00:42:12 Bob Grainger: Sorry, got to go. I'll be back next week.
00:45:56 Mark Holder: I'm obviously brand new - Roger's Drain and Gully demo sold me on this immediately. So this is going to be a basic question - on Gullies - which is data fed from Somerset Council (I assume) Can I then add user defined fields so that I can set up a status of each drain/gully - when it was inspected (locally) with maybe even a phot attached.
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Stuart Bacon: Good afternoon.
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Roger Simonite: Good afternoon. How are you?
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Roger Simonite: Can you hear me?
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Stuart Bacon: I can. Yes. Can you hear me?
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Roger Simonite: No. Okay. Well, I I assumed you were talking to me.
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Stuart Bacon: Sorry. I was just changing my audio settings. I just wanted to make sure you could still hear me from.
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Roger Simonite: Oh, I see.
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Roger Simonite: Alright! I'm just going to go quiet a minute. I'm just going to try and open Paris online without losing you. So.
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Stuart Bacon: Yeah, no, I'm just doing the same, so don't fret.
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Stuart Bacon: I am.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, how are you?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're in good shape.
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Stuart Bacon: Very well, thank you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good. Hi, Roger, I won't interrupt your lunch.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: well, touch of winter today. Lots of sunshine, lots of blue sky, but actually quite chilly.
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Stuart Bacon: Yeah. And it's
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Stuart Bacon: it will be
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You do you have? You're having weird trouble with your microphone again, Stuart, and.
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Stuart Bacon: Come on!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You disappear halfway through a sentence.
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Stuart Bacon: Oh, I don't know.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's almost as if you got a volume control that says, Oh, he's way too loud, so let's turn him down, oops. He's disappeared. Turn it back up again, turn him down, turn up, turn him down!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very strange.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright! Let's see.
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Stuart Bacon: Thanks.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, you disappear halfway through a sentence.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Actually, your, your video is extremely clear, and we can see every movement. So I don't think it's a bandwidth issue. It sounds like just a microphone issue
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: or a computer issue with like the sound circuit. In some way.
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Roger Simonite: Graham. There's a chap who should be joining us today, Mark, who, having
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Roger Simonite: been on your not last week, I missed last week but the week before, and and you're all delving into gullies.
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Roger Simonite: he! He is a parish councillor in in Chedsea, and he was telling me about all all these issues with flooding.
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Roger Simonite: and how that they were mapping where all the drains were. And I and I said to him, We did a zoom, and I said, Well, have you seen Parrish online? And he hadn't
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Roger Simonite: charges, for a parish is
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Roger Simonite: governed by the size, so he only has to pay, I think, 60 pounds a year, because it's a very small parish, so he's he's over the moon so hopefully he'll be joining us shortly.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Great.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you are spreading the word.
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Roger Simonite: Yes, and your your meetings are, you know, a great success on by that account.
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Parish Clerk: Oh, God! Creep.
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Stuart Bacon: Offering him up doesn't get you a discount.
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Parish Clerk: No, no, you're still. You're still paying more to my small parish.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you still the clerk of your small parish?
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Parish Clerk: 1st of November.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you irreplaceable?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
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Parish Clerk: Evidently no.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whoa!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
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Parish Clerk: Party supplies have arrived.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Afternoon, John.
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John Roberts: Good afternoon. All.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart would like to be talking to us, but he isn't.
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Parish Clerk: He was.
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Parish Clerk: You obviously didn't hear him.
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Parish Clerk: He's probably underwater like the rest of us.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh.
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Parish Clerk: God, the parish. The parish was awash the other 2 nights ago, all coming from Nether Stowe downhill, flowing, flowing towards to the big, the big construction site on the on the coast.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I thought it was the 2 of you who? No, no, it's Andrew, isn't it adamant that water flows uphill on his panning applications?
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John Roberts: He probably
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John Roberts: share as well.
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Parish Clerk: Yeah, he probably has
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Parish Clerk: cool.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've got
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: a few people have signed up to join, but haven't got here yet, and
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Roger was saying that he's hoping for Mark from one of his areas. Speaking of Andrew, good day to him.
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Andrew Clegg: Hello!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And Chris Edwards will be arriving late.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: which is a shame because 2 of the best questions I've had come from him. So
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: have mind.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Roger, you hold the the banner high, as being the most likely person with questions to ask today.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah. Well, I've always got plenty of questions, but what I don't want to do is dominate. The meeting.
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Stuart Bacon: Feel free, to.
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Parish Clerk: Yeah, feel free. Yeah.
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Parish Clerk: Either that or Andrew will start talking about phosphate. And the fact that all this rain is.
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah, I was going to. I was going to. I was going to ask what's happened to the America's Cup.
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Parish Clerk: What's it?
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Parish Clerk: Oh, the old time!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, spoiler, alert, please. I've gone up to race 5, so don't go beyond there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But the Race 5 saw
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: it was fairly light winds, and the New Zealand boat came off its skids and never got back up, at least not enough to catch up with the Brits. So that was their 1st wind. So it was 1, 5, 1, 4 when I last saw it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But I do not wish to be advised what happens next, because otherwise it takes all the fun away from watching them.
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Parish Clerk: 7 and 8 were on now.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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John Roberts: How many is there altogether, then.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's the 1st 7.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right? Okay, 7. Wins.
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Roger Simonite: But is Ben Ainsley got the ability to win? You think.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yeah, he's got the ability.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: when he was up against the Italian boat they had that American
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: came with the most amazing comeback in sports few years ago. So the United States was something like 6 0 down against New Zealand
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and New England had to win one more race to catch it at 7,
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the Americans came back and got them at 11, 7, or something.
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Roger Simonite: Really cool.
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Parish Clerk: Stop! Stop! Stop giving away! Stop giving away the scores.
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Andrew Clegg: So so it's it's the 1st to 7. It's not the best of 7.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Correct. It's for you.
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Andrew Clegg: Okay.
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John Roberts: What intrigued me was the fact that the hydraulics on the boat are powered by a bloke on a push bike.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Correct
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you could. There's hope for Richard yet.
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Parish Clerk: Just been just been out putting some extra extra stuff in my tires and some more
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Parish Clerk: lubricant ready for ready for the for the flail season to to catch me again, giving me another puncture.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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Roger Simonite: Could I ask some questions? Then? If if
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Roger Simonite: Roger.
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John Roberts: If you don't, we'll chunter on all afternoon.
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Roger Simonite: Okay. Well, I'll if I can, I'll share my screen, because I just want to
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Roger Simonite: share screen.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Afternoon, Hazel! Well done!
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Parish Clerk: That's Helen. But never mind.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, well, okay, so.
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Roger Simonite: So the question relates to administration. I've sort of inherited the parish online.
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Roger Simonite: and when I came to look at administration here, we everything seems to be the the same. Is that because that's the the password to log in and and everybody is the same. Is that is that quite normal?
