Training, Printing, Managing Layers, National Layers - Parish Data, getting council (unitary/county/district) data layers into Parish Online, Commons, Bins, Moving records from one layer to another
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00:00 - 00.38 Printing to specific scale
04:32 - 09:25 Managing Layers in Parish Online
09:25 - 15:00 National Layers for Parish data
16:27 - 17.03 Training available
17:03 - 28:00 Getting council (unitary/county/district) data layers into Parish Online
28:00 - 31.30 Common land - Natural England Access layers
31:30 - 39:00 Banter
39:00 - 47:00 Dog bins and waste bins, and attachments to layers
47:00 - 52:00 Moving records from one layer to another
00:27:12 Stuart Bacon: Tristram, can you explain a bit more about giving free Parish Online to CALC's? Have they got any details of who has a subscription or not? What is the expectation of CALC's to use Parish Online?
00:27:51 Helen Davey: Reacted to "Tristram, can you ex..." with 👍🏻
00:28:41 Stuart Bacon: So will CALC layers filter to parishes in their area?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon, Judith.
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Judith Mashiter: Hello, there, Graham.
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Judith Mashiter: Yeah. But, Marvin.
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Judith Mashiter: I'll get my camera working somehow.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It gives you a most interesting view.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: sort of not quite totally black, just a charcoal grey.
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Judith Mashiter: Oh, oh, well, I I'm seeing. Yes, but.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very, very.
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Judith Mashiter: I was on a meeting yesterday on teams, and the camera was working
perfectly fine, so I don't know what my problem is.
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Judith Mashiter: Well.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It might hydrate.
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tristram cary: So Graham.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon. To you.
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tristram cary: Good afternoon.
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tristram cary: Yep.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hi. Jordan.
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John Roberts: Hi.
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tristram cary: Hi John.
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John Roberts: Hi! Hi! Everybody!
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John Roberts: What.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Richard tells me he is.
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tristram cary: Looks up my nerves.
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tristram cary: Hmm!
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tristram cary: Perfect!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: One of the one of the great treats that we look forward to
every Friday.
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John Roberts: You started to say, Richard tells you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: 1st of October is theoretically his final day.
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John Roberts: It is.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Wow!
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John Roberts: Apparently.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hazel, you made it well done.
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Helen Davey: I know.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, nice to see you.
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Helen Davey: I missed you all.
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Helen Davey: I've forgotten a lot as well.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that's the issue, isn't it, that not using it all the
time? It's.
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Helen Davey: When you're only doing certain things, other things get sort of put to
one side, and then oh, dear!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
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Helen Davey: Lovely to see you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You got lots of sunshine by the look of it.
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Helen Davey: We've got
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Helen Davey: a sunny, cloudy day. Quite nice.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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Helen Davey: Bit cooler, thank goodness!
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Helen Davey: Are you all all right?
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John Roberts: Yes, thank you. Yeah.
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tristram cary: Yes, thank you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'll say good afternoon to Claire, just in case she can
hear us, or I don't see anybody yet.
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John Roberts: And you've got Judith there as well.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Judith and I have exchanged conversations.
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Judith Mashiter: Yeah, but I'm invisible.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And.
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Helen Davey: Big.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: All is with us. Good day. But now.
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Welcome Back: Afternoon welcome back.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You.
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Helen Davey: Mister.
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Cllr Stuart Withington Dunmow, Essex: Hello!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And whilst I remember it next week we have the treats,
probably the treat of having Angie back.
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Helen Davey: Hello!
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tristram cary: That.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So we can find out if anything is happening to Hs 2, or
whether it's gonna die in the.
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Helen Davey: Donald.
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Claire Mortimer: Panel
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Claire Mortimer: system. Yeah, it's
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Claire Mortimer: shut up.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well rather than wait for anybody else who may be joining us.
Let's just move swiftly. Oh, Lord, sorry about that!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm about to be attacked. Clearly somebody is protecting me.
Good afternoon. One and all. Nice to see you all again. All those I can see, and
let me go ahead with the usual question, is anybody joined who has a question?
They'd really like to have answered about parish online?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nope.
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Helen Davey: No, not at the moment.
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Judith Mashiter: I did, but it might be difficult without seeing me.
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Judith Mashiter: No. Can I? Can I fire the question and see.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
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Judith Mashiter: I'm
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Judith Mashiter: preparing a funding application, and I'm required to produce a
plan to a scale of either one to 1, 2, 5, or one to 2 5 0.
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Judith Mashiter: Can I very quickly set parish online to show me a plan at that scale?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, you do it through the through the print. Menu Claire.
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Judith Mashiter: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go into print, are you? Are you able to see parish
online at the moment.
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Judith Mashiter: I am. Yes, I don't know. Would would my screen sharing work.
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Claire Mortimer: Which is more like.
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Judith Mashiter: And.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Worth a try.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that works.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay. So I'm looking at
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go up to print up in the top.
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Claire Mortimer: It's not too.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you see where it says best fit. One in 5,000.
You can choose whatever you like. There.
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Judith Mashiter: Hey!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if they said you could have it in one is 2,500.
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Helen Davey: You know.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: click on the print button down the bottom.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It'll show you what it's going to look like.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: that's unusual.
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John Roberts: No click on the link.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, but I'm surprised it didn't show you before we
started what it was going to look like.
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Judith Mashiter: I see. Okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's the scale you want. If you look in the middle of
the top bar, it gives you the scale there to.
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Judith Mashiter: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whoever is viewing this will see that you have come up with
the scale that they asked for.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay, all right, or I could go back and see the larger scale.
So then I'd print again.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're right? Yeah.
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John Roberts: Mine has never given a preview, Graham. It always goes to the link.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, have you got a special underprivileged there?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Your version is sort of carefully doctored, so.
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John Roberts: Nope.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No.
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tristram cary: Well.
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Judith Mashiter: Mine must be as well then. But thank you that that's very simply
answered my question before I stop screen sharing, though can I? Show you a picture.
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Judith Mashiter: just because the last time I was on
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Judith Mashiter: months ago I was asking about printing out on an A0 size
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Judith Mashiter: scale, a map. And can you see a photograph.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You you did.
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tristram cary: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adam.
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Judith Mashiter: From our annual parish meeting. There's a parish online, large scale.
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Judith Mashiter: large format print.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Isn't this.
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tristram cary: Nobody.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's great.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So did you just take the the Pdf. Or the Png file from and and
take it over to the A0 Plotter or printer.
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Judith Mashiter: The
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Judith Mashiter: but yes, I sent it to a a print shop to to from the Pdf, yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, that's tremendous!
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Judith Mashiter: I mean it wasn't. It wasn't crystal clear, but it certainly served
the purpose.
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Judith Mashiter: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, thank you for sharing.
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Judith Mashiter: Advice with that. So.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, no, I'm delighted. It worked. Isn't that great?
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Judith Mashiter: Thank you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, Judith, when you come and ask questions like this, you
can't get away with asking just one.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Has to be more in your life than than 0 questions for
Parish Online. So if you don't have anything immediately to hand, please think about it
whilst I say good afternoon to Stuart and to
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bob. Good day, both.
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Bob Grainger: Good evening, good afternoon. All.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I see you have it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: All well in in your world, Bob.
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Bob Grainger: No! My knee is still not healing. No.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think you need better, right?
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Bob Grainger: I'm not getting any better, and because of that I'll be ducking out
about half past 2. But I'm here, for
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Bob Grainger: I'm here for the start of the session.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, well, I'll just switch up to
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Judith, as you just been acting. How about Claire, Claire?
Do you have any questions for us?
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Claire Mortimer: I don't know. Can you hear me?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, like.
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Claire Mortimer: Oh, that's okay. As long as you can hear me, I'm having trouble with
my video. I just wanted to know how you in your parish layers. How do you either
rename each sort of box, or, if you can delete them.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, if you can. You try sharing your screen, Claire, and see
if we can watch it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you should be able to share it without the camera.
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Claire Mortimer: Oh, my goodness! Oh.
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Claire Mortimer: share screen. Okay.
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Claire Mortimer: Oh, wow!
