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WEBVTT 1 00:01:46.930 --> 00:01:48.350 Stuart Bacon: Good afternoon. 2 00:01:49.370 --> 00:01:51.290 Roger Simonite: Good afternoon. How are you? 3 00:01:56.360 --> 00:01:57.420 Roger Simonite: Can you hear me? 4 00:01:57.990 --> 00:01:59.819 Stuart Bacon: I can. Yes. Can you hear me? 5 00:02:00.020 --> 00:02:04.181 Roger Simonite: No. Okay. Well, I I assumed you were talking to me. 6 00:02:09.688 --> 00:02:14.850 Stuart Bacon: Sorry. I was just changing my audio settings. I just wanted to make sure you could still hear me from. 7 00:02:14.850 --> 00:02:15.960 Roger Simonite: Oh, I see. 8 00:02:37.370 --> 00:02:43.400 Roger Simonite: Alright! I'm just going to go quiet a minute. I'm just going to try and open Paris online without losing you. So. 9 00:02:43.760 --> 00:02:46.778 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, no, I'm just doing the same, so don't fret. 10 00:03:25.210 --> 00:03:26.080 Stuart Bacon: I am. 11 00:03:26.110 --> 00:03:27.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, how are you? 12 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:32.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're in good shape. 13 00:03:32.740 --> 00:03:33.760 Stuart Bacon: Very well, thank you. 14 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good. Hi, Roger, I won't interrupt your lunch. 15 00:03:40.300 --> 00:03:41.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh. 16 00:03:43.090 --> 00:03:49.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: well, touch of winter today. Lots of sunshine, lots of blue sky, but actually quite chilly. 17 00:03:51.260 --> 00:03:53.467 Stuart Bacon: Yeah. And it's 18 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:57.940 Stuart Bacon: definitely beginning of of autumn. I think now 19 00:03:59.370 --> 00:04:00.405 Stuart Bacon: it will be 20 00:04:04.190 --> 00:04:08.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You do you have? You're having weird trouble with your microphone again, Stuart, and. 21 00:04:08.630 --> 00:04:09.240 Stuart Bacon: Come on! 22 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You disappear halfway through a sentence. 23 00:04:11.830 --> 00:04:12.720 Stuart Bacon: Oh, I don't know. 24 00:04:12.720 --> 00:04:21.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's almost as if you got a volume control that says, Oh, he's way too loud, so let's turn him down, oops. He's disappeared. Turn it back up again, turn him down, turn up, turn him down! 25 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:23.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very strange. 26 00:04:27.310 --> 00:04:29.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright! Let's see. 27 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:30.450 Stuart Bacon: Thanks. 28 00:04:31.530 --> 00:04:34.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, you disappear halfway through a sentence. 29 00:04:39.330 --> 00:04:46.789 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Actually, your, your video is extremely clear, and we can see every movement. So I don't think it's a bandwidth issue. It sounds like just a microphone issue 30 00:04:48.470 --> 00:04:52.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: or a computer issue with like the sound circuit. In some way. 31 00:04:55.840 --> 00:05:02.490 Roger Simonite: Graham. There's a chap who should be joining us today, Mark, who, having 32 00:05:02.860 --> 00:05:10.439 Roger Simonite: been on your not last week, I missed last week but the week before, and and you're all delving into gullies. 33 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:20.220 Roger Simonite: he! He is a parish councillor in in Chedsea, and he was telling me about all all these issues with flooding. 34 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:30.410 Roger Simonite: and how that they were mapping where all the drains were. And I and I said to him, We did a zoom, and I said, Well, have you seen Parrish online? And he hadn't 35 00:05:30.986 --> 00:05:49.743 Roger Simonite: and and effectively took him straight to to the gullies, and every everything then became very clear, and he said, he's going to save him. An incredible amount of time. But he he looked on. I didn't appreciate the 36 00:05:50.430 --> 00:05:53.770 Roger Simonite: charges, for a parish is 37 00:05:53.840 --> 00:06:05.780 Roger Simonite: governed by the size, so he only has to pay, I think, 60 pounds a year, because it's a very small parish, so he's he's over the moon so hopefully he'll be joining us shortly. 38 00:06:06.340 --> 00:06:07.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Great. 39 00:06:07.860 --> 00:06:10.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you are spreading the word. 40 00:06:10.130 --> 00:06:16.009 Roger Simonite: Yes, and your your meetings are, you know, a great success on by that account. 41 00:06:17.440 --> 00:06:19.130 Parish Clerk: Oh, God! Creep. 42 00:06:24.670 --> 00:06:26.940 Stuart Bacon: Offering him up doesn't get you a discount. 43 00:06:26.940 --> 00:06:33.890 Parish Clerk: No, no, you're still. You're still paying more to my small parish. 44 00:06:36.190 --> 00:06:39.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you still the clerk of your small parish? 45 00:06:39.510 --> 00:06:41.059 Parish Clerk: 1st of November. 46 00:06:41.060 --> 00:06:42.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you irreplaceable? 47 00:06:44.350 --> 00:06:45.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 48 00:06:45.010 --> 00:06:46.260 Parish Clerk: Evidently no. 49 00:06:47.380 --> 00:06:48.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whoa! 50 00:06:48.820 --> 00:06:49.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well. 51 00:06:49.390 --> 00:06:51.100 Parish Clerk: Party supplies have arrived. 52 00:06:53.080 --> 00:06:54.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Afternoon, John. 53 00:06:55.300 --> 00:06:56.410 John Roberts: Good afternoon. All. 54 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:04.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart would like to be talking to us, but he isn't. 55 00:07:05.900 --> 00:07:07.260 Parish Clerk: He was. 56 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.020 Parish Clerk: You obviously didn't hear him. 57 00:07:09.890 --> 00:07:12.400 Parish Clerk: He's probably underwater like the rest of us. 58 00:07:13.150 --> 00:07:13.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you? 59 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:15.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh. 60 00:07:15.650 --> 00:07:26.879 Parish Clerk: God, the parish. The parish was awash the other 2 nights ago, all coming from Nether Stowe downhill, flowing, flowing towards to the big, the big construction site on the on the coast. 61 00:07:27.890 --> 00:07:36.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I thought it was the 2 of you who? No, no, it's Andrew, isn't it adamant that water flows uphill on his panning applications? 62 00:07:37.130 --> 00:07:37.860 John Roberts: He probably 63 00:07:38.380 --> 00:07:39.830 John Roberts: share as well. 64 00:07:40.604 --> 00:07:42.739 Parish Clerk: Yeah, he probably has 65 00:07:43.220 --> 00:07:43.890 Parish Clerk: cool. 66 00:07:45.220 --> 00:07:46.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've got 67 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:51.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: a few people have signed up to join, but haven't got here yet, and 68 00:07:51.980 --> 00:07:58.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Roger was saying that he's hoping for Mark from one of his areas. Speaking of Andrew, good day to him. 69 00:07:58.790 --> 00:07:59.365 Andrew Clegg: Hello! 70 00:08:00.140 --> 00:08:04.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And Chris Edwards will be arriving late. 71 00:08:04.420 --> 00:08:08.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which is a shame because 2 of the best questions I've had come from him. So 72 00:08:09.370 --> 00:08:10.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: have mind. 73 00:08:12.400 --> 00:08:19.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Roger, you hold the the banner high, as being the most likely person with questions to ask today. 74 00:08:20.670 --> 00:08:27.389 Roger Simonite: Yeah. Well, I've always got plenty of questions, but what I don't want to do is dominate. The meeting. 75 00:08:27.880 --> 00:08:28.970 Stuart Bacon: Feel free, to. 76 00:08:29.440 --> 00:08:31.759 Parish Clerk: Yeah, feel free. Yeah. 77 00:08:34.179 --> 00:08:39.530 Parish Clerk: Either that or Andrew will start talking about phosphate. And the fact that all this rain is. 78 00:08:39.539 --> 00:08:45.689 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, I was going to. I was going to. I was going to ask what's happened to the America's Cup. 79 00:08:46.670 --> 00:08:47.330 Parish Clerk: What's it? 80 00:08:47.780 --> 00:08:49.260 Parish Clerk: Oh, the old time! 81 00:08:49.260 --> 00:08:54.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, spoiler, alert, please. I've gone up to race 5, so don't go beyond there. 82 00:08:56.550 --> 00:08:59.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But the Race 5 saw 83 00:08:59.180 --> 00:09:13.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it was fairly light winds, and the New Zealand boat came off its skids and never got back up, at least not enough to catch up with the Brits. So that was their 1st wind. So it was 1, 5, 1, 4 when I last saw it. 84 00:09:14.070 --> 00:09:19.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But I do not wish to be advised what happens next, because otherwise it takes all the fun away from watching them. 85 00:09:22.030 --> 00:09:24.670 Parish Clerk: 7 and 8 were on now. 86 00:09:25.940 --> 00:09:26.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 87 00:09:29.450 --> 00:09:31.299 John Roberts: How many is there altogether, then. 88 00:09:31.790 --> 00:09:33.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's the 1st 7. 89 00:09:33.920 --> 00:09:35.689 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right? Okay, 7. Wins. 90 00:09:38.460 --> 00:09:43.720 Roger Simonite: But is Ben Ainsley got the ability to win? You think. 91 00:09:43.880 --> 00:09:45.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yeah, he's got the ability. 92 00:09:46.610 --> 00:09:47.255 Graham Stoddart-Stones: He's 93 00:09:49.130 --> 00:09:49.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's 94 00:09:50.940 --> 00:09:52.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's interesting that the 95 00:09:53.730 --> 00:09:59.083 Graham Stoddart-Stones: when he was up against the Italian boat they had that American 96 00:10:00.220 --> 00:10:02.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: tactician on board who 97 00:10:02.830 --> 00:10:12.199 Graham Stoddart-Stones: came with the most amazing comeback in sports few years ago. So the United States was something like 6 0 down against New Zealand 98 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:16.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and New England had to win one more race to catch it at 7, 99 00:10:16.550 --> 00:10:20.019 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the Americans came back and got them at 11, 7, or something. 100 00:10:20.170 --> 00:10:21.150 Roger Simonite: Really cool. 101 00:10:23.500 --> 00:10:27.870 Parish Clerk: Stop! Stop! Stop giving away! Stop giving away the scores. 102 00:10:27.870 --> 00:10:31.549 Andrew Clegg: So so it's it's the 1st to 7. It's not the best of 7. 103 00:10:31.830 --> 00:10:33.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Correct. It's for you. 104 00:10:33.060 --> 00:10:33.910 Andrew Clegg: Okay. 105 00:10:34.420 --> 00:10:39.279 John Roberts: What intrigued me was the fact that the hydraulics on the boat are powered by a bloke on a push bike. 106 00:10:39.280 --> 00:10:39.775 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Correct 107 00:10:44.820 --> 00:10:47.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you could. There's hope for Richard yet. 108 00:10:48.250 --> 00:10:53.351 Parish Clerk: Just been just been out putting some extra extra stuff in my tires and some more 109 00:10:54.030 --> 00:11:00.659 Parish Clerk: lubricant ready for ready for the for the flail season to to catch me again, giving me another puncture. 110 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:03.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 111 00:11:04.100 --> 00:11:06.980 Roger Simonite: Could I ask some questions? Then? If if 112 00:11:09.915 --> 00:11:11.960 Roger Simonite: Roger. 113 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:14.290 John Roberts: If you don't, we'll chunter on all afternoon. 114 00:11:15.920 --> 00:11:22.260 Roger Simonite: Okay. Well, I'll if I can, I'll share my screen, because I just want to 115 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.040 Roger Simonite: share screen. 116 00:11:26.040 --> 00:11:28.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Afternoon, Hazel! Well done! 117 00:11:29.040 --> 00:11:30.969 Parish Clerk: That's Helen. But never mind. 118 00:11:31.130 --> 00:11:33.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, well, okay, so. 119 00:11:33.020 --> 00:11:41.429 Roger Simonite: So the question relates to administration. I've sort of inherited the parish online. 120 00:11:41.580 --> 00:11:55.669 Roger Simonite: and when I came to look at administration here, we everything seems to be the the same. Is that because that's the the password to log in and and everybody is the same. Is that is that quite normal? 121 00:11:56.570 --> 00:11:57.870 Parish Clerk: Not sure. 122 00:11:58.650 --> 00:11:59.245 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The 123 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:08.679 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm not sure that the profile is the same as the login you do. If you click on any one of them and then go into edit mode. 124 00:12:10.170 --> 00:12:12.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, no, not that one, not the admin. 125 00:12:12.690 --> 00:12:13.889 Roger Simonite: Right. So if I. 126 00:12:13.890 --> 00:12:15.