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Parish Clerk: Not sure.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm not sure that the profile is the same as the login you do. If you click on any one of them and then go into edit mode.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, no, not that one, not the admin.
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Roger Simonite: Right. So if I.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. That'll do.
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Roger Simonite: So so.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go up to his pencil in the top right.
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Roger Simonite: Okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can change your password, but you can't actually see it. So
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: he's p. 2 B. At 40 ud, so that's his login is different from everybody else's. So they're all individual accounts, right?
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Roger Simonite: Okay. So so some, I mean, some of these people seem historic. I mean, I don't even know who who Keith is and never, never met him at the parish so so effectively, I could remove him.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I should. Yes, how are you.
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Roger Simonite: How do I go about doing that.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very, very complicated. You have to highlight the person you want to do.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then go up to the dustbin.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, middle of the top corner.
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Roger Simonite: So I can just.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go!
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Roger Simonite: Okay. So if I now wanted to add one.
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Roger Simonite: how would I go about doing that?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, that's also extremely complicated.
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Roger Simonite: Oh, so it's this one here.
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Roger Simonite: So if I go in there.
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Roger Simonite: username
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Roger Simonite: Linda.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah.
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Roger Simonite: this is my wife. So I've got to keep him with her.
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Roger Simonite: department. I don't know whether she's got one, so.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, she's wife, isn't she?
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Parish Clerk: Thanks.
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Roger Simonite: okay. Now, what type have we got then? So.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So the choices are a reader is says what it says on the tin. It's just read. Only
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: an editor can make adjustments to what's already there in a layer, but cannot add anything new.
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Roger Simonite: All right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: A data manager can do everything except add new users.
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Roger Simonite: Okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then an admin does the whole lot.
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Roger Simonite: So I think I could give her editor role at the moment.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That means she can't add any new layers or anything like that which you may be very desirable from your point of view.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah, for the time being. Anyway, I don't even know whether they'll actually use it, but that might be seen. So this chap is no longer on the
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Roger Simonite: council, so he can go
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Roger Simonite: delete user.
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Roger Simonite: and then I'll do the next one, which was add one.
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Roger Simonite: I think.
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Andrew Clegg: It's worth Roger saying that she has. She'll have to reply with a password pretty quickly, otherwise otherwise you'll have to do that. This whole process again.
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Roger Simonite: Okay, okay, but it.
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Stuart Bacon: One thing there as well, Roger, that won't work
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Stuart Bacon: or spice.
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Roger Simonite: You're you're you're breaking up.
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Stuart Bacon: Hang on, let me change my account.
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Stuart Bacon: How do.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think the problem, Stuart, is that you've moved thing around things around. You're not looking up to heaven anymore.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And yeah, that's better.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But now.
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Stuart Bacon: Yeah, does that work.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah, well.
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Stuart Bacon: Sorry the username's got a space in it which won't work.
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah,
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Roger Simonite: Okay.
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Roger Simonite: so I'll just put Ian. Then I'll leave it. As Ian.
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
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Stuart Bacon: Yeah.
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Roger Simonite: See, all these little things are so valuable when you going and using it, and then it all goes. The computer says no.
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Roger Simonite: and then.
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Roger Robinson: Here, here.
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Andrew Clegg: Oh!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon. Bob.
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Andrew Clegg: Hi! Bob!
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Bob Grainger: Hello!
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Bob Grainger: And I've got to leave about 22. So Hello! Hello and goodbye soon soon.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we've been told by Roger. He's got an endless supply of questions for.
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Bob Grainger: Boom.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you have one that you need, answered, I should get in there quick. Yeah.
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Roger Simonite: I haven't got that many. I just this.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now I can come.
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Roger Simonite: Out of sharing. Now, now I can do this.
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Bob Grainger: Graham, only I'm only here for the cake.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There. There is a sort of
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Roger Simonite: Okay. So how am I gonna come out?
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Roger Simonite: Where? Where do I get to.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The clue again is extremely complicated if you go to the right hand. Well, that was a complicated way of doing it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's there's always a little globe icon on the top right corner that will take you back to maps.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then when you're back on the maps, page, you you're in where you need to be.
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Roger Simonite: So so let's cancel what we were going to do there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon, Roger.
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Roger Robinson: And you, Roger. Yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nice to see a new face.
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Roger Simonite: And Roger too. So say say again, Graham. How do I stop sharing.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you have stopped sharing.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're not sharing now. But I thought your question was going to be, how do you get out of the user list back to the maps.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And there is in the top right hand corner of the screen a series of 3 icons, the middle of which will be a globe.
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Roger Simonite: Okay. Okay.
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Roger Simonite: Thank you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you're Roger S. And the other is Roger R.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or R. You could be R squared. How about that?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Maybe that's too easily misconstrued.
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Roger Robinson: Absolutely.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's exactly so. R. 2, would you have any specific question that you weren't asked? Please.
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Bob Grainger: The other one should be G. 2. Graham.
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Roger Robinson: So, yeah.
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Roger Robinson: And that is, I suppose the main question is, is there any
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Roger Robinson: online help menu you can use? Because what I, for instance, when I was trying to put on a map.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So the answer to your question is, yes and yes, and usually the way things get fixed around here is for you to share your screen and show us what the issue is. And so
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: here we'll walk you through it.
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Roger Robinson: Okay, well, that's very difficult. Because I'm actually on my my, my wife's computer, because the
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Roger Robinson: computer in my room is being prepared for my mother-in-law's 100th birthday party tomorrow.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, provided you can remember your login and password. Your argument is irrelevant.
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Roger Robinson: Hurry up!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Presumably your wife's computer is attached to the Internet, which is why you're talking to us now. And once you're on the Internet, you can talk to parish online.
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Roger Robinson: Right, so.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Need to go in your browser to a an address called Xmap Dot Cloud, or is it parash online dot cloud? Somebody correct.
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Stuart Bacon: Repression line.com.
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Andrew Clegg: Both will work.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's true. Both will work.
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Roger Robinson: Sounds far too complicated for me to do anything about it at this minute.
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Stuart Bacon: Okay.
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Roger Robinson: And also my wife's
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John Roberts: Muted.
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Bob Grainger: If it.
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John Roberts: If this is drawing polygons around areas. Graham, do you want me to share the screen.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely.
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John Roberts: That's if Roger comes back.
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Parish Clerk: Yeah, so.
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Roger Robinson: Nothing. Oh, sorry
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Roger Robinson: you answered it. No
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Roger Simonite: I've I've just spoken to my friend as to why he hasn't arrived yet, and he's got a a little bit of a crisis with his Internet at the moment, but he he thinks he'll he'll be in in about 5Â min.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. Thank you.
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John Roberts: Roger, you were talking about
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Roger Robinson: Yes, please.
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John Roberts: This is. I don't know how much you can see.
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Roger Robinson: Yeah, that's good.
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John Roberts: Right.
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John Roberts: This is what we we've done to areas of the village.