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tristram cary: We.
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Claire Mortimer: Oh!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Still thinking about it, but not doing it yet.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go! Well done.
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Claire Mortimer: Okay.
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Claire Mortimer: So in here.
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Claire Mortimer: like, I've got things like London Bridge and things like that that I
don't actually need anymore.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you want to get rid of it altogether.
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Claire Mortimer: Get rid of that. Yeah, just like this one. And there's a couple more,
but obviously just wanted to know how I get rid of these task bars at the side.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if you, if you want to get rid of the entire layer,
and each one of those is a layer, then you do that through the administration block,
which is the cog wheel up to the top right of your screen.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go.
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Claire Mortimer: At all.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go ahead and select, administer. Oh.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: oh, guess what! You don't have the rights.
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Claire Mortimer: Oh.
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Claire Mortimer: I don't have the rights to do.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, somebody. Your your administrator needs you update you to
at least a data administrator.
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Claire Mortimer: So I need to get updated to a data admin.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then I'm going to put the onus upon Stuart now, because
Stuart reacts well to last minute preparations. I'm gonna ask him if he'll share
his screen and just show you where you go to delete a layer.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, whilst he's doing that, if you can stop sharing
your screen, Claire.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: so that
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you just stop sharing the screen with us, there you go.
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Claire Mortimer: Oh, my goodness!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not yet.
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Claire Mortimer: So sorry. I'm having all sorts of problems here. Oh, my goodness!
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Claire Mortimer: Where am I going.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go at the top of your zoom screen there should be a
stop sharing button top line.
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Claire Mortimer: Perfect. Yeah, sorry about.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart. Stuart's going to get ready and show you where to do
this as an entire layer. But if you want to delete individual items from a layer.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You get the chance of doing that back where you were on
your main screen.
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Claire Mortimer: Okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can just click on any item, and then there's a dustbin
that will come up at the top left that you can select to get rid of an individual Item.
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Claire Mortimer: Oh, my face!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Get rid of whole squares, and Stuart is in agony.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: not quite sure what's going on there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: He's lost his sound as well.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've rarely seen you, Clerk Stuart, but this you're
looking puzzled at the moment.
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Cllr Stuart Withington Dunmow, Essex: So he's looking for divine intervention.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, Judith, look at you! You've suddenly arrived.
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Judith Mashiter: Have.
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tristram cary: Hmm.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: since God isn't shining. Oh, there we go, all right.
Yes, God is shining on you.
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John Roberts: God is showing in there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That is the most wonderful fit, right?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Gorgeous
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, Claire, this is for your benefit, do we? Do we have your
sound, Stuart? Are you talking to us?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you go into the top right cogwheel.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Clare, you get this, drop down, menu an administration, and
then you wait for the layers to fit in, which will take a little while because they're
coming down from the Internet.
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Claire Mortimer: Right, same.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You select whichever layer you want to get rid of just by
highlighting. Click on it once to highlight it, and then you can go up to the dustbin
in the top right to get rid of it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and it'll be gone.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: In fact, I think you get a very nice little message that says,
Are you really sure you want to do this because you can't repeat it? And now you
need to type the word deleted in capitals. There you go.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you do have to use capitals. It really wants you to make
sure that you do want to delete it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, that's brilliant. Thank you very much, and not quite
sure if we're going to lose sound for all the rest of the day from you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: going to be
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: alright, Judith, you've had long enough to think. Now,
second question, please.
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Judith Mashiter: I, like most people, I presume I received from parish online an
invitation to enter in various parish council stats.
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Judith Mashiter: Like, for example, how many councillors are in post, how many
vacancies there are?
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Judith Mashiter: Which I do I did for for my 5 councils I haven't been able to
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Judith Mashiter: Click out of it, and you'll see the stats for your neighboring parishes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So we're looking now. The spotlight has switched to Tristram.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did anyone else actually tried tried filling in one of these
questionnaires? Yet.
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Welcome Back: Yeah, some of us have done it. And where are you, Judith? So we can have
a look-see where you are.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you can share your screen, I think, is what he means.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, see you no, you're actually I beg pardon, you're looking at
him there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Can you see your own, Richard?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you feel good.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And what did you determine?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Of non-compliance.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well done Long Sutton. I wonder who did that? Because I don't
think I did.
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tristram cary: Judith, do you know where the layers are in Paris online?
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Judith Mashiter: Yeah.
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Claire Mortimer: Except.
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Judith Mashiter: They're under national maps, parish stats. And then, for example,
I've gone to CILCA qualification
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tristram cary: But you filled in the data for them.
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Judith Mashiter: I did. I'm.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you, if you, Judy, if you, if you go into table view on
that layer, does it show you what the records are.
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Judith Mashiter: You can't go into Table view. There isn't 1.
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Judith Mashiter: The cargo on that layer on the CILCA qualification layer simply has
the transparency and a filter.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: but you say you can see them, but not others.
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Judith Mashiter: Man.
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Judith Mashiter: It's it's not crucial. We're not going to die over this. But I
wondered really what the purpose is, and who's going to be looking at.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, but you have to understand that we know that Chris Mewse
absolutely adores Friday afternoons, because he knows he's going to get all the tickets
from the session, so I highly recommend that you open up a ticket.
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tristram cary: Yes, 2. That would be very good.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because they do need the feedback, Judith. It is actually
helpful.
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Judith Mashiter: Could you force me to ask a question.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yeah.
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Judith Mashiter: And it is your fault.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The very simplest way of doing this is just to send an email to
support@geoxphere.com, and that automatically opens up a ticket for you.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay. I'll do that.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, but.
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tristram cary: I can also explain. I've got some news on this front, and that is that
all these things that we're collecting came as a result of NALC, the National
Association saying they didn't understand the sector. And could we help them create
these maps? So we did that.
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tristram cary: And and then they were renewing their website. And they said, We'll
publish the maps on the NALC website, and that will encourage more. And then we can
encourage more people to put in the stats, because the problem, of course, is in
collecting all this data. And so I've been. Jonathan Owens now agreed. He said. Yes,
we do want the maps in our new website, which is due to be launched in October.
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tristram cary: So we're we're talking to him about how to do that. And then I hope he
will
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tristram cary: push out, you know, in the newsletters to explain why they want the
data and think about how they can collect it, so they they should take over from us
and say, This is, this is how to, you know, to encourage people to add the information.
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Judith Mashiter: Hopefully that will be published with a proviso that.
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Judith Mashiter: only as good as the data that people have put in.
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tristram cary: Of course, it's like a sort of wiki. You have to trust people to put in
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Judith Mashiter: Yeah.
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Judith Mashiter: and the fact.
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Judith Mashiter: Doesn't exist for a parish or a town council doesn't mean that
they're not functioning. It's just.
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Claire Mortimer: Kind of.
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Judith Mashiter: They're not participating.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay, thank you. Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are they.
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Welcome Back: well, unless they've only got 2 clerks, and they've got about 50 parishes
each, is there? There's there's lots of theirs that are showing the the stats.
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Judith Mashiter: Oh! Did you.
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tristram cary: The Calcs the county associations can also put. We've given them a
free version of X map.
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tristram cary: They can. They can add stats for their their members if they want to.
So if they've got the stats they might have done a bulk download.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That is interesting. Yes, I see what you mean. So
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: well, in default of any other questions, let's switch the
attention back to Claire to see if Claire's come up with any more questions.
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Claire Mortimer: Let's see.
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Claire Mortimer: I'm I'm still very new to parish online. So I was kind of going to
come on and just like, listen to what you talked about, and then go and learn.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I feared that.
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Claire Mortimer: I've just sort of. I've just sort of muddled along, for since
I've been in charge of it. I'm sort of trying to build
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Claire Mortimer: the information onto our platform so that it makes things easier to
see where things are. But it's just little things where other people have played
previously. And I've come up against walls as in like these extra layers that
shouldn't be there, and things so at the moment I'm I'm still sort of
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Claire Mortimer: trying to find my way round it. Really.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, well, the
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is where I take the opportunity to let you know there are
the most phenomenal set of lessons available to anybody who wants to take them.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: produced by yours truly.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you find that you need some help, give me a shout.
