Assets & Maintenance collection vs Parish Layers, Flooding, Tithe Maps, Aerials, Printing, Public maps, Neighbourhood Plans, Green spaces
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00:00 - 09:10 Assets & Maintenance collection vs Parish Layers
09:10 - 21:37 Flooding, Tithe maps, aerial photos, Printing
21:37 - 40:00 Public Maps - what they do and how to use them
40:00 - 46:35 Flooding, Tithe Maps
46:35 - 49:56 (end) Banter re Neighbourhood Plans, Green Spaces
00:12:24 Graham Stoddart-Stones: https://chagosconsulting.com/ gives the details on training
00:20:47 David Newman: add an attachment?
00:39:21 John Roberts: For Nodes take a look at https://docs.os.uk/osngd/data-structure/water/water-network
00:39:52 Sarah Barnett: thank you John
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1 00:00:22.910 --> 00:00:23.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good finish.
2 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:09.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Wow!
3 00:06:26.750 --> 00:06:27.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
4 00:06:32.860 --> 00:06:33.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh.
5 00:06:34.470 --> 00:06:35.569 Graham Stoddart-Stones: just wait.
6 00:06:35.940 --> 00:06:39.009 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sorry. I didn't hear you arriving.
7 00:06:39.390 --> 00:06:41.342 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's busy typing away.
8 00:06:42.030 --> 00:06:43.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon, David.
9 00:06:48.870 --> 00:06:51.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I can hear you coughing, but not actually saying anything
10 00:06:51.970 --> 00:06:52.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but
11 00:06:52.790 --> 00:06:53.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: David.
12 00:06:53.310 --> 00:06:57.250 John Roberts: I'm gonna mute him. I'm gonna mute slightly because there's somebody talking beside me.
13 00:06:57.250 --> 00:06:58.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
14 00:06:59.760 --> 00:07:00.939 David Newman: Can you hear me now?
15 00:07:01.170 --> 00:07:02.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's much better. Yes.
16 00:07:03.180 --> 00:07:03.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: alright
17 00:07:04.910 --> 00:07:05.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: up.
18 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:20.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We have a raw grey day on the Isle of Work.
19 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.809 John Roberts: Yeah, it's about the same here, I have to admit.
20 00:07:28.290 --> 00:07:29.879 John Roberts: Not a very nice day.
21 00:07:29.880 --> 00:07:31.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You haven't got the Lurgi. John.
22 00:07:32.170 --> 00:07:32.830 John Roberts: Nope.
23 00:07:33.130 --> 00:07:34.000 John Roberts: no, no.
24 00:07:34.910 --> 00:07:36.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's suffering severely around here.
25 00:07:37.810 --> 00:07:41.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, David. Thank you. See that.
26 00:07:45.060 --> 00:07:47.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hello, Ray. Nice to see you.
27 00:07:48.890 --> 00:07:50.040 John Roberts: Afternoon, Chris.
28 00:07:50.180 --> 00:07:51.710 chris edwards: Oh, good afternoon!
29 00:07:53.420 --> 00:07:56.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think we've got a silence issue with Ray at the moment.
30 00:07:56.840 --> 00:07:57.970 Ray Toomer: Can you hear me?
31 00:07:57.970 --> 00:07:59.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yes, that's special.
32 00:07:59.700 --> 00:08:00.340 Ray Toomer: Is.
33 00:08:01.310 --> 00:08:04.162 chris edwards: Have you? Have you updated your zoom
34 00:08:05.330 --> 00:08:06.260 chris edwards: stuff?
35 00:08:06.550 --> 00:08:11.349 chris edwards: Because I've I had trouble in actually joining the meeting today.
36 00:08:13.190 --> 00:08:30.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And oh, they, of course. Yes, there is a new version out which changes all sorts of things very irritatingly. You know how you go around the supermarkets, and nothing's where you saw it last. Zoom is now exactly the same, you know instinctively where to go to get what you want to do, and it isn't there any longer.
37 00:08:30.880 --> 00:08:31.490 chris edwards: Yes.
38 00:08:31.490 --> 00:08:33.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's infuriating when they do that.
39 00:08:36.710 --> 00:08:41.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nobody as good at it as Microsoft is, though every new version of windows is so completely different.
40 00:08:43.530 --> 00:08:47.929 chris edwards: Well, I'm I'm standing up for windows. Sorry I can't agree with you, Graham.
41 00:08:48.690 --> 00:08:50.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, the world is
42 00:08:51.710 --> 00:08:54.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: those who know and those who just do.
43 00:08:54.980 --> 00:08:56.146 chris edwards: Okay, so.
44 00:08:59.045 --> 00:08:59.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good.
45 00:08:59.410 --> 00:09:04.590 David Newman: Used windows. In fact, zoom doesn't change its in Linux interface very much.
46 00:09:06.050 --> 00:09:06.620 chris edwards: Oh!
47 00:09:07.420 --> 00:09:08.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
48 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I found I got used when I was running an it company. I had to have
49 00:09:14.040 --> 00:09:16.839 Graham Stoddart-Stones: all 3 versions of the world running.
50 00:09:16.870 --> 00:09:21.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: depending on who was calling, so that I could sort of at least imitate what they were up to.
51 00:09:22.030 --> 00:09:25.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I found that I've I've not been able to get away from that.
52 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:32.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I've still got a couple of Macs and a Linux machine running on the time, but I only ever turn the windows machine on when
53 00:09:34.590 --> 00:09:35.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: all else fails.
54 00:09:41.740 --> 00:09:48.569 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I have strong suspicion that we may be the sum total of today's contributors.
55 00:09:50.810 --> 00:09:53.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which is wonderful for
56 00:09:53.400 --> 00:10:03.300 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Ray and David in particular, because if you've come with questions you've got twice as many people to answer you as there are. You.
57 00:10:06.100 --> 00:10:08.809 John Roberts: What Graham means is he's going to put you on the spot.
58 00:10:09.180 --> 00:10:16.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, yes, I was gonna leave. Let at least 15 seconds lapse before I said so. Come on, then, what's the question?
59 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:19.460 David Newman: Simple.
60 00:10:19.690 --> 00:10:22.230 David Newman: We finally got approved
61 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:29.810 David Newman: to join parish online, and our clerk will do that on Monday. So I want to know
62 00:10:29.820 --> 00:10:41.919 David Newman: what training is available, and what people remember as the 1st thing they learned and found useful when they were doing when they started using parish online.
63 00:10:43.020 --> 00:10:47.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I'll I'll put a link to the training in the chat for you, David.
64 00:10:47.710 --> 00:10:49.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I'll leave
65 00:10:49.210 --> 00:10:59.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: John and Andrew as the 2 oldest members in terms of how long they've been using the system. But Chris is probably the best for memory, because he's the the
66 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:00.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: more recent arrival.
67 00:11:01.630 --> 00:11:07.170 chris edwards: Well, a tip for you is is to go on to parish online, look at their knowledge base
68 00:11:07.220 --> 00:11:08.960 chris edwards: click on the
69 00:11:09.060 --> 00:11:10.700 chris edwards: videos
70 00:11:11.060 --> 00:11:12.560 chris edwards: and start
71 00:11:12.860 --> 00:11:17.489 chris edwards: by watching the videos, and you'll gain a lot of information.
72 00:11:18.450 --> 00:11:20.030 chris edwards: So that's my advice.
73 00:11:23.540 --> 00:11:24.320 chris edwards: Yeah.
74 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:25.610 John Roberts: I would second that
75 00:11:28.110 --> 00:11:28.820 John Roberts: face.
76 00:11:29.260 --> 00:11:31.030 John Roberts: The knowledge base is good.
77 00:11:31.732 --> 00:11:36.979 John Roberts: If you type, in a word, that you're looking for, it will take you to where you need to go.
78 00:11:38.045 --> 00:11:41.604 John Roberts: Like, Chris said, the videos are quite informative
79 00:11:43.030 --> 00:11:45.120 John Roberts: and logical, I would say
80 00:11:46.627 --> 00:11:52.859 John Roberts: and then, obviously, in regards to training Graham's the expert on that, because he does most of it.
81 00:11:53.780 --> 00:11:54.365 John Roberts: But
82 00:11:56.560 --> 00:11:59.639 John Roberts: we were. We were thrown in at the deep end. And
83 00:11:59.880 --> 00:12:02.180 John Roberts: yeah, did. We had to work our way around it.
84 00:12:06.029 --> 00:12:13.059 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, one or 2 things. I I probably do things differently from from most most people.
85 00:12:17.590 --> 00:12:24.749 Andrew Clegg: started parish online, not because it's it was parish online. I needed a mapping software.
86 00:12:25.290 --> 00:12:34.159 Andrew Clegg: And I tried all kinds of things. And I decided that they were all. Really, I didn't understand them except Google seemed to be quite good.
87 00:12:34.820 --> 00:12:43.389 Andrew Clegg: But when I got into parish online, what I did was what I do with most bits of software when I'm meeting it for the 1st time is set aside a day
88 00:12:43.850 --> 00:12:45.220 Andrew Clegg: and just play.
89 00:12:46.450 --> 00:12:58.479 Andrew Clegg: Just go there and draw map, draw map layers and find out what what you know follow follow their rather good videos. But that that's what I do. But that's what I tend to do with
90 00:12:58.760 --> 00:13:00.950 Andrew Clegg: new software. Anyway.
91 00:13:06.410 --> 00:13:08.002 Andrew Clegg: That's made everybody quiet.
92 00:13:09.089 --> 00:13:09.780 chris edwards: Bye.
93 00:13:10.370 --> 00:13:15.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I was actually just pondering David's question, wasn't it? What was the most memorable thing you 1st
94 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:16.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: recall.
95 00:13:17.060 --> 00:13:26.079 David Newman: It, for I mean, I'm trying to get a feeling of your early experiences and what it was useful for, and what worked and what didn't, and that.
96 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:27.120 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Good thing.
97 00:13:27.270 --> 00:13:34.889 Andrew Clegg: I that's why I spent a day on it. I didn't. I didn't know what it was useful for until I found out what it did
98 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:38.740 Andrew Clegg: and what I could do with it.
99 00:13:38.740 --> 00:13:45.139 David Newman: John, you said you were dropped into it. What was the what were you trying to do when you were dropped in.
100 00:13:52.880 --> 00:13:55.200 Andrew Clegg: You're you're you're muted, John.
101 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:56.160 John Roberts: Realize that.
102 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:03.319 John Roberts: Sorry we we started out using it to map out planning application and things like that. So
103 00:14:03.850 --> 00:14:07.790 John Roberts: basically, we we had to learn how to do that, and
104 00:14:08.030 --> 00:14:12.320 John Roberts: most of that knowledge, I will say, came from these Friday afternoon sessions.