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Roger Robinson: Yes.
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Parish Clerk: Hey? So British.
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John Roberts: I have got dog pins.
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John Roberts: Basically, they're polygon.
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John Roberts: Add feature.
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Roger Robinson: That's right.
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John Roberts: Once that's there.
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John Roberts: If I save it.
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Roger Robinson: That's right. It's all a matter of familiarizing myself with with the buttons.
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John Roberts: Yeah. But if I if I then highlight it, I can go to edit.
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Roger Robinson: Right.
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John Roberts: That allows me then to
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Roger Robinson: Yes, that that is the tool that I would. I would delight in being able to use.
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John Roberts: And I. I would just work my way around the Polygon. Then
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John Roberts: I walk all the way around, and when I'm happy I just press save.
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Roger Robinson: You've you've done in 90 seconds what? It took me about 90Â min to.
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John Roberts: I've been practicing.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a couple of golden principles, Roger. The 1st thing is is when you're doing a polygon around a complicated surface. This just do it very rough and ready to begin with. So, although I mean, you might argue that this is an oblong, and I would just have done like John did just go around the oblong 1st with 4 straight lines, and then come back in and straighten it out afterwards, because it's much much easier
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: to make a mistake. If you're doing the complicated bit, and if you if you slip and the system saves itself, then you've got a half finished
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Roger Robinson: Absolutely.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So do it blunt and and broad brush to start with, and then go in and fine, tune it later. And the other point is that when you're fine tuning it zoom in as far as you can. It's it's practicable, because the more you zoom in the more you you can see where you've got to touch.
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Roger Robinson: Good. No, no, that that's splendid. That's that's that's gonna help a lot. Thank you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, that's that's 1 question. You've got to think about another one now, whilst we go back to Roger Est with his next one.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and he said, Hazel, I'm sorry I hadn't checked to see whether you have any questions today.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and at the moment you're on mute.
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John Roberts: It could be. How do I get the sound to work with.
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Helen Davey: Is, it
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Helen Davey: haven't got a specific question. But I will just say, I emailed the person you said to email, and they didn't know what I was talking about.
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Helen Davey: So I've now contacted my local council to ask them if they know anything about parish online. So I'm just still plodding on trying to
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Helen Davey: if they've got what I need, like
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Helen Davey: defibrillators and poo bins, I don't have to go around and find them and put them in.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely, right.
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Helen Davey: At the moment I'm still struggling.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if I recall, didn't you? We find examples of where.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: as its Suffolk coast was already exporting data.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I suggested that you take that to Simon Miles at Geosphere and have him do the rest of it for you?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you try that.
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Helen Davey: So miles. I think.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So what you did what we did with you, Helen, was to
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Helen Davey: Yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you just took the URL of any one of those sites and email it to Simon Miles.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: saying, Here's a 1 example. Could we please ask them for? And then you gave a list of the things you wanted.
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Helen Davey: Where I finished up was
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Helen Davey: someone called.
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Helen Davey: Clear man!
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Helen Davey: Your inquiry requires an immediate response, please. Oh, no, that was because she was.
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Helen Davey: I have left.
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Helen Davey: She's left the employment.
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Helen Davey: thank you for contact.
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Helen Davey: Oh.
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Helen Davey: I've got Stuart Bacon here.
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Helen Davey: Thank you for contacting. Please be aware that the clerk only works part time. How did I get that?
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Helen Davey: There we are. I shall look
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Helen Davey: so. I'll go over that again, Simon.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Simon dot Miles.
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Helen Davey: Bills.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: At geosphere.com, that's GEOX, PHER e.
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Helen Davey: Here, dot.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mv.
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Mark Holder: Same time you are.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Of the example that you've seen that they are already exporting, and he will take it from there. You need to
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Helen Davey: And I'm very sorry. But did you say Suffolk coastal our export.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, I'm I'm going back on memory now, whichever council you're a part of.
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Helen Davey: Sub accounts. So
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Helen Davey: coastal Council? Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Helen, if you want to share your screen, we can search for one of them now and then. You'll have the URL ready to send him.
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Helen Davey: right
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Helen Davey: so.
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Helen Davey: Oh, I'm not sharing that, am I? Oh, silly bugger!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yet.
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Helen Davey: Great!
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Helen Davey: Oh, dear! And dear.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whilst you're looking for the little green button, I'll just say hello to Mark Holder.
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Helen Davey: Yeah, I've got the green button that's just.
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Roger Simonite: This is the mark. I introduced the the Chedsey boy.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good. So his Internet has been fixed.
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Mark Holder: Yeah, we came home. We came home, and it was it all gone down. Everything had gone wrong. So it's all fixed.
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Mark Holder: 2 bits of sticky plaster and some duct tape, and we're back up and running again.
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Roger Simonite: Huh!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So Helen just.
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Mark Holder: That's.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Open up a new.
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Mark Holder: Tab up there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, Helen.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: just open a new one. Go up to the plus sign at the top.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And now type in your the local Parish Council.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: which was yes, it wasn't Suffolk County Council before, was it? It was something else.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I thought there was a coastal somewhere in your address.
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Helen Davey: And 36.
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Helen Davey: Stuff it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. So if you go on.
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Helen Davey: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't see the coastal one there yet.
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Helen Davey: No.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Can you scroll further down the screen? Here we go.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Keep looking.
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Helen Davey: Oh, does this? Does Suffolk still exist?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: We'll click on the Arrow, and let's see what the answer is.
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Helen Davey: Yes.
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Helen Davey: to form a new District Council, Suffolk Coastal. I I get way.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now it's now it's East Suffolk district. Okay?
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Helen Davey: Yes.
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Helen Davey: East Suffolk district.
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Helen Davey: which is.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I'm just going to do that.
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Helen Davey: Now this is my local
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Helen Davey: right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Any one of those will do as well.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and that will show you what your Council is already publishing as open data.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and that's where we found the stuff for you before.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you open up your a fresh tab in the browser and go to data.gov.uk
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: slash search.
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Helen Davey: GATA.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Dot gov GOV.
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Helen Davey: Dot GOV.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Dot uk.
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Helen Davey: Dot UK.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Slash, search.
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Helen Davey: Slash SEAR. H. Oh, I can spell search.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So there, there we go, you see. So then we you typed in a a filter where your publisher was. In your case. Now East Suffolk? Is it East Suffolk district?
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Helen Davey: Yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So go into the publisher Arrow. Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Type in East Suffolk, or look for East Suffolk, whichever you want to do. Yeah.
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Helen Davey: Oh, crap! You! Have you seen.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you just type in Ea, it'll find it for you. Go up to the white box. There you go.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: EAEA, EA.
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Helen Davey: Oh!
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Parish Clerk: It's not like yo.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, so click on these.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go down to the blue bit and tuck on the the blue bit.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go now, just oh, oh, no! Well, yes, I would just if I were you. I just click on, apply filter the green box underneath.