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Claire Mortimer: Oh, that's amazing, are they like videos, like short videos and things.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, they usually they take this over form of a an hour
session, where we go through a presentation which you get a copy of afterwards, and
the video itself. So you can go back to it and look up the bits that you don't
remember having seen or being shown.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and at the end of 8 sessions you'll be a absolute whiz, kid.
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Claire Mortimer: Past settings.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: give me a shout if you'd like to pursue that.
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Claire Mortimer: Yes, I can put the details.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Come back! Come on!
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Judith Mashiter: Up with another one, if if you don't mind rather than watching
those experts videos and becoming.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's that. Yeah.
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Claire Mortimer: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Any time.
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Judith Mashiter: I'm lazy. I'm lazy. And I I know that many months ago this for the
group spoke about putting pressure on principal authority to share their data, and
you gave the name of Simon Somebody.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Simon Miles. Yeah.
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Judith Mashiter: Yeah, what would be really useful for me is just a template email
that I can send to the principal authority, explaining in language that they can
understand
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Judith Mashiter: what they need to do, what I'm asking them to do, and and how easy
it is for them to start sharing
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Judith Mashiter: with parish online.
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Judith Mashiter: anybody willing to.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, so
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I.
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Claire Mortimer: Think.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you were to look. Oh, Judith, you're the one that can or
you cannot see what's up in the top right hand corner.
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Judith Mashiter: I can. I'm I'm the administrator. Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm trying to remember. Where is it in?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The help system it is, isn't it? So? If you go up into the
op right hand corner, click on help and support.
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Judith Mashiter: Yep.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then type in is it? Council lists council data? I've forgotten what it's called. Now.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: let me just.
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Judith Mashiter: Not Council Lists.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, you have got that there or Council data I need.
I'm sorry. I just so.
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Judith Mashiter: You go to parish online? No.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not quite.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just call up parish online myself and see what it's
called.
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Judith Mashiter: Uploading data into parish online.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I think it's Council data, is it?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Under? If you type in the word Council, you'll get a request
called "Requests for council data".
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then there's an entire page of
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: the step.
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tristram cary: Do you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go through Judith.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the the reason that this page is here is because
Simon has has worked with many of the County Councils
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and come to the conclusion that some of them are already
producing data, but it hasn't been recognised by
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: the parish online users. The parish clerks don't necessarily
know where the councils are putting their data. So the 1st step is for you to have a
look and see whether any of it's being produced already.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it tells you how to go about getting Simon to come in on
your behalf and persuade them to produce the data in parish online.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So it's actually he's got what? 4 or 5 steps here.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you follow those, I think you'll find that's by
far the fastest way of doing it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And and basically, what you're trying to do is to
find an example of where they've got data made available, then we tell Simon about that,
and he goes to the council and says, Did you know that you can help out all of
your parish online users by doing this? And he shows them how to do it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay, that looks.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adept to that.
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Judith Mashiter: That looks quite in depth and technical. But I'll I'll have a go.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it looks like that. But it isn't really. I mean, most of
it is just pictures of pages that you found on Google. So
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've done that. So.
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Judith Mashiter: All right. Thank you.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well done.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and let's see.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: we've lost a picture of Stuart
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart. Have you got? Oh, I can say that
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Simon has been working hard on Somerset.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Somerset is transitioning from being a County Council to being
a unitary, and we have been trying very hard to get data out of them.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I thought it would be happening at a more or less sort
of
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: logical step by step method. But instead, I keep being told
that they've actually published stuff without announcing it to anybody, and I suddenly
get told by our Parish Clerk, "Guess what we now know all about where our rubbish bins
are, or so forth."
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tristram cary: Do anything.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if I look patiently at Richard, Richard, if you know where
all your rubbish bins are, yet you don't
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: wonder why.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've gone all quiet, Richard.
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Welcome Back: It's because they haven't shared any data from the old West, Somerset,
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, actually share any layers. It's just that I think our
clerk got an email saying, this is where your bins are, or this is how many bins you've
got.
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John Roberts: They shared the sorry.
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because they're charging you for your bins now?
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Welcome Back: Because you were in SSDC. Haven't been charged, and you've got a
charging regime start in the New Year.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, is that right? Okay. I missed all that.
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Welcome Back: That's why they know about your bins.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I was hoping to say it was an example of parish online
leaning on the the Council and getting some data exported. But no, all right.
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Welcome Back: John, John and I were very impressed that while you were away we
suddenly got layers from Mendip, and and says, Somerset.
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Welcome Back: some elements of of planning from Sedgemore, but we got nothing from
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Welcome Back: the old Somerset, West, and Taunton.
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John Roberts: Yes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Think that things work better if I go away...
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John Roberts: What I'd like to find out is with the layers they've shared.
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John Roberts: Are they current and up to date, or being updated? Or is it just the
old data that they've downloaded.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: A hugely good question, John. I've got no idea how they're
managing to keep the old databases going.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But again, I guess, because Stuart has lost all sound.
He's asking us questions. Tristan, have you seen the question for you in the Chat.
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tristram cary: Yeah, I just did. I just did rather than type an answer. I'll just
explain. It's not parish online that we're giving to Calcs. It's X-map, because
they're not Psga members. So it's it's it's pretty well the same thing. But it's it's
to encourage them to
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tristram cary: record data and use. Use X map to help run their business. That cult
things so they can, for instance, draw, you know, make layers of where trainings
happen and which councils have done this or that, or you know, whatever it is they
want to do. And we we gave them that license free of charge, in the hope that they
would see how useful X map and parish online is, and sort of encourage everybody to
join in and use it.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So is that all.
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tristram cary: Not all calcs by any means have taken this up, but some have, and
some are being quite active. So Suffolk, for instance, is quite active in talking
to their members about the benefits of using parish online. And they, you know, they,
we go to their annual meetings and things and and talk about it. So we we find the
calc's quite useful as a sort of marketing tool to get out to the individual parishes.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So then Stuart's question, and he, by the way, is in Huncote,
which is in some weird part of the country.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: so we don't know which calc is that Leicester.
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tristram cary: Yeah.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. So they were a Calc taking it up.
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tristram cary: I don't. Actually, I don't know who's who's the CEO of Cal. If I got to
remember
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tristram cary: Jake Atkinson.
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tristram cary: I can't remember.
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tristram cary: I don't know. But if you, if you talk to Jake, you might say to him,
Have you have you? Has has he taken it up? And if not, why not.
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tristram cary: but I think Chris does that quite fairly regularly, and he usually he
tries to get someone to go to each annual general meeting, or whatever.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, does he? Okay?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So in answers to Stuart's question of whether the Calc layers
will come down to parishes and parish online? Is that going to happen.
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tristram cary: Oh, no sorry chemical layers filter. No, no, they won't. I mean, that
might be information they keep for their own use.
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tristram cary: Say, for instance, if they're if they're running, I don't know training
sessions or something. I know that Suffolk keeps a record of where they've done it to
try to guide future. You know where they where physically they might go to a village
to run a course on something, and the other thing that Suffolk are trying to do is to
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tristram cary: to make their own database where the are. Which of their members have
declared a national emergency and all that sort of thing. So it's quite. It overlaps a
bit with what Nalc wanted to do. So it's a sort of county level version of that.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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tristram cary: You can always ask them for the data. But that's not. It's not
automatically. We don't automatically filter it in Paris online.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, well, the calc is not necessarily the home of the sort
of data that we're looking for, anyway, is it?
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tristram cary: Well, exactly, but it might, I suppose it might be.
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tristram cary: I mean, I think they should. I think it's a good idea. Seems to be a
good idea for the Calcs and the parishes to work together on collecting. You know, for
instance, data about climate change
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tristram cary: which and all neighborhood plans, who's got a neighborhood plan?
What's what states it in all that sort of stuff?
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Claire Mortimer: Yeah.
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tristram cary: That's the same data that now caught. But now they haven't got the
means to know what it is. I think that the hope was that the Council would have a much
better idea. They'd be closer to their members, and they'd be able to push around the
thing and ask or bring somebody up and say, climate emergency. Have you got a community
energy policy? And all these things.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which is sort of overlapping with what we're going to be doing
with great collaboration, isn't it?
