241004 - 04Oct24 - EPC, Flooding, Council data, Neighbourhood Plans, BNG, Mapping planning developme
A wide-ranging session covering many aspects of Parish Online in day-to-day use in council work and activities
Video Timeline (min:sec):
00:00 - 05:14 EPC (Energy Performance Certificates) and DEC (Displayed Energy Certificates)
05:14 - 15:50 Flooding
15:50 - 18:35 Council Data (getting it into Parish Online)
18:35 - 27:40 Neighbourhood Plans & funding
27:40 - 31:40 Biodiversity Net Gain
31:40 - 33:40 Council Data
33:40 - 36:40 Mapping planning developments
36:40 - 47:00 Uses of Parish Online: SID, MVAS, posts 7 bollards, street lights, Style, Distribution Routes
47:00 - 50:40 Multiple layers vs single layer with filters, dog poo bins
50:40 - 56:18 Council Data
56:18 - 76:00 (end) Hedgehogs, use of Styling, Layers, Labels, Classes
Presentation:
no presentation this week
Chat:
00:08:23 Stuart Bacon: https://www.gov.uk/check-energy-performance-public-building
00:08:35 Stuart Bacon: Check a public building's Display Energy Certificate
00:15:43 David Newman: "I couldn't resist unblocking this car park drain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ATNSkGF3Y
00:21:18 Stuart Withington: Sorry, got to go. Next time
00:32:02 David Newman: There is a biodiversity mapping service in Oxfordshire.
00:39:09 Bob Grainger: Sorrry, but I have to go. Have fun !
01:03:33 Sheila Churchward: Sorry have to go. Bye everyone
01:10:59 Malcolm Daniels: Bye everyone!
01:17:04 Parish Clerk: Bye, see you next time
Speech-to-text:
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1 00:00:11.780 --> 00:00:13.916 Who can be sure?
2 00:00:15.470 --> 00:00:16.129 prinson Thomas: Hi.
3 00:00:17.220 --> 00:00:18.666 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Hello! Hello!
4 00:00:25.070 --> 00:00:26.110 Parish Clerk: Hello, Helen!
5 00:00:26.410 --> 00:00:27.500 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Good afternoon.
6 00:00:28.350 --> 00:00:31.239 Parish Clerk: Town Council congratulations on joining us.
7 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:32.600 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yes.
8 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:35.550 Parish Clerk: Wow!
9 00:00:43.460 --> 00:00:44.400 Sheila Churchward: Hello!
10 00:00:44.950 --> 00:00:45.929 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Hey? Sheila.
11 00:01:02.730 --> 00:01:03.790 Malcolm Daniels: Morning hasn't.
12 00:01:03.790 --> 00:01:04.920 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Hey Malcolm.
13 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:07.479 Malcolm Daniels: Rather should I say afternoon.
14 00:01:07.690 --> 00:01:09.040 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Good afternoon.
15 00:01:09.980 --> 00:01:11.070 chris edwards: Hi! Everybody!
16 00:01:11.460 --> 00:01:13.100 Sheila Churchward: Hi! Hi! Roddy!
17 00:01:13.100 --> 00:01:14.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Welcome heather
18 00:01:14.530 --> 00:01:15.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: healer.
19 00:01:16.390 --> 00:01:20.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Chris Pashcock, Princeton, Goodeo.
20 00:01:22.130 --> 00:01:23.090 Malcolm Daniels: Hi, Craig.
21 00:01:23.520 --> 00:01:28.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I often advice to you all is that when you have guests over for lunch
22 00:01:28.670 --> 00:01:31.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you're leaving for your parish
23 00:01:31.080 --> 00:01:37.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: banter session, you have to wait for the punchline of your wife's joke, otherwise it's the end of your life.
24 00:01:39.460 --> 00:01:42.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Apologize for being fractionally late. But it was in a good cause.
25 00:01:43.390 --> 00:01:44.898 chris edwards: Let's let's have the joke.
26 00:01:48.210 --> 00:01:49.620 Malcolm Daniels: She killed you. Then.
27 00:01:49.620 --> 00:01:53.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: A beautiful, beautiful white stallion goes into a
28 00:01:53.330 --> 00:01:54.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: a bar.
29 00:01:54.840 --> 00:02:00.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the publican says, after the horse has ordered a beer, he says
30 00:02:01.210 --> 00:02:05.019 Graham Stoddart-Stones: he says, did you know that they've named a whiskey after you?
31 00:02:05.070 --> 00:02:07.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the horse says what Eric.
32 00:02:09.370 --> 00:02:09.880 chris edwards: But.
33 00:02:09.880 --> 00:02:12.239 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: So you're going to say, what's the long face.
34 00:02:14.470 --> 00:02:15.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
35 00:02:16.090 --> 00:02:18.540 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Oh, yes, Eric. Very good.
36 00:02:20.650 --> 00:02:26.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And for those of you who are keen sailing fans, you know the results of the latest race in the
37 00:02:26.610 --> 00:02:30.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: America's Cup. Britain is through to the final. We excellent.
38 00:02:30.340 --> 00:02:30.890 chris edwards: News.
39 00:02:32.700 --> 00:02:37.193 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, for all those who want to watch it, and haven't seen it yet. This is a spoiler, alert
40 00:02:37.910 --> 00:02:40.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: bit late after the event. Sorry about that.
41 00:02:43.650 --> 00:02:45.299 Malcolm Daniels: Was fighting long enough.
42 00:02:45.880 --> 00:02:48.854 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, exactly 60 years or more.
43 00:02:51.510 --> 00:02:53.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon, Stuart.
44 00:02:53.340 --> 00:02:56.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good afternoon. Both Stewarts.
45 00:02:56.830 --> 00:02:57.165 Stuart Withington: It's.
46 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:04.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right. Who's taking the honours today? Does anyone have a question, Sheila? You must have a question.
47 00:03:05.920 --> 00:03:14.740 Sheila Churchward: Oops. I'll just turn my phone off 1st one. I'm wondering about the Epcs under parish layers. There's
48 00:03:14.790 --> 00:03:20.949 Sheila Churchward: there's Epcs. I imagine. That's those energy performance certificates.
49 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What do you mean under parish layers? Cause there is a whole bunch.
50 00:03:25.100 --> 00:03:25.480 Sheila Churchward: Is.
51 00:03:25.640 --> 00:03:32.340 Sheila Churchward: There's all in the ground after parish layers. There's assets planning neighborhood planning.
52 00:03:32.340 --> 00:03:32.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
53 00:03:33.060 --> 00:03:41.219 Sheila Churchward: To Crohn's, and then Epcs correct the Epcs. It says about current rating, etc.
54 00:03:42.040 --> 00:03:48.995 Sheila Churchward: Where does that actually come from? Because I would like to get Epcs put onto our
55 00:03:49.780 --> 00:03:53.579 Sheila Churchward: Victory Hall and the Deepway Centre.
56 00:03:53.740 --> 00:03:54.820 Sheila Churchward: and
57 00:03:55.264 --> 00:04:00.580 Sheila Churchward: the Football Club, because they're all owned by the Parish Council, and I was wondering.
58 00:04:00.760 --> 00:04:10.739 Sheila Churchward: are the Epcs already available looking at that? Or do we have to ha! Go and have ours done, and then add them to this system?
59 00:04:10.780 --> 00:04:15.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You have to have them done, and they get added for you. It's not your job to add them.
60 00:04:16.130 --> 00:04:16.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and.
61 00:04:16.660 --> 00:04:19.505 Stuart Withington: But but for public building it's
62 00:04:20.490 --> 00:04:24.259 Stuart Withington: I think, a Dec. Displayed energy certificate
63 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:30.260 Stuart Withington: which should be displayed at the entrance or near the entrance to the building.
64 00:04:30.820 --> 00:04:31.530 Sheila Churchward: Hi.
65 00:04:32.640 --> 00:04:37.709 Sheila Churchward: right? Because our our Victory hall is over a hundred years old.
66 00:04:38.400 --> 00:04:49.579 Sheila Churchward: and it's we're looking at putting solar panels on it. So we're going to have to get it structural a structural engineering, just to see if the roof will take it, because it's quite old
67 00:04:49.610 --> 00:04:58.829 Sheila Churchward: and it's heavy Tree Stone, and I don't know if you've heard of heavy tree Stone. It is generally gravel and sand compressed.
68 00:04:59.170 --> 00:04:59.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
69 00:05:00.180 --> 00:05:02.909 Sheila Churchward: So it fractures very easily.
70 00:05:03.830 --> 00:05:05.280 Sheila Churchward: which is reasonable.
71 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:05.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You too.
72 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:06.870 Sheila Churchward: Pardon.
73 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:09.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it a good insulator? Because if you're going to.
74 00:05:09.050 --> 00:05:09.740 Sheila Churchward: Who knows?
75 00:05:10.140 --> 00:05:12.170 Sheila Churchward: Oh, no! We have terrible, damp.
76 00:05:13.880 --> 00:05:14.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
77 00:05:15.246 --> 00:05:17.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: speaking as one who's recently
78 00:05:17.550 --> 00:05:23.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: put solar panels on his village hall roof, I can make some suggestions, one of which is that
79 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:28.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: get as much insulation into the roof as you can, because
80 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: if you're going to go further and actually heat
81 00:05:31.780 --> 00:05:37.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the village hall with your solar panels, you need to get, probably an air heat pump.