105 00:14:12.570 --> 00:14:13.290 Andrew Clegg: Hmm.
106 00:14:13.710 --> 00:14:16.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, my hero, what a person! Oh.
107 00:14:17.160 --> 00:14:17.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you're scared!
108 00:14:17.850 --> 00:14:20.670 John Roberts: Because there are a lot of people on these sessions besides great.
109 00:14:20.670 --> 00:14:21.880 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah.
110 00:14:22.450 --> 00:14:23.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
111 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:24.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: yeah. And.
112 00:14:24.765 --> 00:14:28.170 Andrew Clegg: I learned, despite the Friday afternoon sessions during.
113 00:14:31.530 --> 00:14:32.700 John Roberts: But the.
114 00:14:32.700 --> 00:14:34.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sarah. Nice to see you.
115 00:14:34.150 --> 00:14:34.600 Sarah Barnett: Hello!
116 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:35.909 John Roberts: If you, if you like.
117 00:14:36.710 --> 00:14:41.349 John Roberts: the wrong way to put it. But one of the problems with parish online
118 00:14:41.490 --> 00:14:44.880 John Roberts: is, there is so much knowledge embedded in it.
119 00:14:45.370 --> 00:14:46.140 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
120 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.119 John Roberts: That you forget to look
121 00:14:48.870 --> 00:14:51.490 John Roberts: where you, you forget to go and find it.
122 00:14:51.510 --> 00:14:54.839 John Roberts: and so you'll struggle on and on and on, but the
123 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:59.929 John Roberts: the knowledge is there, you've got to find it. And this is why, like Chris was saying.
124 00:15:00.060 --> 00:15:01.020 John Roberts: the
125 00:15:01.220 --> 00:15:04.450 John Roberts: the help pages that they've got are really good.
126 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:12.870 John Roberts: and and if you get, if you get stuck or there's something you can't do, you can email Chris, that
127 00:15:13.010 --> 00:15:14.810 John Roberts: gsphere.
128 00:15:15.070 --> 00:15:16.850 John Roberts: and they'll come back with an answer.
129 00:15:18.730 --> 00:15:27.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: David does. What was the deciding factor for you and the clock to decide that you did want to online? Is there something specific you wanted to do with it?
130 00:15:28.280 --> 00:15:29.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh.
131 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.979 David Newman: We're just starting to develop a neighbourhood plan.
132 00:15:32.870 --> 00:15:33.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes!
133 00:15:33.610 --> 00:15:37.120 Andrew Clegg: That's exactly what I was doing. And I needed maps.
134 00:15:37.990 --> 00:15:42.130 Andrew Clegg: And somebody said, Oh, try parish online. So that's what we did.
135 00:15:44.070 --> 00:15:47.000 chris edwards: Go ahead if you don't mind. I've got a question.
136 00:15:47.620 --> 00:15:49.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Grace, you're heaven sent.
137 00:15:50.607 --> 00:15:53.829 chris edwards: So can I share my screen.
138 00:15:54.420 --> 00:15:55.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do, please.
139 00:16:00.660 --> 00:16:06.329 chris edwards: Okay. Now then, this is to do with our Sid.
140 00:16:06.430 --> 00:16:08.039 chris edwards: which is positioned
141 00:16:08.300 --> 00:16:10.850 chris edwards: on the main road in our parish.
142 00:16:10.850 --> 00:16:12.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've got 3 of them.
143 00:16:12.290 --> 00:16:14.760 chris edwards: Well, this is this is my question.
144 00:16:15.313 --> 00:16:24.409 chris edwards: If I've stuck the Sid in the assets and maintenance. Layer, yeah. So if I scroll down to the sub layer.
145 00:16:24.570 --> 00:16:27.240 chris edwards: outdoor property and street furniture.
146 00:16:29.610 --> 00:16:32.979 chris edwards: My! My query and question is this.
147 00:16:33.250 --> 00:16:34.860 chris edwards: if I click on
148 00:16:35.020 --> 00:16:36.360 chris edwards: this one
149 00:16:36.780 --> 00:16:42.619 chris edwards: on the left, you'll see that this is the main item, the speed indicator device.
150 00:16:43.040 --> 00:16:47.859 chris edwards: the model number where it's situated when we purchased it.
151 00:16:48.572 --> 00:16:54.560 chris edwards: Who's who's carrying out the maintenance, who is the contractor? And so on, and so on. So on.
152 00:16:55.603 --> 00:17:00.520 chris edwards: Now, we've added 2 or 3 items of equipment to
153 00:17:01.547 --> 00:17:04.180 chris edwards: improve the the
154 00:17:05.089 --> 00:17:07.060 chris edwards: the operation of the Sid.
155 00:17:07.380 --> 00:17:10.129 chris edwards: But I can't find a way to
156 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:16.719 chris edwards: insert these additions on on the, on the notes you see here.
157 00:17:17.280 --> 00:17:19.000 chris edwards: So what I've done.
158 00:17:19.130 --> 00:17:21.820 chris edwards: let me just turn that one off for a moment.
159 00:17:23.550 --> 00:17:25.289 chris edwards: The second one.
160 00:17:25.520 --> 00:17:26.980 chris edwards: I'll click on that.
161 00:17:27.490 --> 00:17:33.439 chris edwards: This tells me that we've fitted a post which costs us about 250 pounds.
162 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:34.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
163 00:17:34.230 --> 00:17:36.150 chris edwards: No problem about that.
164 00:17:36.290 --> 00:17:38.780 chris edwards: Then the second item here
165 00:17:39.130 --> 00:17:45.529 chris edwards: is, we've had to purchase an extension to the post with various fittings, because
166 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.380 chris edwards: the CID has become vandalized by Yobos.
167 00:17:49.670 --> 00:17:56.670 chris edwards: So now what I'd like to do is incorporate all the 3 things under one layer.
168 00:17:57.060 --> 00:17:58.469 chris edwards: but I find that
169 00:17:58.790 --> 00:18:02.939 chris edwards: I can't do that, because the information that I wanted to put
170 00:18:04.330 --> 00:18:08.980 chris edwards: Yes, if if I sorry to keep on jumping backwards and forwards.
171 00:18:09.390 --> 00:18:12.460 chris edwards: Here's here's the main Sid details.
172 00:18:12.650 --> 00:18:20.319 chris edwards: We don't we? I don't have the information slots to put the additional equipment
173 00:18:20.570 --> 00:18:21.710 chris edwards: in here.
174 00:18:22.560 --> 00:18:26.560 chris edwards: What would you suggest? I do. And lastly.
175 00:18:27.145 --> 00:18:27.659 chris edwards: the.
176 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.090 chris edwards: The the main one is in assets and maintenance.
177 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:33.700 chris edwards: the other 2 are in
178 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.699 chris edwards: ordinary parish lairs
179 00:18:36.710 --> 00:18:39.599 chris edwards: under speed indicator device.
180 00:18:40.220 --> 00:18:43.799 chris edwards: Any suggestions to to group everything together.
181 00:18:45.490 --> 00:18:46.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Who's
182 00:18:46.300 --> 00:18:49.669 Graham Stoddart-Stones: something wrong there, Chris. It's not in an ordinary parish lair
183 00:18:51.380 --> 00:18:51.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it would be.
184 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:55.951 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've called it that. Yes, okay, I'm sorry. Yeah.
185 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:05.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: well, this is the classic issue with the assets and maintenance layer, because you're using the infrastructure that geosphere provides.
186 00:19:05.700 --> 00:19:09.809 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You don't have the freedom to make changes that you'd like to change. So you.
187 00:19:09.810 --> 00:19:10.400 chris edwards: Exactly.
188 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.299 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Choices are either
189 00:19:12.580 --> 00:19:15.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that you use some of those UN
190 00:19:16.420 --> 00:19:29.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: unwanted slots or unused slots in there, so that although you're calling for I don't know the extra post you can you be able to mark it as notes, or something, or under notes?
191 00:19:29.900 --> 00:19:30.720 chris edwards: Yep.
192 00:19:31.228 --> 00:19:33.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or you give up
193 00:19:33.300 --> 00:19:39.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: using the assets and maintenance layer for your seeds, and just use the one in the parish layers which you.
194 00:19:39.600 --> 00:19:40.230 chris edwards: Yes.
195 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:48.950 chris edwards: I've been toying with that idea, and I'll probably go with it and shut down the one under assets and maintenance, which which is a shame, but there we are!
196 00:19:48.950 --> 00:20:00.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is, unless you're happy to sort of use inspector, as one of the other titles. And you already got an insure? Well, yeah, the other ones that lend themselves very much.
197 00:20:00.050 --> 00:20:00.680 chris edwards: No.
198 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:01.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No.
199 00:20:01.450 --> 00:20:10.039 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think it is a major drawback to the assets and maintenance infrastructure is that you don't have any control over it. Unfortunately, no freedom to adjust.
200 00:20:10.040 --> 00:20:11.489 chris edwards: Yes, yes.
201 00:20:11.490 --> 00:20:11.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So.
202 00:20:11.890 --> 00:20:12.660 chris edwards: Okay.
203 00:20:12.660 --> 00:20:17.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think you're on the right track, but I think you're going to end up saying I'm going to have to create my own layer.
204 00:20:17.900 --> 00:20:20.699 chris edwards: Yeah, okay, thank you very much for that.
205 00:20:21.020 --> 00:20:30.369 Andrew Clegg: What I do. Sorry what I I do not. It's a rather different circumstances, but when I want to add extra information.
206 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:40.200 Andrew Clegg: I usually I've what I create all my own layers. This is X map I'm using. I can usually put
207 00:20:40.290 --> 00:20:45.357 Andrew Clegg: a sort of a note in a notes
208 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:56.019 Andrew Clegg: space that I've got on all of them. But the other thing I I do is if I want to add a lot of extra information, I just put it all in a text file
209 00:20:56.170 --> 00:21:01.389 Andrew Clegg: and and save it, you know, at the bottom where you can, where you can add add files.
210 00:21:01.540 --> 00:21:02.110 chris edwards: Hmm.
211 00:21:02.520 --> 00:21:04.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or do you just add it as an attachment.
212 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:06.139 Andrew Clegg: As a detachment. Yeah.
213 00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:06.590 chris edwards: Yes.
214 00:21:06.590 --> 00:21:08.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I agree. I I think that is a neatest.
215 00:21:08.830 --> 00:21:09.490 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
216 00:21:09.790 --> 00:21:10.410 chris edwards: Yeah.
217 00:21:11.584 --> 00:21:16.915 chris edwards: while while I'm sharing my screen and hogging the hogging this session.