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tristram cary: It is, it exactly is.
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tristram cary: But so it should be. I mean, in a way, all these things, everyone.
We're all working towards the same goal and try to coordinate all that activity so
that we're not wasting our time.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: right.
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Judith Mashiter: Another simple question. It's coming back to me while I'm sitting
looking at these maps.
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Judith Mashiter: I presume I've tried, and I can't find on parish online the common
land or village green registration is that again, something that would be shared from
the
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Judith Mashiter: unitary authority and isn't available
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Judith Mashiter: on a national scale.
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Welcome Back: So common tour.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So.
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tristram cary: Go ahead!
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's have a word with Richard, who's probably on the ball on
this one.
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Welcome Back: Isn't that under natural England.
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Judith Mashiter: Hi.
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Welcome Back: Oh, sure!
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Judith Mashiter: Natural England, designation.
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Stuart Bacon: Anybody.
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Judith Mashiter: Doesn't have.
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Welcome Back: Central England access is that the one
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Welcome Back: really.
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Judith Mashiter: Nope.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it's it's.
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Welcome Back: Because you've got the the
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Welcome Back: any any sort of it's relevant to to the largest building site in Europe,
because the the land alongside. It is common land. So so I've been using the the
CRoW 2,000
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Welcome Back: layer, which is under act natural England access, and that shows up our
common common land.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, it's it's.
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Claire Mortimer: Is.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Penny disguise is the the rights of way. Act 2,000, isn't it?
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Claire Mortimer: 100.
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Welcome Back: Yeah, like.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Got S. 4 conclusive registered common land. So does that answer
your question, Judith?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Does that yours fall into that.
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Judith Mashiter: Come on, I don't.
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Judith Mashiter: So you're under designation.
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Claire Mortimer: Make sure you.
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Judith Mashiter: Or access.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, access.
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Welcome Back: Natural England access, layer.
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Judith Mashiter: Well.
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Judith Mashiter: So the Croat 2,000 access land.
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Welcome Back: It certainly shows up for us, as on the on the.
466
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I was.
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Welcome Back: Much right.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Around us as well. So it definitely does have entries in there.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: but they're quite few and far between.
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tristram cary: Could you go back a step for me looking at access? Did you say.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, it's it's common land, which is what's after.
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Claire Mortimer: And
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Claire Mortimer: yeah.
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tristram cary: Where am I finding that in the in the natural England layers.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is under New natural England access, or if you.
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tristram cary: Goodness.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Search from the layers up in the magnifying.
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tristram cary: I've got. I've got access.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
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tristram cary: So it's the it's the croak. 2,000 axis layer, is it?
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Judith Mashiter: Yeah.
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Stuart Bacon: Well, that's not easy.
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Judith Mashiter: On a general question on that and this.
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Stuart Bacon: So that's.
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Judith Mashiter: On the parish stacks as well. When I'm looking at a map that's got
some shading in. There isn't a key on screen.
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tristram cary: If you click on any of the shaded areas, it gives you the information
about them.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or you can do View, Legend. Judith.
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Welcome Back: And.
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Judith Mashiter: Okay.
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Welcome Back: I think what's happened is there? There doesn't appear to be anything
showing on parish online in Judith's area. Having scrolled back up to.
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tristram cary: Not.
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Judith Mashiter: I'm.
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Welcome Back: No, they stay stuck.
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Welcome Back: There's stuff around.
495
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Judith Mashiter: But.
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Welcome Back: Yes.
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Judith Mashiter: I'm looking at Coverstone. Just southwest of that, and there is access
land combined. Open country registered common land.
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Judith Mashiter: So that
499
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Judith Mashiter: is interesting.
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Judith Mashiter: And, as you say, when I click on an area.
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Judith Mashiter: it gives me a description of what I'm looking at. So thank you for that.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And did I hear, Stuart? You got your voice back now.
503
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Stuart Bacon: Can you hear me?
504
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
505
00:35:59.710 --> 00:36:06.600
Graham Stoddart-Stones: wonders never cease. But you're looking up to God again. Obviously, he, you've got a more defined activity today.
506
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Stuart Bacon: Oh, no, no, I'm I'm I'm in the process of moving monitors around, and
they're in weird positions at the minute. So they're actually stacked one above each
other, which is really nice.
507
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Claire Mortimer: Let's see.
508
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nice.
509
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tristram cary: Yes.
510
00:36:20.890 --> 00:36:23.810
Graham Stoddart-Stones: It does have a very interesting effect when viewed from our
point.
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Claire Mortimer: There.
512
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Claire Mortimer: so.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, can I come to you? Oh, you just run away.
514
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Stuart Bacon: Anyway.
515
00:36:36.873 --> 00:36:40.316
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sorry the other Stuart. I was talking about Stuart in Essex.
516
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: just just gone through the door or something.
517
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, John, the focus is going to come on you to ask if.
518
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Claire Mortimer: And.
519
00:36:52.900 --> 00:36:55.439
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Anything news happened in nether scoy
520
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: in the world of parish online.
521
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John Roberts: Not at the present time.
522
00:37:02.290 --> 00:37:07.119
John Roberts: Like Richard, we filled out the stats doesn't take long.
523
00:37:07.700 --> 00:37:11.020
John Roberts: but not a lot to actually add to them, either. But.
524
00:37:12.570 --> 00:37:16.819
John Roberts: I've got a I've got a meeting with Bill Revens next Wednesday.
525
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have you?
526
00:37:17.950 --> 00:37:18.640
Claire Mortimer: Yep.
527
00:37:19.764 --> 00:37:21.220
John Roberts: A 1 on one
528
00:37:21.240 --> 00:37:25.029
John Roberts: actually in our office, not teams or anything like that.
529
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. See?
530
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John Roberts: You gotta.
531
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Over here with parish online questions.
532
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:35.959
John Roberts: I will, but I need to talk to you and Richard first, st without
having to bore everybody else with it.
533
00:37:37.750 --> 00:37:40.050
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so was it. Next Wednesday you said next Tuesday.
534
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Claire Mortimer: That's actually.
535
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:42.549
John Roberts: Wednesday, 2 o'clock.
536
00:37:42.550 --> 00:37:44.790
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So we need to talk before then.
537
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John Roberts: Yeah.
538
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. I'll I'll.
539
00:37:48.350 --> 00:37:49.989
John Roberts: Do it by email later. Don't worry about.
540
00:37:50.500 --> 00:37:50.870
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
541
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:51.580
Claire Mortimer: What is.
542
00:37:51.580 --> 00:37:53.050
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nice to know?
543
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:09.700
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I'm I'm looking around for questions to get people to
start things running. So, Stuart, we'll come back to you. Why are you moving screens
all over the place.
544
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart Huncote.
545
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: or Stuart Bacon in Huncote.
546
00:38:14.990 --> 00:38:22.050
Stuart Bacon: Sort of yeah, bunch of PC, set up and whatever. So, yeah, nothing
nothing exciting, really.
547
00:38:23.270 --> 00:38:30.910
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I love the impression that you've got 4 screens all
stacked on top of the other, and you look from the down at your toes from up to
your
548
00:38:31.410 --> 00:38:32.639
Graham Stoddart-Stones: your gods.
549
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:38.780
Stuart Bacon: Yeah, well, it's yeah, more, more diamond shaped at the minute. But yeah,
it's not the ideal
550
00:38:39.500 --> 00:38:40.280
Stuart Bacon: right?
551
00:38:40.810 --> 00:38:44.920
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So is there a screen per computer? You running several
computers as well.
552
00:38:45.970 --> 00:38:50.849
Stuart Bacon: yeah, I'm I'm running at the at the minute I'm running 4 Pcs.
553
00:38:51.090 --> 00:38:51.920
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
554
00:38:52.311 --> 00:38:58.580
Stuart Bacon: And yeah, so I can use it all or spread it out as as I need.
555
00:38:59.030 --> 00:38:59.760
Claire Mortimer: Yeah.