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. That'll do. 127 00:12:16.780 --> 00:12:17.940 Roger Simonite: So so. 128 00:12:18.820 --> 00:12:22.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go up to his pencil in the top right. 129 00:12:24.760 --> 00:12:25.570 Roger Simonite: Okay. 130 00:12:25.570 --> 00:12:29.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can change your password, but you can't actually see it. So 131 00:12:29.550 --> 00:12:37.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: he's p. 2 B. At 40 ud, so that's his login is different from everybody else's. So they're all individual accounts, right? 132 00:12:37.620 --> 00:12:51.109 Roger Simonite: Okay. So so some, I mean, some of these people seem historic. I mean, I don't even know who who Keith is and never, never met him at the parish so so effectively, I could remove him. 133 00:12:51.110 --> 00:12:53.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I should. Yes, how are you. 134 00:12:53.490 --> 00:12:56.150 Roger Simonite: How do I go about doing that. 135 00:12:56.150 --> 00:13:00.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very, very complicated. You have to highlight the person you want to do. 136 00:13:00.620 --> 00:13:01.010 Roger Simonite: Yeah. 137 00:13:01.010 --> 00:13:02.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then go up to the dustbin. 138 00:13:03.370 --> 00:13:06.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, middle of the top corner. 139 00:13:06.160 --> 00:13:08.100 Roger Simonite: So I can just. 140 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go! 141 00:13:14.540 --> 00:13:17.420 Roger Simonite: Okay. So if I now wanted to add one. 142 00:13:18.260 --> 00:13:20.180 Roger Simonite: how would I go about doing that? 143 00:13:20.920 --> 00:13:22.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, that's also extremely complicated. 144 00:13:22.920 --> 00:13:26.125 Roger Simonite: Oh, so it's this one here. 145 00:13:27.040 --> 00:13:29.369 Roger Simonite: So if I go in there. 146 00:13:29.510 --> 00:13:31.290 Roger Simonite: username 147 00:13:33.330 --> 00:13:34.350 Roger Simonite: Linda. 148 00:13:34.680 --> 00:13:35.510 Roger Simonite: Yeah. 149 00:13:41.030 --> 00:13:44.240 Roger Simonite: this is my wife. So I've got to keep him with her. 150 00:13:46.380 --> 00:13:47.360 Roger Simonite: Okay. 151 00:13:47.770 --> 00:13:51.060 Roger Simonite: department. I don't know whether she's got one, so. 152 00:13:51.310 --> 00:13:52.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, she's wife, isn't she? 153 00:13:54.950 --> 00:13:55.300 Parish Clerk: Thanks. 154 00:13:59.450 --> 00:14:00.160 Roger Simonite: It's 155 00:14:14.700 --> 00:14:17.429 Roger Simonite: okay. Now, what type have we got then? So. 156 00:14:17.430 --> 00:14:23.313 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So the choices are a reader is says what it says on the tin. It's just read. Only 157 00:14:23.710 --> 00:14:30.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: an editor can make adjustments to what's already there in a layer, but cannot add anything new. 158 00:14:30.910 --> 00:14:31.360 Roger Simonite: All right. 159 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:35.809 Graham Stoddart-Stones: A data manager can do everything except add new users. 160 00:14:36.255 --> 00:14:36.700 Roger Simonite: Okay. 161 00:14:36.700 --> 00:14:40.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then an admin does the whole lot. 162 00:14:40.030 --> 00:14:43.280 Roger Simonite: So I think I could give her editor role at the moment. 163 00:14:44.325 --> 00:14:44.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 164 00:14:46.207 --> 00:14:53.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That means she can't add any new layers or anything like that which you may be very desirable from your point of view. 165 00:14:53.520 --> 00:15:03.139 Roger Simonite: Yeah, for the time being. Anyway, I don't even know whether they'll actually use it, but that might be seen. So this chap is no longer on the 166 00:15:03.150 --> 00:15:05.129 Roger Simonite: council, so he can go 167 00:15:05.220 --> 00:15:06.620 Roger Simonite: delete user. 168 00:15:07.610 --> 00:15:12.249 Roger Simonite: and then I'll do the next one, which was add one. 169 00:15:18.510 --> 00:15:19.120 Roger Simonite: I think. 170 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:29.789 Andrew Clegg: It's worth Roger saying that she has. She'll have to reply with a password pretty quickly, otherwise otherwise you'll have to do that. This whole process again. 171 00:15:29.790 --> 00:15:32.190 Roger Simonite: Okay, okay, but it. 172 00:15:32.190 --> 00:15:37.079 Stuart Bacon: One thing there as well, Roger, that won't work 173 00:15:37.650 --> 00:15:38.980 Stuart Bacon: or spice. 174 00:15:41.650 --> 00:15:44.079 Roger Simonite: You're you're you're breaking up. 175 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:47.109 Stuart Bacon: Hang on, let me change my account. 176 00:15:47.610 --> 00:15:48.340 Stuart Bacon: How do. 177 00:15:56.170 --> 00:16:02.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think the problem, Stuart, is that you've moved thing around things around. You're not looking up to heaven anymore. 178 00:16:02.830 --> 00:16:04.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And yeah, that's better. 179 00:16:06.590 --> 00:16:07.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But now. 180 00:16:09.890 --> 00:16:11.169 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, does that work. 181 00:16:11.660 --> 00:16:12.900 Roger Simonite: Yeah, well. 182 00:16:13.190 --> 00:16:16.119 Stuart Bacon: Sorry the username's got a space in it which won't work. 183 00:16:16.340 --> 00:16:16.935 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, 184 00:16:17.530 --> 00:16:18.390 Roger Simonite: Okay. 185 00:16:19.580 --> 00:16:22.110 Roger Simonite: so I'll just put Ian. Then I'll leave it. As Ian. 186 00:16:22.110 --> 00:16:22.820 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 187 00:16:22.990 --> 00:16:23.560 Stuart Bacon: Yeah. 188 00:16:24.260 --> 00:16:32.140 Roger Simonite: See, all these little things are so valuable when you going and using it, and then it all goes. The computer says no. 189 00:16:35.650 --> 00:16:36.730 Roger Simonite: and then. 190 00:16:36.730 --> 00:16:37.880 Roger Robinson: Here, here. 191 00:16:39.890 --> 00:16:40.575 Andrew Clegg: Oh! 192 00:16:41.260 --> 00:16:42.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon. Bob. 193 00:16:42.340 --> 00:16:43.310 Andrew Clegg: Hi! Bob! 194 00:16:43.780 --> 00:16:44.610 Bob Grainger: Hello! 195 00:16:45.140 --> 00:16:49.940 Bob Grainger: And I've got to leave about 22. So Hello! Hello and goodbye soon soon. 196 00:16:51.270 --> 00:16:56.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we've been told by Roger. He's got an endless supply of questions for. 197 00:16:56.490 --> 00:16:56.970 Bob Grainger: Boom. 198 00:16:56.970 --> 00:17:00.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you have one that you need, answered, I should get in there quick. Yeah. 199 00:17:00.690 --> 00:17:03.469 Roger Simonite: I haven't got that many. I just this. 200 00:17:03.470 --> 00:17:05.029 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now I can come. 201 00:17:05.030 --> 00:17:08.279 Roger Simonite: Out of sharing. Now, now I can do this. 202 00:17:08.280 --> 00:17:10.300 Bob Grainger: Graham, only I'm only here for the cake. 203 00:17:11.180 --> 00:17:14.325 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There. There is a sort of 204 00:17:16.030 --> 00:17:17.769 Bob Grainger: I've just had my cake. 205 00:17:18.493 --> 00:17:19.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: A nightmare. 206 00:17:20.710 --> 00:17:22.029 Stuart Bacon: I can do it 207 00:17:22.690 --> 00:17:25.070 Stuart Bacon: if if you'll fit down the cam down the camera. 208 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:26.266 Bob Grainger: Yeah, yeah. 209 00:17:30.730 --> 00:17:33.980 Roger Simonite: Okay. So how am I gonna come out? 210 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:37.299 Roger Simonite: Where? Where do I get to. 211 00:17:37.300 --> 00:17:44.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The clue again is extremely complicated if you go to the right hand. Well, that was a complicated way of doing it. 212 00:17:45.385 --> 00:17:51.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's there's always a little globe icon on the top right corner that will take you back to maps. 213 00:17:51.730 --> 00:17:55.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then when you're back on the maps, page, you you're in where you need to be. 214 00:17:57.090 --> 00:18:00.819 Roger Simonite: So so let's cancel what we were going to do there. 215 00:18:02.850 --> 00:18:04.249 Roger Simonite: Oh, don't show that 216 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:05.000 Roger Simonite: right? So. 217 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:06.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon, Roger. 218 00:18:06.550 --> 00:18:07.800 Roger Robinson: And you, Roger. Yes. 219 00:18:07.800 --> 00:18:10.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nice to see a new face. 220 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:15.450 Roger Simonite: And Roger too. So say say again, Graham. How do I stop sharing. 221 00:18:16.060 --> 00:18:17.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you have stopped sharing. 222 00:18:18.590 --> 00:18:25.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're not sharing now. But I thought your question was going to be, how do you get out of the user list back to the maps. 223 00:18:25.710 --> 00:18:34.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And there is in the top right hand corner of the screen a series of 3 icons, the middle of which will be a globe. 224 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:36.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you click on the globe 225 00:18:36.890 --> 00:18:38.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which represents maps. 226 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:40.680 Roger Simonite: Okay. Okay. 227 00:18:40.790 --> 00:18:41.699 Roger Simonite: Thank you. 228 00:18:43.060 --> 00:18:43.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And 229 00:18:45.190 --> 00:18:48.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you're Roger S. And the other is Roger R. 230 00:18:48.150 --> 00:18:50.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or R. You could be R squared. How about that? 231 00:18:52.900 --> 00:18:55.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Maybe that's too easily misconstrued. 232 00:18:55.870 --> 00:18:56.815 Roger Robinson: Absolutely. 233 00:18:57.760 --> 00:19:05.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's exactly so. R. 2, would you have any specific question that you weren't asked? Please. 234 00:19:05.420 --> 00:19:07.000 Bob Grainger: The other one should be G. 2. Graham. 235 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:07.449 Roger Robinson: So, yeah. 236 00:19:07.760 --> 00:19:10.205 Parish Clerk: Me, too. Yeah. 237 00:19:11.020 --> 00:19:15.515 Roger Robinson: And that is, I suppose the main question is, is there any 238 00:19:16.120 --> 00:19:23.540 Roger Robinson: online help menu you can use? Because what I, for instance, when I was trying to put on a map. 239 00:19:24.166 --> 00:19:29.429 Roger Robinson: The outline of somewhere, we wanted to declare as a local green space. 240 00:19:30.978 --> 00:19:36.910 Roger Robinson: The you you got halfway around the the Polygon, and then it, and then it sort of 241 00:19:36.940 --> 00:19:46.919 Roger Robinson: crosses over and and gives you a a really complicated shape, which is not the the shape of the bit of land that you want to delineate. 242 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:55.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So the answer to your question is, yes and yes, and usually the way things get fixed around here is for you to share your screen and show us what the issue is. And so 243 00:19:56.390 --> 00:19:57.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: here we'll walk you through it. 244 00:19:57.930 --> 00:20:03.509 Roger Robinson: Okay, well, that's very difficult. Because I'm actually on my my, my wife's computer, because the 245 00:20:03.630 --> 00:20:08.389 Roger Robinson: computer in my room is being prepared for my mother-in-law's 100th birthday party tomorrow. 246 00:20:08.390 --> 00:20:12.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, provided you can remember your login and password. Your argument is irrelevant. 247 00:20:12.910 --> 00:20:13.640 Roger Robinson: Hurry up! 248 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:21.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Presumably your wife's computer is attached to the Internet, which is why you're talking to us now. And once you're on the Internet, you can talk to parish online. 249 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:23.070 Roger Robinson: Right, so. 250 00:20:23.070 --> 00:20:31.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Need to go in your browser to a an address called Xmap Dot Cloud, or is it parash online dot cloud? Somebody correct. 251 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:33.960 Stuart Bacon: Repression line.com. 252 00:20:34.230 --> 00:20:35.197 Andrew Clegg: Both will work. 253 00:20:35.850 --> 00:20:37.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's true. Both will work. 254 00:20:37.830 --> 00:20:41.420 Roger Robinson: Sounds far too complicated for me to do anything about it at this minute. 255 00:20:41.580 --> 00:20:42.000 Stuart Bacon: Okay. 256 00:20:44.150 --> 00:20:44.860 Stuart Bacon: But 257 00:20:47.370 --> 00:20:48.260 Stuart Bacon: thank you. 258 00:20:51.070 --> 00:20:52.410 Roger Robinson: And also my wife's 259 00:20:52.620 --> 00:20:55.599 Roger Robinson: studio has been cleared as well of any. 260 00:20:55.600 --> 00:20:56.220 John Roberts: Muted. 