218 00:21:18.060 --> 00:21:25.160 chris edwards: David, we we've got a situation on the main road here, where
219 00:21:25.560 --> 00:21:27.449 chris edwards: you can see my cursor.
220 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:35.799 chris edwards: there's a sort of a verge which happens to be a very, very steep bank of earth and trees and shrubbery.
221 00:21:36.020 --> 00:21:38.520 chris edwards: and we've had a number of landslips.
222 00:21:38.580 --> 00:21:44.540 chris edwards: So so the stuff has has cascaded down onto the roadway and and the footway.
223 00:21:45.900 --> 00:21:51.760 chris edwards: I'll just take you through what we find parish online really excellent for
224 00:21:52.850 --> 00:21:54.310 chris edwards: let me
225 00:21:54.320 --> 00:21:57.049 chris edwards: let me go into
226 00:22:00.290 --> 00:22:01.870 chris edwards: if I can find
227 00:22:01.890 --> 00:22:04.998 chris edwards: the actual sorry about this.
228 00:22:05.770 --> 00:22:07.609 chris edwards: what I've made use of.
229 00:22:08.150 --> 00:22:13.540 chris edwards: Sorry is is something from our district or our County Council.
230 00:22:14.360 --> 00:22:16.660 chris edwards: I want to show where
231 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:19.890 chris edwards: the streetlights are.
232 00:22:20.090 --> 00:22:25.610 chris edwards: So I click on the street lights, and up comes these yellow
233 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:27.540 chris edwards: diamond shapes.
234 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:31.730 chris edwards: And that's important, because we've got a meeting with highways.
235 00:22:31.780 --> 00:22:36.310 chris edwards: and we want to see exactly where these landslips
236 00:22:36.410 --> 00:22:39.730 chris edwards: are. So I've included the
237 00:22:40.050 --> 00:22:44.400 chris edwards: the lamp posts, and also I've included.
238 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:49.455 chris edwards: What am I thinking of?
239 00:22:51.980 --> 00:22:55.099 chris edwards: give me a second. Give me a second
240 00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:58.860 chris edwards: addresses.
241 00:23:01.340 --> 00:23:07.379 chris edwards: So I click on addresses, address, base plus points which I think we talked about last week.
242 00:23:07.800 --> 00:23:09.399 chris edwards: And hey, presto!
243 00:23:09.450 --> 00:23:12.749 chris edwards: All all these houses here have now got
244 00:23:13.362 --> 00:23:21.330 chris edwards: the the house names. Now this we're going to do. A walk along this main road on Monday
245 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:30.359 chris edwards: with the engineers from highways, so we need to know each of the house names, so we can speak to the owners where
246 00:23:30.420 --> 00:23:33.300 chris edwards: their their garden line here
247 00:23:33.800 --> 00:23:37.550 chris edwards: has started to fall down onto the roadway.
248 00:23:37.990 --> 00:23:41.899 chris edwards: And this is a serious matter, of course. So
249 00:23:42.020 --> 00:23:48.079 chris edwards: we can build up a good picture. I can print this this, what you this map off.
250 00:23:48.190 --> 00:23:54.199 chris edwards: and then we can do this. Walk along the main road, and sort of make our notes
251 00:23:54.760 --> 00:23:57.420 chris edwards: according to how much of a landslip
252 00:23:57.700 --> 00:24:00.590 chris edwards: there is, and what what needs to be done.
253 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:06.479 chris edwards: So this has been a good exercise for us to actually bring up on a map
254 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.979 chris edwards: helpful points, reference points.
255 00:24:10.661 --> 00:24:16.810 chris edwards: and so I'll probably give you an idea of what happens after the meeting next week's session.
256 00:24:17.350 --> 00:24:20.920 chris edwards: Anyway, I just thought I'd give you an example of how useful
257 00:24:21.370 --> 00:24:23.839 chris edwards: the buildup of this information is.
258 00:24:24.290 --> 00:24:26.985 chris edwards: anyway, I'm going to shut up now
259 00:24:28.020 --> 00:24:28.690 chris edwards: on this.
260 00:24:28.690 --> 00:24:29.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But yeah.
261 00:24:29.280 --> 00:24:30.470 chris edwards: Somebody else.
262 00:24:30.470 --> 00:24:39.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's an interesting point, Chris. If you take your smartphone or your tablet with you, you can have it all right there in front of you as you're walking along.
263 00:24:39.340 --> 00:24:40.160 chris edwards: Yes.
264 00:24:40.270 --> 00:24:41.040 chris edwards: Yeah.
265 00:24:41.040 --> 00:24:41.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And
266 00:24:41.820 --> 00:24:45.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which can be either an irritation or a real help.
267 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:56.539 chris edwards: Yes, I mean, I've I've printed off those maps so that we can, you know, just jot down things as it comes to mind on our walk. Yeah. E- easier than doing it on a smartphone.
268 00:24:56.810 --> 00:24:58.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, it just
269 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:04.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: interesting, Sarah. Let's ask you formally if you've arrived with a question to ask, please.
270 00:25:05.050 --> 00:25:10.259 Sarah Barnett: Not a particularly formulated one. I'm quite interested in where
271 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:23.520 Sarah Barnett: water is, and looking at water layers around our small village, just thinking about flooding and flooding applications, but mainly I've come here to just lurk and listen to the discussion.
272 00:25:23.930 --> 00:25:29.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Look I well, are you familiar with sharing your screen in zoom?
273 00:25:30.630 --> 00:25:31.710 Sarah Barnett: Yes.
274 00:25:31.990 --> 00:25:36.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And do you have access to parish online at the moment on your computer?
275 00:25:36.748 --> 00:25:39.840 Sarah Barnett: I it. It's open somewhere.
276 00:25:40.090 --> 00:25:42.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you share your screen.
277 00:25:45.290 --> 00:25:51.009 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which is the green button at the bottom of your screen. When you move the mouse there it'll come up with the green button.
278 00:25:51.010 --> 00:25:51.985 Sarah Barnett: Queue.
279 00:25:53.410 --> 00:25:54.350 Sarah Barnett: That's
280 00:25:56.230 --> 00:26:01.290 Sarah Barnett: sorry. I have, of course, got far too many things open right here it is.
281 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:05.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Perfect.
282 00:26:05.650 --> 00:26:13.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? So if you go to the top of the left hand column, there's a little magnifying glass, so you can click on.
283 00:26:14.060 --> 00:26:16.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now type in the word flood.
284 00:26:19.740 --> 00:26:20.410 Sarah Barnett: Oh!
285 00:26:24.950 --> 00:26:33.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And what that does is show you the collections that have got flood information in it. And if you go down to the bottom one, the environment agency and click on that.
286 00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:38.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then you can choose just out of interest. Choose, say, zone 3
287 00:26:39.140 --> 00:26:40.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: on the layers there
288 00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:42.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and turn it on.
289 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:47.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Here you go, and then there's your flooding that you can expect to see
290 00:26:47.320 --> 00:26:53.839 Graham Stoddart-Stones: at that level, and you can, and it's the same for all the others. It'll just vary depending on which layer you choose.
291 00:26:54.220 --> 00:26:58.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but it that brings the flooding up that the environment agency knows about
292 00:26:58.990 --> 00:27:00.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: on a regular basis.
293 00:27:02.100 --> 00:27:06.429 Sarah Barnett: Okay. And then if I do from surface water, I'm.
294 00:27:06.950 --> 00:27:10.469 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup. You can see it gets a lot more extensive that way.
295 00:27:10.580 --> 00:27:11.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
296 00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:17.230 Sarah Barnett: Absolutely that that looks more like it. Yes, good. Thank you very much.
297 00:27:17.608 --> 00:27:19.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We aim to please.
298 00:27:20.180 --> 00:27:21.346 chris edwards: As as
299 00:27:22.030 --> 00:27:27.190 chris edwards: Andrew, who said earlier in this meeting, just play around
300 00:27:27.450 --> 00:27:32.079 chris edwards: with all those sub layers. Click on, click off, click on, click off.
301 00:27:32.140 --> 00:27:34.340 chris edwards: and you'll be able be able to build up
302 00:27:34.550 --> 00:27:35.820 chris edwards: a picture of
303 00:27:36.150 --> 00:27:37.750 chris edwards: historical flooding.
304 00:27:42.530 --> 00:27:43.510 Sarah Barnett: Thank you.
305 00:27:43.690 --> 00:27:46.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And trying to remember which part of the world you're in.
306 00:27:46.850 --> 00:27:47.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sarah.
307 00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:50.870 Sarah Barnett: In Bucklendingham, near Froome, in Somerset.
308 00:27:51.330 --> 00:27:52.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. So
309 00:27:55.990 --> 00:28:00.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Why did I mention that? Oh, because you get the Summitage Heritage information
310 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:09.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which we've discussed in earlier sessions, where you can pick up the tithe maps from a century and a half ago or 2 centuries ago.
311 00:28:09.810 --> 00:28:28.569 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and it's been very interesting to show where all the water was, and then surprise. Surprise. People are finding, particularly in Chris's area, that their new houses are getting flooded because they're sitting on top of water. That was well known about 200 years ago, and everyone's forgotten about since.
312 00:28:28.930 --> 00:28:33.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's another interesting thing for you to pick up on. There's a a
313 00:28:34.270 --> 00:28:39.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: a layer or a collection called Somerset, HER. Or Somerset Heritage. Something like that.
314 00:28:40.848 --> 00:28:45.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you got Somerset heritage is your bottom green one there, the bottom green one.
315 00:28:45.330 --> 00:28:46.690 Sarah Barnett: Oh, yes, thank you.
316 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you get the tithe maps there.
317 00:28:49.990 --> 00:28:54.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and it's sometimes quite interesting to see how the water from there is still
318 00:28:54.800 --> 00:28:56.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: available or visible today.
319 00:28:57.630 --> 00:28:59.500 chris edwards: Sarah, if you zoom in.
320 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.129 chris edwards: That might help to illustrate. Yeah.
321 00:29:07.750 --> 00:29:08.930 Sarah Barnett: Yes.
322 00:29:09.990 --> 00:29:11.960 Sarah Barnett: well, that's very interesting.
323 00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:19.959 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's fun, isn't it? Just whilst we're here? Do you know about the overhead photography, the aerial photography.
324 00:29:21.238 --> 00:29:23.270 Sarah Barnett: I haven't explored it.
325 00:29:23.270 --> 00:29:29.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So to make life easier, turn off the other layers you have on first.st Otherwise it gets a bit complicated.
326 00:29:30.060 --> 00:29:30.540 Sarah Barnett: Okay.
327 00:29:30.540 --> 00:29:34.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That one and go down to your flooding layers. The environment agency.