556
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.960
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Multitasking multi screens. Good stuff.
557
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, Helen, we haven't discussed anything more with you than
that. Your memories let you forget more about parish online than you remembered.
558
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Does that mean you're not getting a chance to use it either?
559
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Helen Davey: I haven't.
560
00:39:19.950 --> 00:39:20.870
Claire Mortimer: Oh, I don't know.
561
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Helen Davey: Going on.
562
00:39:23.980 --> 00:39:26.810
Helen Davey: Been using it. I'm waiting for
563
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Helen Davey: the Council to take the.
564
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Claire Mortimer: And.
565
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Helen Davey: Join me in in this.
566
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Helen Davey: And so I'm now starting to study through the
567
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Helen Davey: sessions that we've had, and
568
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Helen Davey: refresh mind.
569
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Smart move.
570
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Helen Davey: I must admit I really really enjoy it, and I think that it's really
going to have been a benefit when we
571
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Helen Davey: it gets
572
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Helen Davey: into a property.
573
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you go back through the old videos, all you do is hear
the old jokes over and over again.
574
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Helen Davey: That's right.
575
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Be sad.
576
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Helen Davey: Well, I'll go back further now. Go back to when you 1st gave me lessons.
577
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that's what I mean. You hear the same old jokes.
578
00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:16.679
Helen Davey: I see.
579
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Claire Mortimer: Michigan.
580
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Welcome back! Bob!
581
00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:26.019
Helen Davey: But yeah, I'm thinking it's pretty.
582
00:40:26.330 --> 00:40:28.769
Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think I think you're muted, Bob. So.
583
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Helen Davey: That if you want.
584
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:33.800
Helen Davey: So we're speaking.
585
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bob, you're on mute.
586
00:40:37.570 --> 00:40:38.120
Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go!
587
00:40:39.640 --> 00:40:47.810
Bob Grainger: So I'm so. Yes, I got called away at somebody. A guy from Virgin came
to the front door. He's trying to sell me fiber broadband because we just had fiber
installed here
588
00:40:47.990 --> 00:40:54.959
Bob Grainger: and so if I was saying to about how the various things work, so I'm
very interested, and we'll probably do it.
589
00:40:58.038 --> 00:41:00.750
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, we've got fiber here now, and I'm
590
00:41:00.940 --> 00:41:07.809
Graham Stoddart-Stones: willing to go up to 300 MB quite cheerfully, which is ample
for this sort of thing, but good to have.
591
00:41:08.370 --> 00:41:16.109
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the only problem that we've run into with our fibre cable
is that when the garden comes around with his shears, he cuts straight through the
cable.
592
00:41:17.135 --> 00:41:21.120
Bob Grainger: Well, I'm lucky I've got a duct into the house, so that's not
possible.
593
00:41:21.160 --> 00:41:21.870
Claire Mortimer: Well, yeah.
594
00:41:21.870 --> 00:41:23.163
Bob Grainger: But certainly
595
00:41:24.275 --> 00:41:30.909
Bob Grainger: I've just been looking at that and getting a VoIP phone as well, and
some of the some of the deals that they're doing are quite remarkable.
596
00:41:30.910 --> 00:41:35.750
Graham Stoddart-Stones: No? Well, I think the costs of the vip phone are extraordinary. They're so so minimal nowadays.
597
00:41:35.750 --> 00:41:38.540
Bob Grainger: But 6, 99 a month, including all your calls.
598
00:41:39.050 --> 00:41:41.090
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Including all the calls. Right? Yes.
599
00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:43.431
Bob Grainger: Oh, hang on! There's my phone now.
600
00:41:44.160 --> 00:41:44.710
Helen Davey: T.
601
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: On cue, isn't it, Richard? Are you calling him?
602
00:41:51.230 --> 00:41:52.650
Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, what? I'm more.
603
00:41:52.650 --> 00:41:55.119
Welcome Back: VoIP phone that we've had for ages now. No.
604
00:41:55.120 --> 00:41:59.469
Graham Stoddart-Stones: I just thought that if you say he's got to do it, you give
him a call to make sure it works.
605
00:41:59.810 --> 00:42:04.969
Welcome Back: I wouldn't. I wouldn't rush. I wouldn't rush to have one for
the quality of calls. Sometimes.
606
00:42:06.420 --> 00:42:09.290
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it probably needs to be tied in with with fibre,
doesn't it?
607
00:42:11.070 --> 00:42:16.389
Welcome Back: Would be helpful. The string and tin cans that we have are not as good
as yours, but
608
00:42:16.450 --> 00:42:18.339
Welcome Back: they've given us a VoIP phone already.
609
00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:20.500
Helen Davey: Right? Well.
610
00:42:20.500 --> 00:42:24.495
Graham Stoddart-Stones: The joys of having your gardener shear through it. With this
it brings in the engineer who's.
611
00:42:24.730 --> 00:42:25.700
Claire Mortimer: Hello!
612
00:42:25.700 --> 00:42:28.760
Graham Stoddart-Stones: He said. Who's installed this for you? They shouldn't have
put it here
613
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.800
Graham Stoddart-Stones: quite right, too. Shouldn't have put it there.
614
00:42:33.210 --> 00:42:38.190
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bob, it's your turn to regale us with some story, to come up
with some question too.
615
00:42:38.190 --> 00:42:39.020
Claire Mortimer: It took me to.
616
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: News.
617
00:42:39.710 --> 00:42:43.179
Bob Grainger: Well, that won't be possible, Graham, because I'm just on the point of
dashing out.
618
00:42:43.180 --> 00:42:48.870
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, that's right. You did say 2.30. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Yeah.
I should have asked you earlier.
619
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Bob Grainger: I'm delighted because I have that virgin fiber man at the door, but I do
now have to go, because I'm already late.
620
00:42:54.720 --> 00:42:55.620
Claire Mortimer: Still apply.
621
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Bob Grainger: Apologies to everybody, and I'll see you again soon.
622
00:42:58.620 --> 00:43:00.640
Helen Davey: Making a vibe. Okay.
623
00:43:04.030 --> 00:43:05.269
Helen Davey: So interested with you on that.
624
00:43:07.210 --> 00:43:07.940
tristram cary: Left.
625
00:43:07.940 --> 00:43:08.270
Claire Mortimer: And.
626
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Helen Davey: Graham.
627
00:43:10.550 --> 00:43:11.359
Helen Davey: What would.
628
00:43:13.140 --> 00:43:15.139
Helen Davey: It's a good.
629
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hang on, hang on a second call and let me mute Claire: Is
there a way you can mute or let me mute you because you're making a rather noise.
There we go!
630
00:43:22.896 --> 00:43:25.830
Helen Davey: Yes, that would be. I would quite like to
631
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Helen Davey: just ask when I want to. So I put the dog bins.
632
00:43:30.830 --> 00:43:33.600
Helen Davey: which I'm doing, marking out dog bins where they are.
633
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.380
Helen Davey: to put.
634
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Helen Davey: I don't need to
635
00:43:40.490 --> 00:43:41.330
Helen Davey: is.
636
00:43:41.560 --> 00:43:45.559
Helen Davey: do I need to put a dog bin notice?
637
00:43:45.810 --> 00:43:47.770
Helen Davey: Do I need to write dog bin.
638
00:43:48.180 --> 00:43:49.360
Helen Davey: are they.
639
00:43:50.220 --> 00:43:58.360
Graham Stoddart-Stones: But they have an icon associated with them which brings them
up, I think, in a gorgeous red color to warn people that they're dangerous.
640
00:43:58.360 --> 00:43:59.460
Helen Davey: So they they.
641
00:43:59.460 --> 00:44:08.389
Graham Stoddart-Stones: As opposed to regular wastebins, which are blue. So, but if
you have a label on it that says Dog Bin, that can be helpful, but you don't have to
say.
642
00:44:08.390 --> 00:44:11.070
Helen Davey: To do that. You make you make a
643
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Helen Davey: rectangular.
644
00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:19.179
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you don't. No, if you go into your assets and
management layer.
645
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Helen.
646
00:44:20.550 --> 00:44:25.480
Graham Stoddart-Stones: There is a layer there for waste bins and and for dog bins, actually.