82 00:05:39.260 --> 00:05:42.630 Sheila Churchward: Oh, really move! Move out in August.
83 00:05:42.630 --> 00:05:49.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're amazingly economical to run the heat pumps. It's worth the money to put them in, because guess what all the rates are going to go up this winter.
84 00:05:51.470 --> 00:05:57.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and because Hinkley Point hasn't got anywhere close to producing our electricity at 3 points of kilowatt or something.
85 00:05:59.860 --> 00:06:09.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the other suggestion I could make to Sheila is that it's well worthwhile taking a look at your parish with those Epcs
86 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:10.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and
87 00:06:10.550 --> 00:06:18.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: taking the ones that don't have a certificate, or the ones that are too far down. They're sort of grade D, or lower.
88 00:06:18.210 --> 00:06:23.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, and going to a local supplier of insulation. Oh, sorry
89 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:25.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Epcs.
90 00:06:25.510 --> 00:06:28.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and saying, would you do a special rate
91 00:06:28.170 --> 00:06:33.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: for a whole bunch of people? In other words, Epcs are anywhere from about 60 to a hundred pounds time.
92 00:06:34.230 --> 00:06:45.569 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. But if you get through 50 or 60 houses in your village, and the same guy can do all of them in a couple of days, then he'll probably give you a much better rate. So everyone benefits.
93 00:06:46.620 --> 00:06:48.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's just a sort of passing thought
94 00:06:48.950 --> 00:06:51.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that may or may not be helpful to you.
95 00:06:52.090 --> 00:06:58.980 Sheila Churchward: We've actually got an engineer in the village who actually came along and did our house for our
96 00:06:59.230 --> 00:07:09.056 Sheila Churchward: Epc. When we want. We were thinking about moving, and so we had to get the Epc. And so he's he's quite local.
97 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:21.980 Sheila Churchward: so I'm sure I get a reasonable price from him. It's just that I saw these, and I've had a quick look through, and I can't find anything about villages, village halls.
98 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.700 Sheila Churchward: So I thought I'd ask you today
99 00:07:24.770 --> 00:07:29.769 Sheila Churchward: if I'm you know. Is there a catch? An easy way to find it
100 00:07:29.870 --> 00:07:30.950 Sheila Churchward: without.
101 00:07:30.950 --> 00:07:31.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sounds like you.
102 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:32.530 Sheila Churchward: For it.
103 00:07:32.530 --> 00:07:36.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sounds like you have to go and look for a Dec. Not an Epc.
104 00:07:36.080 --> 00:07:39.229 Stuart Withington: Yeah, it is a statutory requirement.
105 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:41.730 Sheila Churchward: A, DEC.
106 00:07:41.730 --> 00:07:43.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, so you're non compliant. We're talking to a criminal.
107 00:07:43.910 --> 00:07:45.480 Sheila Churchward: And noncompliant.
108 00:07:45.820 --> 00:07:46.159 Stuart Withington: Yes.
109 00:07:47.250 --> 00:07:49.539 Sheila Churchward: Well, you'll have to come and take the hole down.
110 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:54.719 Stuart Withington: You. You're speaking to 2 criminals. Not none of our public buildings have
111 00:07:54.890 --> 00:07:57.720 Stuart Withington: got any energy certificate at all.
112 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:00.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh! My! My!
113 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.550 Stuart Withington: Been trying to get them for the past year.
114 00:08:02.980 --> 00:08:04.720 Malcolm Daniels: Can I add that to 3.
115 00:08:06.770 --> 00:08:09.470 Sheila Churchward: Oh, dear! We're all coming out of the woodwork.
116 00:08:09.780 --> 00:08:10.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
117 00:08:10.890 --> 00:08:12.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: alright. Well.
118 00:08:13.372 --> 00:08:15.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: any other questions from anyone? Please.
119 00:08:16.890 --> 00:08:19.189 chris edwards: I've got a I've got a half a question.
120 00:08:19.190 --> 00:08:20.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank goodness! Well done, Chris.
121 00:08:22.860 --> 00:08:25.100 chris edwards: Right? Can I share my screen.
122 00:08:25.100 --> 00:08:26.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, please do.
123 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:28.820 chris edwards: Right? Where are we.
124 00:08:30.780 --> 00:08:37.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, by the way, those who aren't checking their chat, Stuart's just put the place to go and check for your building.
125 00:08:37.760 --> 00:08:38.669 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sheila.
126 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:40.209 Sheila Churchward: Alright. Thank you.
127 00:08:40.760 --> 00:08:43.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Online. Sorry, Chris. I beg pardon.
128 00:08:43.130 --> 00:08:52.740 chris edwards: That's quite all right. Yeah, here's my small parish, and the squiggly line up here is the northern border, which happens to be a river.
129 00:08:53.150 --> 00:08:55.749 chris edwards: Now, if I zoom in.
130 00:08:56.070 --> 00:09:05.269 chris edwards: I've already got the layer clicked, showing I think either 3% or 1% risk of surface water flooding.
131 00:09:07.640 --> 00:09:13.000 chris edwards: this this part of the field, and then in the bottom corner, this part of the field
132 00:09:13.460 --> 00:09:19.709 chris edwards: and 200 homes are expected to be built where I'm waggling my cursor.
133 00:09:20.100 --> 00:09:22.689 chris edwards: So let me just show you.
134 00:09:22.860 --> 00:09:25.060 chris edwards: On the left hand side below
135 00:09:25.340 --> 00:09:27.459 chris edwards: the Environment Agency flooded.
136 00:09:27.560 --> 00:09:29.440 chris edwards: Now we've got 2
137 00:09:30.740 --> 00:09:35.999 chris edwards: 2 layers sub layers. Risk of flooding from surface water, 1%,
138 00:09:36.680 --> 00:09:39.630 chris edwards: the next one up is 3%.
139 00:09:40.690 --> 00:09:47.820 chris edwards: Now, I would have thought that 3% would have been a greater area covered with this blue
140 00:09:48.220 --> 00:09:49.640 chris edwards: blue blob.
141 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:52.329 chris edwards: If I if I.
142 00:09:52.330 --> 00:09:53.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Other way around. Chris.
143 00:09:53.900 --> 00:09:54.919 chris edwards: We go down to one.
144 00:09:55.980 --> 00:09:56.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is he?
145 00:09:56.570 --> 00:09:58.289 chris edwards: 1% is bigger.
146 00:09:58.570 --> 00:10:12.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, you'd expect that, wouldn't you? Because the 3% has got a 3 times greater chance of happening. So it's going to be more frequent. So it'll probably happen with less water. But the 1% you're getting
147 00:10:12.660 --> 00:10:17.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: going to be a much larger chance, because it's rarer. So when it comes. It's a big event.
148 00:10:18.150 --> 00:10:21.210 chris edwards: Right? Okay, thanks for pointing that out. Graham.
149 00:10:21.500 --> 00:10:25.090 chris edwards: right? This, this particular field slopes.
150 00:10:25.550 --> 00:10:28.679 chris edwards: This is the high ground. This is the low ground.
151 00:10:28.990 --> 00:10:33.989 chris edwards: and we've got a railway line, a main railway trunk route here.
152 00:10:34.390 --> 00:10:39.314 chris edwards: and the developer just says, Oh, no problem
153 00:10:40.680 --> 00:10:50.880 chris edwards: there's very little risk of water surface water flooding down the bottom of the field. And hey, presto! Here! Here's the risk.
154 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:54.389 chris edwards: and I want to try and bring that to the fore
155 00:10:54.700 --> 00:10:58.500 chris edwards: when we do our negotiating with the developer.
156 00:10:59.100 --> 00:11:01.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Has he already got planning permission to do it?
157 00:11:01.760 --> 00:11:08.959 chris edwards: Yes, he has with conditions, but there's very little in terms of conditions regarding surface water.
158 00:11:09.970 --> 00:11:11.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or maybe hmm.
159 00:11:12.110 --> 00:11:16.140 chris edwards: And then, if I could bring in the conversation to
160 00:11:17.770 --> 00:11:19.230 chris edwards: Mr. Martok.
161 00:11:21.400 --> 00:11:23.349 chris edwards: Gosh! I've forgotten your name.
162 00:11:23.905 --> 00:11:24.460 Andrew Clegg: Andrew.
163 00:11:25.081 --> 00:11:27.568 chris edwards: I'm sorry, Andrew.
164 00:11:28.190 --> 00:11:29.549 Parish Clerk: I'm I'm great.
165 00:11:30.050 --> 00:11:31.919 chris edwards: The river brew here.
166 00:11:32.310 --> 00:11:38.059 chris edwards: and what the developers said to me is that if the if if the
167 00:11:38.500 --> 00:11:40.331 chris edwards: the sewer and the
168 00:11:41.820 --> 00:11:44.939 chris edwards: culvert is operating correctly.