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Helen Davey: Oh!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's see what they've got.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: that's all we've got. Whoa! That's a bit miserable.
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Helen Davey: Oops!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it doesn't matter which one you go. I would click on the
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: the Suffolk coastal local plan. Just click on that. Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and go up to the the URL box above it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Copy that
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: go up, up, up, bit more
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: bit down from there. That 1! 0, that one! Yes, highlight that
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: the the bit that starts date. Yes.
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Mark Holder: 10.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Copy it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then put that in the email to Simon.
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Helen Davey: I'll write.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go, you go over to your email. Now, which is your left hand box by the look of it, left hand tab.
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Helen Davey: Left left hand.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Come up!
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Helen Davey: I see you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Top line of the browser. Go to the left, tab.
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Helen Davey: Oh, okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. Yeah. So just compose the note to Simon.
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Helen Davey: Pose.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Simon dot Miles.
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Helen Davey: IMON.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: He's the 1st one. Look
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: at.
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Helen Davey: Don't come in cabbage or something.
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Helen Davey: Yeah, but I'll put it right in a minute. Should I?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if you just go into the text, the empty text box and do a copy.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, at geosphere at sign.
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Helen Davey: G.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: GEOX
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: x
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: PHER EA 3
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: dot com.
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Helen Davey: Subject.
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Helen Davey: should I post the subject, or help as a.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's called. The subject is called Council Data.
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Helen Davey: So if I put in council data.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, just put in to cancel data. Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you go into the text box, yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: good control
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: control V or a paste, whichever you want to do it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. So in due course you can say, dear Simon, here is an example of
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: open mat data put out by Suffolk Council.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Could you please see if you can help us get, and then the list of things that you want waste bins, dog bins, whatever it was you wanted.
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Helen Davey: Thank you very much again.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Back up to the address. It's simon.miles@geosphere.com. You need the.com at the end.
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Helen Davey: I thought why, that was looking a bit
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Helen Davey: dot.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And going back to
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: R. 2.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And your question about is there help and ways to do things? Have you found the knowledge base in parish online, Roger.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: we saw Archie with us.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: yeah.
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Helen Davey: Hey? Nine's here!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Roger, you're muted.
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Parish Clerk: Which.
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Roger Robinson: I I beg your pardon. Yes, I I've I've written that down now in my little bit of paper that magical.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so.
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Roger Robinson: And I shall. I shall try and see if I can work my way through that, and.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. But if you look at the top right hand corner of your parish online screen.
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Roger Robinson: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a cogwheel.
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Roger Robinson: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on the cogwheel, you get a mini menu, and the second item is help and support. If you go in there, it takes you to the knowledge base
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the knowledge base is a whole bunch of articles on most of the topics to do with running parish online and the format for each is a video showing you how to do it. And then a set of step-by-step instructions which actually take you through each individual step you have to take to complete it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's actually pretty comprehensive, pretty good.
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Roger Robinson: Excellent, so we'll
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Roger Robinson: help and support. And then you said, there's something there between that and knowledge base.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, there's a you get a search box, and you can just type what you're looking for in the search box. So Stuart's about to show you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you're looking at the screen, Roger.
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Roger Robinson: Yeah, yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart will show us the. There's the cogway in the top right hand corner. Click on help and support.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then you get 2 choices here.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can either type what you're looking for straight into the search box, or you can go up the top.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a box called Knowledge base which gives you all these subjects. They talk about.
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Roger Robinson: Okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you can go. They also have a search box there, which is just an easy, but if you type in, for instance, what we've just been talking about is council data. So if Stuart types in council data, yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you probably need to respell council to it
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: in the way that 90% of the rest of the world uses it.
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Parish Clerk: There we go!
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Mark Holder: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this is where you know. So in this case this is where he's showing us what to do.
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Roger Robinson: Right, and that was what brought up.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, exactly. Yes.
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Roger Robinson: Yeah. Good. Okay, no, no, I'm learning. I'm learning.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right.
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Roger Robinson: Thank you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you ready with? Question? 2 yet?
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Roger Robinson: No, no, no, I'm just gonna listen now.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's a very poor approach. If we all did that we wouldn't get very far. So, Roger Simonite, we're ready to come back to you now.
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Parish Clerk: Beautiful.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you've got this wonderful habit of speaking on mute doesn't get you very far.
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Mark Holder: Mute Roger.
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Mark Holder: Hi! There we go!
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Roger Simonite: I realised that, but.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I shouldn't get to the.
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Roger Simonite: The bloody thing to actually unmute it. It was hiding.
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Roger Simonite: The the question that I have is related to
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Roger Simonite: all the fields that that
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Roger Simonite: run down the side as to
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Roger Simonite: identifying which ones
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Roger Simonite: other people can see, and equally, if
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Roger Simonite: the parish creates a field.
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Roger Simonite: an individual field for themselves. But they want to share it.
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Roger Simonite: Can they share it? Is it? Is it possible.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So the system comes with ready-made
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: fields or layers, which are
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: shared with everybody, and they call either collaborative layers or or fields, or
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: in a couple of cases they're called national fields. So national things are things like cemeteries and allotments.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But if you go into the assets and maintenance layers.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: They very carefully say the word collaborative on those ones which are shared with everybody else. Yeah. And.
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Roger Simonite: And I've I've seen that. And you, you know, I found, like, for instance, the bins I found. Other parishes have populated it, and I can see their grip bins the same as I can now see mine. But but if I had something that I wanted to share with the the District Council, or something like that. Is it is it possible that you can turn it into being able to be seen by others or not?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So there are 2 parts to that question. So if you're talking about exchanging data with your County Council or your district council, then
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Parish online is what's called a geographic information system for Gis
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and all the counties and districts, with the exception of the west part of Somerset and Taunton, West or Taunton and Somerset West have got geographical information systems.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and therefore they're compatible. And so anything that you've got
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: in your version of parish online can be exchanged with your county or district council.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: but you just need to ask geosphere to help you actually set it up.
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Roger Simonite: Okay. So so it's more like, the data has to be exported, such that they can then.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it's it's a bit cleverer than that. They can set it up so it'll be automatically done from here on, in for you on that particular there, or that particular piece of data?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The other part of your question was, can you create a field which other people can see? And the answer is, No, it's not within our power. But
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: every Friday afternoon we feel the absolute obligation to come up with a question for Chris Muse that's going to upset his weekend. Asking that question would be a really good way of doing that. Sorry.
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Parish Clerk: Well, but surely you could have a public map if he wants to share layers with others.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very good point. Are you familiar.
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Mark Holder: It's probably not.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Infrastructure.
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Roger Simonite: No.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, why don't we pass you to Richard to fill that enormous gap in your knowledge?
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Parish Clerk: I knew I knew I'd get lumbered somewhere alongside afternoon. Chris, I'm waiting for your questions.
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chris edwards: Really.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Clearly you clearly you've never been in the military
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: so.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: but the 1st thing they teach you is never, ever volunteer for anything.