328 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:38.680 Sarah Barnett: Oh, right I didn't put those back in.
329 00:29:38.900 --> 00:29:41.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's all right. Just if you tap in flood it'll find it.
330 00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:45.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, and then you can just turn those 2 off.
331 00:29:46.790 --> 00:29:48.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Come down a bit. There you go!
332 00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:49.390 chris edwards: Nothing.
333 00:29:50.610 --> 00:29:51.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: These don't.
334 00:29:51.490 --> 00:29:52.580 chris edwards: Not not on the call.
335 00:29:52.580 --> 00:29:53.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Picking the layer that
336 00:29:54.250 --> 00:29:55.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: there, there you go, and that one.
337 00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:56.633 Sarah Barnett: Thank you.
338 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:03.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. Now, if you go scrolling back up to the top of the columns, you can click on the sorry click on the flood box to turn it off.
339 00:30:05.270 --> 00:30:07.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, just click on the X.
340 00:30:07.080 --> 00:30:07.750 Sarah Barnett: Okay.
341 00:30:08.080 --> 00:30:13.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now you can go to aerial photography and click on the 1st layer called aerial photography latest.
342 00:30:14.590 --> 00:30:23.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And there's a lot of data coming down so that can take time. Now what you've got here, you've got 2 layers turned on at once. You've got the aerial photography, and you've got the base
343 00:30:24.110 --> 00:30:26.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: map from the Ordnance Survey.
344 00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:40.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which is quite handy, because it sort of orientates you. If you didn't know quite where you were but once you've established where you are, you can turn off the underlying mapping information by going up to that ordnance survey box to up. Just click on that.
345 00:30:41.020 --> 00:30:44.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and if you hover over the tick, mark
346 00:30:44.930 --> 00:30:48.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you get the chance to turn the transparency down to 0.
347 00:30:49.660 --> 00:30:50.490 chris edwards: Click, on that.
348 00:30:50.490 --> 00:30:59.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Click on that. Yeah, and just bring up the little box. You got that can you click on escape and see? Yeah, there you go. Just move that slider down to 0.
349 00:30:59.550 --> 00:31:00.510 Sarah Barnett: Oh, right!
350 00:31:00.510 --> 00:31:07.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. And now you've got pure overhead photography. And again, as Chris mentions, if you you zoom in.
351 00:31:09.040 --> 00:31:24.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: particularly if you know where the water is or where the streams are, you can sort of focus on that. But also the detail is astonishing. So you can start counting individual trees, and whatever as you go in.
352 00:31:24.550 --> 00:31:34.089 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the other thing is, once you know where you are, and you sort of picked up, say, your interesting little stream. You can go back and turn on your flooding data, and it will
353 00:31:34.650 --> 00:31:38.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: either line up or not. Line up with what's happening right? This very second.
354 00:31:39.580 --> 00:31:40.630 Sarah Barnett: Yes.
355 00:31:40.630 --> 00:31:42.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So it's just helpful.
356 00:31:42.830 --> 00:31:43.930 Sarah Barnett: Thank you.
357 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.259 Sarah Barnett: So then I put then I just type flood in here.
358 00:31:48.260 --> 00:31:48.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, sure.
359 00:31:53.370 --> 00:31:58.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and turn on one of those ones that you found helpful earlier, which is what the surface water wants.
360 00:31:58.700 --> 00:31:59.360 Sarah Barnett: Yes.
361 00:31:59.360 --> 00:32:00.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Come down, down, down.
362 00:32:01.070 --> 00:32:01.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: yeah.
363 00:32:01.740 --> 00:32:03.469 Sarah Barnett: I've done the wrong one, have I? Oh, that's.
364 00:32:03.470 --> 00:32:07.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Doesn't matter. But you're you're better off using the environment agency. One, yeah.
365 00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:08.110 Sarah Barnett: Right.
366 00:32:10.280 --> 00:32:11.479 chris edwards: Zoom out a bit.
367 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:12.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
368 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:15.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: just so you can see where it's at
369 00:32:15.750 --> 00:32:20.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: not seeing any flooding. Are you in an area of the village that floods on that map?
370 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.600 Sarah Barnett: Yes, but I'm I'm more.
371 00:32:24.040 --> 00:32:31.680 Sarah Barnett: It's it's this particular bit that is horribly problematic. And it's just getting all the data about
372 00:32:31.690 --> 00:32:35.220 Sarah Barnett: this road here, where it has been
373 00:32:35.690 --> 00:32:44.050 Sarah Barnett: badly designed. So water is going under one bridge, but not managing to get under the other bridge that's under the road.
374 00:32:44.050 --> 00:32:44.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
375 00:32:44.510 --> 00:32:54.969 Sarah Barnett: And it's going back up. And there are springs all the way around everywhere, and you can't really tell. But this is a fantastically steep hill there's masses of.
376 00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:57.350 Sarah Barnett: So it's just
377 00:32:57.370 --> 00:33:05.249 Sarah Barnett: a myriad of things happening all at the same time. And then you just get horrible flooding around
378 00:33:05.410 --> 00:33:11.660 Sarah Barnett: here, which then totally blocks this road, causes accidents, etc, etc.
379 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:13.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
380 00:33:13.820 --> 00:33:14.495 Sarah Barnett: And
381 00:33:15.730 --> 00:33:27.430 Sarah Barnett: and we're just thinking. And it's just one of those complicated things where where it's going to be complicated solution involving multiple agencies. And of course that's quite difficult when you're a small village, to actually
382 00:33:28.360 --> 00:33:30.610 Sarah Barnett: get people interested.
383 00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:34.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, what you can do with bearish online is is.
384 00:33:34.650 --> 00:33:39.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: get the picture on the screen that you're happy with, and it demonstrates the particular problem.
385 00:33:40.090 --> 00:33:48.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then you can print it as a snapshot and send that off to people so they can see what you're talking about. They've actually got
386 00:33:48.771 --> 00:33:53.469 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you know, a reference to the discussions that you want to cover.
387 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:56.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So they're all looking at the same picture, so to speak.
388 00:33:57.280 --> 00:33:58.110 Sarah Barnett: Yes.
389 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:02.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So are you familiar with printing from parish online.
390 00:34:03.750 --> 00:34:13.719 Sarah Barnett: Well, I tried to do that one at some point, and then and it was tricky. I can't. I couldn't make it big enough. Maybe I wasn't scrolling properly.
391 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:16.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you just yeah.
392 00:34:16.349 --> 00:34:28.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So everything inside the square is what's going to appear on your printout. So if you haven't got it quite right. You can zoom in, zoom out, scroll around until you've got what you want. There you go in the square.
393 00:34:28.489 --> 00:34:29.179 Sarah Barnett: Right.
394 00:34:29.179 --> 00:34:32.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just, we just take this as an example. Now.
395 00:34:32.610 --> 00:34:33.290 Sarah Barnett: Yes.
396 00:34:33.290 --> 00:34:37.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So when you're happy, you can print on sorry click on print
397 00:34:38.739 --> 00:34:40.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: down the bottom left.
398 00:34:40.949 --> 00:34:42.859 Sarah Barnett: Oh, right yes.
399 00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:52.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then it's just taking its time because it's doing all this up in the cloud for you.
400 00:34:53.080 --> 00:35:00.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you've got photographs. So there's a lot of data whoozing backwards and forwards. But if you now click on that little square box with the arrow in it.
401 00:35:03.470 --> 00:35:05.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that's what your printout is going to look like.
402 00:35:06.060 --> 00:35:06.640 Sarah Barnett: Oh!
403 00:35:07.010 --> 00:35:16.959 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And so you can if you fill in the gaps on the previous screen. It's a title and description or something. Then you can get words on the in those areas exactly.
404 00:35:17.220 --> 00:35:21.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then you can either print it out on paper by clicking on that print
405 00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:29.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: icon up the top right, or you can download it as a Pdf or a Pgn file for graphics purposes
406 00:35:29.310 --> 00:35:31.839 Graham Stoddart-Stones: with that little down arrow in the top right.
407 00:35:32.560 --> 00:35:33.210 Sarah Barnett: Yes.
408 00:35:33.210 --> 00:35:35.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So. And then you can just email that off to people
409 00:35:35.990 --> 00:35:38.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so that everyone can see what you're talking about.
410 00:35:39.190 --> 00:35:45.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you, you need to play around with your layers, as Chris was mentioning, until you've got the picture that you want.
411 00:35:45.810 --> 00:35:54.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you can play around with with which ones where you can have 2 or more on at the same time. You can have those tithe maps in just to show
412 00:35:54.290 --> 00:36:00.669 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that everyone who had any sense of history ought to have known that there was going to be lots of water issues here, and off you go.
413 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:03.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so I hope that's helpful.
414 00:36:03.630 --> 00:36:06.160 Sarah Barnett: That's been brilliantly helpful. Thank you.
415 00:36:07.350 --> 00:36:11.829 Sarah Barnett: And presumably there's 1 that shows me where springs are.
416 00:36:13.245 --> 00:36:20.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, as Chris says, you've got to play around and find, because you find there are all sorts of things that you don't
417 00:36:21.290 --> 00:36:35.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: think you're going to indicate water, but they do so if you go into the the water network and look for nodes and so forth, gives you clues as to where all the underground pipes will be. I don't think we actually get maps of the pipes themselves, but you get clues as to where
418 00:36:35.720 --> 00:36:39.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the nodes that give access to them all, which is a clue.
419 00:36:39.370 --> 00:36:39.980 Malcolm Daniels: Sure.
420 00:36:40.580 --> 00:36:44.439 Sarah Barnett: Okay, so clues to nodes and hypes.
421 00:36:44.848 --> 00:36:46.071 Malcolm Daniels: I'm sorry. Well.
422 00:36:47.080 --> 00:36:54.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If if we we can pass over to Chris and ask him to show you, and let me just say hello to Malcolm, who's arrived. Nice to see you, Malcolm.
423 00:36:54.910 --> 00:36:55.819 John Roberts: Hello, Malcolm.
424 00:36:56.030 --> 00:36:56.970 Malcolm Daniels: Hello!
425 00:36:56.970 --> 00:36:59.330 John Roberts: Before before you disappear.
426 00:36:59.650 --> 00:37:05.979 John Roberts: When you look at the nodes, it's not just pipes. It's also includes where streams come up and go down.
427 00:37:05.980 --> 00:37:07.080 Sarah Barnett: Thank you.
428 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:13.970 Sarah Barnett: Excellent.
429 00:37:14.580 --> 00:37:16.219 Sarah Barnett: I'll stop my chair.
430 00:37:16.220 --> 00:37:18.431 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, and let me just check
431 00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:20.479 Ray Toomer: If I jump in with a question.