261 00:20:59.840 --> 00:21:00.400 Bob Grainger: If it. 262 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:04.379 John Roberts: If this is drawing polygons around areas. Graham, do you want me to share the screen. 263 00:21:04.690 --> 00:21:05.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. 264 00:21:05.970 --> 00:21:08.186 John Roberts: That's if Roger comes back. 265 00:21:08.890 --> 00:21:09.450 Parish Clerk: Yeah, so. 266 00:21:09.450 --> 00:21:11.137 Roger Robinson: Nothing. Oh, sorry 267 00:21:11.900 --> 00:21:13.879 Roger Robinson: you answered it. No 268 00:21:15.810 --> 00:21:16.710 Roger Robinson: good. 269 00:21:16.710 --> 00:21:21.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Roger has clearly been to Turkish meals, where you have belly dancing courses between 270 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:23.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: courses. 271 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:35.980 Roger Simonite: I've I've just spoken to my friend as to why he hasn't arrived yet, and he's got a a little bit of a crisis with his Internet at the moment, but he he thinks he'll he'll be in in about 5 min. 272 00:21:35.980 --> 00:21:37.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. Thank you. 273 00:21:39.540 --> 00:21:41.856 John Roberts: Roger, you were talking about 274 00:21:42.540 --> 00:21:45.210 John Roberts: drawing it round areas of land. Yeah. 275 00:21:45.210 --> 00:21:46.220 Roger Robinson: Yes, please. 276 00:21:47.320 --> 00:21:49.949 John Roberts: This is. I don't know how much you can see. 277 00:21:50.220 --> 00:21:51.349 Roger Robinson: Yeah, that's good. 278 00:21:51.350 --> 00:21:51.950 John Roberts: Right. 279 00:21:53.930 --> 00:21:57.199 John Roberts: This is what we we've done to areas of the village. 280 00:21:57.690 --> 00:21:58.140 Roger Robinson: Yes. 281 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:00.470 Parish Clerk: Hey? So British. 282 00:22:03.890 --> 00:22:05.259 John Roberts: I have got dog pins. 283 00:22:05.610 --> 00:22:07.110 John Roberts: Basically, they're polygon. 284 00:22:07.110 --> 00:22:07.700 Parish Clerk: Yeah. 285 00:22:14.320 --> 00:22:15.390 John Roberts: Add feature. 286 00:22:17.280 --> 00:22:18.210 John Roberts: And then 287 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:23.099 John Roberts: what you're talking about is sometimes it doesn't always give you 288 00:22:25.340 --> 00:22:26.530 John Roberts: what you want. 289 00:22:27.280 --> 00:22:28.440 Roger Robinson: That's right. 290 00:22:34.930 --> 00:22:36.250 John Roberts: Once that's there. 291 00:22:38.770 --> 00:22:40.089 John Roberts: If I save it. 292 00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:51.760 Roger Robinson: That's right. It's all a matter of familiarizing myself with with the buttons. 293 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.060 John Roberts: Yeah. But if I if I then highlight it, I can go to edit. 294 00:22:58.380 --> 00:22:59.160 Roger Robinson: Right. 295 00:23:00.320 --> 00:23:02.330 John Roberts: That allows me then to 296 00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:04.040 John Roberts: pick up 297 00:23:05.370 --> 00:23:09.469 John Roberts: the bits anywhere within these lines. It doesn't have to be a corner. 298 00:23:10.930 --> 00:23:13.849 John Roberts: so I could if I wanted to split the line. 299 00:23:21.710 --> 00:23:27.099 Roger Robinson: Yes, that that is the tool that I would. I would delight in being able to use. 300 00:23:27.100 --> 00:23:30.370 John Roberts: And I. I would just work my way around the Polygon. Then 301 00:23:31.750 --> 00:23:36.059 John Roberts: I walk all the way around, and when I'm happy I just press save. 302 00:23:36.300 --> 00:23:40.030 Roger Robinson: You've you've done in 90 seconds what? It took me about 90 min to. 303 00:23:41.620 --> 00:23:43.640 John Roberts: I've been practicing. 304 00:23:43.640 --> 00:24:10.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a couple of golden principles, Roger. The 1st thing is is when you're doing a polygon around a complicated surface. This just do it very rough and ready to begin with. So, although I mean, you might argue that this is an oblong, and I would just have done like John did just go around the oblong 1st with 4 straight lines, and then come back in and straighten it out afterwards, because it's much much easier 305 00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:18.909 Graham Stoddart-Stones: to make a mistake. If you're doing the complicated bit, and if you if you slip and the system saves itself, then you've got a half finished 306 00:24:19.270 --> 00:24:22.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: polygon that doesn't go anywhere which is really irritating. 307 00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:23.750 Roger Robinson: Absolutely. 308 00:24:23.750 --> 00:24:40.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So do it blunt and and broad brush to start with, and then go in and fine, tune it later. And the other point is that when you're fine tuning it zoom in as far as you can. It's it's practicable, because the more you zoom in the more you you can see where you've got to touch. 309 00:24:40.190 --> 00:24:40.610 Roger Robinson: It wouldn't. 310 00:24:41.304 --> 00:24:42.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 311 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:46.229 Roger Robinson: Good. No, no, that that's splendid. That's that's that's gonna help a lot. Thank you. 312 00:24:46.870 --> 00:24:53.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, that's that's 1 question. You've got to think about another one now, whilst we go back to Roger Est with his next one. 313 00:24:54.377 --> 00:24:58.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and he said, Hazel, I'm sorry I hadn't checked to see whether you have any questions today. 314 00:25:01.270 --> 00:25:03.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and at the moment you're on mute. 315 00:25:03.500 --> 00:25:05.689 John Roberts: It could be. How do I get the sound to work with. 316 00:25:09.860 --> 00:25:10.530 Helen Davey: Is, it 317 00:25:13.290 --> 00:25:21.129 Helen Davey: haven't got a specific question. But I will just say, I emailed the person you said to email, and they didn't know what I was talking about. 318 00:25:21.500 --> 00:25:33.209 Helen Davey: So I've now contacted my local council to ask them if they know anything about parish online. So I'm just still plodding on trying to 319 00:25:34.760 --> 00:25:37.280 Helen Davey: find out more, because 320 00:25:37.430 --> 00:25:41.100 Helen Davey: if they've got what I need, like 321 00:25:41.590 --> 00:25:46.569 Helen Davey: defibrillators and poo bins, I don't have to go around and find them and put them in. 322 00:25:46.570 --> 00:25:47.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely, right. 323 00:25:47.950 --> 00:25:50.049 Helen Davey: At the moment I'm still struggling. 324 00:25:50.710 --> 00:25:55.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if I recall, didn't you? We find examples of where. 325 00:25:56.080 --> 00:25:59.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: as its Suffolk coast was already exporting data. 326 00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:07.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I suggested that you take that to Simon Miles at Geosphere and have him do the rest of it for you? 327 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:09.309 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you try that. 328 00:26:09.770 --> 00:26:12.510 Helen Davey: So miles. I think. 329 00:26:14.610 --> 00:26:18.625 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So what you did what we did with you, Helen, was to 330 00:26:19.670 --> 00:26:24.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: find places where East Suffolk Parish Council was exporting data. 331 00:26:24.530 --> 00:26:25.330 Helen Davey: Yes. 332 00:26:25.330 --> 00:26:32.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you just took the URL of any one of those sites and email it to Simon Miles. 333 00:26:33.210 --> 00:26:40.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: saying, Here's a 1 example. Could we please ask them for? And then you gave a list of the things you wanted. 334 00:26:41.410 --> 00:26:43.380 Helen Davey: Where I finished up was 335 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:44.880 Helen Davey: someone called. 336 00:26:46.090 --> 00:26:47.710 Helen Davey: Clear man! 337 00:26:51.290 --> 00:26:56.559 Helen Davey: Your inquiry requires an immediate response, please. Oh, no, that was because she was. 338 00:26:58.630 --> 00:26:59.777 Helen Davey: I have left. 339 00:27:00.686 --> 00:27:02.309 Helen Davey: She's left the employment. 340 00:27:08.990 --> 00:27:11.030 Helen Davey: thank you for contact. 341 00:27:11.670 --> 00:27:12.550 Helen Davey: Oh. 342 00:27:14.630 --> 00:27:16.880 Helen Davey: I've got Stuart Bacon here. 343 00:27:18.610 --> 00:27:25.120 Helen Davey: Thank you for contacting. Please be aware that the clerk only works part time. How did I get that? 344 00:27:27.950 --> 00:27:30.220 Helen Davey: There we are. I shall look 345 00:27:30.580 --> 00:27:33.830 Helen Davey: so. I'll go over that again, Simon. 346 00:27:33.830 --> 00:27:36.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Simon dot Miles. 347 00:27:36.380 --> 00:27:37.100 Helen Davey: Bills. 348 00:27:37.100 --> 00:27:42.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: At geosphere.com, that's GEOX, PHER e. 349 00:27:45.020 --> 00:27:46.410 Helen Davey: Here, dot. 350 00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:50.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mv. 351 00:27:50.584 --> 00:27:52.160 Mark Holder: Same time you are. 352 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:59.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Of the example that you've seen that they are already exporting, and he will take it from there. You need to 353 00:27:59.550 --> 00:28:00.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: what data you're looking for. 354 00:28:01.990 --> 00:28:06.379 Helen Davey: And I'm very sorry. But did you say Suffolk coastal our export. 355 00:28:06.380 --> 00:28:12.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, I'm I'm going back on memory now, whichever council you're a part of. 356 00:28:15.407 --> 00:28:17.320 Helen Davey: Sub accounts. So 357 00:28:18.397 --> 00:28:20.190 Helen Davey: coastal Council? Yeah. 358 00:28:20.360 --> 00:28:21.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well. 359 00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:28.839 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Helen, if you want to share your screen, we can search for one of them now and then. You'll have the URL ready to send him. 360 00:28:34.090 --> 00:28:35.100 Helen Davey: right 361 00:28:35.660 --> 00:28:36.790 Helen Davey: so. 362 00:28:38.900 --> 00:28:41.609 Helen Davey: Oh, I'm not sharing that, am I? Oh, silly bugger! 363 00:28:41.610 --> 00:28:42.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yet. 364 00:28:42.010 --> 00:28:42.355 Helen Davey: Great! 365 00:28:45.530 --> 00:28:47.370 Helen Davey: Oh, dear! And dear. 366 00:28:49.260 --> 00:28:53.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whilst you're looking for the little green button, I'll just say hello to Mark Holder. 367 00:28:53.080 --> 00:28:55.200 Helen Davey: Yeah, I've got the green button that's just. 368 00:28:57.380 --> 00:29:01.439 Roger Simonite: This is the mark. I introduced the the Chedsey boy. 369 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good. So his Internet has been fixed. 370 00:29:04.170 --> 00:29:09.699 Mark Holder: Yeah, we came home. We came home, and it was it all gone down. Everything had gone wrong. So it's all fixed. 371 00:29:10.550 --> 00:29:14.804 Mark Holder: 2 bits of sticky plaster and some duct tape, and we're back up and running again. 372 00:29:15.130 --> 00:29:15.810 Roger Simonite: Huh! 373 00:29:16.420 --> 00:29:18.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So Helen just. 374 00:29:18.410 --> 00:29:18.750 Mark Holder: That's. 375 00:29:18.750 --> 00:29:19.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Open up a new. 376 00:29:19.750 --> 00:29:20.570 Mark Holder: Tab up there. 377 00:29:20.570 --> 00:29:21.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, Helen. 378 00:29:22.100 --> 00:29:25.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: just open a new one. Go up to the plus sign at the top. 379 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And now type in your the local Parish Council. 380 00:29:31.550 --> 00:29:36.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which was yes, it wasn't Suffolk County Council before, was it? It was something else. 381 00:29:47.520 --> 00:29:50.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I thought there was a coastal somewhere in your address. 382 00:29:50.420 --> 00:29:51.810 Helen Davey: And 36. 383 00:29:52.150 --> 00:29:53.020 Helen Davey: Stuff it. 384 00:29:57.710 --> 00:29:58.200 Parish Clerk: Cool. 385 00:30:03.040 --> 00:30:04.679 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. So if you go on. 386 00:30:10.470 --> 00:30:11.260 Helen Davey: Right. 387 00:30:12.770 --> 00:30:14.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't see the coastal one there yet. 388 00:30:18.155 --> 00:30:18.770 Helen Davey: No. 389 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Can you scroll further down the screen? Here we go. 390 00:30:22.650 --> 00:30:23.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Keep looking. 391 00:30:24.770 --> 00:30:28.961 Helen Davey: Oh, does this? Does Suffolk still exist? 392 00:30:29.560 --> 00:30:31.939 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We'll click on the Arrow, and let's see what the answer is. 393 00:30:31.940 --> 00:30:32.730 Helen Davey: Yes. 394 00:30:35.214 --> 00:30:40.430 Helen Davey: to form a new District Council, Suffolk Coastal. I I get way. 395 00:30:40.430 --> 00:30:43.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now it's now it's East Suffolk district. Okay? 396 00:30:43.490 --> 00:30:44.290 Helen Davey: Yes. 397 00:30:44.580 --> 00:30:46.239 Helen Davey: East Suffolk district. 