169 00:11:45.370 --> 00:11:50.489 chris edwards: All this surface water is going to go under the railway tracks
170 00:11:50.700 --> 00:11:57.989 chris edwards: around a new car park next to our railway station and then dumped into the river brew here
171 00:11:58.310 --> 00:12:07.119 chris edwards: now would would the contamination of the phosphates and other things surely would have a drastic effect
172 00:12:07.220 --> 00:12:10.660 chris edwards: on the water just being tipped into the river.
173 00:12:11.590 --> 00:12:13.820 chris edwards: Would that be correct? My assumption.
174 00:12:14.380 --> 00:12:17.440 Andrew Clegg: Yes, you're probably correct. It'll make no difference, though.
175 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:17.920 Sheila Churchward: No
176 00:12:18.560 --> 00:12:19.929 Sheila Churchward: difference whatsoever.
177 00:12:20.321 --> 00:12:30.110 Andrew Clegg: Just a couple of points. About this, I think 3% is now 10%, or perhaps even 15%. In reality, in reality.
178 00:12:30.290 --> 00:12:41.210 Andrew Clegg: we are getting 3% ones. That's that's 3 3 times every 100 years. We're getting those almost every every 10 years now.
179 00:12:41.210 --> 00:12:42.020 chris edwards: Yeah, yeah.
180 00:12:42.741 --> 00:12:54.279 Andrew Clegg: and the other thing is that we're always trying to do. But no, nobody takes any notice at all, and that is to ask as a condition that the developers should
181 00:12:54.890 --> 00:13:02.978 Andrew Clegg: raise the threshold of the all the houses that are on the low end of the field, so that the water has to flow uphill about
182 00:13:03.350 --> 00:13:06.610 Andrew Clegg: a foot or 2 before it gets into the houses.
183 00:13:06.610 --> 00:13:07.100 chris edwards: Yes.
184 00:13:07.100 --> 00:13:13.400 Andrew Clegg: And and they haven't done that with us so far. And what we've got now is water flowing into houses.
185 00:13:13.470 --> 00:13:20.059 Andrew Clegg: and you know the modern houses that most of the developers are building are are actually timber framed
186 00:13:20.880 --> 00:13:42.010 Andrew Clegg: they they, and with a with a brick facade on the outside. But the strength of the house is in the timber frame, and of course that goes right down to the bottom, and you'll also find that there are ventilation holes underneath the bottom of the timber frame, which, of course, water can get right in.
187 00:13:42.070 --> 00:13:53.270 Andrew Clegg: So this is, we've tried raising this time after time after time with planners. Eventually the planners will come and take notice, I think, but they don't. They're not doing it at the moment.
188 00:13:53.270 --> 00:13:54.079 chris edwards: No, no.
189 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.600 Andrew Clegg: Not not in our area, not in Somerset.
190 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:00.580 chris edwards: Sure. Well, thanks for that, Andrew. Just to sort of finish off.
191 00:14:01.338 --> 00:14:08.470 chris edwards: This is a brand new, extremely expensive car park for the railway station.
192 00:14:08.940 --> 00:14:12.989 chris edwards: So if the water is building up in the fields
193 00:14:13.560 --> 00:14:16.030 chris edwards: goes under the tracks
194 00:14:16.110 --> 00:14:21.649 chris edwards: they've got, they've got a sewer go drain system going from this point here.
195 00:14:21.950 --> 00:14:25.810 chris edwards: round, round, round, round the Car Park.
196 00:14:25.880 --> 00:14:28.199 chris edwards: and then into the river brew here.
197 00:14:28.380 --> 00:14:33.490 chris edwards: So this has been flooded from time to time before it was a car park.
198 00:14:33.610 --> 00:14:34.285 chris edwards: So
199 00:14:35.310 --> 00:14:40.420 chris edwards: the consequences are going to be catastrophic, you know, with with high rainfall.
200 00:14:40.510 --> 00:14:42.430 chris edwards: If the sewers can't cope.
201 00:14:43.570 --> 00:14:44.762 chris edwards: Anyway, there we are.
202 00:14:45.420 --> 00:14:46.470 chris edwards: It's the calm.
203 00:14:46.470 --> 00:14:48.989 Andrew Clegg: Park? Does a car park have a porous surface.
204 00:14:49.540 --> 00:14:51.839 chris edwards: Well, it's it's the usual asphalt.
205 00:14:52.460 --> 00:14:54.149 Andrew Clegg: Oh, dear! I presume you did.
206 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:54.900 chris edwards: Yes, but it's
207 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:57.230 chris edwards: hmm.
208 00:14:57.740 --> 00:15:08.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you should have the Parish Council write a formal letter, Chris, saying that you're concerned about the flooding that's going to take place unless you have been warned.
209 00:15:08.430 --> 00:15:09.260 chris edwards: Yeah, yeah.
210 00:15:09.260 --> 00:15:12.150 Andrew Clegg: I really think you should get it on record.
211 00:15:12.150 --> 00:15:12.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
212 00:15:12.450 --> 00:15:12.720 chris edwards: Ing.
213 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:36.699 Andrew Clegg: If it, if it's on what what the only way of of get get enforcing this kind of thing is for people generally to know about it, and then it obviously becomes very difficult to insure houses, and that in turn causes the developers to take a little bit of notice, because it'll affect their sales.
214 00:15:36.700 --> 00:15:37.540 chris edwards: Yeah, for sure.
215 00:15:37.540 --> 00:15:56.840 Andrew Clegg: So far we've not got quite as far as that, although we're getting that way, and people are beginning to take more notice. Do you know, who is responsible for all the drainage, clearing the drains and so on around there? Is it the internal drainage board? Or is it the environment agency, or who.
216 00:15:57.880 --> 00:16:03.470 chris edwards: Good question, Andrew. I don't know the answer to that. But with Wessex water
217 00:16:04.970 --> 00:16:06.180 chris edwards: surprise.
218 00:16:07.820 --> 00:16:14.530 Sheila Churchward: It's usually the water authority around here and around next Minster. It is the water authority that we go to.
219 00:16:15.890 --> 00:16:18.330 Andrew Clegg: You mean Wessex, Wessex water.
220 00:16:18.330 --> 00:16:20.189 Sheila Churchward: Oh, where's south? West? Water.
221 00:16:20.190 --> 00:16:26.900 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, that's interesting, because they don't do that around us. It's the. It's the internal drainage board for the
222 00:16:28.330 --> 00:16:30.630 Andrew Clegg: catchment area of the Somerset levels.
223 00:16:30.820 --> 00:16:31.430 Sheila Churchward: Oh!
224 00:16:31.740 --> 00:16:32.169 Andrew Clegg: And just.
225 00:16:32.170 --> 00:16:33.140 chris edwards: Writing that down.
226 00:16:33.140 --> 00:16:49.949 Andrew Clegg: But they don't do all of it. The Environment Agency is responsible for some of our rivers, and the riparian owners are responsible for a lot of the ditches. So it's all a big mess, and it's a very difficult issue to we find to control.
227 00:16:50.160 --> 00:16:50.870 chris edwards: Yes.
228 00:16:51.290 --> 00:16:52.089 chris edwards: I'll be fine.
229 00:16:52.090 --> 00:16:58.060 Sheila Churchward: The Northern Us. States the water management is down to the southwest water.
230 00:16:58.450 --> 00:17:03.540 Sheila Churchward: that is, of course, if they will adopt what is provided, what is put in place by the
231 00:17:03.710 --> 00:17:05.140 Sheila Churchward: developers.
232 00:17:05.140 --> 00:17:05.630 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
233 00:17:05.630 --> 00:17:19.020 Sheila Churchward: Some places the developers have not built the surface water and the foul water drainage to the specifications required by southwest water, so they don't adopt them.
234 00:17:19.339 --> 00:17:21.290 Sheila Churchward: they won't adopt. Very well.
235 00:17:21.290 --> 00:17:22.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Always. Yeah.
236 00:17:22.619 --> 00:17:28.349 chris edwards: I've just come across this layer here. Environment agency waters
237 00:17:30.089 --> 00:17:32.609 chris edwards: would. I'll have to go through this
238 00:17:32.909 --> 00:17:34.269 chris edwards: later on. Today.
239 00:17:34.270 --> 00:17:34.770 Andrew Clegg: It's a new one.
240 00:17:34.770 --> 00:17:40.570 chris edwards: I'll have a look to see if anything is pertinent to my my situation here.
241 00:17:41.810 --> 00:17:51.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Whilst you're doing that, it's just worth pointing out, perhaps that that 3% and 1% chance of things happening is on a per year, basis not per 100 years.
242 00:17:52.180 --> 00:17:55.689 Andrew Clegg: Well, what it means is, it's 3 years in every 100,
243 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.449 Andrew Clegg: okay, or or 3% in a year.
244 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:03.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
245 00:18:03.490 --> 00:18:13.960 Andrew Clegg: But what we're getting now is we are getting 100 year floods every 10 years. We've had it now through 3 in the last 2025 years.
246 00:18:15.030 --> 00:18:15.879 Bob Grainger: Good afternoon. All
247 00:18:17.520 --> 00:18:20.290 Bob Grainger: I just echo what Andrew said. We're the same.
248 00:18:20.390 --> 00:18:25.009 Bob Grainger: We've we've had. We're getting 100 year floods every 10 or 15 years. Yeah.
