you find that out.
353 00:30:21.390 --> 00:30:22.999 John Roberts: By lifting a manhole.
354 00:30:25.304 --> 00:30:25.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We.
355 00:30:25.780 --> 00:30:26.480 Stuart Bacon: I don't know.
356 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:32.979 John Roberts: This. This is the mainstream this section goes across.
357 00:30:33.380 --> 00:30:38.240 John Roberts: goes underneath the junction and feeds some medieval.
358 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:38.660 Sue Goss: Others.
359 00:30:38.660 --> 00:30:40.110 John Roberts: Within Stowe Court.
360 00:30:41.650 --> 00:30:42.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Personally.
361 00:30:42.220 --> 00:30:48.610 John Roberts: They they would they were drying out, and we couldn't understand why, and we found that
362 00:30:49.620 --> 00:30:54.430 John Roberts: this part was blocked that was dry and full of weeds.
363 00:30:55.020 --> 00:31:00.580 John Roberts: So we rodded what we thought was across the road, and it had no effect
364 00:31:01.946 --> 00:31:07.080 John Roberts: and then we found it actually went across there, and a local farmer came down with one of those big
365 00:31:07.360 --> 00:31:13.660 John Roberts: water tankers and blasted 700 litres of water through, and the number of.
366 00:31:13.660 --> 00:31:14.020 Sue Goss: Last year.
367 00:31:14.020 --> 00:31:16.339 Andrew Clegg: Bottles that appeared was unbelievable.
368 00:31:16.840 --> 00:31:20.230 John Roberts: But we've now put the water into there.
369 00:31:20.340 --> 00:31:25.590 John Roberts: and the great delight is is that this junction now gets flooded
370 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.440 John Roberts: because highways haven't cleared their bit.
371 00:31:31.570 --> 00:31:34.900 John Roberts: and we have got no intention of doing it for.
372 00:31:37.090 --> 00:31:38.989 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Think that's just the most marvellous.
373 00:31:38.990 --> 00:31:39.610 tristram cary: Yeah, sweet.
374 00:31:39.610 --> 00:31:53.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Indicator of what you can do with parish online, because the money you save by tracking that culvert and the the bit that went to the old part of the ponds in the ancient monument place was wonderful.
375 00:31:53.290 --> 00:31:59.549 John Roberts: Yeah. As I say, it's not complete yet, because I've got to go out into the fields and trace it to the edge of the parish. But
376 00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:06.950 John Roberts: It's quite good, because I think it eventually ends up in Sue's parish. I don't know.
377 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.549 Sue Goss: Probably does. Of course there's all the flooding there. Thanks, John.
378 00:32:10.550 --> 00:32:10.900 John Roberts: Yeah.
379 00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:12.579 Andrew Clegg: With the plastic bottles.
380 00:32:12.580 --> 00:32:16.200 Retired Clerk: Yeah, I expect she's still picking up the plastic bottles.
381 00:32:16.430 --> 00:32:17.350 Sue Goss: You can keep going.
382 00:32:17.350 --> 00:32:21.429 John Roberts: No highways have got those. They haven't moved them yet. It was.
383 00:32:21.550 --> 00:32:27.569 John Roberts: This culvert is only 300 mil diameter, and the number of
384 00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:31.829 John Roberts: plastic bottles that came out through it. It was absolutely unbelievable.
385 00:32:34.110 --> 00:32:43.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So out of interest. Who built the culverts in the 1st place, and therefore do they not have a map of where they built them? Or was it pre.
386 00:32:43.770 --> 00:32:44.859 tristram cary: I mean this.
387 00:32:48.040 --> 00:32:48.530 John Roberts: No.
388 00:32:48.530 --> 00:32:53.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We know they went water, are they the Highways department? Are they near the Derry that did it.
389 00:32:54.360 --> 00:33:01.199 John Roberts: It. It complicated riparian rights. Who originally built them.
390 00:33:01.380 --> 00:33:02.730 Sue Goss: I haven't got a clue.
391 00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:08.710 John Roberts: The ones under the road you would assume are highways. No, they're not
392 00:33:09.030 --> 00:33:15.780 John Roberts: anything that falls below. 12 inches below the surface of the road is not a highway's responsibility.
393 00:33:15.780 --> 00:33:16.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know.
394 00:33:18.210 --> 00:33:25.189 John Roberts: So what they were going to do with that particular call that we were looking at, they were going to say to the householders your your responsibility.
395 00:33:26.100 --> 00:33:28.480 John Roberts: And we said, No!