432 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I was about to come to you, Ray, and say it's your turn.
433 00:37:24.580 --> 00:37:32.499 Ray Toomer: Yeah, we're just getting started with parish online. And we're interested in biodiversity.
434 00:37:32.820 --> 00:37:37.830 Ray Toomer: And so we can see the advantage of using it to log
435 00:37:38.060 --> 00:37:42.210 Ray Toomer: various surveys of different, you know, flora and fauna
436 00:37:42.955 --> 00:37:47.090 Ray Toomer: but obviously it's going to just a closed set of users.
437 00:37:47.300 --> 00:37:51.839 Ray Toomer: And what we're looking to do is to provide information to the public at large
438 00:37:52.190 --> 00:37:54.269 Ray Toomer: for awareness purposes.
439 00:37:54.780 --> 00:38:03.609 Ray Toomer: I'm just wondering what what methods people have used for, you know, publishing some of the data on a wider basis.
440 00:38:04.130 --> 00:38:10.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think the the most appealing facility, from my point of view, is what's called public map.
441 00:38:11.090 --> 00:38:11.480 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
442 00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:20.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you like to share your screen, Ray, these things always work better if we walk you through it. And then you've actually had a look to see how it works.
443 00:38:20.100 --> 00:38:23.500 Ray Toomer: Yeah, I haven't actually got anything up at the moment. Actually,
444 00:38:24.085 --> 00:38:26.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you have access to parish online.
445 00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:29.850 Ray Toomer: Yeah, I'll I'll just quickly, well.
446 00:38:29.930 --> 00:38:31.922 Ray Toomer: hopefully, quickly dive in.
447 00:38:33.030 --> 00:38:33.920 Ray Toomer: I don't know.
448 00:38:38.220 --> 00:38:41.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Chris, do you want to drive ray through this
449 00:38:41.770 --> 00:38:46.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: public maps? Or, John? I'm just happy to share the load, you know.
450 00:38:47.553 --> 00:38:49.040 chris edwards: Yes. Yeah.
451 00:38:49.040 --> 00:38:52.420 Ray Toomer: Gonna take me a moment to get my details in here.
452 00:38:52.420 --> 00:38:54.300 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, that's all right. This is no rush.
453 00:38:54.660 --> 00:38:55.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
454 00:39:02.580 --> 00:39:04.789 Ray Toomer: Okay, I'm making progress.
455 00:39:22.550 --> 00:39:26.599 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just gonna check that. The man leaving a parcel is is happy. One second.
456 00:39:27.260 --> 00:39:30.664 Ray Toomer: Okay, I'm just getting into parish online now.
457 00:39:31.630 --> 00:39:34.110 Ray Toomer: and I'll just stick up a
458 00:39:35.270 --> 00:39:38.797 Ray Toomer: okay. So if I come back to my zoom,
459 00:39:41.140 --> 00:39:42.270 chris edwards: Share screen at the bottom.
460 00:39:42.270 --> 00:39:44.930 Ray Toomer: Share screen hopefully, this might do it.
461 00:39:49.670 --> 00:39:51.361 Ray Toomer: Okay, I don't know if,
462 00:39:54.120 --> 00:39:55.689 Ray Toomer: okay, share
463 00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:58.340 Ray Toomer: is that sharing.
464 00:39:58.550 --> 00:40:01.480 chris edwards: Not yet. We haven't seen. Oh, there we are. Yeah.
465 00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:03.149 John Roberts: It is now it is now.
466 00:40:03.350 --> 00:40:08.215 Ray Toomer: Okay, yeah. And this is this is just a Mickey Mouse example of where we've
467 00:40:08.590 --> 00:40:12.960 Ray Toomer: done some surveys in the past, and we've got some butterflies, some
468 00:40:13.010 --> 00:40:14.970 Ray Toomer: some butterflies located.
469 00:40:16.048 --> 00:40:17.890 Ray Toomer: But it could be anything.
470 00:40:19.370 --> 00:40:24.539 Ray Toomer: yeah. So we're we're just trying it out just to log some kind of sample data.
471 00:40:24.900 --> 00:40:28.749 Ray Toomer: but asking the question, if we wanted to make this kind of thing
472 00:40:29.100 --> 00:40:33.120 Ray Toomer: and more public within the parish. You know how much we go from
473 00:40:33.170 --> 00:40:36.289 Ray Toomer: this base data to some kind of
474 00:40:37.460 --> 00:40:38.760 Ray Toomer: publicly viewable
475 00:40:39.240 --> 00:40:40.790 Ray Toomer: analysis, say.
476 00:40:41.890 --> 00:40:48.479 chris edwards: Now, if you move your cursor up to the right hand side near the top, you'll see the big cogwheel.
477 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:52.350 chris edwards: Go on further. Right.
478 00:40:52.350 --> 00:40:53.830 Ray Toomer: Okay, yeah, it's.
479 00:40:53.830 --> 00:40:55.129 chris edwards: Yeah, click on that
480 00:40:55.390 --> 00:40:57.630 chris edwards: go into administration.
481 00:40:59.730 --> 00:41:02.390 chris edwards: Now, just just a little bit below that.
482 00:41:02.390 --> 00:41:08.849 Ray Toomer: Actually, okay, yeah, the problem is the yeah, I've got my zoom stuff coming up the top. Okay, administration got you? Yeah.
483 00:41:09.410 --> 00:41:15.690 chris edwards: Now I've go to the left hand side, and where you've got public maps.
484 00:41:15.690 --> 00:41:16.790 Ray Toomer: Oh, yeah, click, click.
485 00:41:16.790 --> 00:41:18.199 chris edwards: On that once.
486 00:41:19.540 --> 00:41:20.430 Ray Toomer: Okay.
487 00:41:20.600 --> 00:41:23.389 chris edwards: Now then, I think you go to the next
488 00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:28.470 chris edwards: section to the right, where it says public maps click on the plus sign.
489 00:41:28.470 --> 00:41:29.120 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
490 00:41:30.680 --> 00:41:35.709 chris edwards: Now it gives you the options. You can do aerial imagery
491 00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:42.390 chris edwards: or detailed mapping or basic mapping. I suggest you go for the middle one detailed mapping
492 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:43.529 chris edwards: click on that.
493 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.030 Ray Toomer: Okay, click, that one.
494 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:50.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then click on, next.
495 00:41:53.310 --> 00:41:54.930 chris edwards: I can't see the word. Next.
496 00:41:55.230 --> 00:41:56.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bottom, right corner.
497 00:41:56.470 --> 00:41:57.449 John Roberts: Bottom, right hand, corner.
498 00:41:57.450 --> 00:42:02.610 Ray Toomer: This. My zoom stuff keeps overlaying all the buttons. That's true.
499 00:42:04.550 --> 00:42:05.690 Ray Toomer: There it is.
500 00:42:07.230 --> 00:42:12.090 chris edwards: Now then, on the left hand side you'll see available layers.
501 00:42:12.300 --> 00:42:13.330 Ray Toomer: I got you.
502 00:42:13.600 --> 00:42:17.050 chris edwards: Now you want to click on one of those you can scroll down
503 00:42:17.610 --> 00:42:22.019 chris edwards: a long, long way. What do we want to call it? And.
504 00:42:22.630 --> 00:42:24.369 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's the ones that you're using, isn't it?
505 00:42:24.370 --> 00:42:27.289 Ray Toomer: Are the parish lairs on here, as well as the.
506 00:42:27.290 --> 00:42:28.470 chris edwards: Though oh!
507 00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:31.009 Graham Stoddart-Stones: These are all the parish lairs.
508 00:42:31.309 --> 00:42:34.299 Andrew Clegg: Okay? Well, I'm on a zoom call at the moment.
509 00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:36.000 chris edwards: So what?
510 00:42:37.100 --> 00:42:37.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Butterflies was.
511 00:42:37.830 --> 00:42:39.479 Ray Toomer: Bunch of slides. Yeah.
512 00:42:39.690 --> 00:42:44.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So what did you start the title with as your 1st word.
513 00:42:44.520 --> 00:42:46.453 Ray Toomer: Oh, there's a good question.
514 00:42:48.340 --> 00:42:49.446 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it
515 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:53.149 Ray Toomer: I'll tell you what now I'll just. I'll just go for a
516 00:42:53.646 --> 00:42:54.439 Ray Toomer: another one.
517 00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:55.509 chris edwards: Let's click on that. Yeah.
518 00:42:55.510 --> 00:43:00.780 Ray Toomer: Just go with this one. See what happens. So biodiversity corridors
519 00:43:01.570 --> 00:43:04.049 Ray Toomer: So I've selected that one. Do I go.
520 00:43:04.950 --> 00:43:06.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you have the option.
521 00:43:06.930 --> 00:43:09.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Ray, of selecting any number of layers.
522 00:43:09.830 --> 00:43:10.330 Ray Toomer: Okay.
523 00:43:10.330 --> 00:43:24.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you're getting 2 lots to choose from. So if you look across the top line of the screen, it's showing you where you are along the way. It's a sort of a chronological timeline. If you will number 2 at the moment which is select, my layers.
524 00:43:24.870 --> 00:43:28.639 Ray Toomer: So if I go to select other list, I see.
525 00:43:28.640 --> 00:43:36.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You have all the other 3rd party ones to choose from, and you don't have to select any of them between the 2 you've got to select at least one.
526 00:43:36.590 --> 00:43:37.380 Ray Toomer: I got you.
527 00:43:37.380 --> 00:43:42.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You don't have to select one from either of them, particularly as long as you've got one in total.
528 00:43:42.060 --> 00:43:44.150 Ray Toomer: I'll just go with that and go next.
529 00:43:48.125 --> 00:43:54.060 chris edwards: You can. You can zoom in to the area where you had the in information
530 00:43:54.200 --> 00:43:55.689 chris edwards: on butterflies.
531 00:43:55.690 --> 00:43:56.270 Ray Toomer: Okay. Yeah.
532 00:43:56.270 --> 00:43:58.080 chris edwards: Zoom zoom right in now.
533 00:44:01.590 --> 00:44:11.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And what this is doing. Ray is selecting the screen that people are going to see when they 1st turn this on. So you're giving them a a sort of a
534 00:44:11.410 --> 00:44:17.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: an orientation, if you will, where they can work out where they are and what they're looking at. So.
535 00:44:17.050 --> 00:44:19.510 Ray Toomer: Of interest are going to be in this particular.
536 00:44:19.660 --> 00:44:20.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which is fine.
537 00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:21.750 Ray Toomer: Area yeah, yeah.
538 00:44:22.850 --> 00:44:24.010 chris edwards: Click on next!