249 00:18:26.100 --> 00:18:31.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you know what they say that 70 is the new 50, and they're now going a hundred years is the new 10.
250 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:31.880 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
251 00:18:36.380 --> 00:18:37.962 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I have
252 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:43.223 Graham Stoddart-Stones: a question from somebody that came in by email, which was,
253 00:18:43.950 --> 00:18:52.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm so sorry. Hey? Hey, Hazel, I see you there. You were saying how disappointed you were with the answer that you got from Suffolk Council.
254 00:18:52.860 --> 00:18:53.670 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Absolutely. Yes.
255 00:18:53.670 --> 00:18:58.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Request for layers, and I thought that it's possible.
256 00:18:58.370 --> 00:19:06.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The the question in the in the way it was asked was a little bit confusing to people who've got no idea what you're talking about.
257 00:19:06.620 --> 00:19:08.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's very well. I think
258 00:19:08.660 --> 00:19:24.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the approach you need to take is to say that we have parish online, which is a geographical information system and many other councils around the country are exporting their data layers to parish online. Could you please do the same
259 00:19:25.633 --> 00:19:32.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that way. She won't be able to fob you off by saying parish online has nothing to do with us, and therefore you're going to need to talk to the owner of the manufacturer.
260 00:19:32.550 --> 00:19:33.410 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yes.
261 00:19:34.230 --> 00:19:36.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: She did fob you off completely, didn't she?
262 00:19:37.890 --> 00:19:38.610 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Don't.
263 00:19:39.150 --> 00:19:43.019 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: I will endeavor to sort that out and see what
264 00:19:43.380 --> 00:19:44.380 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: comes.
265 00:19:44.380 --> 00:19:45.633 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good luck.
266 00:19:46.590 --> 00:19:55.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't know if you. It's worth reminding you, Helen, that if you go into the knowledge base in parish online and you type in council data.
267 00:19:55.780 --> 00:20:07.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you get a page up that tells you how to go about checking if they're doing any exports at all. And once you found that? Then you send that page to Simon Miles at Geosphere
268 00:20:07.130 --> 00:20:09.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and he'll take it from there for you.
269 00:20:10.370 --> 00:20:16.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just remember Council data. Put that into the search box in Knowledge Base.
270 00:20:16.460 --> 00:20:19.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you'll get instructions on what to do.
271 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:23.340 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Thank you.
272 00:20:24.070 --> 00:20:25.450 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Simon.
273 00:20:26.040 --> 00:20:28.180 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: or files.
274 00:20:29.170 --> 00:20:32.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Miles as in leagues, kilometres, yards.
275 00:20:32.390 --> 00:20:32.990 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Good.
276 00:20:33.590 --> 00:20:34.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Inches.
277 00:20:35.330 --> 00:20:37.049 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Just forgotten what you said. It was all.
278 00:20:39.380 --> 00:20:42.149 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Thank you very much. Thank you.
279 00:20:43.800 --> 00:20:49.340 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Anyway, I went through I can't find it again, but I went into the Council
280 00:20:51.830 --> 00:20:53.810 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: page website.
281 00:20:53.900 --> 00:20:58.580 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: and I could see all the different local councils
282 00:21:00.470 --> 00:21:03.890 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: but I couldn't find Marxham, which seemed so strange.
283 00:21:04.110 --> 00:21:05.347 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: So anyway, I'll
284 00:21:05.950 --> 00:21:09.299 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: I'll try that and see what what I can find out.
285 00:21:09.310 --> 00:21:12.029 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, good luck. Let us know how it goes on.
286 00:21:12.030 --> 00:21:13.180 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: It was. Thank you, Graham.
287 00:21:13.460 --> 00:21:14.480 prinson Thomas: The process.
288 00:21:17.690 --> 00:21:19.569 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I haven't had a chance to look. Is it?
289 00:21:20.110 --> 00:21:27.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is that Youtube from you, David? Is that the one about the guy in some foreign land. No, not for you.
290 00:21:28.060 --> 00:21:28.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We are all
291 00:21:29.940 --> 00:21:32.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that I owe the 4. Bang! 3 again.
292 00:21:33.360 --> 00:21:34.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: all right. What fun!
293 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:40.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank you for that! Did you come on with any questions, David, he said hopefully.
294 00:21:40.902 --> 00:21:42.230 David Newman: Yes, I was.
295 00:21:43.410 --> 00:21:48.080 David Newman: I've just been elected chair of our neighborhood planning, working group.
296 00:21:48.150 --> 00:21:48.700 prinson Thomas: And I.
297 00:21:48.700 --> 00:21:51.349 David Newman: Wondered what were the most useful layers.
298 00:21:51.350 --> 00:21:52.460 prinson Thomas: In Paris.
299 00:21:52.460 --> 00:21:56.179 David Newman: Online when preparing a Neighbourhood plan.
300 00:21:56.360 --> 00:21:56.990 Bob Grainger: Ha-ha!
301 00:21:57.790 --> 00:21:58.540 Bob Grainger: You probably.
302 00:21:58.540 --> 00:22:04.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Want to talk to Andrew about that. As far as I know, he's the last person to have completed a neighbourhood plan with parish online.
303 00:22:05.490 --> 00:22:09.519 Andrew Clegg: It's so long ago that I can't remember any of the details now.
304 00:22:09.898 --> 00:22:15.629 Andrew Clegg: In fact, there weren't any layers for for neighborhood planning when I did it.
305 00:22:15.790 --> 00:22:19.799 Andrew Clegg: So I actually can't can't really answer that
306 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:26.410 Andrew Clegg: the main function for that we use parish on and was to generate maps
307 00:22:26.510 --> 00:22:36.639 Andrew Clegg: to explain all the all the areas and the things things we were putting in the plan. So we've got lots of maps in the in the Neighborhood plan that were generated by parish online.
308 00:22:36.990 --> 00:22:39.079 David Newman: And what sort of maps.
309 00:22:39.140 --> 00:22:43.459 David Newman: or for what purposes, and what kind of maps did you produce.
310 00:22:43.460 --> 00:22:49.559 Andrew Clegg: We have a map showing showing the the development boundary.
311 00:22:49.720 --> 00:23:04.499 Andrew Clegg: We have a map showing green spaces that were registered green spaces. We have a map of green gaps. That is the gaps which are sacrosanct, we hope, between us and our and neighbouring small communities.
312 00:23:05.013 --> 00:23:13.739 Andrew Clegg: And there are more. I can't quite remember them off offhand. It was such a long time ago, but there are lots of maps.
313 00:23:14.460 --> 00:23:16.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Had quite a lot to say about flooding.
314 00:23:16.790 --> 00:23:25.909 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, we've got flood maps. Yes, that's right. We've got a whole, a whole annex about flooding, because we do get a lot of interesting floods.
315 00:23:26.060 --> 00:23:34.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And as I recall David for your neighbourhood plan to be accepted, it has to fall in line with your the local plan
316 00:23:34.180 --> 00:23:35.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: local county
317 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: produces, and you've got to show
318 00:23:38.700 --> 00:23:43.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: how your plan will dovetail into that one which is usually done with maps.
319 00:23:44.140 --> 00:23:45.200 Andrew Clegg: Yes, what?
320 00:23:45.800 --> 00:23:46.789 David Newman: Yeah, carry on.
321 00:23:46.790 --> 00:24:01.882 Andrew Clegg: That's what one of the things that happened is that the that eventually we had to agree with the with South, then South Somerset on 3 possible areas of future development between
322 00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:06.590 Andrew Clegg: then and 2036.
323 00:24:06.850 --> 00:24:10.969 Andrew Clegg: And they produced that map, and we had to add it on to ours.
324 00:24:11.930 --> 00:24:12.820 Sheila Churchward: Oh dear!
325 00:24:13.230 --> 00:24:21.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, David, just to check. You are familiar with the neighborhood planning layer in or collection within parish online.
326 00:24:23.410 --> 00:24:24.530 David Newman: no.
327 00:24:24.530 --> 00:24:25.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So 4.
328 00:24:25.580 --> 00:24:26.300 David Newman: We have one.
329 00:24:26.300 --> 00:24:28.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right? Okay.
330 00:24:30.080 --> 00:24:31.199 David Newman: Because before.
331 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:45.019 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is an entire collection of layers devoted to neighbourhood plans. So when you arrive you'll find that a lot of what you need to do in terms of infrastructure that is creating new layers has already been done for you, and all you need to do.
332 00:24:45.020 --> 00:24:45.510 Sheila Churchward: Cheers.
333 00:24:45.510 --> 00:24:46.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Data.
334 00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:46.900 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
335 00:24:47.300 --> 00:24:47.800 Bob Grainger: Now Graham.
336 00:24:47.800 --> 00:24:58.399 Sheila Churchward: We? We've already got layers. They've been designed by the other lady in our our parish council. The 3 3 of us have got access to parish online.
337 00:24:59.060 --> 00:25:02.549 Sheila Churchward: And we all have different ways of doing things.
338 00:25:02.980 --> 00:25:03.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oops!