398 00:30:47.650 --> 00:30:48.770 Helen Davey: which is. 399 00:30:50.620 --> 00:30:55.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So let me just pause and take a look at the notes from Simon. 400 00:30:55.650 --> 00:30:57.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So for those of you who are 401 00:30:58.460 --> 00:31:07.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: not aware if you go into the knowledge base in parish, online and type in council data, it tells you how to find this sort of information. 402 00:31:07.930 --> 00:31:09.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I'm just going to do that. 403 00:31:19.940 --> 00:31:22.319 Helen Davey: Now this is my local 404 00:31:25.620 --> 00:31:30.650 Helen Davey: council at Melton, which is, and then we've got the County Council in Ipswich 405 00:31:32.780 --> 00:31:33.430 Helen Davey: right. 406 00:31:33.430 --> 00:31:35.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Any one of those will do as well. 407 00:31:36.260 --> 00:31:36.890 Helen Davey: Yeah. 408 00:31:37.370 --> 00:31:38.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just 409 00:31:58.120 --> 00:32:08.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: yes. What Simon suggests in the knowledge base, Helen, is that you do a search under data.gov.uk slash search. 410 00:32:08.710 --> 00:32:14.300 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and that will show you what your Council is already publishing as open data. 411 00:32:14.580 --> 00:32:17.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and that's where we found the stuff for you before. 412 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:24.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you open up your a fresh tab in the browser and go to data.gov.uk 413 00:32:25.430 --> 00:32:26.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: slash search. 414 00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:32.900 Helen Davey: GATA. 415 00:32:33.820 --> 00:32:35.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Dot gov GOV. 416 00:32:35.760 --> 00:32:38.119 Helen Davey: Dot GOV. 417 00:32:38.120 --> 00:32:39.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Dot uk. 418 00:32:39.380 --> 00:32:41.650 Helen Davey: Dot UK. 419 00:32:41.650 --> 00:32:43.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Slash, search. 420 00:32:43.730 --> 00:32:49.150 Helen Davey: Slash SEAR. H. Oh, I can spell search. 421 00:32:52.340 --> 00:33:02.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So there, there we go, you see. So then we you typed in a a filter where your publisher was. In your case. Now East Suffolk? Is it East Suffolk district? 422 00:33:02.540 --> 00:33:03.190 Helen Davey: Yes. 423 00:33:03.190 --> 00:33:05.629 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So go into the publisher Arrow. Yeah. 424 00:33:06.460 --> 00:33:10.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Type in East Suffolk, or look for East Suffolk, whichever you want to do. Yeah. 425 00:33:14.910 --> 00:33:16.769 Helen Davey: Oh, crap! You! Have you seen. 426 00:33:16.770 --> 00:33:22.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you just type in Ea, it'll find it for you. Go up to the white box. There you go. 427 00:33:22.290 --> 00:33:24.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: EAEA, EA. 428 00:33:24.990 --> 00:33:25.595 Helen Davey: Oh! 429 00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:27.719 Parish Clerk: It's not like yo. 430 00:33:30.450 --> 00:33:31.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, so click on these. 431 00:33:32.660 --> 00:33:35.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go down to the blue bit and tuck on the the blue bit. 432 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:43.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go now, just oh, oh, no! Well, yes, I would just if I were you. I just click on, apply filter the green box underneath. 433 00:33:44.300 --> 00:33:44.910 Helen Davey: Oh! 434 00:33:45.730 --> 00:33:47.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's see what they've got. 435 00:33:50.510 --> 00:33:53.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that's all we've got. Whoa! That's a bit miserable. 436 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:53.659 Helen Davey: Oops! 437 00:33:56.610 --> 00:34:00.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it doesn't matter which one you go. I would click on the 438 00:34:00.788 --> 00:34:04.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the Suffolk coastal local plan. Just click on that. Yeah. 439 00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:09.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and go up to the the URL box above it. 440 00:34:09.570 --> 00:34:10.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Copy that 441 00:34:11.070 --> 00:34:13.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: go up, up, up, bit more 442 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:19.369 Graham Stoddart-Stones: bit down from there. That 1! 0, that one! Yes, highlight that 443 00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:22.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the the bit that starts date. Yes. 444 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:22.509 Mark Holder: 10. 445 00:34:22.510 --> 00:34:23.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Copy it. 446 00:34:25.460 --> 00:34:28.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then put that in the email to Simon. 447 00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:30.420 Helen Davey: I'll write. 448 00:34:30.420 --> 00:34:36.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go, you go over to your email. Now, which is your left hand box by the look of it, left hand tab. 449 00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:38.689 Helen Davey: Left left hand. 450 00:34:38.690 --> 00:34:39.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Come up! 451 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:40.400 Helen Davey: I see you. 452 00:34:40.409 --> 00:34:42.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Top line of the browser. Go to the left, tab. 453 00:34:43.350 --> 00:34:43.900 Helen Davey: Oh, okay. 454 00:34:43.900 --> 00:34:47.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. Yeah. So just compose the note to Simon. 455 00:34:49.330 --> 00:34:50.310 Helen Davey: Pose. 456 00:34:50.870 --> 00:34:52.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Simon dot Miles. 457 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.030 Helen Davey: IMON. 458 00:34:54.030 --> 00:34:56.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: He's the 1st one. Look 459 00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:58.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: at. 460 00:34:58.560 --> 00:35:00.170 Helen Davey: Don't come in cabbage or something. 461 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.910 Helen Davey: Yeah, but I'll put it right in a minute. Should I? 462 00:35:04.350 --> 00:35:09.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if you just go into the text, the empty text box and do a copy. 463 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, at geosphere at sign. 464 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:16.210 Helen Davey: G. 465 00:35:16.210 --> 00:35:18.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: GEOX 466 00:35:18.530 --> 00:35:19.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: x 467 00:35:19.720 --> 00:35:22.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: PHER EA 3 468 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:23.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: dot com. 469 00:35:25.060 --> 00:35:25.950 Helen Davey: Subject. 470 00:35:26.950 --> 00:35:30.289 Helen Davey: should I post the subject, or help as a. 471 00:35:30.290 --> 00:35:33.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's called. The subject is called Council Data. 472 00:35:34.270 --> 00:35:36.170 Helen Davey: So if I put in council data. 473 00:35:36.170 --> 00:35:38.679 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, just put in to cancel data. Yeah. 474 00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:43.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you go into the text box, yes. 475 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:45.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: good control 476 00:35:45.580 --> 00:35:48.569 Graham Stoddart-Stones: control V or a paste, whichever you want to do it. 477 00:35:49.610 --> 00:35:55.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. So in due course you can say, dear Simon, here is an example of 478 00:35:56.510 --> 00:35:59.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: open mat data put out by Suffolk Council. 479 00:36:00.170 --> 00:36:07.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Could you please see if you can help us get, and then the list of things that you want waste bins, dog bins, whatever it was you wanted. 480 00:36:07.350 --> 00:36:09.610 Helen Davey: Thank you very much again. 481 00:36:09.610 --> 00:36:15.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Back up to the address. It's simon.miles@geosphere.com. You need the.com at the end. 482 00:36:16.390 --> 00:36:18.509 Helen Davey: I thought why, that was looking a bit 483 00:36:19.610 --> 00:36:20.470 Helen Davey: dot. 484 00:36:21.250 --> 00:36:23.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And going back to 485 00:36:24.380 --> 00:36:25.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: R. 2. 486 00:36:26.570 --> 00:36:34.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And your question about is there help and ways to do things? Have you found the knowledge base in parish online, Roger. 487 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: we saw Archie with us. 488 00:36:39.810 --> 00:36:40.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: yeah. 489 00:36:41.350 --> 00:36:42.610 Helen Davey: Hey? Nine's here! 490 00:36:42.610 --> 00:36:43.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Roger, you're muted. 491 00:36:43.870 --> 00:36:44.450 Parish Clerk: Which. 492 00:36:48.350 --> 00:36:55.520 Roger Robinson: I I beg your pardon. Yes, I I've I've written that down now in my little bit of paper that magical. 493 00:36:55.520 --> 00:36:56.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so. 494 00:36:56.770 --> 00:37:02.120 Roger Robinson: And I shall. I shall try and see if I can work my way through that, and. 495 00:37:03.180 --> 00:37:09.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. But if you look at the top right hand corner of your parish online screen. 496 00:37:09.140 --> 00:37:09.700 Roger Robinson: Right. 497 00:37:09.700 --> 00:37:10.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a cogwheel. 498 00:37:11.540 --> 00:37:12.020 Roger Robinson: Right. 499 00:37:12.020 --> 00:37:19.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you click on the cogwheel, you get a mini menu, and the second item is help and support. If you go in there, it takes you to the knowledge base 500 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:38.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the knowledge base is a whole bunch of articles on most of the topics to do with running parish online and the format for each is a video showing you how to do it. And then a set of step-by-step instructions which actually take you through each individual step you have to take to complete it. 501 00:37:38.900 --> 00:37:41.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's actually pretty comprehensive, pretty good. 502 00:37:42.120 --> 00:37:44.600 Roger Robinson: Excellent, so we'll 503 00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:48.929 Roger Robinson: help and support. And then you said, there's something there between that and knowledge base. 504 00:37:49.340 --> 00:37:55.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, there's a you get a search box, and you can just type what you're looking for in the search box. So Stuart's about to show you. 505 00:38:00.520 --> 00:38:02.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you're looking at the screen, Roger. 506 00:38:02.740 --> 00:38:03.220 Roger Robinson: Yeah, yeah. 507 00:38:04.142 --> 00:38:09.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart will show us the. There's the cogway in the top right hand corner. Click on help and support. 508 00:38:10.620 --> 00:38:12.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then you get 2 choices here. 509 00:38:12.640 --> 00:38:17.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can either type what you're looking for straight into the search box, or you can go up the top. 510 00:38:17.830 --> 00:38:22.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a box called Knowledge base which gives you all these subjects. They talk about. 511 00:38:22.650 --> 00:38:23.660 Roger Robinson: Okay. 512 00:38:24.380 --> 00:38:34.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you can go. They also have a search box there, which is just an easy, but if you type in, for instance, what we've just been talking about is council data. So if Stuart types in council data, yeah. 513 00:38:35.560 --> 00:38:39.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you probably need to respell council to it 514 00:38:39.520 --> 00:38:42.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: in the way that 90% of the rest of the world uses it. 515 00:38:43.910 --> 00:38:44.930 Parish Clerk: There we go! 516 00:38:45.160 --> 00:38:46.210 Mark Holder: Yeah. 517 00:38:46.830 --> 00:38:52.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then this is where you know. So in this case this is where he's showing us what to do. 518 00:38:52.270 --> 00:38:55.350 Roger Robinson: Right, and that was what brought up. 519 00:38:55.350 --> 00:38:56.639 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, exactly. Yes. 520 00:38:56.640 --> 00:38:59.890 Roger Robinson: Yeah. Good. Okay, no, no, I'm learning. I'm learning. 521 00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:00.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right. 522 00:39:00.890 --> 00:39:01.670 Roger Robinson: Thank you. 523 00:39:01.670 --> 00:39:03.