539 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:31.750 chris edwards: Now then.
540 00:44:32.850 --> 00:44:35.669 Ray Toomer: Okay. So I'll just say, example. Here.
541 00:44:35.670 --> 00:44:36.410 chris edwards: Okay.
542 00:44:36.410 --> 00:44:37.180 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
543 00:44:37.913 --> 00:44:45.750 chris edwards: On the left hand side you you see the word tools as you've got 3 tick boxes and one unticked.
544 00:44:45.950 --> 00:44:46.580 Ray Toomer: Yes.
545 00:44:46.580 --> 00:44:52.920 chris edwards: So you could actually untick the ticks or leave them on as as you wish.
546 00:44:53.080 --> 00:44:53.930 Ray Toomer: Okay.
547 00:44:53.930 --> 00:44:59.679 chris edwards: What? What you can play around with this to your heart's content when we finish the session.
548 00:44:59.680 --> 00:45:00.110 Ray Toomer: Yeah, yeah.
549 00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:02.320 chris edwards: But we'll leave them on for the time being.
550 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:02.930 Ray Toomer: Sure.
551 00:45:03.210 --> 00:45:04.880 chris edwards: Then you come across
552 00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:09.389 chris edwards: to start layers. Yes, so click on, save at the bottom.
553 00:45:12.100 --> 00:45:12.950 chris edwards: Now
554 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:17.720 chris edwards: on, on the
555 00:45:17.870 --> 00:45:23.110 chris edwards: on the section which you have the word info and preview.
556 00:45:23.110 --> 00:45:24.780 Ray Toomer: Yes, I see.
557 00:45:24.780 --> 00:45:27.100 chris edwards: Click on the click on the word preview.
558 00:45:30.740 --> 00:45:31.510 chris edwards: Yeah.
559 00:45:34.250 --> 00:45:35.310 Ray Toomer: I got you.
560 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:37.029 chris edwards: And that will bring up the map.
561 00:45:37.350 --> 00:45:37.910 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
562 00:45:38.340 --> 00:45:41.320 chris edwards: That you you want to share with other people.
563 00:45:41.740 --> 00:45:44.899 Ray Toomer: I see. And so this has been hosted somewhere on the cloud.
564 00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:48.539 chris edwards: No, no, not yet. It's just what the map will look like.
565 00:45:48.850 --> 00:45:49.779 Ray Toomer: Yeah, you too.
566 00:45:49.780 --> 00:45:52.530 chris edwards: So go back to the word info. Now.
567 00:45:52.530 --> 00:45:53.290 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
568 00:45:55.087 --> 00:45:56.559 chris edwards: Right you in the.
569 00:45:57.170 --> 00:46:02.570 chris edwards: You've got 2 options, so to speak, something called share. URL.
570 00:46:02.570 --> 00:46:03.260 Ray Toomer: Yes.
571 00:46:03.260 --> 00:46:05.820 chris edwards: And underneath that embed code.
572 00:46:06.040 --> 00:46:06.670 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
573 00:46:07.080 --> 00:46:12.869 chris edwards: And if you were, if you were wanting to put this on your your parish council website.
574 00:46:12.870 --> 00:46:13.300 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
575 00:46:13.300 --> 00:46:16.670 chris edwards: I think you'd use the bottom of those 2 options.
576 00:46:16.670 --> 00:46:17.360 Ray Toomer: Okay.
577 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.440 chris edwards: But to share the URL with your other counselors and Clark.
578 00:46:22.887 --> 00:46:26.489 chris edwards: you would use the the share. URL. One, the top one.
579 00:46:26.490 --> 00:46:27.410 Ray Toomer: I got you.
580 00:46:29.340 --> 00:46:36.380 chris edwards: John, take me through the next step, because I haven't done a public map for ages.
581 00:46:36.860 --> 00:46:37.505 John Roberts: No
582 00:46:38.900 --> 00:46:40.769 John Roberts: now the funny thing is, nor have I.
583 00:46:42.830 --> 00:46:43.920 chris edwards: if you.
584 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:44.310 John Roberts: Where it's got.
585 00:46:44.310 --> 00:46:46.040 chris edwards: The clipboard.
586 00:46:46.630 --> 00:46:48.899 John Roberts: Where it's got share. U URL,
587 00:46:49.422 --> 00:46:53.150 John Roberts: you can copy and paste that into emails or wherever.
588 00:46:53.150 --> 00:46:54.260 Ray Toomer: I've got you. Yeah.
589 00:46:54.430 --> 00:46:58.299 John Roberts: And send it to send it to the people. You want to send it to.
590 00:46:58.300 --> 00:46:59.829 Malcolm Daniels: In cake, the.
591 00:46:59.830 --> 00:47:05.869 John Roberts: Embed code is if you want that on your parish council website.
592 00:47:05.870 --> 00:47:08.129 Malcolm Daniels: A nice hot cup of coffee.
593 00:47:08.650 --> 00:47:10.209 Malcolm Daniels: It's slowly. It's very.
594 00:47:10.210 --> 00:47:12.989 John Roberts: Whoever does your website can embed that.
595 00:47:13.420 --> 00:47:17.289 John Roberts: and when somebody clicks on it it will then take them to the map.
596 00:47:17.590 --> 00:47:18.530 Ray Toomer: I got you.
597 00:47:18.870 --> 00:47:20.709 John Roberts: Okay. Now.
598 00:47:20.910 --> 00:47:25.280 John Roberts: I can't see the bottom of your screen. I'm guessing you've got save.
599 00:47:26.726 --> 00:47:30.879 Ray Toomer: Yeah, I need to move my zoom stuff again. One second.
600 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't think you think it's all done. It's it's already saved.
601 00:47:34.380 --> 00:47:34.800 Ray Toomer: Yes.
602 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:35.740 John Roberts: Right? Okay.
603 00:47:36.870 --> 00:47:43.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So your point, Ray, that you said is absolutely correct. The information is stored up in the cloud.
604 00:47:43.810 --> 00:47:56.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but the beauty of public maps is that if you decide, you're going to make a change later to your on your parish online change is automatically reflected to this copy.
605 00:47:56.720 --> 00:47:59.179 Ray Toomer: I see. So it's automatically updated.
606 00:47:59.180 --> 00:48:04.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you're always what people are looking at is always the latest copy of what you've got.
607 00:48:04.990 --> 00:48:05.800 Ray Toomer: Good, good.
608 00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:26.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the other beauty of parish. Sorry of the public maps is that they get the opportunity to turn layers on or off. So if you've given them a choice of 5 layers to look at, they do exactly the same as if they were in parish online itself, they can turn them on or off just by clicking on them.
609 00:48:26.730 --> 00:48:34.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which is sometimes very helpful. They can also scroll and zoom exactly the same as if they were actually in parish online.
610 00:48:34.590 --> 00:48:37.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so that they're effectively getting
611 00:48:37.290 --> 00:48:39.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: a public copy of what you've done.
612 00:48:40.690 --> 00:48:57.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think it's a brilliant way of sharing public parish online information. There is a key point to all this which we haven't touched on. If we come back to your layers on the left hand side, left hand column.
613 00:48:58.650 --> 00:48:59.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: this one.
614 00:48:59.390 --> 00:49:00.170 Ray Toomer: Yeah, yeah.
615 00:49:00.170 --> 00:49:01.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, click on that.
616 00:49:02.680 --> 00:49:03.300 Ray Toomer: Okay.
617 00:49:03.300 --> 00:49:08.789 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you go into your parish butterflies. Just select it, click on it once you select it.
618 00:49:08.850 --> 00:49:14.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then move over to the left where it says column. Sorry the right. I beg your pardon. It says columns.
619 00:49:15.290 --> 00:49:20.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, click on that, and you'll see there's a column there called Public.
620 00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:21.920 Ray Toomer: Oh, okay. Yeah.
621 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: By default. Every single
622 00:49:25.100 --> 00:49:28.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: column of data that you have in your layer
623 00:49:28.330 --> 00:49:29.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: is turned off
624 00:49:30.090 --> 00:49:35.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so that you don't inadvertently send private information to the public map.
625 00:49:35.830 --> 00:49:47.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you've got, for instance, a little column there called Notes, and you say this particular butterfly was stomped on by that heavy-footed Mr. Jones, you may not want to make that public.
626 00:49:47.990 --> 00:49:48.330 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
627 00:49:48.330 --> 00:49:52.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You wouldn't turn that particular column on, but the others
628 00:49:52.130 --> 00:50:02.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you do turn on as you want them. But the point is that the default is that nothing goes through until you've actually specified that you do want that layer to go through.
629 00:50:02.390 --> 00:50:04.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which is a very safe
630 00:50:06.070 --> 00:50:07.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: facility.
631 00:50:07.120 --> 00:50:07.545 Ray Toomer: Yes.
632 00:50:09.022 --> 00:50:25.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's well worth doing one of these and then playing around with it from the user point of view. Send yourself the URL and and play with it, and then you can see what they're getting. But it's a very powerful way of getting data in front of everybody else.
633 00:50:25.790 --> 00:50:30.290 Ray Toomer: Actually just a matter of interest whilst we're here. This the link. What do you know? What the link.
634 00:50:30.290 --> 00:50:33.469 John Roberts: Right? Can I share my screen?
635 00:50:34.070 --> 00:50:35.809 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very good idea. If you can't share your.
636 00:50:35.810 --> 00:50:37.349 John Roberts: Be the easiest way to do it.
637 00:50:37.790 --> 00:50:46.700 chris edwards: Before Ray goes. Ray. Just sorry, John Ray. Just go up with you. Your cursor to the yellow
638 00:50:46.860 --> 00:50:49.970 chris edwards: yeah. Click that. Yeah, to save.
639 00:50:49.970 --> 00:50:50.610 Ray Toomer: Yeah.
640 00:50:50.610 --> 00:50:51.600 John Roberts: That's what I was on about.
641 00:50:51.600 --> 00:50:54.049 chris edwards: Click, click the save button there
642 00:50:55.080 --> 00:50:56.440 chris edwards: and then. Oh.
643 00:50:58.210 --> 00:50:59.770 chris edwards: now go back!
644 00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:03.550 chris edwards: See where it says, back to maps on the right hand side.
645 00:51:03.550 --> 00:51:05.659 Ray Toomer: With the globe just here. Yeah.
646 00:51:05.660 --> 00:51:07.209 chris edwards: Click, click on the globe.
647 00:51:10.710 --> 00:51:13.439 chris edwards: Hey? Presto! You're back to your maps!
648 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:14.370 Ray Toomer: Excellent.
649 00:51:15.020 --> 00:51:17.990 Ray Toomer: That's very useful. Thank you very much.