339 00:25:04.590 --> 00:25:10.070 Sheila Churchward: And so the all everything to do with neighbourhood planning is actually under parish layers
340 00:25:10.410 --> 00:25:12.599 Sheila Churchward: instead of under neighbourhood planning
341 00:25:13.280 --> 00:25:20.200 Sheila Churchward: which cause will probably cause issues in the future. So we can have to talk about some sort of
342 00:25:20.540 --> 00:25:22.200 Sheila Churchward: collaboration.
343 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:31.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it's 1 of the real issues with parish online is that they keep bringing in new stuff. So anything you've done beforehand may well not correlate with what they've gone ahead and done.
344 00:25:31.820 --> 00:25:32.170 Sheila Churchward: No.
345 00:25:32.170 --> 00:25:33.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bob up to you, please.
346 00:25:34.250 --> 00:25:44.090 Andrew Clegg: I I think, Sheila, what you should do is complain to parish or ask for, ask parish online to introduce a system of folders
347 00:25:44.420 --> 00:25:45.969 Andrew Clegg: in the left hand column.
348 00:25:48.404 --> 00:25:51.445 Andrew Clegg: See if you have any better luck than we have.
349 00:25:52.600 --> 00:25:59.980 Sheila Churchward: We're just going through a neighborhood planning. Now we're producing a refresh of our current neighborhood plan, and
350 00:26:00.340 --> 00:26:01.630 Sheila Churchward: we are
351 00:26:01.800 --> 00:26:11.120 Sheila Churchward: finding that we would like building in within our envelope our village envelope, or the 3 village envelopes, is going to be.
352 00:26:11.460 --> 00:26:15.430 Sheila Churchward: but we would like to determine where they're going to be, and what they are.
353 00:26:15.850 --> 00:26:18.350 Sheila Churchward: and what sort of housing will be in it, and.
354 00:26:18.350 --> 00:26:18.960 Andrew Clegg: Jobs.
355 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:23.200 Sheila Churchward: Standard. And we're putting that into the neighbourhood plan.
356 00:26:23.490 --> 00:26:27.089 Sheila Churchward: And we've actually got some funding
357 00:26:27.750 --> 00:26:31.080 Sheila Churchward: to help produce this. And we've got support
358 00:26:31.090 --> 00:26:36.819 Sheila Churchward: from the local council, our district council. We've got a
359 00:26:37.150 --> 00:26:53.379 Sheila Churchward: a planner who is solely who's solely looking after us. He's got those other jobs, but if we've got any. Any issues. Is our nominated planner to talk to if we've got so we know that we're always going to be in line with the local plan.
360 00:26:54.870 --> 00:27:01.879 Sheila Churchward: and he's very helpful. But the money was very helpful, too. We had, I think we had 9,000 pounds towards the costs
361 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:08.650 Sheila Churchward: of sending out the questionnaires and producing the questionnaires and reviewing the data.
362 00:27:08.650 --> 00:27:09.370 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
363 00:27:09.630 --> 00:27:21.040 Andrew Clegg: we we employed a a consultant to do the basic work. It's it's a complex issue. And I, we had nobody who was
364 00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:27.130 Andrew Clegg: competent to do it for us, and we haven't. We haven't regretted that at all.
365 00:27:27.130 --> 00:27:27.960 Sheila Churchward: No, you won't.
366 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:29.140 Andrew Clegg: Consultant.
367 00:27:30.360 --> 00:27:31.080 Bob Grainger: Graham.
368 00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:33.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I was leaving it for you, Bob. Rather.
369 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.110 Bob Grainger: David, if I can give you some some advice.
370 00:27:36.210 --> 00:27:41.530 Bob Grainger: rather than saying what layers in parish camp parish online shall we use?
371 00:27:41.900 --> 00:27:47.049 Bob Grainger: And therefore then look for information to put into them. I think it should be driven the other way around.
372 00:27:47.130 --> 00:27:51.540 Bob Grainger: You will need to see in your neighbourhood, plan
373 00:27:52.100 --> 00:27:53.259 Bob Grainger: what features.
374 00:27:53.420 --> 00:27:54.029 prinson Thomas: But you.
375 00:27:54.030 --> 00:28:00.430 Bob Grainger: Want to best illustrate, and then find the functions within Farish online, which suits that best.
376 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:05.230 David Newman: Yes, I was actually thinking in the opposite direction.
377 00:28:05.600 --> 00:28:12.930 David Newman: Community mapping, where you ask people places alike and dislike and generate a layer from that.
378 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:23.869 Bob Grainger: Yeah. But again, that is driven. The data in the layer is driven by the data need rather than starting with the type of layer you've got, and then saying, What can I put in it?
379 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:25.890 David Newman: Right? Okay, yeah.
380 00:28:26.710 --> 00:28:31.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The other thing. I've just been to a lecture somewhere where the advice was.
381 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:47.239 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you do need to use a consultant, but you should do 80 or 90% of the work before you call the consultant in. And you just ask the consultant to rewrite what you've written in language that planning people understand.
382 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:52.430 Andrew Clegg: The trouble is, you need to ask the consultant what work you have to do.
383 00:28:53.280 --> 00:28:59.809 Andrew Clegg: We we did all the, all the legwork, and then he put it into planning, speak.
384 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:05.949 Andrew Clegg: And so that's that's important that that is really important. And he did a very good job. But yes, you're right.
385 00:29:05.970 --> 00:29:09.390 Andrew Clegg: We have to do what you have to do had to do all the work.
386 00:29:09.390 --> 00:29:11.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, otherwise, it gets extremely expensive.
387 00:29:11.660 --> 00:29:12.350 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
388 00:29:14.510 --> 00:29:16.549 Andrew Clegg: We did get him paid for
389 00:29:16.560 --> 00:29:19.889 Andrew Clegg: by by You know the government.
390 00:29:21.300 --> 00:29:22.150 Andrew Clegg: Oh.
391 00:29:23.700 --> 00:29:26.572 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, I I think there's no shortage of funding available.
392 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:32.669 David Newman: We're getting 18,000 from the government because we're a deprived area.
393 00:29:33.170 --> 00:29:33.900 Bob Grainger: Wow!
394 00:29:33.900 --> 00:29:34.740 Andrew Clegg: Hmm.
395 00:29:34.740 --> 00:29:35.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All done.
396 00:29:36.670 --> 00:29:42.449 David Newman: Which, although they say there are things that aren't covered by that and that consultants will have to charge more.
397 00:29:42.470 --> 00:29:44.700 David Newman: So we're trying to investigate that.
398 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.859 Sheila Churchward: Have you got a time limit? We had a time limit for our money.
399 00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:53.459 David Newman: They tend to be limited.
400 00:29:53.670 --> 00:29:58.840 David Newman: At least each phase is limited to the financial year.
401 00:29:59.080 --> 00:30:05.949 David Newman: Oh, so we're going to try and do 10,000 this year, and 8,000 next financial year.
402 00:30:07.050 --> 00:30:10.700 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. The time creeps along very quickly, doesn't it?
403 00:30:15.280 --> 00:30:18.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. Let me check now. Let's see Princeton
404 00:30:19.590 --> 00:30:20.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: of you to join us again.
405 00:30:20.980 --> 00:30:21.679 prinson Thomas: Yeah, yeah.
406 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.599 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You come on with a whole bunch of questions, or you just waiting for your session.
407 00:30:25.600 --> 00:30:30.589 prinson Thomas: No, I'm just learning from everybody so far, so pinning down some notes here.
408 00:30:30.590 --> 00:30:31.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right? Okay.
409 00:30:31.580 --> 00:30:32.210 prinson Thomas: Yeah.
410 00:30:34.730 --> 00:30:36.529 prinson Thomas: I need to learn a lot of things.
411 00:30:37.650 --> 00:30:39.014 Sheila Churchward: Has anybody been
412 00:30:39.520 --> 00:30:42.880 Sheila Churchward: sent information on biodiversity net gain yet?
413 00:30:43.470 --> 00:30:46.159 Sheila Churchward: And how we integrate that into here.
414 00:30:46.980 --> 00:30:50.989 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There is lots of information available that I can send you if you wish. Here.
415 00:30:50.990 --> 00:31:03.980 Sheila Churchward: No, no, there's plenty going on. I was wondering, are we going? Are we gonna incorporate in parish online somewhere? The the biodiversity net gain that is provided, and every time a planning application comes through.
416 00:31:04.800 --> 00:31:07.280 Sheila Churchward: is that going to be worthwhile? Do you think, or is it.
417 00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:08.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's great!
418 00:31:08.050 --> 00:31:10.690 Sheila Churchward: Added stuff that we don't really need.
419 00:31:10.690 --> 00:31:27.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think Stuart Bacon had the answer to this, that basically it may be that the solution to your biodiversity net gain is to offset it by a gain elsewhere, and if that's outside your parish boundary, that may not be so easy to.
420 00:31:28.090 --> 00:31:28.810 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
421 00:31:29.270 --> 00:31:30.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it's
422 00:31:30.180 --> 00:31:33.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: again. It's only a matter of
423 00:31:33.780 --> 00:31:43.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: not being able to record it. If you're going to be publishing the answers in a public map. There's no issue with parish online recording stuff in other people's boundaries.
424 00:31:43.300 --> 00:31:45.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's just that you won't be able to publish it.
425 00:31:47.710 --> 00:31:48.520 Sheila Churchward: Thank you.
426 00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:51.120 Sheila Churchward: Hmm.