647
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Helen Davey: Oh yes!
648
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And that brings up a nice question for Tristram, which I'm
about to log a ticket to Chris with, and Tristram can't answer it. So
649
00:44:34.250 --> 00:44:40.759
Graham Stoddart-Stones: if you want to take a photograph of your waste bins and add it
as an attachment. That's no problem at all.
650
00:44:40.810 --> 00:44:47.460
Graham Stoddart-Stones: But if you try and do the same thing with a dog bin, Tristram.
There's no facility to add attachments to dog bins. Now, why would that be?
651
00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:51.970
tristram cary: Yes, I have no idea. But ask. Ask, Chris. It should be, I'm sure that's
a mistake.
652
00:44:51.970 --> 00:44:57.220
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, well, we've come up with today's question. Then,
following closely from Judith, but.
653
00:44:58.070 --> 00:45:00.320
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hi, Andrew, nice to see you join us.
654
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.449
Andrew Clegg: Oh, yeah, sorry. I'm a bit late.
655
00:45:02.450 --> 00:45:04.850
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, that's right. You've been out counting phosphates.
656
00:45:04.850 --> 00:45:09.256
Andrew Clegg: No, I'm not. I've just got got back from Heathrow Airport to collect my
wife
657
00:45:10.090 --> 00:45:12.639
Andrew Clegg: came back early just to get get online.
658
00:45:12.640 --> 00:45:13.960
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh.
659
00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:16.560
Graham Stoddart-Stones: very touching! Nice to see you.
660
00:45:17.220 --> 00:45:17.960
Graham Stoddart-Stones: and.
661
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:18.370
tristram cary: It's.
662
00:45:18.370 --> 00:45:19.439
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's go today.
663
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Helen Davey: Just Graham. That was what I was trying to say.
664
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Helen Davey: Photograph.
665
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Helen Davey: If I photographed the dog bin.
666
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Helen Davey: then put
667
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Helen Davey: that where the bin is, people can see.
668
00:45:35.321 --> 00:45:37.089
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Will you add it as an attachment? But.
669
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Helen Davey: Yes.
670
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: As we've just raised the point, you can't add it if you
actually.
671
00:45:40.710 --> 00:45:43.129
Helen Davey: I love to you. I've just found that out.
672
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright.
673
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:45.490
Graham Stoddart-Stones: and that's another.
674
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tristram cary: I can't believe that's that's intentional.
675
00:45:49.790 --> 00:45:53.049
Welcome Back: I have to. I have to say. I have to say that you can.
676
00:45:53.590 --> 00:45:55.620
Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'll explain.
677
00:45:55.620 --> 00:45:57.489
Welcome Back: Tell you what, you can, Graham.
678
00:45:57.490 --> 00:45:59.000
John Roberts: I'll agree with Richard.
679
00:45:59.500 --> 00:46:03.049
Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is possible? And it wasn't yesterday.
680
00:46:03.050 --> 00:46:04.770
John Roberts: The attachment part is there.
681
00:46:05.850 --> 00:46:06.660
tristram cary: Oh, good!
682
00:46:06.660 --> 00:46:08.770
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Always been this collaborative.
683
00:46:09.650 --> 00:46:11.280
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me go.
684
00:46:11.500 --> 00:46:13.969
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I added. Let me see if it's still there.
685
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:15.630
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I've got one.
686
00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:16.590
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hey? With me.
687
00:46:17.210 --> 00:46:22.070
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bear with. Bear with me! I've got to scale into where we
are.
688
00:46:23.330 --> 00:46:25.169
tristram cary: You better share your screen.
689
00:46:25.740 --> 00:46:29.029
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not until I unembarrassed myself.
690
00:46:30.340 --> 00:46:33.940
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, I don't have a dog bin here. Add a feature.
691
00:46:34.150 --> 00:46:35.480
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Add a dog bin.
692
00:46:36.540 --> 00:46:37.689
Welcome Back: I can see 2.
693
00:46:38.420 --> 00:46:40.090
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Somebody's sharing their screen.
694
00:46:40.720 --> 00:46:42.250
Welcome Back: Yeah, there's 2 there.
695
00:46:42.250 --> 00:46:42.715
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
696
00:46:43.620 --> 00:46:50.530
Graham Stoddart-Stones: right? But then, have you got an attachment on them? So if
you click on one of the red ones, Stuart, oh, there you go. Yeah.
697
00:46:51.110 --> 00:46:54.779
Graham Stoddart-Stones: let me just come back to my screen and we'll see why I could
not do that on mine.
698
00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:58.620
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
699
00:46:58.930 --> 00:46:59.759
Welcome Back: My name's Joe.
700
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.109
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Isn't that weird?
701
00:47:01.930 --> 00:47:04.650
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, I take it back. I do apologize.
702
00:47:05.460 --> 00:47:08.784
tristram cary: That's because you're using some weird operating system.
703
00:47:10.082 --> 00:47:13.610
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nice. Try nice. Try.
704
00:47:13.910 --> 00:47:16.189
Welcome Back: Or an older or an older version.
705
00:47:16.750 --> 00:47:17.740
tristram cary: Yeah.
706
00:47:17.740 --> 00:47:19.690
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Of what? Parish online.
707
00:47:24.680 --> 00:47:34.379
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? Well, I apologize because I I tried doing it for our
Paris clerk, who came through the other day and said she'd added those bins and dog
waste bins that she'd been told about
708
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:43.730
Graham Stoddart-Stones: and she made them all waste bins, and when I wondered why
they weren't in the dog waste bins layer. Then it was because she's got photographs
of everything, and there aren't any photographs. But
709
00:47:44.040 --> 00:47:46.529
Graham Stoddart-Stones: okay, I don't lie. How sad.
710
00:47:47.940 --> 00:47:48.860
Helen Davey: Alright, so.
711
00:47:48.860 --> 00:47:52.540
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I've misled you, Helen. I'm sorry.
712
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.049
Helen Davey: That's absolutely fine. Am I? Echoing still.
713
00:47:56.300 --> 00:47:56.710
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nope.
714
00:47:56.710 --> 00:47:57.470
John Roberts: No.
715
00:47:57.820 --> 00:47:58.410
Helen Davey: Good.
716
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.700
Helen Davey: Okay.
717
00:48:02.520 --> 00:48:07.799
Helen Davey: yes. So I I can go and take pictures, and I can put them on so
718
00:48:07.910 --> 00:48:11.880
Helen Davey: they can be easily identified if we need to talk about one.
719
00:48:12.620 --> 00:48:17.580
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. You can bring the picture straight up
in the middle of your Council session.
720
00:48:17.780 --> 00:48:18.410
Helen Davey: It's like.
721
00:48:20.270 --> 00:48:20.820
Helen Davey: but.
722
00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:28.599
John Roberts: The only thing I would say, Helen, is, when you take the picture, make
sure you include a good part of the location, otherwise all the bins are going to
look the same.
723
00:48:28.600 --> 00:48:29.610
Helen Davey: Absolutely
724
00:48:29.740 --> 00:48:32.100
Helen Davey: thank you for that. And yes, you're right.
725
00:48:33.600 --> 00:48:34.280
Helen Davey: Thank you.
726
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:34.680
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Addition.
727
00:48:34.680 --> 00:48:44.490
Andrew Clegg: Martok the other day that we've just got a new bin, a new dog bin in
the recreation ground, and it is huge. It looks like the Tardis
728
00:48:46.530 --> 00:48:49.370
Andrew Clegg: is that.
729
00:48:49.370 --> 00:48:49.960
Welcome Back: I'm not.
730
00:48:50.268 --> 00:48:51.500
John Roberts: Dogs that use it!
731
00:48:51.610 --> 00:48:53.380
John Roberts: The recreation group.
732
00:48:53.550 --> 00:48:56.530
Andrew Clegg: Yeah, there's an awful lot of dogs around there. That's the thing.
733
00:48:56.530 --> 00:48:58.089
Stuart Bacon: Are they all big dogs.
734
00:49:00.120 --> 00:49:01.160
Graham Stoddart-Stones: If I can.