650 00:51:19.904 --> 00:51:20.559 John Roberts: Beef
651 00:51:20.570 --> 00:51:23.600 John Roberts: before I share. Can I ask a question? Have we lost David.
652 00:51:25.475 --> 00:51:27.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It looks like it, doesn't it?
653 00:51:27.580 --> 00:51:31.391 John Roberts: Oh, cause? He asked the question I was going to answer, but I won't bother. There.
654 00:51:33.910 --> 00:51:37.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you might as well answer it, anyway, just to keep us all fascinated.
655 00:51:37.650 --> 00:51:42.169 John Roberts: What he asked about attaching something to to one of the layers.
656 00:51:42.170 --> 00:51:45.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Think he asked about it. I think he made the suggestion.
657 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:46.400 John Roberts: Right? Okay.
658 00:51:46.400 --> 00:52:01.369 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The the suggestion was, how could Andrew or no? Sorry it was Chris, wasn't it? How could Chris get all the information onto one layer, and he suggested that you, I think, Andrew, you make a text file, and then just add it. And and that was a good selection.
659 00:52:01.410 --> 00:52:07.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I think that was what David was suggesting, which I thought was indicated. A pretty good understanding on his part.
660 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.729 John Roberts: Now, I'm assuming you're looking at my parish online screen. Yeah.
661 00:52:13.730 --> 00:52:14.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
662 00:52:15.210 --> 00:52:18.609 John Roberts: Good. We got that bit right marriage layers.
663 00:52:19.700 --> 00:52:21.359 John Roberts: and if I go to
664 00:52:21.550 --> 00:52:25.129 John Roberts: our planning applications, say for this year.
665 00:52:26.370 --> 00:52:29.339 John Roberts: there are all our planning applications at the moment.
666 00:52:32.770 --> 00:52:33.950 John Roberts: Click on one
667 00:52:37.470 --> 00:52:38.370 John Roberts: planning.
668 00:52:38.950 --> 00:52:41.470 John Roberts: That's the planning application you're looking at.
669 00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:44.520 John Roberts: There's the link.
670 00:52:47.160 --> 00:52:48.929 John Roberts: So if I click on that link.
671 00:52:50.050 --> 00:52:51.980 John Roberts: I don't know what you're looking at now.
672 00:52:53.200 --> 00:52:55.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We are seeing the portal. So I said.
673 00:52:55.590 --> 00:53:01.600 John Roberts: Right? So that's now taken me to the planning portal for our local planning authority.
674 00:53:02.220 --> 00:53:03.030 John Roberts: So
675 00:53:04.230 --> 00:53:06.029 John Roberts: when we're creating
676 00:53:07.020 --> 00:53:12.280 John Roberts: a planning application, we fill out these details, which is what we've done ourselves.
677 00:53:13.140 --> 00:53:15.050 John Roberts: We will include that link
678 00:53:15.260 --> 00:53:17.919 John Roberts: as a link, so that anybody
679 00:53:29.980 --> 00:53:31.020 John Roberts: bear with me.
680 00:53:31.430 --> 00:53:32.280 John Roberts: please.
681 00:53:44.200 --> 00:53:46.090 John Roberts: So that's the public map.
682 00:53:46.550 --> 00:53:48.900 John Roberts: So a member of the public will click on that
683 00:53:50.030 --> 00:53:54.029 John Roberts: they will bring up that which that's the bits we've allowed them to see.
684 00:53:54.190 --> 00:53:55.310 Ray Toomer: I see.
685 00:53:55.310 --> 00:53:55.990 John Roberts: Including
686 00:53:56.270 --> 00:53:57.150 John Roberts: the lake.
687 00:53:58.930 --> 00:54:03.500 John Roberts: And as I. And as I've picked on an old map, it's gonna there you go. You're back to that.
688 00:54:04.140 --> 00:54:04.840 Ray Toomer: Good.
689 00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:06.169 John Roberts: That makes sense.
690 00:54:06.170 --> 00:54:07.559 Ray Toomer: Absolutely. Yeah, that's.
691 00:54:07.560 --> 00:54:10.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go back to your public map, John.
692 00:54:11.160 --> 00:54:14.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and close that particular record.
693 00:54:14.590 --> 00:54:15.250 John Roberts: Yeah.
694 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:20.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Could you just show Ray the business of your layers to the left? There
695 00:54:21.950 --> 00:54:23.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you've got. Yeah.
696 00:54:24.510 --> 00:54:27.939 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So your layer is just showing the legend, in fact. But.
697 00:54:27.940 --> 00:54:28.780 John Roberts: That's it. Yeah.
698 00:54:28.780 --> 00:54:47.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Had had they elected to put several layers onto this particular public map ray. Then the user has the choice of turning on or turning off whichever ones they do wish to see. So, for instance, if you put planning applications for the last 4 years, you could turn each one on or off as you wished.
699 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:48.710 Ray Toomer: See? Yeah.
700 00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:53.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which is a great way of simplifying the presentation of data, and your.
701 00:54:53.970 --> 00:55:01.450 John Roberts: We're we're we're lucky we don't actually get compared. We say, a major town. We don't get that many planning applications.
702 00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:08.690 John Roberts: But yeah, you can, you can turn the layers on and off. The legend will give you the
703 00:55:09.810 --> 00:55:10.800 John Roberts: title.
704 00:55:11.020 --> 00:55:12.159 John Roberts: So there you are.
705 00:55:14.620 --> 00:55:21.540 Ray Toomer: Yes, pretty powerful. Really, you can, you know, transform the the data route and let the end user decide on
706 00:55:21.720 --> 00:55:24.379 Ray Toomer: their particular view. Really
707 00:55:25.740 --> 00:55:26.640 Ray Toomer: good.
708 00:55:26.640 --> 00:55:27.350 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely.
709 00:55:27.980 --> 00:55:30.950 John Roberts: No, I've just given you a simplified version of it.
710 00:55:30.950 --> 00:55:32.620 Ray Toomer: Sure, good, thank you.
711 00:55:38.410 --> 00:55:44.529 chris edwards: Greg, do you mind if I go share my screen going back to flooding.
712 00:55:45.740 --> 00:55:47.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Before it, crash!
713 00:55:47.160 --> 00:55:48.160 chris edwards: Thank you.
714 00:55:51.620 --> 00:55:54.140 chris edwards: so let me.
715 00:55:55.330 --> 00:55:59.770 chris edwards: I'll turn off. I'll turn off these things, which are no longer required.
716 00:56:01.420 --> 00:56:07.229 chris edwards: Now I think some, I think somebody mentioned Somerset, HER.
717 00:56:07.740 --> 00:56:08.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. It's the.
718 00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:11.780 chris edwards: I want to show you. I want to show you something in our parish.
719 00:56:14.810 --> 00:56:16.649 chris edwards: let's right there we go.
720 00:56:17.350 --> 00:56:22.249 chris edwards: I'm going to click on Somerset, HER. For the old tithe maps.
721 00:56:29.450 --> 00:56:31.170 chris edwards: No, that's not what I want.
722 00:56:33.510 --> 00:56:35.400 chris edwards: Let me zoom in a bit.
723 00:56:39.740 --> 00:56:46.909 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Think you may be in the wrong. Semiset her if you go up to the 1st of the green layers or the bottom green layer.
724 00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:48.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: John.
725 00:56:49.200 --> 00:56:50.570 John Roberts: No, it's not me doing it.
726 00:56:52.790 --> 00:56:53.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, well.
727 00:56:53.330 --> 00:56:59.679 chris edwards: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. There we are. Oh, thank you, thank you very much. So let's click on this one
728 00:57:06.580 --> 00:57:09.840 chris edwards: taking its time. Oh, there we go
729 00:57:10.140 --> 00:57:19.390 chris edwards: now this let me zoom out for a while. This. This is a sloping field running downhill.
730 00:57:19.990 --> 00:57:22.239 chris edwards: where my cursor is going
731 00:57:22.700 --> 00:57:25.020 chris edwards: a lot of flooding in this area.
732 00:57:25.340 --> 00:57:31.990 chris edwards: And when I click, I think it must have been the other one. If I click on this one.
733 00:57:37.520 --> 00:57:41.749 chris edwards: it had references to a lake and ponds.
734 00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:45.213 chris edwards: Now, obviously, that would indicate
735 00:57:45.980 --> 00:57:47.100 chris edwards: lots of
736 00:57:47.160 --> 00:57:48.950 chris edwards: water underground.
737 00:57:49.700 --> 00:57:52.670 chris edwards: It's not. It's it's not giving me
738 00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.270 chris edwards: what I would normally expect to see.
739 00:57:56.240 --> 00:57:58.240 chris edwards: so I don't quite know.
740 00:57:58.240 --> 00:58:00.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Try the other at the 1st layer again.
741 00:58:01.670 --> 00:58:04.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think maybe you just need to give it a little more time, because.
742 00:58:04.945 --> 00:58:05.340 chris edwards: Yeah.
743 00:58:05.510 --> 00:58:06.200 chris edwards: Yep.
744 00:58:08.460 --> 00:58:16.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Again for Sarah and Ray's benefit. We're bringing a lot of data down from the Internet. So it takes a little time to catch yourself up.
745 00:58:16.430 --> 00:58:19.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In fact, you can see your little wheel is still spinning.
746 00:58:20.220 --> 00:58:21.879 chris edwards: Let let me.
747 00:58:29.250 --> 00:58:32.240 chris edwards: That might improve things. I don't know.
748 00:58:32.820 --> 00:58:33.550 chris edwards: Hmm!
749 00:58:37.190 --> 00:58:41.500 chris edwards: Anyway, when I when I clicked on this, let's say, a month ago
750 00:58:41.730 --> 00:58:48.970 chris edwards: it had little. Everything was divided up into very small fields, fields within fields.
751 00:58:49.010 --> 00:58:52.699 chris edwards: and this this field, owned by Mr. Jones.
752 00:58:53.488 --> 00:58:55.799 chris edwards: The caption was Pond.
753 00:58:56.570 --> 00:58:57.470 chris edwards: Pond.
754 00:58:57.570 --> 00:59:00.399 chris edwards: Pond Pond Lake.
755 00:59:00.540 --> 00:59:04.700 chris edwards: and I thought, Well, that's interesting, but but it didn't really mean
756 00:59:04.930 --> 00:59:06.549 chris edwards: anything more than
757 00:59:07.200 --> 00:59:11.819 chris edwards: whether it be a very, very wet, sodden area.
758 00:59:11.950 --> 00:59:14.789 chris edwards: and therefore no houses were built here.