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you ready with? Question? 2 yet? 524 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.090 Roger Robinson: No, no, no, I'm just gonna listen now. 525 00:39:06.090 --> 00:39:13.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's a very poor approach. If we all did that we wouldn't get very far. So, Roger Simonite, we're ready to come back to you now. 526 00:39:14.150 --> 00:39:14.970 Parish Clerk: Beautiful. 527 00:39:18.180 --> 00:39:19.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 528 00:39:19.210 --> 00:39:22.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you've got this wonderful habit of speaking on mute doesn't get you very far. 529 00:39:28.120 --> 00:39:29.380 Mark Holder: Mute Roger. 530 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:30.609 Mark Holder: Hi! There we go! 531 00:39:30.610 --> 00:39:31.909 Roger Simonite: I realised that, but. 532 00:39:31.910 --> 00:39:33.089 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I shouldn't get to the. 533 00:39:33.090 --> 00:39:36.699 Roger Simonite: The bloody thing to actually unmute it. It was hiding. 534 00:39:37.522 --> 00:39:42.047 Roger Simonite: The the question that I have is related to 535 00:39:42.640 --> 00:39:45.559 Roger Simonite: all the fields that that 536 00:39:45.610 --> 00:39:48.069 Roger Simonite: run down the side as to 537 00:39:48.310 --> 00:39:50.650 Roger Simonite: identifying which ones 538 00:39:51.620 --> 00:39:55.190 Roger Simonite: other people can see, and equally, if 539 00:39:55.410 --> 00:39:58.080 Roger Simonite: the parish creates a field. 540 00:39:58.150 --> 00:40:03.259 Roger Simonite: an individual field for themselves. But they want to share it. 541 00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:06.169 Roger Simonite: Can they share it? Is it? Is it possible. 542 00:40:07.850 --> 00:40:11.999 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So the system comes with ready-made 543 00:40:12.872 --> 00:40:16.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: fields or layers, which are 544 00:40:16.710 --> 00:40:23.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: shared with everybody, and they call either collaborative layers or or fields, or 545 00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:30.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: in a couple of cases they're called national fields. So national things are things like cemeteries and allotments. 546 00:40:30.870 --> 00:40:35.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But if you go into the assets and maintenance layers. 547 00:40:36.340 --> 00:40:43.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They very carefully say the word collaborative on those ones which are shared with everybody else. Yeah. And. 548 00:40:43.870 --> 00:41:11.119 Roger Simonite: And I've I've seen that. And you, you know, I found, like, for instance, the bins I found. Other parishes have populated it, and I can see their grip bins the same as I can now see mine. But but if I had something that I wanted to share with the the District Council, or something like that. Is it is it possible that you can turn it into being able to be seen by others or not? 549 00:41:11.500 --> 00:41:23.048 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So there are 2 parts to that question. So if you're talking about exchanging data with your County Council or your district council, then 550 00:41:23.990 --> 00:41:28.799 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Parish online is what's called a geographic information system for Gis 551 00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:39.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and all the counties and districts, with the exception of the west part of Somerset and Taunton, West or Taunton and Somerset West have got geographical information systems. 552 00:41:40.010 --> 00:41:43.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and therefore they're compatible. And so anything that you've got 553 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:50.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: in your version of parish online can be exchanged with your county or district council. 554 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:55.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but you just need to ask geosphere to help you actually set it up. 555 00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.789 Roger Simonite: Okay. So so it's more like, the data has to be exported, such that they can then. 556 00:42:00.790 --> 00:42:09.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it's it's a bit cleverer than that. They can set it up so it'll be automatically done from here on, in for you on that particular there, or that particular piece of data? 557 00:42:10.502 --> 00:42:21.199 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The other part of your question was, can you create a field which other people can see? And the answer is, No, it's not within our power. But 558 00:42:21.620 --> 00:42:33.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: every Friday afternoon we feel the absolute obligation to come up with a question for Chris Muse that's going to upset his weekend. Asking that question would be a really good way of doing that. Sorry. 559 00:42:35.700 --> 00:42:43.780 Parish Clerk: Well, but surely you could have a public map if he wants to share layers with others. 560 00:42:43.780 --> 00:42:45.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very good point. Are you familiar. 561 00:42:45.180 --> 00:42:45.840 Mark Holder: It's probably not. 562 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:46.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Infrastructure. 563 00:42:46.690 --> 00:42:47.440 Roger Simonite: No. 564 00:42:48.107 --> 00:42:53.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, why don't we pass you to Richard to fill that enormous gap in your knowledge? 565 00:42:54.900 --> 00:43:00.099 Parish Clerk: I knew I knew I'd get lumbered somewhere alongside afternoon. Chris, I'm waiting for your questions. 566 00:43:00.100 --> 00:43:00.550 chris edwards: Really. 567 00:43:00.550 --> 00:43:05.949 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Clearly you clearly you've never been in the military 568 00:43:06.340 --> 00:43:06.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so. 569 00:43:07.720 --> 00:43:11.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but the 1st thing they teach you is never, ever volunteer for anything. 570 00:43:12.080 --> 00:43:17.590 Roger Simonite: No, we have been in the military, so so. I know exactly what you mean. 571 00:43:22.057 --> 00:43:28.780 Parish Clerk: To create, to create one is here in the under Admin public maps. 572 00:43:28.950 --> 00:43:29.570 Mark Holder: Oh, yeah. 573 00:43:29.570 --> 00:43:31.970 Parish Clerk: And you can. You can create 574 00:43:32.120 --> 00:43:33.489 Parish Clerk: or you can bin 575 00:43:34.151 --> 00:43:36.319 Parish Clerk: this will then lead you through. 576 00:43:37.050 --> 00:43:46.590 Parish Clerk: If I, if I go to the one that that Graham always uses for other things, which is the one about entry point. When I can find the bleeding thing. 577 00:43:47.350 --> 00:43:51.399 Parish Clerk: I wish I put my right glasses on. Now 578 00:43:52.680 --> 00:43:54.139 Parish Clerk: somebody will find it. 579 00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:56.789 Parish Clerk: This is the one 580 00:43:57.315 --> 00:44:02.199 Parish Clerk: because it's already here. It's taking me straight to being able to to look at it. 581 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.500 Parish Clerk: So this ain't gonna work for me, is it? 582 00:44:10.700 --> 00:44:15.260 Parish Clerk: Can you see the can you see the map of the hallowed, the hallowed parish of Stagurzi. 583 00:44:15.770 --> 00:44:16.100 chris edwards: Lips. 584 00:44:17.350 --> 00:44:18.300 Parish Clerk: In here. 585 00:44:19.750 --> 00:44:21.970 Parish Clerk: and then here all layers. 586 00:44:22.130 --> 00:44:23.470 Parish Clerk: and some of them you can. 587 00:44:23.470 --> 00:44:25.720 Roger Simonite: Just me. 588 00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:31.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's worth pointing out. Richard Roger. Sorry that 589 00:44:31.470 --> 00:44:40.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: this is how anybody using the web browser can see and act on parish online. So this public map is visible to all. 590 00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:49.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so what Richard is doing at the moment is what any user could do. Coming to your village website. 591 00:44:50.560 --> 00:44:52.579 Parish Clerk: So there's all the footpaths for our 592 00:44:52.610 --> 00:44:54.330 Parish Clerk: or public rights away in power. 593 00:44:55.185 --> 00:44:56.040 Roger Simonite: Yeah. 594 00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:59.860 Parish Clerk: Which you have under the Somerset County layers. If you. 595 00:44:59.860 --> 00:45:00.820 Roger Simonite: Everything. 596 00:45:01.150 --> 00:45:02.990 Parish Clerk: If you're in Somerset, which I believe you are. 597 00:45:02.990 --> 00:45:04.500 Roger Simonite: Believe you are. Yep. 598 00:45:05.140 --> 00:45:08.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Somebody's got an echo which is really upsetting the sound. 599 00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Who's just arrived, Chris? Is it your issue. 600 00:45:20.230 --> 00:45:22.930 Parish Clerk: The the blue area that now has appeared. 601 00:45:22.930 --> 00:45:23.600 Roger Simonite: There's a feature. 602 00:45:23.600 --> 00:45:25.990 Parish Clerk: I've turned on the RAM. So. 603 00:45:26.670 --> 00:45:27.290 Parish Clerk: layer. 604 00:45:27.700 --> 00:45:28.910 Mark Holder: Okay. Okay. 605 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:31.410 Roger Simonite: Okay, so. 606 00:45:31.410 --> 00:45:32.069 Parish Clerk: Any user. 607 00:45:32.070 --> 00:45:37.250 Roger Simonite: Public in public maps, and so anybody can see that. 608 00:45:37.740 --> 00:45:38.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well. 609 00:45:38.330 --> 00:45:38.760 Parish Clerk: Yes. 610 00:45:39.700 --> 00:45:41.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you created it. 611 00:45:42.220 --> 00:45:48.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If if Richard goes back, he'll show you that the system creates an address, a URL, 612 00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:52.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which you can then put into your village website. 613 00:45:53.260 --> 00:45:54.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: going to be published somewhere with. 614 00:45:54.740 --> 00:45:55.070 Roger Simonite: Anyway. 615 00:45:55.070 --> 00:45:57.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Either you. You can just send people the URL. 616 00:45:57.630 --> 00:45:58.640 Roger Simonite: The URL. 617 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:03.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or you can have it added to your website, and it's visible to everybody. Then. 618 00:46:04.130 --> 00:46:06.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So 2 choices under the 1st one. 619 00:46:06.900 --> 00:46:07.510 Roger Simonite: 1, st one. 620 00:46:07.510 --> 00:46:08.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Richard's on at the moment. 621 00:46:08.870 --> 00:46:09.870 Roger Simonite: Of the movement. 622 00:46:09.870 --> 00:46:10.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You go to URL. 623 00:46:10.970 --> 00:46:11.580 Roger Simonite: You already. 624 00:46:11.580 --> 00:46:13.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can send to anybody. 625 00:46:13.875 --> 00:46:14.560 Roger Simonite: Yeah. 626 00:46:14.560 --> 00:46:17.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the next line underneath the embed code line. 627 00:46:17.910 --> 00:46:25.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Send that to the web manager of your bridge website and he'll put that straight in, and then it'll come as part of the bridge website. 628 00:46:25.290 --> 00:46:27.820 Roger Simonite: Okay. Okay. 629 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.639 Parish Clerk: In the chat in the chat, Roger, you'll find the URL just hit it. 630 00:46:34.640 --> 00:46:35.779 Roger Simonite: So this is it. 631 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:37.900 Parish Clerk: And that will take you to that. 632 00:46:39.510 --> 00:46:40.240 Parish Clerk: That level. 633 00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:41.160 Roger Simonite: Level. 634 00:46:42.100 --> 00:46:43.920 Roger Simonite: Okay, I've just hit it. 635 00:46:44.300 --> 00:46:45.420 Roger Simonite: Let's see, here 636 00:46:48.530 --> 00:46:52.539 Roger Simonite: seem seem to be. Things are a little bit sort of 637 00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:56.740 Roger Simonite: nothing's working at the moment. I can't enlarge the 638 00:46:57.110 --> 00:47:03.680 Roger Simonite: page on the zoom, and I can't do anything to the 639 00:47:04.420 --> 00:47:08.330 Roger Simonite: parish online now. So we've gone. We've locked up again. 640 00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:09.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. 641 00:47:09.890 --> 00:47:14.099 Parish Clerk: When your Internet's better, when we've all gone. 642 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's not an Internet issue, because we can see and hear you quite clearly. 643 00:47:19.420 --> 00:47:25.559 Roger Simonite: Yeah, no, I I don't live in Chedsea. My Internet's alright so. But it. 644 00:47:26.250 --> 00:47:27.160 Mark Holder: Wish that she don't. 645 00:47:28.110 --> 00:47:33.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just say hello to Malcolm, who's popped in. It's very nice to see you, Malcolm. Good to see you there. 646 00:47:34.460 --> 00:47:38.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and there's a question from Mark in the chat. 647 00:47:38.790 --> 00:47:39.650 Roger Simonite: Chat. 648 00:47:42.730 --> 00:47:45.