735
00:49:01.160 --> 00:49:04.049
Stuart Bacon: Big Dollops like it's needing a big bin.
736
00:49:04.330 --> 00:49:06.229
Welcome Back: Bernie, Bernie Winter's dog.
737
00:49:08.560 --> 00:49:10.310
Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm fascinated by the
738
00:49:10.750 --> 00:49:13.459
Graham Stoddart-Stones: topics covered by our conversations.
739
00:49:13.520 --> 00:49:15.010
Andrew Clegg: I would just.
740
00:49:15.010 --> 00:49:24.349
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mentioned before the Judith Claire's and Helen's advantage
hopefully, when you try and click on an attachment.
741
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:26.390
Graham Stoddart-Stones: particularly if it's a photograph.
742
00:49:26.500 --> 00:49:30.689
Graham Stoddart-Stones: you have either the choice of clicking on the green
743
00:49:31.060 --> 00:49:34.829
Graham Stoddart-Stones: cloud. So maybe I can share a screen and show people.
744
00:49:39.070 --> 00:49:43.529
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's go into bins. Alright. Let me share the screen.
745
00:49:48.430 --> 00:49:51.739
tristram cary: Stuart does look very strange when he's looking up at his screen.
746
00:49:51.740 --> 00:49:52.929
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Does, isn't he?
747
00:49:53.190 --> 00:49:56.729
tristram cary: Bit like Rasputin
748
00:49:56.730 --> 00:49:58.529
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. So I've got a screen on.
749
00:49:58.530 --> 00:49:59.820
Stuart Bacon: I've got to sort that out.
750
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:05.100
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I have a screen with bins on it.
751
00:50:05.130 --> 00:50:09.433
Graham Stoddart-Stones: If I go scroll a little bit you can see there are lots of bins.
752
00:50:10.310 --> 00:50:11.150
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
753
00:50:12.290 --> 00:50:12.970
tristram cary: Yeah.
754
00:50:12.970 --> 00:50:15.010
Graham Stoddart-Stones: We've got a photograph
755
00:50:15.020 --> 00:50:16.660
Graham Stoddart-Stones: if I click on that one
756
00:50:18.270 --> 00:50:19.639
Graham Stoddart-Stones: in the attachment.
757
00:50:20.450 --> 00:50:24.100
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the point I'm trying to make for those not familiar with
it
758
00:50:24.250 --> 00:50:38.449
Graham Stoddart-Stones: is that you can either click on the green download button,
which does indeed download a copy of the photograph to you. But if you want to
actually show the photograph to people. Just click on the title over here, and it
suddenly just pops up.
759
00:50:38.450 --> 00:50:39.460
Helen Davey: Oh!
760
00:50:39.460 --> 00:50:40.495
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now you're.
761
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:42.200
tristram cary: I never knew that.
762
00:50:42.200 --> 00:50:54.400
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if you look at our dog bins you'll see it's nice bright
red one, as opposed to our blue regular bin, which isn't. But this is unfortunately
is not the Tardis. It's sad.
763
00:50:55.110 --> 00:50:57.020
Graham Stoddart-Stones: me disappointed that.
764
00:50:57.393 --> 00:50:58.140
Helen Davey: We are.
765
00:50:58.140 --> 00:50:58.470
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Show.
766
00:50:58.470 --> 00:51:00.900
Andrew Clegg: Never tell, really, can you? And you know.
767
00:51:04.510 --> 00:51:07.129
Helen Davey: Why does it come up blue on the screen? In some cases.
768
00:51:07.130 --> 00:51:14.010
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, because, as I mentioned to you, our parish clerk put
the dog bins in as waste bins, so they have the same color.
769
00:51:14.010 --> 00:51:14.490
Helen Davey: Yes, you can.
770
00:51:14.490 --> 00:51:16.769
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Administ dog wins, they come up as red.
771
00:51:17.060 --> 00:51:17.690
Andrew Clegg: Oh!
772
00:51:17.690 --> 00:51:18.610
Helen Davey: Of course.
773
00:51:19.370 --> 00:51:20.599
Helen Davey: Yes, thank you.
774
00:51:20.600 --> 00:51:21.170
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
775
00:51:21.310 --> 00:51:22.310
Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're welcome.
776
00:51:22.310 --> 00:51:28.300
Judith Mashiter: So so Graham, could they now be altered from waste bins to dog bins.
777
00:51:28.570 --> 00:51:34.829
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, the it would be very nice if there were a way of
simply copying it from one layer to the other. But you can't.
778
00:51:35.050 --> 00:51:37.990
Judith Mashiter: Can you not just change the categorization of it?
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No.
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John Roberts: Got to. You've got to replot them in the dog bin layer.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're they're separate layers, Judith and
782
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the
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00:51:50.840 --> 00:52:00.769
Graham Stoddart-Stones: the appeal would appear to be that the dog bin lair is a
national layer, so everybody can see where your dog bins are, but they can't see
where your waste bins are, so your waste.
784
00:52:00.770 --> 00:52:01.130
Stuart Bacon: And support.
785
00:52:01.130 --> 00:52:05.239
Graham Stoddart-Stones: is private to your council, but the dog bins - Everyone can
know about them.
786
00:52:05.570 --> 00:52:09.649
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I suggest you put in very big photographs so we can all
admire them
787
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:11.240
Graham Stoddart-Stones: from afar.
788
00:52:12.590 --> 00:52:16.239
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Quite. Why, one is national and the other is not, I don't know,
but.
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Stuart Bacon: Carries.
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00:52:17.450 --> 00:52:29.289
Stuart Bacon: interrupt you and change that, Graham, because you can. If by going into
each one individually, you can change, copy the detail across from that layer to the
dog Waste bin layer
791
00:52:29.570 --> 00:52:32.610
Stuart Bacon: as as you do the the option is there.
792
00:52:33.190 --> 00:52:33.770
tristram cary: So.
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00:52:33.770 --> 00:52:36.089
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go ahead and show us that, Stuart, if you would please.
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00:52:36.090 --> 00:52:41.850
Stuart Bacon: Yup let me just look at where I was.
795
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.470
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Look up heavenwards
796
00:52:46.330 --> 00:52:46.890
Graham Stoddart-Stones: that.
797
00:52:47.750 --> 00:52:48.950
Stuart Bacon: Right so.
798
00:52:51.120 --> 00:52:55.260
Stuart Bacon: and whatever at the moment, if I had got my bins.
799
00:52:55.730 --> 00:52:59.590
Stuart Bacon: I can click on a bin and then
800
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Stuart Bacon: copy it to
801
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:04.150
Stuart Bacon: whoops
802
00:53:05.010 --> 00:53:06.160
Stuart Bacon: a dog bin.
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00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:12.140
Helen Davey: Possible.
804
00:53:12.630 --> 00:53:13.360
Helen Davey: that.
805
00:53:13.930 --> 00:53:16.839
Stuart Bacon: Any of those fields out.
806
00:53:17.810 --> 00:53:21.039
Graham Stoddart-Stones: It copies the location, but not the the.
807
00:53:21.040 --> 00:53:26.419
Stuart Bacon: No, no, I haven't gotten any of those fields for the bins.
808
00:53:28.192 --> 00:53:34.540
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, I'm sorry that there's a a weird vibration in your
microphone. Then we just didn't hear most of that.
809
00:53:34.540 --> 00:53:37.080
Stuart Bacon: I haven't filled in any of the detail.
810
00:53:37.080 --> 00:53:40.080
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, I see. Okay. So there was no data. Alright.
811
00:53:40.080 --> 00:53:45.690
Stuart Bacon: It was a blank, anyway. Just it's location, not anything else. But
812
00:53:45.850 --> 00:53:46.444
Stuart Bacon: yeah.
813
00:53:47.240 --> 00:53:51.890
Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm delighted you described you discovered that because I
don't think I knew anything about it. How about that
814
00:53:52.380 --> 00:53:58.890
Graham Stoddart-Stones: great? So you can copy data from one bin to? Does it leave the
data in the old one? Or do you have to go back and delete it? Then.
815
00:53:59.890 --> 00:54:00.330
Stuart Bacon: Oh!