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Roger Simonite: No, we have been in the military, so so. I know exactly what you mean.
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Parish Clerk: To create, to create one is here in the under Admin public maps.
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Mark Holder: Oh, yeah.
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Parish Clerk: And you can. You can create
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Parish Clerk: or you can bin
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Parish Clerk: this will then lead you through.
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Parish Clerk: If I, if I go to the one that that Graham always uses for other things, which is the one about entry point. When I can find the bleeding thing.
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Parish Clerk: I wish I put my right glasses on. Now
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Parish Clerk: somebody will find it.
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Parish Clerk: This is the one
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Parish Clerk: because it's already here. It's taking me straight to being able to to look at it.
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Parish Clerk: So this ain't gonna work for me, is it?
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Parish Clerk: Can you see the can you see the map of the hallowed, the hallowed parish of Stagurzi.
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chris edwards: Lips.
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Parish Clerk: In here.
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Parish Clerk: and then here all layers.
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Parish Clerk: and some of them you can.
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Roger Simonite: Just me.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's worth pointing out. Richard Roger. Sorry that
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: this is how anybody using the web browser can see and act on parish online. So this public map is visible to all.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so what Richard is doing at the moment is what any user could do. Coming to your village website.
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Parish Clerk: So there's all the footpaths for our
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Parish Clerk: or public rights away in power.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah.
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Parish Clerk: Which you have under the Somerset County layers. If you.
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Roger Simonite: Everything.
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Parish Clerk: If you're in Somerset, which I believe you are.
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Roger Simonite: Believe you are. Yep.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Somebody's got an echo which is really upsetting the sound.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Who's just arrived, Chris? Is it your issue.
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Parish Clerk: The the blue area that now has appeared.
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Roger Simonite: There's a feature.
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Parish Clerk: I've turned on the RAM. So.
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Parish Clerk: layer.
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Mark Holder: Okay. Okay.
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Roger Simonite: Okay, so.
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Parish Clerk: Any user.
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Roger Simonite: Public in public maps, and so anybody can see that.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
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Parish Clerk: Yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you created it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If if Richard goes back, he'll show you that the system creates an address, a URL,
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: which you can then put into your village website.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: going to be published somewhere with.
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Roger Simonite: Anyway.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Either you. You can just send people the URL.
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Roger Simonite: The URL.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or you can have it added to your website, and it's visible to everybody. Then.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So 2 choices under the 1st one.
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Roger Simonite: 1, st one.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Richard's on at the moment.
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Roger Simonite: Of the movement.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You go to URL.
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Roger Simonite: You already.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can send to anybody.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the next line underneath the embed code line.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Send that to the web manager of your bridge website and he'll put that straight in, and then it'll come as part of the bridge website.
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Roger Simonite: Okay. Okay.
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Parish Clerk: In the chat in the chat, Roger, you'll find the URL just hit it.
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Roger Simonite: So this is it.
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Parish Clerk: And that will take you to that.
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Parish Clerk: That level.
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Roger Simonite: Level.
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Roger Simonite: Okay, I've just hit it.
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Roger Simonite: Let's see, here
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Roger Simonite: seem seem to be. Things are a little bit sort of
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Roger Simonite: nothing's working at the moment. I can't enlarge the
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Roger Simonite: page on the zoom, and I can't do anything to the
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Roger Simonite: parish online now. So we've gone. We've locked up again.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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Parish Clerk: When your Internet's better, when we've all gone.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's not an Internet issue, because we can see and hear you quite clearly.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah, no, I I don't live in Chedsea. My Internet's alright so. But it.
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Mark Holder: Wish that she don't.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just say hello to Malcolm, who's popped in. It's very nice to see you, Malcolm. Good to see you there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and there's a question from Mark in the chat.
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Roger Simonite: Chat.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the answer to your question is.
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Roger Simonite: Students.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not easily.
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Roger Simonite: Easily.
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Roger Simonite: the the.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The reason being.
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Roger Simonite: The reason being.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The gullies is a 3rd party layer supplied by a 3rd party
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: organization. In this case highways and department.
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Roger Simonite: Pardon me.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so you're not allowed to do anything with their data.
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Roger Simonite: Their data.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: What you can do is try copying it to your own layer.
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Roger Simonite: Go over there.
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Mark Holder: Could I copy
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Mark Holder: events? Is my own feeling.
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Mark Holder: so that I could maintain.
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Mark Holder: did a great demonstration to me, because we've got an issue in with drains and gullies and flooding and whatnot. So this this mapping tool is, gonna be excellent for managing that
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Mark Holder: and and to save me a huge amount of time trying to build my own mapping capability, to be able to then obviously check against Somerset or highways that we've got. We've captured every drain because some of them are so blocked up. You don't even know they're there because they're just covered in mud and rubbish.
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Mark Holder: So what we've then done is done our own inspection. So I want to then maintain a kind of a mirror
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Mark Holder: data set which I can then attach photographs like build
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Mark Holder: hotspots around where we get flooding issues, we can run our own inspection. So what you're saying is, I could copy that data into my own layer or something. Is that right?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm just going into here to check that
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the answer to your question at the moment is, No, so within parish online, you do have the ability to copy data from one layer to another, providing that the.
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Mark Holder: Thank you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Originating there
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: as being set up so that you can do that.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And in the case of Gully's it is not
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: but what you could do is work with
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: John, who's online at the moment and his request, he's got an open line to the Gis.
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Mark Holder: Department.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: In Somerset Council.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they may very well agree to export the data in such a way that you can copy it.
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Mark Holder: That that would be. That would be excellent, John, if you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
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Mark Holder: I mean the other the other way. Of course, the manual way would be because before I even knew about parish online.
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Mark Holder: I went and logged each drain. And I got a what 3 words on it I was, gonna build that in Google Maps. I was gonna build a spreadsheet. But bang it into a Gis tool myself.
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Mark Holder: I'm assuming what I could do whilst we were waiting for.
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Mark Holder: and maybe a response. Highways or the Council
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Mark Holder: is, I could
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Mark Holder: overlay on my own Chedsey map
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Mark Holder: on parish online my own drain locations. I could build my own
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Mark Holder: version of it. Couldn't I? I suppose.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. Yeah.
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Mark Holder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is actually, which is what one would. That's a bit more long winded, obviously. But it does mean I've got a a concise record then, and I can. I can. Then obviously, I mean, the ideal thing would be to to get the Geo. Coordinates of all of the the gullies and drains in in the parish
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Mark Holder: and copy it over. So is that John Roberts, who's the who's.
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John Roberts: Yeah.
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John Roberts: That's me.
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Mark Holder: It would be great if you could ask that question.
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John Roberts: You're just talking about gullies at the moment.
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John Roberts: Could they export the data to you?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, no.
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Mark Holder: What you want, what you want.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The Gi
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: are meant to do. John is export the data in such a way as it. You can use.