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the answer to your question is. 649 00:47:45.150 --> 00:47:45.730 Roger Simonite: Students. 650 00:47:45.730 --> 00:47:46.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not easily. 651 00:47:46.650 --> 00:47:47.660 Roger Simonite: Easily. 652 00:47:48.540 --> 00:47:49.650 Roger Simonite: the the. 653 00:47:49.650 --> 00:47:50.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The reason being. 654 00:47:50.560 --> 00:47:51.219 Roger Simonite: The reason being. 655 00:47:51.220 --> 00:47:55.209 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The gullies is a 3rd party layer supplied by a 3rd party 656 00:47:55.980 --> 00:48:00.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: organization. In this case highways and department. 657 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:00.850 Roger Simonite: Pardon me. 658 00:48:00.850 --> 00:48:03.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so you're not allowed to do anything with their data. 659 00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:04.770 Roger Simonite: Their data. 660 00:48:05.260 --> 00:48:08.459 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What you can do is try copying it to your own layer. 661 00:48:08.460 --> 00:48:09.490 Roger Simonite: Go over there. 662 00:48:09.762 --> 00:48:10.580 Mark Holder: Could I copy 663 00:48:11.779 --> 00:48:13.729 Mark Holder: events? Is my own feeling. 664 00:48:14.530 --> 00:48:16.099 Mark Holder: so that I could maintain. 665 00:48:17.750 --> 00:48:29.270 Mark Holder: did a great demonstration to me, because we've got an issue in with drains and gullies and flooding and whatnot. So this this mapping tool is, gonna be excellent for managing that 666 00:48:29.330 --> 00:48:45.490 Mark Holder: and and to save me a huge amount of time trying to build my own mapping capability, to be able to then obviously check against Somerset or highways that we've got. We've captured every drain because some of them are so blocked up. You don't even know they're there because they're just covered in mud and rubbish. 667 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:50.679 Mark Holder: So what we've then done is done our own inspection. So I want to then maintain a kind of a mirror 668 00:48:50.950 --> 00:48:54.680 Mark Holder: data set which I can then attach photographs like build 669 00:48:54.950 --> 00:49:05.570 Mark Holder: hotspots around where we get flooding issues, we can run our own inspection. So what you're saying is, I could copy that data into my own layer or something. Is that right? 670 00:49:06.270 --> 00:49:09.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm just going into here to check that 671 00:49:19.009 --> 00:49:32.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the answer to your question at the moment is, No, so within parish online, you do have the ability to copy data from one layer to another, providing that the. 672 00:49:32.100 --> 00:49:32.880 Mark Holder: Thank you. 673 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:34.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Originating there 674 00:49:35.680 --> 00:49:38.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: as being set up so that you can do that. 675 00:49:38.460 --> 00:49:41.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And in the case of Gully's it is not 676 00:49:41.340 --> 00:49:44.628 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but what you could do is work with 677 00:49:46.620 --> 00:49:52.509 Graham Stoddart-Stones: John, who's online at the moment and his request, he's got an open line to the Gis. 678 00:49:52.510 --> 00:49:53.200 Mark Holder: Department. 679 00:49:53.200 --> 00:49:54.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In Somerset Council. 680 00:49:54.880 --> 00:50:00.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they may very well agree to export the data in such a way that you can copy it. 681 00:50:01.230 --> 00:50:03.300 Mark Holder: That that would be. That would be excellent, John, if you. 682 00:50:03.300 --> 00:50:03.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 683 00:50:03.770 --> 00:50:10.399 Mark Holder: I mean the other the other way. Of course, the manual way would be because before I even knew about parish online. 684 00:50:10.590 --> 00:50:19.390 Mark Holder: I went and logged each drain. And I got a what 3 words on it I was, gonna build that in Google Maps. I was gonna build a spreadsheet. But bang it into a Gis tool myself. 685 00:50:19.600 --> 00:50:23.240 Mark Holder: I'm assuming what I could do whilst we were waiting for. 686 00:50:23.470 --> 00:50:26.519 Mark Holder: and maybe a response. Highways or the Council 687 00:50:26.540 --> 00:50:28.020 Mark Holder: is, I could 688 00:50:28.040 --> 00:50:30.899 Mark Holder: overlay on my own Chedsey map 689 00:50:31.020 --> 00:50:36.309 Mark Holder: on parish online my own drain locations. I could build my own 690 00:50:36.390 --> 00:50:38.570 Mark Holder: version of it. Couldn't I? I suppose. 691 00:50:38.570 --> 00:50:39.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. Yeah. 692 00:50:39.860 --> 00:50:57.699 Mark Holder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is actually, which is what one would. That's a bit more long winded, obviously. But it does mean I've got a a concise record then, and I can. I can. Then obviously, I mean, the ideal thing would be to to get the Geo. Coordinates of all of the the gullies and drains in in the parish 693 00:50:57.740 --> 00:51:01.189 Mark Holder: and copy it over. So is that John Roberts, who's the who's. 694 00:51:01.190 --> 00:51:01.960 John Roberts: Yeah. 695 00:51:02.250 --> 00:51:03.440 John Roberts: That's me. 696 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:05.390 Mark Holder: It would be great if you could ask that question. 697 00:51:07.970 --> 00:51:10.310 John Roberts: You're just talking about gullies at the moment. 698 00:51:10.550 --> 00:51:12.820 John Roberts: Could they export the data to you? 699 00:51:14.393 --> 00:51:15.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, no. 700 00:51:16.110 --> 00:51:18.350 Mark Holder: What you want, what you want. 701 00:51:18.850 --> 00:51:19.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The Gi 702 00:51:20.220 --> 00:51:24.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: are meant to do. John is export the data in such a way as it. You can use. 703 00:51:24.860 --> 00:51:25.500 Mark Holder: Okay, correct. 704 00:51:25.500 --> 00:51:26.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Extract tool. 705 00:51:26.260 --> 00:51:26.585 Mark Holder: Hello! 706 00:51:27.410 --> 00:51:28.080 John Roberts: Yeah. 707 00:51:28.190 --> 00:51:28.890 John Roberts: is it? 708 00:51:28.890 --> 00:51:37.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Moment. You can't use due to data extract on those gullies, but I think there is the option of exporting it in such a way that you can. 709 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but it's just that the Gis department hasn't done that yet. 710 00:51:44.270 --> 00:51:54.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's probably going to involve them talking with one of the engineers at geosphere, because I don't. I don't personally know what the settings are, but I just think it can be done. 711 00:51:55.850 --> 00:52:01.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: because if you go, for instance, to the addresses, you can certainly export all the address data. 712 00:52:04.350 --> 00:52:04.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 713 00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:06.250 John Roberts: Just looking at it. Sorry. 714 00:52:06.770 --> 00:52:07.500 Mark Holder: Yep. 715 00:52:08.220 --> 00:52:12.390 Parish Clerk: The gun is, you can get a table view so you can get your your excel out of it. 716 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:13.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 717 00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.149 Parish Clerk: Search for the for the parish. 718 00:52:16.570 --> 00:52:19.260 Parish Clerk: But no, you can't just copy it into another layer. 719 00:52:23.570 --> 00:52:27.429 John Roberts: No, no, you say the table view, but then you're gonna have to sort through to parish. 720 00:52:28.855 --> 00:52:29.270 Mark Holder: Oh! 721 00:52:29.270 --> 00:52:29.980 John Roberts: Horde, whichever. 722 00:52:29.980 --> 00:52:39.560 Mark Holder: Can if I create. Now, getting this is the 1st time actually logged on since I registered yesterday for the for the tool. So 723 00:52:39.590 --> 00:52:41.260 Mark Holder: other than Rogers. 724 00:52:41.290 --> 00:52:48.900 Mark Holder: Most excellent Demo! I'm 1st time I'll get my hands on it. Can I create if I, if I go in and create my my Chatsea layer? 725 00:52:48.930 --> 00:52:55.069 Mark Holder: Can I upload that? Can I upload a spreadsheet with coordinates into, or do I have to manually key them in. 726 00:52:58.440 --> 00:52:59.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You you. 727 00:52:59.255 --> 00:52:59.430 Mark Holder: Hi. 728 00:52:59.430 --> 00:53:05.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: At the moment in parish online. There is not the feature that permits us to import data. 729 00:53:05.380 --> 00:53:07.150 Mark Holder: Right? Okay, that's fine. 730 00:53:07.150 --> 00:53:07.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Everybody. 731 00:53:08.630 --> 00:53:12.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: particularly Andrew, would be absolutely enchanted if you sent him. 732 00:53:12.620 --> 00:53:15.940 Andrew Clegg: It'd be wonderful to use. 733 00:53:16.520 --> 00:53:17.709 Mark Holder: Needs to be able to. 734 00:53:18.620 --> 00:53:22.424 Mark Holder: I can see the smiles that question's been asked before. Then. 735 00:53:23.070 --> 00:53:28.129 John Roberts: Yeah, if you create your own layer, say for the gullies you're gonna have to put each gully in. 736 00:53:28.790 --> 00:53:29.890 John Roberts: But 737 00:53:30.632 --> 00:53:33.049 John Roberts: as you would any other layer. 738 00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:34.230 Mark Holder: Yeah, okay. 739 00:53:34.230 --> 00:53:34.715 John Roberts: So. 740 00:53:35.500 --> 00:53:38.010 John Roberts: And that depends how many gullies you've got. 741 00:53:38.820 --> 00:53:39.760 Mark Holder: 62. 742 00:53:41.060 --> 00:53:41.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The issue of. 743 00:53:42.980 --> 00:53:45.880 Parish Clerk: He hasn't got as many as as we think he should have. 744 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:46.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 745 00:53:46.904 --> 00:53:47.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No. 746 00:53:47.240 --> 00:53:51.610 Mark Holder: We're we're not a very big parish. We're not like, you know. We have. We've only got one, Poopy. 747 00:53:52.270 --> 00:53:55.389 Parish Clerk: No, no, the story's got loads of pillies. 748 00:53:57.030 --> 00:53:59.300 Mark Holder: Oh, Roger's got loads of poop in. 749 00:54:01.630 --> 00:54:13.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you you can catch the people at geosphere on a good day, they've obviously got all the data sitting at their end. They can export it into your parish. Just your data for you. 750 00:54:13.420 --> 00:54:13.870 Mark Holder: Yeah. 751 00:54:13.870 --> 00:54:14.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're feeling 752 00:54:14.910 --> 00:54:17.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: inclined. So it's worth making the request. 753 00:54:19.050 --> 00:54:23.509 Mark Holder: Yeah, so so do I make. Do I make that request, or do. 754 00:54:23.510 --> 00:54:24.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh yes, yes. 755 00:54:24.950 --> 00:54:28.300 Mark Holder: So who would I talk to to make that 756 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:29.580 Mark Holder: sweet talking with. 757 00:54:29.580 --> 00:54:34.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just just send an email to support@geosphere.com. 758 00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:37.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which has the effect of creating a ticket. 759 00:54:37.700 --> 00:54:40.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they're pretty good at answering the tickets. 760 00:54:40.450 --> 00:54:41.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bye. 761 00:54:41.010 --> 00:54:44.840 Mark Holder: So can you put that in the in the chat that. 762 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:45.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, boy! 763 00:54:45.370 --> 00:54:46.759 Mark Holder: Be brilliant. Thank you. 764 00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:57.310 Mark Holder: Thank you. Okay. So if I if I write them a nice mail 765 00:54:58.040 --> 00:55:01.760 Mark Holder: and sort of say I'm a poor old counselor in Cheddjoy, you know. 766 00:55:02.070 --> 00:55:02.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. 767 00:55:02.980 --> 00:55:05.571 Mark Holder: Life's life's hard in shedzoy. 768 00:55:06.090 --> 00:55:14.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's it's worth mentioning. Mark that. Because you're in Somerset. All the gully is given to you, because not not every council does that. 769 00:55:14.770 --> 00:55:18.200 Mark Holder: It does. Yeah, okay. 770 00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:27.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. I'm honour bound now to say good afternoon to Chris. How nice to have you sit with us and feel free to head with your very absorbing questions. 771 00:55:27.700 --> 00:55:28.810 chris edwards: Okay. 772 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:33.410 chris edwards: so may I share my screen with you? 773 00:55:34.082 --> 00:55:35.379 chris edwards: Where is it? 774 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:39.910 chris edwards: There we are. Now 775 00:55:40.430 --> 00:55:44.719 chris edwards: shield your eyes from what you're looking at at the moment. 