816
00:54:00.330 --> 00:54:03.699
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Does it actually change it? Or does it just duplicate it?
817
00:54:07.640 --> 00:54:08.200
Stuart Bacon: Last.
818
00:54:09.520 --> 00:54:11.930
Stuart Bacon: I don't think it. It transfers it.
819
00:54:14.390 --> 00:54:15.110
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, you
820
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:17.050
Graham Stoddart-Stones: have converted.
821
00:54:17.050 --> 00:54:24.790
tristram cary: Presumably that can only work if the fields are the same in 2 different
layers, like dog bins and ordinary bins.
822
00:54:24.790 --> 00:54:26.831
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, but they're they're both
823
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.900
Graham Stoddart-Stones: assets and management layer. So we have no control over that.
824
00:54:31.340 --> 00:54:33.489
Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's entirely a geoxphere thing.
825
00:54:34.420 --> 00:54:38.110
tristram cary: But I mean you couldn't copy. You couldn't copy an object from a
826
00:54:38.860 --> 00:54:45.140
tristram cary: you couldn't copy an object from one layer into any other layer
because the the detailed.
827
00:54:45.140 --> 00:54:45.760
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
828
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.210
tristram cary: Wouldn't look. You wouldn't.
829
00:54:48.610 --> 00:54:50.129
Stuart Bacon: Well, shall we? Shall we try it?
830
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:54.529
Stuart Bacon: Let's try copying a bin to a.
831
00:54:54.830 --> 00:54:56.069
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Building content.
832
00:54:56.070 --> 00:54:57.629
Stuart Bacon: Building content. Yeah, okay.
833
00:54:58.549 --> 00:55:02.009
Stuart Bacon: yeah. You gotta fill in a category. So it's
834
00:55:02.770 --> 00:55:07.675
Stuart Bacon: it's a desktop computer. Yes, it's a rubbish computer.
835
00:55:09.490 --> 00:55:11.549
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very good.
836
00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:26.730
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Interesting. So it is there.
837
00:55:27.820 --> 00:55:28.770
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
838
00:55:31.950 --> 00:55:33.870
Graham Stoddart-Stones: yep, you did manage it.
839
00:55:36.710 --> 00:55:38.710
tristram cary: What, what did you manage? I missed that.
840
00:55:38.710 --> 00:55:45.839
Graham Stoddart-Stones: He copied a dog waste bin into a building contents, desktop
computer. And it's still there. So it worked.
841
00:55:45.990 --> 00:55:47.630
Helen Davey: No yes.
842
00:55:48.560 --> 00:55:49.480
tristram cary: Don't see.
843
00:55:49.630 --> 00:55:55.810
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which I well, I love the idea of it being a "rubbish" computer,
I think that's fantastic.
844
00:55:55.810 --> 00:55:57.410
Andrew Clegg: Be very confusing, couldn't it?
845
00:55:57.410 --> 00:56:02.629
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very well done. It could be very confusing, but I think it's
an extremely useful tip to learn. Thank you.
846
00:56:02.870 --> 00:56:05.259
Graham Stoddart-Stones: because I certainly was unaware of that.
847
00:56:08.130 --> 00:56:08.900
Graham Stoddart-Stones: good.
848
00:56:10.070 --> 00:56:13.549
Helen Davey: By the way, if I if you get an email from me
849
00:56:13.690 --> 00:56:15.680
Helen Davey: about tinned meat.
850
00:56:16.050 --> 00:56:17.430
Helen Davey: don't open it.
851
00:56:17.630 --> 00:56:18.330
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
852
00:56:18.330 --> 00:56:19.270
Helen Davey: Just.
853
00:56:19.270 --> 00:56:22.690
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have you been telling a lot of people about.
854
00:56:23.230 --> 00:56:25.099
Helen Davey: How are you, Bob? Oh, dear.
855
00:56:25.100 --> 00:56:26.959
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Been hacked. Have you right.
856
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:28.739
Helen Davey: No, it was just a joke. I saw.
857
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.479
Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'll tend to.
858
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:32.970
Helen Davey: Every now and again.
859
00:56:32.970 --> 00:56:33.970
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright!
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00:56:35.350 --> 00:56:43.199
Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right, gentlemen, ladies, we're reaching towards the end
of the session. Is there anyone with a burning question that just has to be answered
right now?
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00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:49.243
Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I can't say why I'm looking at you, Claire, but I'm
looking at you, Claire.
862
00:56:49.883 --> 00:57:04.440
Claire Mortimer: Where would I access some videos to sort of give myself a bit
of a boost with parish online? Because I clearly don't know as much as you guys. And I
would like to know more.
863
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:11.140
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if you, if you go up into what's called the help and
support system, which is that cog wheel on the top right again.
864
00:57:11.200 --> 00:57:14.700
Graham Stoddart-Stones: and even with your level of usage you should have access to
that.
865
00:57:15.860 --> 00:57:26.319
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And there's something called help and support. And then you
can type in any topic you like, or you can go to the knowledge base, and you'll see
all the topics that are listed.
866
00:57:26.450 --> 00:57:33.479
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then every topic comes in 2 parts. Each part has a video
to show you how it works.
867
00:57:33.640 --> 00:57:39.430
Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then, a step by step, set of instructions to actually
guide you through how you make it work.
868
00:57:40.370 --> 00:57:41.650
Claire Mortimer: Lovely.
869
00:57:41.650 --> 00:57:44.390
Graham Stoddart-Stones: A lot of videos there, one for each topic.
870
00:57:44.832 --> 00:57:50.689
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then there, I'll send you a list of a whole bunch of
layers. But if you Google parish online.
871
00:57:51.188 --> 00:57:54.670
Graham Stoddart-Stones: you'll get a whole list of training videos that they've done
in the past
872
00:57:55.700 --> 00:57:56.660
Graham Stoddart-Stones: course.
873
00:57:56.660 --> 00:57:59.700
Stuart Bacon: Put a link in for Youtube for the parish online channel.
874
00:58:00.630 --> 00:58:03.320
Claire Mortimer: Oh, lovely! Thank you.
875
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:07.010
Claire Mortimer: It was amazing.
876
00:58:08.470 --> 00:58:13.339
Claire Mortimer: I shall go and watch lots of videos over the weekend.
877
00:58:13.340 --> 00:58:17.165
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hopefully. Yes, exactly. Your your weekend is now fixed.
878
00:58:19.350 --> 00:58:22.469
Claire Mortimer: Fantastic. Thank you so much for your help.
879
00:58:22.470 --> 00:58:26.060
Graham Stoddart-Stones: It was a pleasure lovely to have you join us. I hope you'll
come back.
880
00:58:26.370 --> 00:58:30.420
Claire Mortimer: Definitely will. Next time we'll have video. I don't know what's
going on with it today.
881
00:58:30.420 --> 00:58:35.430
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, Stuart, you put it online. That's brilliant. So Stuart's
put the address in the chat, if you haven't seen it.
882
00:58:35.830 --> 00:58:36.810
Claire Mortimer: Yeah.
883
00:58:36.810 --> 00:58:37.450
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Brilliant.
884
00:58:37.940 --> 00:58:39.939
Claire Mortimer: Lovely. Thank you.
885
00:58:41.050 --> 00:58:48.409
Graham Stoddart-Stones: May I welcome you all to the weekend? Then hope you're all
going off drinking large quantities of sangria and cider, and whatever else is up
and
886
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:55.360
Graham Stoddart-Stones: see you next week. For those of you who weren't here when we
started. We will be getting Angie back next week.
887
00:58:56.085 --> 00:58:58.399
Graham Stoddart-Stones: So look forward to seeing her.
888
00:58:58.560 --> 00:59:04.979
Graham Stoddart-Stones: and if anyone has any particular topics they wish to have
addressed next week, by all means, please email me.
889
00:59:05.830 --> 00:59:06.660
Claire Mortimer: I think, okay.
890
00:59:06.660 --> 00:59:08.370
Graham Stoddart-Stones: See you all. Take care.
891
00:59:08.370 --> 00:59:11.099
Claire Mortimer: Thank you.