759 00:59:16.340 --> 00:59:19.059 chris edwards: So that mystified me
760 00:59:19.240 --> 00:59:20.200 chris edwards: so
761 00:59:20.590 --> 00:59:22.559 chris edwards: I was hoping to replicate
762 00:59:22.670 --> 00:59:26.480 chris edwards: what I saw a month ago, but unfortunately it hasn't come up.
763 00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:29.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it will, I think, if you go back up to standard, turn off your.
764 00:59:29.130 --> 00:59:31.150 chris edwards: Oh, here we are! Here we are! Here we are.
765 00:59:34.120 --> 00:59:35.940 chris edwards: Now. Is that a pond?
766 00:59:36.420 --> 00:59:38.600 chris edwards: I'll just have to wait until it
767 00:59:40.170 --> 00:59:43.519 chris edwards: gets the full picture. Yeah. Pond Pond close.
768 00:59:44.140 --> 00:59:45.840 chris edwards: and if I move
769 00:59:46.620 --> 00:59:48.959 chris edwards: somewhere it says a lake.
770 00:59:50.300 --> 00:59:51.829 chris edwards: Andrew, can I
771 00:59:52.130 --> 00:59:54.680 chris edwards: ask if you've come across this
772 00:59:55.150 --> 01:00:00.879 chris edwards: in your here we are Lake Lake, or is that the name of the farmer, Mr. Lake?
773 01:00:02.136 --> 01:00:03.510 chris edwards: I I
774 01:00:03.580 --> 01:00:05.370 chris edwards: it's impossible to tell.
775 01:00:08.460 --> 01:00:09.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think all the.
776 01:00:09.150 --> 01:00:10.250 chris edwards: Great Lake.
777 01:00:10.250 --> 01:00:14.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're all under the names. They're all names. They're not
778 01:00:14.550 --> 01:00:18.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: sorry, indicating that there is a lake there, or there was a lake there.
779 01:00:20.260 --> 01:00:21.050 chris edwards: Right.
780 01:00:21.490 --> 01:00:25.519 John Roberts: It's to say, if Sarah looks at Buckle and Dinham.
781 01:00:25.980 --> 01:00:28.750 John Roberts: she'll find that most of it around there is orchards.
782 01:00:28.750 --> 01:00:36.249 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, we are using these field names when we have to name roads in the developments that being built on them.
783 01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:37.520 chris edwards: Yes.
784 01:00:37.520 --> 01:00:39.230 John Roberts: That's that's what we did.
785 01:00:41.122 --> 01:00:43.940 John Roberts: Because the sed more in their wisdom.
786 01:00:44.310 --> 01:00:48.500 John Roberts: decided to name all the roads on one particular state after cheeses
787 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.460 John Roberts: dairy, and we said No.
788 01:00:53.780 --> 01:00:54.360 chris edwards: Hmm.
789 01:00:54.690 --> 01:00:55.190 chris edwards: So, so.
790 01:00:55.190 --> 01:00:58.199 John Roberts: We went through all the tide map, name.
791 01:01:00.140 --> 01:01:05.980 chris edwards: So the the actual names of these fields where they've got lake and pond.
792 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.830 chris edwards: That's just a red herring, is it? As far as I'm concerned.
793 01:01:10.810 --> 01:01:11.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think.
794 01:01:11.340 --> 01:01:11.890 John Roberts: I would say.
795 01:01:11.890 --> 01:01:12.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Anyway, isn't it.
796 01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:15.590 chris edwards: What did you say, Graham.
797 01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:19.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's a bit of a giveaway that they they were had. They had lakes and ponds.
798 01:01:19.700 --> 01:01:20.450 chris edwards: Yes.
799 01:01:20.450 --> 01:01:24.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Back in that time, which is what 1870. Was it something like that.
800 01:01:24.130 --> 01:01:24.740 chris edwards: Yes.
801 01:01:25.150 --> 01:01:27.639 chris edwards: because just to bring you up to date
802 01:01:28.910 --> 01:01:29.970 chris edwards: this.
803 01:01:30.070 --> 01:01:32.450 chris edwards: there's a there's a great big field here.
804 01:01:32.700 --> 01:01:35.269 chris edwards: and they want to build 200 homes.
805 01:01:35.430 --> 01:01:36.760 chris edwards: and we know
806 01:01:36.770 --> 01:01:41.369 chris edwards: that there's going to be flooding problems for the, for the poor people who
807 01:01:41.410 --> 01:01:44.130 chris edwards: end up buying the new homes.
808 01:01:44.430 --> 01:01:49.300 chris edwards: And so we want as much evidence and and
809 01:01:49.750 --> 01:01:52.299 chris edwards: historical information as possible
810 01:01:52.460 --> 01:01:54.279 chris edwards: to say why
811 01:01:54.710 --> 01:02:01.450 chris edwards: we we object to these homes going up on in this field, which has which has a heavy slope.
812 01:02:03.520 --> 01:02:06.460 chris edwards: from the top of the field down to the bottom of the field.
813 01:02:06.940 --> 01:02:07.810 chris edwards: anyway.
814 01:02:08.775 --> 01:02:12.180 chris edwards: Thanks. Thank you for your input on that.
815 01:02:13.550 --> 01:02:15.140 chris edwards: So let me just
816 01:02:15.510 --> 01:02:17.160 chris edwards: stop sharing.
817 01:02:17.620 --> 01:02:18.310 chris edwards: Oh.
818 01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:33.420 Andrew Clegg: Chris, are your? Are the developers in Ansford want wanting to to join you up to Castle Carey? Is that the idea? Just fill up all those fields between you and Castle Carey.
819 01:02:34.555 --> 01:02:37.889 chris edwards: No, because Castle Carey is, is
820 01:02:38.220 --> 01:02:42.370 chris edwards: as developed as much as it can be, and
821 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:47.869 chris edwards: the area which is vacant, so to speak, for want of a better word.
822 01:02:47.930 --> 01:02:49.549 chris edwards: is in Landsford.
823 01:02:49.790 --> 01:02:51.529 chris edwards: so it's.
824 01:02:52.710 --> 01:02:55.840 Andrew Clegg: I see. So they're they're expanding into your parish.
825 01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:57.360 chris edwards: A precise yeah, we'll put.
826 01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:59.410 Andrew Clegg: Do you have a Neighborhood Plan.
827 01:02:59.600 --> 01:03:00.709 chris edwards: Yes, we do.
828 01:03:00.710 --> 01:03:05.199 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Do you have in your neighborhood plan any green spaces
829 01:03:05.823 --> 01:03:10.619 Andrew Clegg: to separate settlements within the parish? Because we found.
830 01:03:10.620 --> 01:03:18.759 chris edwards: Neighborhood. It is in the neighborhood plan, but the planning inspector who approved the 200 home application.
831 01:03:19.332 --> 01:03:24.200 chris edwards: Just ignore. Well, I she took note of our neighborhood plan.
832 01:03:24.210 --> 01:03:26.000 chris edwards: but because it's more than
833 01:03:26.210 --> 01:03:27.840 chris edwards: 5 years old.
834 01:03:27.980 --> 01:03:28.820 Andrew Clegg: Oh, yeah.
835 01:03:28.820 --> 01:03:31.980 chris edwards: This? This? What's the word?
836 01:03:32.610 --> 01:03:35.159 Andrew Clegg: Yes, it's yes. Yeah.
837 01:03:35.230 --> 01:03:36.350 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Yeah.
838 01:03:36.420 --> 01:03:42.813 Andrew Clegg: Because what I have found, we've found that they are. If you create a
839 01:03:43.300 --> 01:03:49.609 Andrew Clegg: a green space between settlements. It's very difficult for developers to build on those
840 01:03:49.730 --> 01:03:53.459 Andrew Clegg: you. You can usually save about 2 fields
841 01:03:53.610 --> 01:03:56.160 Andrew Clegg: between between you and the next village.
842 01:03:56.160 --> 01:04:03.249 chris edwards: Yeah, the the trouble is going back a few years planning and other planning inspectors approved.
843 01:04:03.650 --> 01:04:07.470 chris edwards: Yeah, to build the estates and the the
844 01:04:07.570 --> 01:04:15.750 chris edwards: these estates have actually finished, the houses are all occupied. So yeah, this one for 200 homes
845 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:17.740 chris edwards: that's going to go the same way.
846 01:04:17.930 --> 01:04:18.650 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
847 01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:19.900 chris edwards: Unfortunately.
848 01:04:20.690 --> 01:04:21.400 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
849 01:04:27.470 --> 01:04:37.519 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we're reaching the magical witching our peoples. Can I give anybody who wishes them the chance to ask another question, or make some comment or
850 01:04:38.080 --> 01:04:40.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: state what they think of the Americans.
851 01:04:44.270 --> 01:04:45.750 John Roberts: I'm not going on that one.
852 01:04:45.750 --> 01:04:48.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, you're very wise, very wise.
853 01:04:48.550 --> 01:04:49.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you you.
854 01:04:49.140 --> 01:04:51.960 John Roberts: We've got more of a vested interest, Graham, than we have, so.
855 01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:58.949 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I actually got a Whatsapp from my daughter, who is an American, and she just said that she was extremely embarrassed.
856 01:05:00.370 --> 01:05:03.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: which I thought was a bit sad for a 20 year old.
857 01:05:05.420 --> 01:05:06.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Anyway.
858 01:05:07.420 --> 01:05:13.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No more questions, Sarah. This is your last opportunity this week. It's never going to come again.
859 01:05:13.490 --> 01:05:14.069 chris edwards: But I.
860 01:05:14.070 --> 01:05:15.869 Sarah Barnett: Might come here again.
861 01:05:15.870 --> 01:05:16.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yeah.
862 01:05:16.330 --> 01:05:17.639 Sarah Barnett: More focused. Man.
863 01:05:17.640 --> 01:05:22.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's grasping the future. That's that's looking forward. Well done.
864 01:05:22.530 --> 01:05:25.050 Sarah Barnett: That's been really helpful. Thank you.
865 01:05:25.050 --> 01:05:27.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very glad to hear it. Ray, are you okay?
866 01:05:27.340 --> 01:05:30.379 Ray Toomer: Yeah, I'm good. Thank you very much. That was very useful, too.
867 01:05:30.380 --> 01:05:31.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right.
868 01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, Malcolm, it was great to see you again with us. Thank you.
869 01:05:34.940 --> 01:05:40.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I wish you all well for the weekend, and I hope to see you in the future.
870 01:05:40.270 --> 01:05:40.780 chris edwards: Okay.
871 01:05:40.780 --> 01:05:41.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Care whether or not.
872 01:05:41.770 --> 01:05:42.540 chris edwards: Bye. Thank you.
873 01:05:42.540 --> 01:05:43.070 Sarah Barnett: Bye.