396 00:33:30.250 --> 00:33:32.770 John Roberts: Where the stream or the culvert
397 00:33:33.550 --> 00:33:37.350 John Roberts: borders somebody's property, it is their responsibility.
398 00:33:38.980 --> 00:33:41.679 John Roberts: So if it gets blocked, the household has got to dig it up.
399 00:33:42.780 --> 00:33:43.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right.
400 00:33:44.090 --> 00:33:44.760 Sue Goss: Gosh!
401 00:33:45.060 --> 00:33:50.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But very handy that you've got that map there, and you can send it to each affected householder and say, Look.
402 00:33:51.190 --> 00:33:55.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think that's really good use of the of the system. Thank you, John, very much.
403 00:33:55.550 --> 00:33:59.750 tristram cary: Did you say, John, that when it borders somebody's house it's their responsibility.
404 00:33:59.750 --> 00:34:00.210 Sue Goss: Right.
405 00:34:00.210 --> 00:34:07.809 John Roberts: Yeah, riparian rights. If it. If if you've got land and the stream is on the border like mine is here.
406 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.200 John Roberts: then my responsibilities will go halfway across that stream.
407 00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:14.350 tristram cary: Go ahead!
408 00:34:14.797 --> 00:34:17.479 John Roberts: And if it's in a culvert
409 00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:19.700 John Roberts: it goes halfway across that culvert.
410 00:34:23.100 --> 00:34:26.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I live on an unadopted road
411 00:34:26.780 --> 00:34:30.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that is therefore not owned by anybody in theory.
412 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:42.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the question is, what do you do with it when it starts getting so full of potholes that the rubbish people will not send their trucks down for fear of damaging the truck.
413 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: or possibly even the people inside the truck.
414 00:34:46.540 --> 00:34:58.029 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So then the onus becomes upon the, as you say, the riparian rights that each household is in theory responsible for halfway across
415 00:34:58.170 --> 00:34:59.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the road.
416 00:34:59.470 --> 00:35:16.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so do you all get together and and agree to buy a ton of pebbles, or do each patient. Some people try and do it, tarmac. Some people do it concrete, some people, and it's a real mess. So we went to the local Heritage Society and said, Can we go back through the ownership
417 00:35:17.130 --> 00:35:21.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones: of this, and it became clear that the
418 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:33.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What's the word? I'm looking for? Descendants of the person who originally owned the land. And then who was responsible for dividing it up into properties
419 00:35:33.890 --> 00:35:41.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: carefully did not assign the road to any of the properties, and therefore it stayed the ownership of
420 00:35:41.210 --> 00:35:54.519 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the original landowner, and the original landowner's descendant is still alive, and lives permanently in the West Indies, and has no desire whatsoever to acknowledge that he owns the road.
421 00:35:54.770 --> 00:36:01.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and because he won't acknowledge it, then no one else has any claim to it. So it gets, as John says, hugely complicated.
422 00:36:01.990 --> 00:36:06.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I just thought that your Friday afternoon. Probably we all the better for knowing about these issues.
423 00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:14.550 John Roberts: Yeah, we we were lucky with the
424 00:36:14.690 --> 00:36:18.630 John Roberts: Colbert's down on the main, A. 39, the Junction because
425 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:23.910 John Roberts: the builders had a survey team in with cameras and everything else, and they mapped
426 00:36:24.390 --> 00:36:27.570 John Roberts: everything that goes under the main road and under the Junction.
427 00:36:28.610 --> 00:36:30.160 John Roberts: And I've got those maps.
428 00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:34.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right and at all depths. So they went down.
429 00:36:34.330 --> 00:36:36.060 John Roberts: Yeah, they went right the way down.
430 00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:36.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Wow!
431 00:36:37.410 --> 00:36:42.790 John Roberts: So they let me have those maps. So that was actually the start of me working my way back through the stream.
432 00:36:44.180 --> 00:36:44.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
433 00:36:44.570 --> 00:36:48.520 Stuart Bacon: Good sort of base to start from. If you've got all that data.
434 00:36:48.860 --> 00:36:53.670 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, you can't argue with the scan. It's kind of.
435 00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:54.920 John Roberts: No, not really.
436 00:36:55.660 --> 00:37:02.309 John Roberts: But yeah, it's it's it's convincing people that it is their responsibility
437 00:37:04.460 --> 00:37:09.020 John Roberts: even coming down to. If you don't clear the weeds. We're going to get flooding.
438 00:37:10.535 --> 00:37:13.560 John Roberts: well, it's not my job. Well, it is. It's your stream.