427 00:31:51.120 --> 00:31:52.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, you're looking for inspiration.
428 00:31:53.622 --> 00:31:55.030 Stuart Bacon: Was thinking it it
429 00:31:55.210 --> 00:32:01.429 Stuart Bacon: so you can't publish it. You can't publish it as a interactive map, as a public map.
430 00:32:01.540 --> 00:32:05.119 Stuart Bacon: You can print it to a Pdf or a
431 00:32:07.330 --> 00:32:10.350 Stuart Bacon: or a graphic file and publish it that way.
432 00:32:10.350 --> 00:32:14.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Indeed. Yeah, absolutely. It's purely, purely a matter of public mapping is the issue
433 00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:21.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: is you can't public map outside your parish boundary more than a couple of 100 meters.
434 00:32:22.580 --> 00:32:24.479 Andrew Clegg: I think one of the issues of
435 00:32:25.310 --> 00:32:29.089 Andrew Clegg: by biodiversity net gain
436 00:32:29.310 --> 00:32:33.890 Andrew Clegg: is to start by knowing your parish.
437 00:32:33.890 --> 00:32:34.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Having a baseline.
438 00:32:34.930 --> 00:32:59.149 Andrew Clegg: Having a baseline, and where where the biodiversity hotspots are, and where the what are, where the important corridors are and things like that. And that's quite a complex issue. So far I've not seen anybody in in authority in Somerset offering a way of helping us to do that. So we're we're sort of starting on our own.
439 00:33:00.350 --> 00:33:01.750 Stuart Bacon: I think. Unfortunately.
440 00:33:02.340 --> 00:33:03.930 Stuart Bacon: the whole sort of
441 00:33:04.100 --> 00:33:13.930 Stuart Bacon: process is probably down to the fact that there's so very few offices running the Bng stuff for your.
442 00:33:13.930 --> 00:33:14.520 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
443 00:33:14.520 --> 00:33:18.110 Stuart Bacon: Anyway. They're not gonna have time
444 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:19.700 Stuart Bacon: to be able to sort of
445 00:33:20.690 --> 00:33:28.400 Stuart Bacon: spend on looking at individual parishes. And and what can go on outside of what is coming in through each buying application.
446 00:33:30.150 --> 00:33:33.459 Andrew Clegg: We've had some help from the Wildlife Trust.
447 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:50.640 Andrew Clegg: but not very specific help. We we you know, they can point us in the direction of parts of the parish which are important, and then we have to do. We have to map them. We have to do do more research on them, and so on.
448 00:33:51.382 --> 00:33:57.000 Andrew Clegg: But I think the key things is to know around the village boundary
449 00:33:57.700 --> 00:34:00.920 Andrew Clegg: where the important where the Hotspots are.
450 00:34:03.790 --> 00:34:06.779 Andrew Clegg: because that's where the development is most likely to be.
451 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You stunned everybody, Andrew. Silence all round.
452 00:34:16.030 --> 00:34:18.960 Andrew Clegg: Bats. That's the important thing. Go for bats and newts.
453 00:34:21.170 --> 00:34:27.200 Stuart Bacon: Also understanding who your your landowners are. Yeah, yeah.
454 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:32.539 Stuart Bacon: Which ones, then, might be more or less willing to let some of their land
455 00:34:32.730 --> 00:34:34.690 Stuart Bacon: go for B and G projects.
456 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:35.600 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
457 00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:45.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright! Let me make a formal request for any other questions. Please.
458 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:46.820 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Graham, please.
459 00:34:46.820 --> 00:34:47.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hazel.
460 00:34:47.510 --> 00:34:51.549 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Can I share my screen, and you tell me what you will, what you meant.
461 00:34:54.020 --> 00:34:54.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's.
462 00:34:54.550 --> 00:34:56.446 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Sorry I've gone into
463 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:02.540 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: my parish online, and I'm not quite sure what I'm doing.
464 00:35:02.690 --> 00:35:04.469 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: So if I could share.
465 00:35:04.470 --> 00:35:05.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sure. Go ahead!
466 00:35:05.560 --> 00:35:06.990 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Tell me what I'm doing.
467 00:35:11.620 --> 00:35:13.610 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Bite the knowledge.
468 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:19.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. So if you go up to the cogwheel in the top right corner, click on, help and support.
469 00:35:19.710 --> 00:35:20.600 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yes.
470 00:35:21.910 --> 00:35:25.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, if you just type in that search box council data.
471 00:35:26.640 --> 00:35:31.809 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: COUN, CILT, a, TA.
472 00:35:31.810 --> 00:35:32.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
473 00:35:32.620 --> 00:35:35.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You see, it says, requests for Council Day the 1st green one.
474 00:35:36.470 --> 00:35:38.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, the only green one. There you go.
475 00:35:38.580 --> 00:35:39.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then
476 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:48.519 Graham Stoddart-Stones: what they're basically saying is, take a look to see if there is anybody any information being published by Suffolk, isn't it in your area.
477 00:35:48.690 --> 00:35:49.590 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: All right.
478 00:35:49.590 --> 00:35:53.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Suffolk Council, and there are various ways they suggest. You look for it.
479 00:35:54.030 --> 00:36:01.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, having found a page where it is already being exported by them. You send that to Simon.
480 00:36:01.950 --> 00:36:09.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and he will take care of getting it into parish online for you, since the Council is already publishing it. It should be a piece of cake.
481 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:17.189 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Thank you very much, I but and I got to there. But I didn't have the sense to type in
482 00:36:18.140 --> 00:36:20.220 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: the kind of data.
483 00:36:20.220 --> 00:36:21.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're there! You're there now.
484 00:36:22.310 --> 00:36:23.660 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Thank you very much.
485 00:36:27.990 --> 00:36:32.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now this is the point of the afternoon where I announced that somebody else can take over this.
486 00:36:32.970 --> 00:36:35.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: because I've run out of questions to ask.
487 00:36:37.710 --> 00:36:38.710 Sheila Churchward: Right.
488 00:36:40.490 --> 00:36:52.599 Sheila Churchward: No, I've still got to do what you you explained to me before in the last but one session, where I was talking about planning and neighborhood planning, and
489 00:36:52.670 --> 00:36:54.360 Sheila Churchward: I wanted to make
490 00:36:55.820 --> 00:36:59.790 Sheila Churchward: the areas of our new development
491 00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:01.510 Sheila Churchward: large.
492 00:37:01.630 --> 00:37:07.279 Sheila Churchward: but the actual planning applications in a different layer.
493 00:37:07.580 --> 00:37:09.220 Sheila Churchward: But just dots.
494 00:37:10.300 --> 00:37:13.140 Sheila Churchward: I haven't got to do that. I've got it all written down here.
495 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:17.499 Sheila Churchward: I'm just checking. I haven't got any more questions. I just haven't had time to do it.
496 00:37:18.650 --> 00:37:19.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, so.
497 00:37:19.590 --> 00:37:23.620 Sheila Churchward: That is quite interesting when you were talking to me about planning
498 00:37:24.303 --> 00:37:27.620 Sheila Churchward: because we've got major planning applications. So
499 00:37:27.870 --> 00:37:40.320 Sheila Churchward: it's nice to put the outline of the area in. But the individual plans that come in through are just going a different layer. But and dots
500 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.759 Sheila Churchward: like different dots for different types of of
501 00:37:44.530 --> 00:37:45.880 Sheila Churchward: buildings.
502 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, we it it.
503 00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:55.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can do it either way. You can do it as dots, or you can put them in as polygons, but they'll show up inside your major area.
504 00:37:56.297 --> 00:38:01.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But the the beauty of the polygons is, it shows you the area in which the
505 00:38:01.500 --> 00:38:04.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: planning application is going to take place.
506 00:38:04.650 --> 00:38:08.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But the beauty of the dots is, it's usually a lot easier to understand.
507 00:38:08.830 --> 00:38:10.159 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. It's been.
508 00:38:10.160 --> 00:38:16.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or much more much more better for presentation purposes.
509 00:38:16.580 --> 00:38:23.999 Sheila Churchward: We've got a new assistant to the clerks, and she's going to going to come on the training course with you. Brilliant.
510 00:38:24.130 --> 00:38:39.069 Sheila Churchward: Yes, so that's 1 other reason why we have to get together and collaborate on how we use it. So we don't clash, and we don't. You know, we all follow the same sort of rules, so to speak.
511 00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:46.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because you're all creating your own layers. It shouldn't be an issue unless they start needing to use your layers.
512 00:38:46.070 --> 00:38:52.899 Sheila Churchward: Yes, well, they will. They'll be adding information into the different layers. It's not my layer. It's a layer for a certain.
513 00:38:54.069 --> 00:38:54.929 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Anyways.
514 00:38:54.930 --> 00:38:55.900 Sheila Churchward: So we got it.
515 00:38:56.260 --> 00:39:01.679 Sheila Churchward: Yeah. And there's some people might be naming the functions differently. This sort of thing.
516 00:39:01.680 --> 00:39:04.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know. I know basic communications is crazy.
517 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:05.280 Sheila Churchward: Basic yeah.