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Mark Holder: Okay, correct.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Extract tool.
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Mark Holder: Hello!
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John Roberts: Yeah.
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John Roberts: is it?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Moment. You can't use due to data extract on those gullies, but I think there is the option of exporting it in such a way that you can.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: but it's just that the Gis department hasn't done that yet.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's probably going to involve them talking with one of the engineers at geosphere, because I don't. I don't personally know what the settings are, but I just think it can be done.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: because if you go, for instance, to the addresses, you can certainly export all the address data.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
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John Roberts: Just looking at it. Sorry.
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Mark Holder: Yep.
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Parish Clerk: The gun is, you can get a table view so you can get your your excel out of it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
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Parish Clerk: Search for the for the parish.
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Parish Clerk: But no, you can't just copy it into another layer.
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John Roberts: No, no, you say the table view, but then you're gonna have to sort through to parish.
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Mark Holder: Oh!
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John Roberts: Horde, whichever.
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Mark Holder: Can if I create. Now, getting this is the 1st time actually logged on since I registered yesterday for the for the tool. So
723
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Mark Holder: other than Rogers.
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Mark Holder: Most excellent Demo! I'm 1st time I'll get my hands on it. Can I create if I, if I go in and create my my Chatsea layer?
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Mark Holder: Can I upload that? Can I upload a spreadsheet with coordinates into, or do I have to manually key them in.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You you.
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Mark Holder: Hi.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: At the moment in parish online. There is not the feature that permits us to import data.
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Mark Holder: Right? Okay, that's fine.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Everybody.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: particularly Andrew, would be absolutely enchanted if you sent him.
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Andrew Clegg: It'd be wonderful to use.
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Mark Holder: Needs to be able to.
734
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Mark Holder: I can see the smiles that question's been asked before. Then.
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John Roberts: Yeah, if you create your own layer, say for the gullies you're gonna have to put each gully in.
736
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John Roberts: But
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John Roberts: as you would any other layer.
738
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Mark Holder: Yeah, okay.
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John Roberts: So.
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John Roberts: And that depends how many gullies you've got.
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Mark Holder: 62.
742
00:53:41.060 --> 00:53:41.780
Graham Stoddart-Stones: The issue of.
743
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Parish Clerk: He hasn't got as many as as we think he should have.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No.
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Mark Holder: We're we're not a very big parish. We're not like, you know. We have. We've only got one, Poopy.
747
00:53:52.270 --> 00:53:55.389
Parish Clerk: No, no, the story's got loads of pillies.
748
00:53:57.030 --> 00:53:59.300
Mark Holder: Oh, Roger's got loads of poop in.
749
00:54:01.630 --> 00:54:13.419
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you you can catch the people at geosphere on a good day, they've obviously got all the data sitting at their end. They can export it into your parish. Just your data for you.
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Mark Holder: Yeah.
751
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're feeling
752
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: inclined. So it's worth making the request.
753
00:54:19.050 --> 00:54:23.509
Mark Holder: Yeah, so so do I make. Do I make that request, or do.
754
00:54:23.510 --> 00:54:24.950
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh yes, yes.
755
00:54:24.950 --> 00:54:28.300
Mark Holder: So who would I talk to to make that
756
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:29.580
Mark Holder: sweet talking with.
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00:54:29.580 --> 00:54:34.540
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just just send an email to support@geosphere.com.
758
00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:37.559
Graham Stoddart-Stones: which has the effect of creating a ticket.
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00:54:37.700 --> 00:54:40.240
Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they're pretty good at answering the tickets.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bye.
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Mark Holder: So can you put that in the in the chat that.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, boy!
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Mark Holder: Be brilliant. Thank you.
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00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:57.310
Mark Holder: Thank you. Okay. So if I if I write them a nice mail
765
00:54:58.040 --> 00:55:01.760
Mark Holder: and sort of say I'm a poor old counselor in Cheddjoy, you know.
766
00:55:02.070 --> 00:55:02.980
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly.
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Mark Holder: Life's life's hard in shedzoy.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's it's worth mentioning. Mark that. Because you're in Somerset. All the gully is given to you, because not not every council does that.
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Mark Holder: It does. Yeah, okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. I'm honour bound now to say good afternoon to Chris. How nice to have you sit with us and feel free to head with your very absorbing questions.
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chris edwards: Okay.
772
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chris edwards: so may I share my screen with you?
773
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chris edwards: Where is it?
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chris edwards: There we are. Now
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chris edwards: shield your eyes from what you're looking at at the moment.
776
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chris edwards: because I use the annotation tool a huge amount.
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chris edwards: But what I've come across in the last month
778
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chris edwards: is that whenever I put in a new annotation.
779
00:55:58.930 --> 00:56:01.569
chris edwards: it automatically is duplicated.
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chris edwards: So I have to spend ages to try and
781
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chris edwards: delete the duplications. This one is an example, public right of way.
782
00:56:12.010 --> 00:56:16.959
chris edwards: I put it in once, and hey, presto! It appears twice.
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00:56:17.600 --> 00:56:20.589
chris edwards: Same down here, flooding potential.
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chris edwards: So I wrote a ticket to
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chris edwards: parish online.
786
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chris edwards: Got a very quick reply, saying.
787
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chris edwards: they acknowledge the duplications, but they haven't got a fix for it yet.
788
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chris edwards: But my question is, has anybody on our chat group
789
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chris edwards: had this had the same experience
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chris edwards: of these duplications.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: We're all good citizens, and so we don't use annotate for any other purposes.
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chris edwards: Okay.
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chris edwards: Alright. Then I shall obviously keep the pressure on parish online to them to come up with a fix for this. Then.
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Stuart Bacon: I've never experienced it before.
795
00:57:05.690 --> 00:57:07.249
Stuart Bacon: Just done a test. Now.
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chris edwards: Yes.
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Stuart Bacon: And I've got the same issue.
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Mark Holder: Cool, too.
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chris edwards: Oh, thank you for that, Stuart.
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chris edwards: When I when I go back to parish online.
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Mark Holder: This is apple.
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00:57:19.310 --> 00:57:20.890
chris edwards: Across the board.
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chris edwards: Yeah, thank you for that.
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00:57:25.010 --> 00:57:29.019
chris edwards: Right, let's finish with annotations. I'll get rid of that.
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00:57:30.821 --> 00:57:33.540
chris edwards: Now, the so the next question is to do with
806
00:57:33.560 --> 00:57:36.370
chris edwards: not not necessarily to do with parish online.
807
00:57:37.787 --> 00:57:44.940
chris edwards: What I want to do is that in in this area of my parish. We've got 4 new housing estates.
808
00:57:45.185 --> 00:57:45.430
Mark Holder: Right.
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00:57:45.430 --> 00:57:48.269
chris edwards: About 350 new homes.
810
00:57:49.930 --> 00:57:58.340
chris edwards: the the census data from 2,021 is now well out of date.