439 00:37:18.120 --> 00:37:25.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: John, I'm going to go back to that port. His head question I was discussing earlier. Would you suggest, then, that the best thing for
440 00:37:25.830 --> 00:37:34.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the local councillor to do is to get in touch with Adam Reimer, or should they get in touch with you, and you put it forward as the sole point of contact with Adam.
441 00:37:36.780 --> 00:37:41.070 John Roberts: I'm not sure where port his head comes. That's why I'm puzzling.
442 00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:42.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's part of North Somerset.
443 00:37:42.740 --> 00:37:43.639 Retired Clerk: North, Somerset.
444 00:37:43.640 --> 00:37:46.930 John Roberts: It's North Somerset which we're not North Somerset.
445 00:37:48.380 --> 00:37:51.300 Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you say we, you mean the unitary does not include, or something.
446 00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:53.599 John Roberts: It's not part of the unitary authority.
447 00:37:53.910 --> 00:37:54.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
448 00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's a county of its own, or is it.
449 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:03.310 John Roberts: Not something. Yeah, basically. Yeah, it's not something I can do on their behalf, because.
450 00:38:03.310 --> 00:38:08.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So okay? And nor can Adam, right? So that answers my question. Thank you very much.
451 00:38:08.990 --> 00:38:11.779 Retired Clerk: Somebody at Weston Super Mayor, I suspect.
452 00:38:12.250 --> 00:38:12.810 John Roberts: Yeah.
453 00:38:12.810 --> 00:38:13.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you.
454 00:38:14.110 --> 00:38:18.270 Retired Clerk: Well, that's their that's their base, their their council bases at Western.
455 00:38:18.720 --> 00:38:20.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, thank you.
456 00:38:29.430 --> 00:38:32.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But once we can call it an early afternoon, no one has anything else.
457 00:38:33.080 --> 00:38:35.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: any bricks to throw at Tristram.
458 00:38:35.600 --> 00:38:36.350 tristram cary: No.
459 00:38:37.220 --> 00:38:41.309 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Rich has come all the way back from Spain for this, and then we're gonna go early.
460 00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:44.500 John Roberts: Well.
461 00:38:44.500 --> 00:38:48.230 tristram cary: To ring up the parish online office and see see why it's going slowly.
462 00:38:49.105 --> 00:38:52.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you would, disgraceful.
463 00:38:52.550 --> 00:38:56.119 John Roberts: Worked. I mean, it worked quick enough when I was doing what I was doing.
464 00:38:57.160 --> 00:39:04.290 John Roberts: But is every so often you? You'll go to do something. You go to say something, and you end up with a donut, or it just says, No, I'm not going to bother.
465 00:39:05.160 --> 00:39:05.720 tristram cary: Hmm.
466 00:39:05.890 --> 00:39:07.790 John Roberts: It's not. It's not all the time.
467 00:39:07.990 --> 00:39:08.770 tristram cary: Thank you.
468 00:39:09.530 --> 00:39:17.780 Andrew Clegg: The real irritation is is when it just is delayed a small amount because you you you've
469 00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:31.750 Andrew Clegg: logged in and you know it's working. Then you save something, and it doesn't save for 2 seconds, and you hit the save one again because you think my keyboard made a mistake, and then it saves it twice.
470 00:39:31.750 --> 00:39:33.130 tristram cary: Is it twice? Yeah.
471 00:39:33.950 --> 00:39:38.610 John Roberts: Hey? You do have to be careful, though, because it's not that long ago I put a ticket in
472 00:39:39.149 --> 00:39:43.999 John Roberts: to Chris, and Chris was able to come back and say, yes, it's because you hadn't done this.
473 00:39:46.680 --> 00:39:47.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
474 00:39:47.270 --> 00:39:50.190 John Roberts: And I've been. I've been trying for days to get it to work.
475 00:39:50.870 --> 00:39:54.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, and but it's even worse if he was correct.
476 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.600 Andrew Clegg: He's always he always is. That's why.
477 00:39:56.600 --> 00:39:58.741 John Roberts: He? He's always correct.
478 00:39:59.170 --> 00:40:06.089 Andrew Clegg: I I'm very reluctant to put these Friday night Friday afternoon things into him, because he's always correct.
479 00:40:09.136 --> 00:40:12.510 tristram cary: I think, waste it and try something else.
480 00:40:12.510 --> 00:40:21.060 Andrew Clegg: I think they have a list of things they don't tell us, you see, just for this eventuality.
481 00:40:21.570 --> 00:40:22.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Wonderful, wonderful.
482 00:40:23.890 --> 00:40:25.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, Tristan, maybe you can start.
483 00:40:25.230 --> 00:40:25.799 tristram cary: How do you miss.