518 00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:05.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
519 00:39:05.790 --> 00:39:17.429 Sheila Churchward: But we all work. We all work at home in, off, you know, online. So it's not as though we go. Just sit down together, or we could, we might have to come to that. Sit down and work it out. What we're gonna do.
520 00:39:18.220 --> 00:39:20.289 Sheila Churchward: But she's got to have the training first.st
521 00:39:21.310 --> 00:39:30.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it it sounds like you've grasped one of the fundamentals in your council area of actually having people talk to each other, which is a very strange idea.
522 00:39:31.660 --> 00:39:31.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: this.
523 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:34.040 Sheila Churchward: It's all women
524 00:39:34.350 --> 00:39:36.199 Sheila Churchward: we do tend to chat a lot more.
525 00:39:38.580 --> 00:39:39.660 Sheila Churchward: It's all about work.
526 00:39:39.660 --> 00:39:42.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Excluded from the next 10 meetings. I'm afraid.
527 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:43.880 Sheila Churchward: Who's that?
528 00:39:44.580 --> 00:39:45.700 Sheila Churchward: Thank you.
529 00:39:45.700 --> 00:39:47.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're very welcome.
530 00:39:49.700 --> 00:39:59.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is the chance. Oh, no, don't have a chance to ask. I say, this is a chance to ask Stuart bacon for input, because he's no longer in his chair. But he is. He's just hunched over in horror.
531 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:07.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, you got any of the wonderful presentations you've done in the past of clever things that you're doing with parish online in your area.
532 00:40:09.448 --> 00:40:18.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Saying you've got, say, somebody like Princeton, who's brand new and is trying to pick up information. If you can just show something that you've done that maybe you haven't seen anybody else doing
533 00:40:18.940 --> 00:40:20.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: that would be good.
534 00:40:22.780 --> 00:40:23.340 Stuart Bacon: But yes.
535 00:40:23.340 --> 00:40:24.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sinking hat on.
536 00:40:24.950 --> 00:40:25.295 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.
537 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.240 Stuart Bacon: sorry. I've just lost my parish online window.
538 00:40:39.560 --> 00:40:41.000 Stuart Bacon: wasn't.
539 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.920 Parish Clerk: Can't use that old chestnut again. We had that last week.
540 00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:46.770 Stuart Bacon: I want to work fine.
541 00:40:47.710 --> 00:40:48.500 Stuart Bacon: Alright.
542 00:40:52.380 --> 00:40:53.210 Stuart Bacon: okay.
543 00:40:53.980 --> 00:40:55.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you are! Well done!
544 00:40:56.150 --> 00:40:56.910 prinson Thomas: It's long.
545 00:40:56.910 --> 00:40:58.350 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So we are seeing that.
546 00:41:00.250 --> 00:41:03.079 Stuart Bacon: Do that. So I guess. Yeah, one of the.
547 00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:12.489 Sheila Churchward: I'll get all my stuff out first.st Oh, you have.
548 00:41:17.600 --> 00:41:18.450 Stuart Bacon: And we've.
549 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.249 Sheila Churchward: Oh, you've done what I've got like.
550 00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:28.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, what's Mvas moving vehicle assessments on the other.
551 00:41:28.130 --> 00:41:31.310 Stuart Bacon: No mobile vehicle activated signs.
552 00:41:31.620 --> 00:41:32.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
553 00:41:33.420 --> 00:41:34.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And we.
554 00:41:35.747 --> 00:41:36.969 Stuart Bacon: Sorry. I'm just.
555 00:41:36.970 --> 00:41:39.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Where the emergency vehicles can turn them on.
556 00:41:40.272 --> 00:41:41.809 Stuart Bacon: No, this is
557 00:41:42.613 --> 00:41:44.480 Stuart Bacon: we've we've got a a
558 00:41:44.660 --> 00:41:46.380 Stuart Bacon: collection of
559 00:41:47.310 --> 00:41:51.210 Stuart Bacon: speak data, signs and locations where we can
560 00:41:51.380 --> 00:41:54.540 Stuart Bacon: put them around the village.
561 00:41:54.730 --> 00:41:58.724 Stuart Bacon: So we've got 3 static locations.
562 00:41:59.630 --> 00:42:00.540 Stuart Bacon: a
563 00:42:00.770 --> 00:42:02.700 Stuart Bacon: down the bottom, and and there
564 00:42:02.770 --> 00:42:04.801 Stuart Bacon: and then the other
565 00:42:05.560 --> 00:42:11.750 Stuart Bacon: 8 mobile. So sites where we can put sort of different signs if we need to.
566 00:42:12.070 --> 00:42:14.939 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, manage it as we go forward.
567 00:42:17.390 --> 00:42:21.379 Stuart Bacon: But yeah, no, I mean that. That's 1 of the things we've we've done
568 00:42:23.090 --> 00:42:25.593 Stuart Bacon: to to manage that
569 00:42:26.460 --> 00:42:27.620 Stuart Bacon: as well as.
570 00:42:29.020 --> 00:42:29.790 Malcolm Daniels: Hold on!
571 00:42:29.790 --> 00:42:31.386 Stuart Bacon: I'm looking at.
572 00:42:32.750 --> 00:42:34.619 Stuart Bacon: we managed to sort of
573 00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:38.889 Stuart Bacon: yeah map all of the the street lights around the village.
574 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:41.979 Stuart Bacon: And then
575 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:43.470 Stuart Bacon: Hello!
576 00:42:44.040 --> 00:42:47.940 Stuart Bacon: Everything's changed in the background, and I've now got
577 00:42:49.690 --> 00:42:52.270 Stuart Bacon: I mean, lights not showing up as street lights.
578 00:42:52.590 --> 00:42:55.950 Stuart Bacon: Okay, don't don't show that one that's gone wrong.
579 00:42:57.500 --> 00:42:59.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, they weren't streetlights, were they?
580 00:42:59.780 --> 00:43:00.180 Sheila Churchward: No.
581 00:43:00.600 --> 00:43:06.459 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, no, these these in the center, all down the road there, and whatever
582 00:43:06.850 --> 00:43:10.460 Stuart Bacon: should have been showing up as blue ones as
583 00:43:11.370 --> 00:43:12.843 Stuart Bacon: starting columns.
584 00:43:16.790 --> 00:43:19.089 Stuart Bacon: should have been showing up as lamp posts, but they just.
585 00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:23.369 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so an issue in styling.
586 00:43:23.860 --> 00:43:24.450 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.
587 00:43:24.810 --> 00:43:25.600 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
588 00:43:25.600 --> 00:43:28.330 Stuart Bacon: I'll I'll have to sort of look into that one.
589 00:43:28.740 --> 00:43:32.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You wouldn't like to do that now, as a matter of vast interest to everybody.
590 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:33.872 Stuart Bacon: Yeah. Now I can.
591 00:43:35.310 --> 00:43:36.530 Stuart Bacon: hey, 3
592 00:43:36.870 --> 00:43:38.140 Stuart Bacon: nice to hear that
593 00:43:44.040 --> 00:43:45.000 Stuart Bacon: it's going on.
594 00:43:47.690 --> 00:43:48.360 Stuart Bacon: Hmm.
595 00:43:48.850 --> 00:43:50.219 Stuart Bacon: oh, that's interesting.
596 00:43:50.810 --> 00:43:52.420 Stuart Bacon: Technology. Don't want to work.
597 00:43:53.460 --> 00:43:54.730 Sheila Churchward: No, no.
598 00:43:54.730 --> 00:43:57.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's general to everybody in the
599 00:43:57.510 --> 00:44:00.616 Graham Stoddart-Stones: parish online has decided it's Friday afternoon.
600 00:44:01.552 --> 00:44:02.537 Andrew Clegg: Make sure.
601 00:44:03.030 --> 00:44:03.410 prinson Thomas: Okay.
602 00:44:03.410 --> 00:44:06.920 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, no refreshing. It's kicked me out entirely. So yeah.
603 00:44:07.180 --> 00:44:10.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright! So they have done it again to us right.
604 00:44:12.700 --> 00:44:13.880 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, they have.
605 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:14.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, you're in.
606 00:44:14.930 --> 00:44:16.020 Andrew Clegg: No, I've got it.
607 00:44:16.200 --> 00:44:17.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right!
608 00:44:17.240 --> 00:44:19.210 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, it takes a while.
609 00:44:25.810 --> 00:44:27.520 Stuart Bacon: Parks and bones.
610 00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:29.139 Stuart Bacon: So I'm.
611 00:44:30.680 --> 00:44:31.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There we go!
612 00:44:32.050 --> 00:44:32.770 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
613 00:44:43.700 --> 00:44:47.399 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You have to call it streetlight, and then you do. There you go. Yeah.
614 00:44:50.650 --> 00:44:55.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I love the way you distinguish between those that are on all night, and those that go on and off.
615 00:44:59.670 --> 00:45:05.019 Stuart Bacon: If only there was a way to sort of change. The background colors of the graphics, though that would be.
616 00:45:05.020 --> 00:45:06.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know, I know.
617 00:45:07.830 --> 00:45:08.480 Andrew Clegg: Hmm.
618 00:45:08.740 --> 00:45:10.539 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have to put up with their choices.
619 00:45:12.080 --> 00:45:13.890 Stuart Bacon: And I now can't remember what.