776 00:55:44.740 --> 00:55:49.639 chris edwards: because I use the annotation tool a huge amount. 777 00:55:50.430 --> 00:55:54.069 chris edwards: But what I've come across in the last month 778 00:55:54.510 --> 00:55:57.760 chris edwards: is that whenever I put in a new annotation. 779 00:55:58.930 --> 00:56:01.569 chris edwards: it automatically is duplicated. 780 00:56:02.340 --> 00:56:05.539 chris edwards: So I have to spend ages to try and 781 00:56:05.650 --> 00:56:11.369 chris edwards: delete the duplications. This one is an example, public right of way. 782 00:56:12.010 --> 00:56:16.959 chris edwards: I put it in once, and hey, presto! It appears twice. 783 00:56:17.600 --> 00:56:20.589 chris edwards: Same down here, flooding potential. 784 00:56:20.600 --> 00:56:22.965 chris edwards: So I wrote a ticket to 785 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:24.550 chris edwards: parish online. 786 00:56:25.230 --> 00:56:27.430 chris edwards: Got a very quick reply, saying. 787 00:56:27.490 --> 00:56:34.089 chris edwards: they acknowledge the duplications, but they haven't got a fix for it yet. 788 00:56:34.570 --> 00:56:38.530 chris edwards: But my question is, has anybody on our chat group 789 00:56:39.140 --> 00:56:41.660 chris edwards: had this had the same experience 790 00:56:41.990 --> 00:56:43.880 chris edwards: of these duplications. 791 00:56:47.100 --> 00:56:52.765 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We're all good citizens, and so we don't use annotate for any other purposes. 792 00:56:53.310 --> 00:56:53.870 chris edwards: Okay. 793 00:56:54.830 --> 00:57:02.459 chris edwards: Alright. Then I shall obviously keep the pressure on parish online to them to come up with a fix for this. Then. 794 00:57:03.660 --> 00:57:05.329 Stuart Bacon: I've never experienced it before. 795 00:57:05.690 --> 00:57:07.249 Stuart Bacon: Just done a test. Now. 796 00:57:07.830 --> 00:57:08.310 chris edwards: Yes. 797 00:57:08.667 --> 00:57:10.809 Stuart Bacon: And I've got the same issue. 798 00:57:11.332 --> 00:57:12.377 Mark Holder: Cool, too. 799 00:57:12.900 --> 00:57:14.510 chris edwards: Oh, thank you for that, Stuart. 800 00:57:15.340 --> 00:57:17.720 chris edwards: When I when I go back to parish online. 801 00:57:18.117 --> 00:57:19.310 Mark Holder: This is apple. 802 00:57:19.310 --> 00:57:20.890 chris edwards: Across the board. 803 00:57:21.090 --> 00:57:23.380 chris edwards: Yeah, thank you for that. 804 00:57:25.010 --> 00:57:29.019 chris edwards: Right, let's finish with annotations. I'll get rid of that. 805 00:57:30.821 --> 00:57:33.540 chris edwards: Now, the so the next question is to do with 806 00:57:33.560 --> 00:57:36.370 chris edwards: not not necessarily to do with parish online. 807 00:57:37.787 --> 00:57:44.940 chris edwards: What I want to do is that in in this area of my parish. We've got 4 new housing estates. 808 00:57:45.185 --> 00:57:45.430 Mark Holder: Right. 809 00:57:45.430 --> 00:57:48.269 chris edwards: About 350 new homes. 810 00:57:49.930 --> 00:57:58.340 chris edwards: the the census data from 2,021 is now well out of date. 811 00:57:58.740 --> 00:58:04.670 chris edwards: and what I'd like to do is try and drill down into Somerset Council 812 00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:09.920 chris edwards: to find out what the what the new number is in terms of 813 00:58:10.766 --> 00:58:13.310 chris edwards: parishioners, and also of 814 00:58:13.550 --> 00:58:16.179 chris edwards: residences in my parish. 815 00:58:16.580 --> 00:58:18.460 chris edwards: Now, what I have 816 00:58:18.530 --> 00:58:20.857 chris edwards: got I'll have to 817 00:58:22.250 --> 00:58:24.829 chris edwards: Just bear with me a second. 818 00:58:28.620 --> 00:58:30.840 chris edwards: This is going to be a bit long winded. 819 00:58:32.080 --> 00:58:33.949 chris edwards: If I show you 820 00:58:36.060 --> 00:58:38.860 chris edwards: the information I've got on my parish. 821 00:58:39.080 --> 00:58:40.629 chris edwards: I'm searching for it. 822 00:58:41.050 --> 00:58:43.060 chris edwards: Wait a minute, wait a minute. 823 00:58:43.060 --> 00:58:47.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's certainly an attachment in the email you sent to me, Chris. 824 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:48.500 chris edwards: Yes. 825 00:58:48.500 --> 00:58:49.939 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's the way of finding it. 826 00:58:49.940 --> 00:58:50.560 chris edwards: I 827 00:58:52.790 --> 00:58:53.680 chris edwards: blast. 828 00:58:53.830 --> 00:58:55.709 chris edwards: I had it here a moment ago. 829 00:58:57.290 --> 00:58:58.640 chris edwards: It showed 830 00:58:58.940 --> 00:59:02.650 chris edwards: the number of properties in our parish. 831 00:59:02.650 --> 00:59:05.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's it's it was there on the right hand column. 832 00:59:06.140 --> 00:59:08.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go down a bit or up a bit, whichever way you were heading. 833 00:59:10.240 --> 00:59:15.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Isn't that it there middle middle row, middle. Oh, you jumped it. 834 00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:19.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that one! It will stop. 835 00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:21.160 chris edwards: No. 836 00:59:21.460 --> 00:59:24.469 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Apc. 2021. I think that's it. 837 00:59:24.470 --> 00:59:27.729 chris edwards: Yeah, that's right. I'm I'm looking for it right now. Now it's 838 00:59:27.750 --> 00:59:29.380 chris edwards: dumb things gone. 839 00:59:29.530 --> 00:59:32.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No? Well, we I can see it on your screen. So. 840 00:59:32.550 --> 00:59:33.410 chris edwards: Really. 841 00:59:33.410 --> 00:59:34.005 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes. 842 00:59:35.810 --> 00:59:37.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so scroll down a little bit 843 00:59:38.710 --> 00:59:39.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: gently. 844 00:59:40.210 --> 00:59:40.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then 845 00:59:43.050 --> 00:59:47.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: maybe you need to scroll. There it is, so it's in the bottom right hand corner. At the moment. 846 00:59:48.040 --> 00:59:50.349 chris edwards: No, it's not on my, it's not on my screen. 847 00:59:50.350 --> 00:59:56.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Will you move your arrow one bit further? Right, Chris, or are you limited by something? Is that your most right-hand side. 848 00:59:56.560 --> 00:59:58.150 chris edwards: Hang on! Let me get rid of. 849 00:59:58.830 --> 00:59:59.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, bet! 850 00:59:59.410 --> 01:00:00.190 chris edwards: There we are! 851 01:00:00.190 --> 01:00:00.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 852 01:00:03.180 --> 01:00:08.639 chris edwards: So you can see here 2,021, the census. 853 01:00:08.910 --> 01:00:10.240 chris edwards: my parish 854 01:00:10.540 --> 01:00:15.109 chris edwards: population of 1,200 number of households, 560. 855 01:00:15.190 --> 01:00:17.009 chris edwards: Well, since that date. 856 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.880 chris edwards: obviously the number of households has got. This is shot up. 857 01:00:21.670 --> 01:00:27.490 chris edwards: But I what I'm trying to do is get hold of the information from my County Council. 858 01:00:28.450 --> 01:00:34.100 chris edwards: Would you be able to give me any indication of who which department I would approach 859 01:00:34.690 --> 01:00:36.360 chris edwards: to update my 860 01:00:36.670 --> 01:00:37.610 chris edwards: data. 861 01:00:41.130 --> 01:00:42.429 chris edwards: any any 862 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:44.340 chris edwards: suggestions 863 01:00:46.600 --> 01:00:52.031 chris edwards: rather than wait for the next census, which is just gonna be years away. 864 01:00:53.490 --> 01:00:56.780 chris edwards: How do I get rid of the screen right now? 865 01:01:03.310 --> 01:01:10.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I would go along the bottom and just select whatever tool you want to go back to. You want to go back to your browser, or you want to go back to non sharing? 866 01:01:16.680 --> 01:01:19.999 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is there a department of population or something like that? 867 01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:24.020 Stuart Bacon: Effectively what you would need, Chris. Your 868 01:01:24.220 --> 01:01:24.830 Stuart Bacon: oh. 869 01:01:25.850 --> 01:01:28.690 Stuart Bacon: to the Electoral Services Department. 870 01:01:28.690 --> 01:01:31.160 chris edwards: So I can't hear you, Stuart. 871 01:01:31.160 --> 01:01:32.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know you disappeared again. 872 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:33.700 Stuart Bacon: You're cool. 873 01:01:33.700 --> 01:01:36.299 Parish Clerk: About the Electoral Service Department. 874 01:01:36.300 --> 01:01:37.370 chris edwards: Oh, right! 875 01:01:37.860 --> 01:01:46.619 Stuart Bacon: Your clerk will need to speak to electoral services at your district council, where they will be able to sort of send a copy of 876 01:01:47.436 --> 01:01:50.140 Stuart Bacon: the electoral role for 877 01:01:50.210 --> 01:01:52.850 Stuart Bacon: your sort of parish as a 878 01:01:52.930 --> 01:02:00.710 Stuart Bacon: as a whole, and they will also be able to tell you sort of the the number of properties that exist within your parish. 879 01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:04.000 chris edwards: Oh, right? Okay. Well, thanks for that, Stuart. 880 01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:05.750 chris edwards: Yeah. 881 01:02:05.930 --> 01:02:11.200 Parish Clerk: The only. The only problem with that is is that not not everybody appears on the electoral roll. Of course. 882 01:02:12.730 --> 01:02:19.540 Parish Clerk: so it will be. It will probably be as rough. It will be a roughest guide as as your census material from 21. 883 01:02:19.540 --> 01:02:19.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep. 884 01:02:19.910 --> 01:02:20.859 chris edwards: Oh, I see! 885 01:02:21.240 --> 01:02:33.350 Stuart Bacon: The benefit that going through them is at least they know who, even though they won't be included on the electoral roll, they will have a total number of properties in the 886 01:02:33.520 --> 01:02:34.620 Stuart Bacon: parish 887 01:02:34.940 --> 01:02:37.931 Stuart Bacon: that you can sort of. 888 01:02:38.660 --> 01:02:39.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Extrapolate from. 889 01:02:39.670 --> 01:02:46.489 Stuart Bacon: Extract the data from, because they'll know what properties that aren't paying council tax, and whatever as well. So. 890 01:02:46.490 --> 01:02:47.170 chris edwards: Oh, I see! 891 01:02:47.170 --> 01:02:50.120 Stuart Bacon: On the electric roll and doing. 892 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:53.609 chris edwards: Yup. Yup, okay, that's fine. Thank you very much for that. 893 01:02:53.720 --> 01:02:54.906 chris edwards: Before I 894 01:02:55.970 --> 01:02:57.450 chris edwards: stop sharing. 895 01:02:58.050 --> 01:02:59.540 chris edwards: I suppose. 896 01:03:00.390 --> 01:03:02.270 chris edwards: Here, here are my gullies. 897 01:03:03.339 --> 01:03:08.720 chris edwards: I know I I was late joining the meeting, but did 898 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:12.207 chris edwards: 1 1 of the 899 01:03:13.340 --> 01:03:16.459 chris edwards: people asking about gullies? Has he seen this. 900 01:03:16.590 --> 01:03:17.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh yes! 901 01:03:17.620 --> 01:03:19.420 chris edwards: Oh, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. 902 01:03:19.420 --> 01:03:26.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thanks, Chris. Now we were interested in how you'd export that data into your own layer, so you can start adding status and other 903 01:03:26.510 --> 01:03:28.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: points about each gully. 904 01:03:28.650 --> 01:03:29.490 chris edwards: Lovely. 905 01:03:29.490 --> 01:03:30.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And we'll. 906 01:03:32.220 --> 01:03:35.100 chris edwards: Graham, can I squeeze in 1? 1 more question 907 01:03:35.575 --> 01:03:43.410 chris edwards: you record the sessions and you can get them played back, which I thought was on Youtube. 908 01:03:43.460 --> 01:03:49.010 chris edwards: But am I right in thinking that if you click on our wiki 909 01:03:49.030 --> 01:03:52.709 chris edwards: you can go go through git book. Is that correct? 910 01:03:53.690 --> 01:04:01.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, but you should be able to just go into it directly. You don't need to go into get book, but it is published on get book, if that's what you're asking. 911 01:04:01.990 --> 01:04:04.439 chris edwards: Well, I I clicked on your link. 912 01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:08.320 chris edwards: and it wanted me to set up an account with Gate. 913 01:04:08.664 --> 01:04:17.625 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're not the only person that's complained. Something went wrong in that. Let me put the address in the the chat for you, Chris. 914 01:04:18.210 --> 01:04:19.639 chris edwards: Okay, fine. Thank you very much. 915 01:04:20.490 --> 01:04:22.469 John Roberts: In regards to the 916 01:04:22.500 --> 01:04:26.389 John Roberts: Somerset layers. The email to Adam Reimer has now been sent. 917 01:04:26.470 --> 01:04:30.030 John Roberts: I'll let you know when I get if if and when I get an answer. 918 01:04:30.140 --> 01:04:30.990 John Roberts: oh, Christ! 919 01:04:31.379 --> 01:04:32.