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chris edwards: and what I'd like to do is try and drill down into Somerset Council
812
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:09.920
chris edwards: to find out what the what the new number is in terms of
813
00:58:10.766 --> 00:58:13.310
chris edwards: parishioners, and also of
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chris edwards: residences in my parish.
815
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chris edwards: Now, what I have
816
00:58:18.530 --> 00:58:20.857
chris edwards: got I'll have to
817
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chris edwards: Just bear with me a second.
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chris edwards: This is going to be a bit long winded.
819
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chris edwards: If I show you
820
00:58:36.060 --> 00:58:38.860
chris edwards: the information I've got on my parish.
821
00:58:39.080 --> 00:58:40.629
chris edwards: I'm searching for it.
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chris edwards: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's certainly an attachment in the email you sent to me, Chris.
824
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chris edwards: Yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's the way of finding it.
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chris edwards: I
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chris edwards: blast.
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chris edwards: I had it here a moment ago.
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chris edwards: It showed
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chris edwards: the number of properties in our parish.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's it's it was there on the right hand column.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go down a bit or up a bit, whichever way you were heading.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Isn't that it there middle middle row, middle. Oh, you jumped it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: that one! It will stop.
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chris edwards: No.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Apc. 2021. I think that's it.
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chris edwards: Yeah, that's right. I'm I'm looking for it right now. Now it's
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chris edwards: dumb things gone.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No? Well, we I can see it on your screen. So.
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chris edwards: Really.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: so scroll down a little bit
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: gently.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: maybe you need to scroll. There it is, so it's in the bottom right hand corner. At the moment.
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chris edwards: No, it's not on my, it's not on my screen.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Will you move your arrow one bit further? Right, Chris, or are you limited by something? Is that your most right-hand side.
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chris edwards: Hang on! Let me get rid of.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, bet!
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chris edwards: There we are!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
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chris edwards: So you can see here 2,021, the census.
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chris edwards: my parish
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chris edwards: population of 1,200 number of households, 560.
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chris edwards: Well, since that date.
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chris edwards: obviously the number of households has got. This is shot up.
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chris edwards: But I what I'm trying to do is get hold of the information from my County Council.
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chris edwards: Would you be able to give me any indication of who which department I would approach
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chris edwards: to update my
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chris edwards: data.
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chris edwards: any any
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chris edwards: suggestions
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chris edwards: rather than wait for the next census, which is just gonna be years away.
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chris edwards: How do I get rid of the screen right now?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I would go along the bottom and just select whatever tool you want to go back to. You want to go back to your browser, or you want to go back to non sharing?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is there a department of population or something like that?
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Stuart Bacon: Effectively what you would need, Chris. Your
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Stuart Bacon: oh.
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Stuart Bacon: to the Electoral Services Department.
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chris edwards: So I can't hear you, Stuart.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know you disappeared again.
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Stuart Bacon: You're cool.
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Parish Clerk: About the Electoral Service Department.
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chris edwards: Oh, right!
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Stuart Bacon: Your clerk will need to speak to electoral services at your district council, where they will be able to sort of send a copy of
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01:01:47.436 --> 01:01:50.140
Stuart Bacon: the electoral role for
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Stuart Bacon: your sort of parish as a
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Stuart Bacon: as a whole, and they will also be able to tell you sort of the the number of properties that exist within your parish.
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chris edwards: Oh, right? Okay. Well, thanks for that, Stuart.
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chris edwards: Yeah.
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Parish Clerk: The only. The only problem with that is is that not not everybody appears on the electoral roll. Of course.
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Parish Clerk: so it will be. It will probably be as rough. It will be a roughest guide as as your census material from 21.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
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chris edwards: Oh, I see!
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Stuart Bacon: The benefit that going through them is at least they know who, even though they won't be included on the electoral roll, they will have a total number of properties in the
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Stuart Bacon: parish
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Stuart Bacon: that you can sort of.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Extrapolate from.
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Stuart Bacon: Extract the data from, because they'll know what properties that aren't paying council tax, and whatever as well. So.
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chris edwards: Oh, I see!
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Stuart Bacon: On the electric roll and doing.
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chris edwards: Yup. Yup, okay, that's fine. Thank you very much for that.
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chris edwards: Before I
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chris edwards: stop sharing.
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chris edwards: I suppose.
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chris edwards: Here, here are my gullies.
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chris edwards: I know I I was late joining the meeting, but did
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chris edwards: 1 1 of the
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chris edwards: people asking about gullies? Has he seen this.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh yes!
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chris edwards: Oh, yeah, that's fine. That's fine.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thanks, Chris. Now we were interested in how you'd export that data into your own layer, so you can start adding status and other
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01:03:26.510 --> 01:03:28.389
Graham Stoddart-Stones: points about each gully.
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chris edwards: Lovely.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And we'll.
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chris edwards: Graham, can I squeeze in 1? 1 more question
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chris edwards: you record the sessions and you can get them played back, which I thought was on Youtube.
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chris edwards: But am I right in thinking that if you click on our wiki
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chris edwards: you can go go through git book. Is that correct?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, but you should be able to just go into it directly. You don't need to go into get book, but it is published on get book, if that's what you're asking.
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chris edwards: Well, I I clicked on your link.
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chris edwards: and it wanted me to set up an account with Gate.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're not the only person that's complained. Something went wrong in that. Let me put the address in the the chat for you, Chris.
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chris edwards: Okay, fine. Thank you very much.
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John Roberts: In regards to the
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John Roberts: Somerset layers. The email to Adam Reimer has now been sent.
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John Roberts: I'll let you know when I get if if and when I get an answer.
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John Roberts: oh, Christ!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well done!
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Roger Simonite: Just a question, Graham, in these gullies. Not that they seem to bother me as much as other people, because we're quite high up here. But
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Roger Simonite: is, is there any progression in the sense of?
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Roger Simonite: And we've got? We've got parishioners who clearly are concerned. And and they're having to create their own status is, is there any way in which
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Roger Simonite: it they can be approached? Such that
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Roger Simonite: we could share the the information, ie. The people, on the ground that are closest to it could maybe update it, you know, given extra functionality, such that they they could see. I note on the grip bins, for instance. You, which is collaborative one where you can effectively put it's it's 20% full. It's 60% full.
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Roger Simonite: And and arguably, I would hope. Then the the District Council would then look at that, and and that could be sufficient for them to go and fill them up.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think that was certainly the intent of geosphere when they put that facility in there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But the the number of
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01:05:53.370 --> 01:06:02.729
Graham Stoddart-Stones: councils that have agreed to have their data updated from parish online, I think, is countable on the fingers of one hand. I think.
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Roger Simonite: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's something we'd love to promote because it makes so much more sense. The other obvious. One is footpaths, because the locals know where the footpaths vary from what the
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01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:24.499
Graham Stoddart-Stones: County Council thinks they are. But we've got an example in Long Sutton of a foot bath going straight across what is now a lake, and clearly it doesn't go across the lake any longer, so
932
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: we'd like to be able to get them to update their maps from ours.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But that that's that's the ideal that we're sort of trying to head towards. But it's it has happened but rarely.