484 00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:31.689 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Phone call. We're saying, I've just been talking to a guy a bunch of guys who cannot fail to risk their praises of you.
485 00:40:32.580 --> 00:40:34.203 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But in the meantime.
486 00:40:34.610 --> 00:40:36.490 tristram cary: Despite the fact. You're always right, is it?
487 00:40:36.490 --> 00:40:44.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. Yes, there you go. That's the perfect start. I thought. John's explanation of the use of public maps today was.
488 00:40:44.850 --> 00:40:45.800 tristram cary: Yes, thank you. Very good.
489 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:53.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Anyone who would like to volunteer to do a similar presentation in the future. So we can tell everybody you should be coming to learn this stuff
490 00:40:58.500 --> 00:41:02.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm looking with. Bd. I used to it.
491 00:41:02.230 --> 00:41:11.840 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, no, I was giving it somebody else an opportunity to jump in. And yeah, save me.
492 00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:18.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's more a question of what do you find that you spend most of your time doing in parish online? What's the most frequent use of it?
493 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:35.923 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, no, I mean, I I can. I can put something together on on what we've been, what we've been doing, and and the benefits of, I guess. Looking at housing development and where we've got maps of
494 00:41:37.680 --> 00:41:40.330 Stuart Bacon: the the proposed sort of
495 00:41:42.030 --> 00:41:50.869 Stuart Bacon: Sheila development areas. And whatever across the the district, and how that can impact on not just us. But as you look at sort of
496 00:41:52.940 --> 00:42:00.510 Stuart Bacon: development elsewhere, how that can potentially then impact on us as people cut through the village to get from A to B.
497 00:42:00.510 --> 00:42:01.469 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yeah.
498 00:42:01.470 --> 00:42:10.620 Stuart Bacon: Roadworks that are gonna have to happen. For that. And yeah, how people will then naturally divert because of what's going on.
499 00:42:11.740 --> 00:42:32.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think that would be very helpful if you wouldn't mind for, say for next week again to give the background. Tristram, I think there's an awful lot of users or no owners of parish online out there who probably bought it to go and create a neighborhood plan. And now they've done that. And so it goes into really sort of
500 00:42:33.441 --> 00:42:35.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: everyone's forgetful area, but, in fact.
501 00:42:36.120 --> 00:42:42.729 Graham Stoddart-Stones: can be done. But I'm trying to give people sort of inspiration to come along and find out what they could be doing with the product.
502 00:42:42.910 --> 00:42:46.259 tristram cary: Yeah, that's very good, very wise. I know that's a problem.
503 00:42:46.910 --> 00:42:47.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So
504 00:42:48.010 --> 00:42:48.809 tristram cary: Thank you.
505 00:42:49.440 --> 00:43:07.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now that you're here, I'll just admit to you that I told everybody else that their problems over reports from the asset and management layers was all going to be solved by a soon to be announced. No dates, I said, sort of march.
506 00:43:07.240 --> 00:43:12.700 tristram cary: I know I know it's it is. It is on its way. So that that will be exciting.
507 00:43:12.700 --> 00:43:14.739 tristram cary: That's great, like. I can't give you a better date.
508 00:43:14.740 --> 00:43:18.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, of course we understand that Chris. Chris knows everything.
509 00:43:19.340 --> 00:43:25.619 John Roberts: The the other, if you like. Obvious one with public maps, is planning applications which we all do.
510 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:32.660 John Roberts: But it it's so that people can go on and look at planning applications without having to bother the clock, or whoever.
511 00:43:32.660 --> 00:43:34.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. No. I agree with you.
512 00:43:35.030 --> 00:43:37.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we can touch on that next week as well.
513 00:43:38.270 --> 00:43:41.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and if you're here we'll ask you to do it, since you've already.
514 00:43:41.900 --> 00:43:43.010 John Roberts: Or it may not be.
515 00:43:44.900 --> 00:43:46.959 tristram cary: Almost almost certainly won't be now.
516 00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:52.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, but, as you say, everyone else has got it, so we'll find somebody who can do it.
517 00:43:53.980 --> 00:43:54.529 John Roberts: It's not a problem.
518 00:43:54.530 --> 00:44:04.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But if nobody else has any questions or points to raise, or arrows to throw, then let's say everybody have a great weekend, and we'll see you next time. Thank you so much.
519 00:44:04.060 --> 00:44:05.419 tristram cary: Do you want to sound familiar?
520 00:44:05.930 --> 00:44:07.850 tristram cary: Discuss the great collaboration.
521 00:44:08.090 --> 00:44:12.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. Yes, please. So goodbye to everyone else. Thank you, guys.