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well done! 920 01:04:38.930 --> 01:04:49.209 Roger Simonite: Just a question, Graham, in these gullies. Not that they seem to bother me as much as other people, because we're quite high up here. But 921 01:04:49.550 --> 01:04:53.770 Roger Simonite: is, is there any progression in the sense of? 922 01:04:53.910 --> 01:05:04.790 Roger Simonite: And we've got? We've got parishioners who clearly are concerned. And and they're having to create their own status is, is there any way in which 923 01:05:04.820 --> 01:05:08.279 Roger Simonite: it they can be approached? Such that 924 01:05:08.750 --> 01:05:34.370 Roger Simonite: we could share the the information, ie. The people, on the ground that are closest to it could maybe update it, you know, given extra functionality, such that they they could see. I note on the grip bins, for instance. You, which is collaborative one where you can effectively put it's it's 20% full. It's 60% full. 925 01:05:34.470 --> 01:05:44.600 Roger Simonite: And and arguably, I would hope. Then the the District Council would then look at that, and and that could be sufficient for them to go and fill them up. 926 01:05:45.220 --> 01:05:50.989 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think that was certainly the intent of geosphere when they put that facility in there. 927 01:05:51.130 --> 01:05:53.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But the the number of 928 01:05:53.370 --> 01:06:02.729 Graham Stoddart-Stones: councils that have agreed to have their data updated from parish online, I think, is countable on the fingers of one hand. I think. 929 01:06:02.730 --> 01:06:03.060 Roger Simonite: Right. 930 01:06:03.060 --> 01:06:14.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's something we'd love to promote because it makes so much more sense. The other obvious. One is footpaths, because the locals know where the footpaths vary from what the 931 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:24.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: County Council thinks they are. But we've got an example in Long Sutton of a foot bath going straight across what is now a lake, and clearly it doesn't go across the lake any longer, so 932 01:06:24.910 --> 01:06:28.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: we'd like to be able to get them to update their maps from ours. 933 01:06:29.506 --> 01:06:36.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But that that's that's the ideal that we're sort of trying to head towards. But it's it has happened but rarely. 934 01:06:37.410 --> 01:06:40.139 Roger Simonite: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm trying to understand. 935 01:06:40.170 --> 01:06:56.920 Roger Simonite: Trying to engage with the the District Council, as I refer to them, is is quite difficult they they are quite reluctant, a lot of them, to actually talk to you. But you know I the whole scenario with the bins. 936 01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:19.030 Roger Simonite: They they came back with a spreadsheet, saying, These are the bins. And these are the what 3 words. So they weren't using parish online or anything like it. And I just quite surprised as to whether there's an education going on here is the same sort of education going on with the the district councils. 937 01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:24.452 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lord, no, that would be common sense, that'd be stupid. 938 01:07:24.950 --> 01:07:38.909 Andrew Clegg: We? We've had the what 3 words thing as well from from from Somerset. They told us that we got 24 bins, and we'd only got 22. We don't, we don't. We don't. We've got 2 missing dog poo bins. 939 01:07:39.180 --> 01:07:40.600 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah. 940 01:07:40.600 --> 01:07:49.260 Roger Simonite: And we had the same where we ended up with one less than than they'd stated. But they were, you know. Somebody had gone to the trouble. 941 01:07:49.260 --> 01:07:49.690 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. 942 01:07:49.690 --> 01:08:03.279 Roger Simonite: Going around and doing quite a lot of detailed work to identify them. But it just seems to be that they're still using steam rather than going up with the data technology. Really. 943 01:08:04.080 --> 01:08:06.030 Parish Clerk: You want to be in West Somerset. 944 01:08:06.930 --> 01:08:08.350 Andrew Clegg: Part of the call. 945 01:08:10.200 --> 01:08:13.940 John Roberts: apart apart from West Somerset, which is still using a slate and a hammer. 946 01:08:14.490 --> 01:08:18.310 Parish Clerk: No, it's a fag, it's a fag packet and a pencil. 947 01:08:19.890 --> 01:08:25.630 John Roberts: You'll find that majority of these councils are very reluctant to change 948 01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:29.269 John Roberts: their attitude. Is this is the way we've always done it. 949 01:08:33.109 --> 01:08:36.890 John Roberts: I've been a counselor now for 19 years, and it's never been any different. 950 01:08:38.140 --> 01:08:38.990 Roger Simonite: Let's encourage. 951 01:08:38.990 --> 01:08:44.066 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's also it's very, very variable, Roger. So that 952 01:08:44.939 --> 01:08:46.689 Graham Stoddart-Stones: When I 1st arrived 953 01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:53.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: on the digital mapping scene, which was about 6 years ago I was reading a 954 01:08:53.430 --> 01:09:09.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: report from South Somerset District Council, who were very keen to update themselves, and that somebody had written a brilliant report that basically stated in no uncertain terms. The It department here is not fit for purpose. 955 01:09:09.590 --> 01:09:18.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they basically decided to scrap everything that they had start again where they stated that the purpose of the it department is to serve 956 01:09:18.810 --> 01:09:24.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the Council and the Council's clients, which, of course, are parishes amongst other things. 957 01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:31.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and they rewrote it so that it did do that. And South Somerset was notable for choosing their 958 01:09:31.420 --> 01:09:38.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Gis to be ex map, which is the big brother of parish online. And you can certainly see the difference that 959 01:09:39.240 --> 01:09:43.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: there are 90 layers of data exported by South Somerset 960 01:09:44.109 --> 01:09:47.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: compared to the 0 supplied by West Somerset. 961 01:09:48.120 --> 01:09:49.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and 962 01:09:49.220 --> 01:09:59.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then 3 or 4 from so Sedgemore, or Mendip, or other ones along the way. So it's very much much depending upon the culture that is being 963 01:09:59.770 --> 01:10:05.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: engendered within the local council, and that's down to how enlightened the boss is. I think. 964 01:10:06.770 --> 01:10:07.840 Roger Simonite: Well, it's somebody. 965 01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:20.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Last time I said it had a vision for going forward which I thought was pretty good. I think it's bold to say that this is not fit for purpose, and they actually said that in the formal official report which I thought was marvelous. 966 01:10:20.900 --> 01:10:33.119 Roger Simonite: Well, that's encouraging that. At least I'm in South Somerset, so maybe I can do some more work, and we've started to engage with a few people now that 967 01:10:33.120 --> 01:11:00.350 Roger Simonite: previously they've just kept us at arm's length. And now they're realizing that with devolution that actually they might want to talk to us a bit more in the case of us doing service level agreements, and just that. So I hope that as we go forward and it's good to to listen to you all, to see the different views as to within the different districts, because. 968 01:11:00.878 --> 01:11:05.969 Roger Simonite: it, it is it is interesting to understand how we're going to go forward. Really. 969 01:11:07.272 --> 01:11:09.679 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So many last students. 970 01:11:10.240 --> 01:11:13.490 John Roberts: Adam Adam Reimer. Who's the guy we're talking to? 971 01:11:13.740 --> 01:11:17.780 John Roberts: We're fortunate in respect. He is ex South Somerset 972 01:11:18.430 --> 01:11:19.250 John Roberts: right. 973 01:11:19.250 --> 01:11:20.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's mended, isn't it? 974 01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:21.580 Malcolm Daniels: Manager. Yeah. 975 01:11:21.830 --> 01:11:22.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Amended. 976 01:11:22.230 --> 01:11:25.219 John Roberts: Sorry one. His his boss is Ex. 977 01:11:25.530 --> 01:11:28.869 John Roberts: who's on maternity leave, is ex south. Somerset. 978 01:11:28.870 --> 01:11:29.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Addison. 979 01:11:29.490 --> 01:11:30.130 John Roberts: Sorry. 980 01:11:30.130 --> 01:11:30.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 981 01:11:30.550 --> 01:11:35.299 John Roberts: Yeah, Alison. Adam is mended. He's got 2 colleagues, which 982 01:11:35.820 --> 01:11:38.569 John Roberts: one of which is mended. I'm not sure where the other one comes from 983 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:40.050 John Roberts: there. 984 01:11:40.530 --> 01:11:47.750 John Roberts: Very good in talking to us. They're very good in listening, and they have a genuine desire to sort things out. 985 01:11:48.910 --> 01:11:56.440 John Roberts: It's when it leaves them. It's the problems. Then start because they've got to get the data from the people who are holding it. 986 01:11:57.330 --> 01:12:00.049 John Roberts: And that's not always forthcoming. 987 01:12:01.040 --> 01:12:02.260 John Roberts: Do you think that. 988 01:12:02.260 --> 01:12:03.710 Roger Simonite: Knowledge, is power. 989 01:12:04.360 --> 01:12:06.160 John Roberts: Yes, basically. Yes. 990 01:12:06.672 --> 01:12:10.549 John Roberts: but also at the present time you've got to remember that 991 01:12:10.990 --> 01:12:16.509 John Roberts: the whole, the whole of the county structure is going through consultancy on redundancy. 992 01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:17.720 John Roberts: Yeah. 993 01:12:18.200 --> 01:12:21.359 John Roberts: So people are reluctant to 994 01:12:22.040 --> 01:12:25.119 John Roberts: make waves. They're reluctant to make decisions. 995 01:12:25.580 --> 01:12:31.209 John Roberts: And, to be frank, there are a number of them who don't even know if they're going to have a job at the end of October. 996 01:12:31.790 --> 01:12:32.870 Roger Simonite: Hmm, hmm. 997 01:12:32.870 --> 01:12:35.979 John Roberts: So at the moment. Now isn't a good time to 998 01:12:36.400 --> 01:12:39.260 John Roberts: to to try and get information from people. 999 01:12:39.690 --> 01:12:43.969 John Roberts: But yeah, we have got people within Somerset who are willing to help want to help. 1000 01:12:44.530 --> 01:12:46.650 John Roberts: They're not all charred with the same brush. 1001 01:12:47.410 --> 01:12:51.009 Roger Simonite: Have you come across a chap called Julian Grant? 1002 01:12:52.610 --> 01:12:53.780 John Roberts: Only by 1003 01:12:54.370 --> 01:12:56.319 John Roberts: people talking about him. I've never met him. 1004 01:12:56.990 --> 01:13:01.280 Roger Simonite: No? Well, I was fortunate enough. He came to speak to me. 1005 01:13:01.290 --> 01:13:07.989 Roger Simonite: which it wasn't me prompting it. He wanted to talk to me. He's taken over from 1006 01:13:08.180 --> 01:13:28.929 Roger Simonite: Steve Fox, who was the open space manager prior. But he's retired, and and it was. It was very encouraging in terms of him wanting to work with us and the people who now work for him and trying to get them more engaged, so there might be opportunity in the future. 1007 01:13:30.710 --> 01:13:32.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is he very young, Roger? 1008 01:13:33.253 --> 01:13:47.699 Roger Simonite: I wouldn't have said that young. He's probably he's probably I don't know mid forties or something like that, but he's he's from Taunton Dean. He's had this role of of one form or another for the past year and a half. 1009 01:13:47.790 --> 01:14:02.990 Roger Simonite: and he's sort of based around Taunton area. But this this now he covers the the Yeovil district as well. So likes of the martok, and people like that must all be dealing with the same person. Really, now. 1010 01:14:04.280 --> 01:14:07.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I need to correct you. 40 is very young. 1011 01:14:09.140 --> 01:14:16.160 Roger Simonite: Okay. Then he was very young. 1012 01:14:16.160 --> 01:14:17.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright, gentlemen! 1013 01:14:18.180 --> 01:14:24.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And we are all gentlemen now. No ladies present. Are there any other questions that people would like asked or answered? 1014 01:14:25.470 --> 01:14:33.119 John Roberts: No, I'm I'm gonna say goodbye and wish you all a happy weekend hopefully. See you next week. 1015 01:14:33.390 --> 01:14:34.230 John Roberts: Yeah. 1016 01:14:34.230 --> 01:14:34.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thanks you. 1017 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:39.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: hey? Care! Oh, Roger Robinson has really got a star. 1018 01:14:40.180 --> 01:14:40.580 Andrew Clegg: Like. 1019 01:14:40.580 --> 01:14:41.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Take care! 1020 01:14:41.120 --> 01:14:43.759 Parish Clerk: Share his share his screen, though. 1021 01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:48.000 Roger Robinson: Eliminating. 1022 01:14:49.580 --> 01:14:51.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Take care. Bye, bye. Thank you. 1023 01:14:51.630 --> 01:14:53.120 Roger Simonite: Bye, bye.

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