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Roger Simonite: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm trying to understand.
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Roger Simonite: Trying to engage with the the District Council, as I refer to them, is is quite difficult they they are quite reluctant, a lot of them, to actually talk to you. But you know I the whole scenario with the bins.
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Roger Simonite: They they came back with a spreadsheet, saying, These are the bins. And these are the what 3 words. So they weren't using parish online or anything like it. And I just quite surprised as to whether there's an education going on here is the same sort of education going on with the the district councils.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lord, no, that would be common sense, that'd be stupid.
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Andrew Clegg: We? We've had the what 3 words thing as well from from from Somerset. They told us that we got 24 bins, and we'd only got 22. We don't, we don't. We don't. We've got 2 missing dog poo bins.
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah.
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Roger Simonite: And we had the same where we ended up with one less than than they'd stated. But they were, you know. Somebody had gone to the trouble.
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
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01:07:49.690 --> 01:08:03.279
Roger Simonite: Going around and doing quite a lot of detailed work to identify them. But it just seems to be that they're still using steam rather than going up with the data technology. Really.
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Parish Clerk: You want to be in West Somerset.
944
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Andrew Clegg: Part of the call.
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John Roberts: apart apart from West Somerset, which is still using a slate and a hammer.
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Parish Clerk: No, it's a fag, it's a fag packet and a pencil.
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John Roberts: You'll find that majority of these councils are very reluctant to change
948
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:29.269
John Roberts: their attitude. Is this is the way we've always done it.
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John Roberts: I've been a counselor now for 19 years, and it's never been any different.
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Roger Simonite: Let's encourage.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's also it's very, very variable, Roger. So that
952
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: When I 1st arrived
953
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: on the digital mapping scene, which was about 6 years ago I was reading a
954
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: report from South Somerset District Council, who were very keen to update themselves, and that somebody had written a brilliant report that basically stated in no uncertain terms. The It department here is not fit for purpose.
955
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they basically decided to scrap everything that they had start again where they stated that the purpose of the it department is to serve
956
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: the Council and the Council's clients, which, of course, are parishes amongst other things.
957
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they rewrote it so that it did do that. And South Somerset was notable for choosing their
958
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Gis to be ex map, which is the big brother of parish online. And you can certainly see the difference that
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: there are 90 layers of data exported by South Somerset
960
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: compared to the 0 supplied by West Somerset.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then 3 or 4 from so Sedgemore, or Mendip, or other ones along the way. So it's very much much depending upon the culture that is being
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: engendered within the local council, and that's down to how enlightened the boss is. I think.
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Roger Simonite: Well, it's somebody.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Last time I said it had a vision for going forward which I thought was pretty good. I think it's bold to say that this is not fit for purpose, and they actually said that in the formal official report which I thought was marvelous.
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Roger Simonite: Well, that's encouraging that. At least I'm in South Somerset, so maybe I can do some more work, and we've started to engage with a few people now that
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Roger Simonite: previously they've just kept us at arm's length. And now they're realizing that with devolution that actually they might want to talk to us a bit more in the case of us doing service level agreements, and just that. So I hope that as we go forward and it's good to to listen to you all, to see the different views as to within the different districts, because.
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Roger Simonite: it, it is it is interesting to understand how we're going to go forward. Really.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So many last students.
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John Roberts: Adam Adam Reimer. Who's the guy we're talking to?
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John Roberts: We're fortunate in respect. He is ex South Somerset
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John Roberts: right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's mended, isn't it?
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Malcolm Daniels: Manager. Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Amended.
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John Roberts: Sorry one. His his boss is Ex.
977
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John Roberts: who's on maternity leave, is ex south. Somerset.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Addison.
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John Roberts: Sorry.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
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John Roberts: Yeah, Alison. Adam is mended. He's got 2 colleagues, which
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John Roberts: one of which is mended. I'm not sure where the other one comes from
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John Roberts: there.
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John Roberts: Very good in talking to us. They're very good in listening, and they have a genuine desire to sort things out.
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John Roberts: It's when it leaves them. It's the problems. Then start because they've got to get the data from the people who are holding it.
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John Roberts: And that's not always forthcoming.
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John Roberts: Do you think that.
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Roger Simonite: Knowledge, is power.
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John Roberts: Yes, basically. Yes.
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John Roberts: but also at the present time you've got to remember that
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John Roberts: the whole, the whole of the county structure is going through consultancy on redundancy.
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John Roberts: Yeah.
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John Roberts: So people are reluctant to
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John Roberts: make waves. They're reluctant to make decisions.
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John Roberts: And, to be frank, there are a number of them who don't even know if they're going to have a job at the end of October.
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Roger Simonite: Hmm, hmm.
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John Roberts: So at the moment. Now isn't a good time to
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John Roberts: to to try and get information from people.
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John Roberts: But yeah, we have got people within Somerset who are willing to help want to help.
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John Roberts: They're not all charred with the same brush.
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Roger Simonite: Have you come across a chap called Julian Grant?
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John Roberts: Only by
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John Roberts: people talking about him. I've never met him.
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Roger Simonite: No? Well, I was fortunate enough. He came to speak to me.
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Roger Simonite: which it wasn't me prompting it. He wanted to talk to me. He's taken over from
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Roger Simonite: Steve Fox, who was the open space manager prior. But he's retired, and and it was. It was very encouraging in terms of him wanting to work with us and the people who now work for him and trying to get them more engaged, so there might be opportunity in the future.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is he very young, Roger?
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Roger Simonite: I wouldn't have said that young. He's probably he's probably I don't know mid forties or something like that, but he's he's from Taunton Dean. He's had this role of of one form or another for the past year and a half.
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Roger Simonite: and he's sort of based around Taunton area. But this this now he covers the the Yeovil district as well. So likes of the martok, and people like that must all be dealing with the same person. Really, now.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I need to correct you. 40 is very young.
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Roger Simonite: Okay. Then he was very young.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright, gentlemen!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And we are all gentlemen now. No ladies present. Are there any other questions that people would like asked or answered?
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John Roberts: No, I'm I'm gonna say goodbye and wish you all a happy weekend hopefully. See you next week.
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John Roberts: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thanks you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: hey? Care! Oh, Roger Robinson has really got a star.
1018
01:14:40.180 --> 01:14:40.580
Andrew Clegg: Like.
1019
01:14:40.580 --> 01:14:41.120
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Take care!
1020
01:14:41.120 --> 01:14:43.759
Parish Clerk: Share his share his screen, though.
1021
01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:48.000
Roger Robinson: Eliminating.
1022
01:14:49.580 --> 01:14:51.630
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Take care. Bye, bye. Thank you.
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01:14:51.630 --> 01:14:53.120
Roger Simonite: Bye, bye.