620 00:45:14.545 --> 00:45:15.030 Stuart Bacon: Excellent!
621 00:45:18.710 --> 00:45:19.829 Stuart Bacon: Oh, no, it won't.
622 00:45:20.540 --> 00:45:22.259 Stuart Bacon: So all noise.
623 00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:25.219 Stuart Bacon: Oh, no, it's a
624 00:45:25.240 --> 00:45:26.520 Stuart Bacon: we'll go red
625 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.320 Stuart Bacon: apartment.
626 00:45:38.850 --> 00:45:39.710 Stuart Bacon: Okay.
627 00:45:39.820 --> 00:45:41.270 Stuart Bacon: very careful.
628 00:45:45.720 --> 00:45:46.560 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go!
629 00:45:53.390 --> 00:45:56.860 Sheila Churchward: It's so complex, isn't it? When you get into it.
630 00:45:58.070 --> 00:45:58.770 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.
631 00:45:59.450 --> 00:46:04.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, yes and no. I think it's a remarkable system.
632 00:46:04.810 --> 00:46:05.650 Sheila Churchward: Yes, but.
633 00:46:05.650 --> 00:46:07.839 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There is a learning curve, I agree.
634 00:46:08.430 --> 00:46:13.360 Stuart Bacon: I think what you can see from that is as much as I've made that change.
635 00:46:14.420 --> 00:46:15.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And nothing's happened.
636 00:46:15.740 --> 00:46:19.310 Stuart Bacon: I've got to go back and change it again, because I don't think the sizings are correct.
637 00:46:20.080 --> 00:46:20.980 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.
638 00:46:21.530 --> 00:46:24.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, the red ones are not showing up as large enough, are they?
639 00:46:25.830 --> 00:46:26.710 Sheila Churchward: Oh cause!
640 00:46:26.890 --> 00:46:30.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Everyone else is 20 and your tens only like tens. Yeah.
641 00:46:30.570 --> 00:46:31.170 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
642 00:46:38.150 --> 00:46:40.000 Stuart Bacon: Yeah, make sure. You.
643 00:46:40.650 --> 00:46:41.400 Sheila Churchward: Not
644 00:46:44.754 --> 00:46:47.119 Sheila Churchward: posts on telegraph polls as well.
645 00:46:47.890 --> 00:46:48.810 Sheila Churchward: Yeah, yeah.
646 00:46:48.810 --> 00:46:52.230 Stuart Bacon: Yeah. Cause we've got that many different types of
647 00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:59.640 Stuart Bacon: locations for them that we're yeah. They're not always of on their own host. It's just.
648 00:47:00.610 --> 00:47:00.960 Sheila Churchward: Stick.
649 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:01.660 Stuart Bacon: From
650 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:02.670 Stuart Bacon: Oh, Boy
651 00:47:03.380 --> 00:47:06.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did you have to put all those in manually yourself, or did you export.
652 00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:11.320 Stuart Bacon: Sadly. Yes, yeah, no, as they the county.
653 00:47:11.420 --> 00:47:14.769 Stuart Bacon: and so have a map of their
654 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.739 Stuart Bacon: street lights. But
655 00:47:18.090 --> 00:47:24.330 Stuart Bacon: like giving the details to Simon. He wasn't able to integrate them in Irish online. So I've had to go through and
656 00:47:24.530 --> 00:47:25.870 Stuart Bacon: map them all.
657 00:47:25.890 --> 00:47:27.140 Stuart Bacon: Oh, gosh!
658 00:47:27.620 --> 00:47:27.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Wow!
659 00:47:28.670 --> 00:47:29.520 Sheila Churchward: Wow!
660 00:47:29.520 --> 00:47:31.700 Stuart Bacon: We're only a relatively small
661 00:47:32.170 --> 00:47:34.860 Stuart Bacon: parish. So anybody of
662 00:47:35.070 --> 00:47:36.120 Stuart Bacon: larger
663 00:47:36.888 --> 00:47:39.131 Stuart Bacon: community, and whatever would have
664 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:41.209 Stuart Bacon: what a challenge.
665 00:47:42.060 --> 00:47:45.699 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, we have Scott on here occasionally from Bridgewater.
666 00:47:46.120 --> 00:47:54.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Prince. I don't know if you know Scott, but he had to put in literally hundreds of these things, but he was able to do it from
667 00:47:54.400 --> 00:48:02.039 Graham Stoddart-Stones: knowing the right. He came from Somerset Council, so he he was able to call up the right people and say, Please do this, and please do that.
668 00:48:05.096 --> 00:48:07.000 Stuart Bacon: One of the other
669 00:48:10.410 --> 00:48:14.080 Stuart Bacon: one of the other things we've done. Yes, is
670 00:48:14.420 --> 00:48:17.709 Stuart Bacon: mapping out every route for
671 00:48:19.086 --> 00:48:21.199 Stuart Bacon: newsletters, so
672 00:48:21.580 --> 00:48:28.369 Stuart Bacon: I can work out the amount of newsletters to print, to get to each house, to get to each house.
673 00:48:29.037 --> 00:48:34.310 Stuart Bacon: using a a map there and breaking it down with.
674 00:48:34.790 --> 00:48:35.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The addresses.
675 00:48:35.900 --> 00:48:37.560 Stuart Bacon: Addresses. Yeah.
676 00:48:40.730 --> 00:48:43.930 Stuart Bacon: And then being able to sort of work out from
677 00:48:45.650 --> 00:48:47.900 Stuart Bacon: from that, how many.
678 00:48:48.170 --> 00:48:51.500 Stuart Bacon: of how many properties exist in each area.
679 00:48:51.820 --> 00:48:53.290 Sheila Churchward: That's economical.
680 00:48:53.290 --> 00:48:53.890 Stuart Bacon: Yeah.
681 00:48:57.740 --> 00:48:58.450 Stuart Bacon: 25.
682 00:49:00.980 --> 00:49:06.509 Andrew Clegg: Stuart, can I ask you one question about about the bars and the lamp posts and stuff?
683 00:49:06.990 --> 00:49:28.049 Andrew Clegg: What are the advantages, or of putting all those on the same layer rather than having a bollard layer and a lamp post layer, and so on. Because I've tended to go. I don't use parish online. I use an xmap. And I'm it's very, very similar. But I've tended to go the opposite and actually
684 00:49:28.090 --> 00:49:36.440 Andrew Clegg: have a multiple multiple layers with fewer things on, because that gives me the opportunity easily of just
685 00:49:36.958 --> 00:49:40.629 Andrew Clegg: focusing on 1 1 aspect like, you know.
686 00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:47.509 Andrew Clegg: just a map of all the lamp posts that are on all night, for example.
687 00:49:47.750 --> 00:49:50.570 Andrew Clegg: why have you chosen to put everything on one layer.
688 00:49:50.860 --> 00:49:51.790 prinson Thomas: Whatever.
689 00:49:52.312 --> 00:49:53.880 Stuart Bacon: Perhaps by going
690 00:49:54.449 --> 00:49:58.950 Stuart Bacon: but the one of the options that I I thought is
691 00:50:00.110 --> 00:50:01.330 Stuart Bacon: you can.
692 00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.909 Stuart Bacon: If if you did only want to look at sort of.
693 00:50:04.910 --> 00:50:05.999 Andrew Clegg: Can filter. Yeah.
694 00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:06.830 Sheila Churchward: Filter.
695 00:50:06.830 --> 00:50:08.670 Stuart Bacon: Go through it down and work it out.
696 00:50:09.266 --> 00:50:10.380 prinson Thomas: That way.
697 00:50:10.380 --> 00:50:11.540 Stuart Bacon: And I
698 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.380 Stuart Bacon: all of the info there, and then filter it down.
699 00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:19.339 prinson Thomas: If that makes sense.
700 00:50:21.470 --> 00:50:21.830 Stuart Bacon: Also.
701 00:50:21.830 --> 00:50:26.220 Parish Clerk: Andrew, still asking for the folders to be able to put all the layers in a folder.
702 00:50:26.220 --> 00:50:27.519 Andrew Clegg: That's the bigger side.
703 00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:30.909 Parish Clerk: Rather than having hundreds in his list. Yeah.
704 00:50:31.100 --> 00:50:37.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Funny enough. I was going to go the opposite way. And say, Andrew, you're the person who's got so many layers. You can't remember what the coding is for them all.
705 00:50:38.140 --> 00:51:00.319 Andrew Clegg: No? Well, I can't remember the parish, the parish online codings, because I haven't done much parish online stuff. Recently, although I've just been asked to sort of re restart an interest in it in in the parish last week, so I shall be spending a lot of time walking around around the village looking looking for dog pins. In the next week or 2.
706 00:51:01.420 --> 00:51:03.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Don't forget to take your phone with you.
707 00:51:04.750 --> 00:51:07.300 Stuart Bacon: I mean, I already got that information.
708 00:51:07.660 --> 00:51:09.499 Stuart Bacon: anyway, though by
709 00:51:10.130 --> 00:51:13.570 Stuart Bacon: where they are, and fact that you already own them, and
710 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:14.950 Stuart Bacon: who was.
711 00:51:14.950 --> 00:51:23.759 Andrew Clegg: There are some that are lost. You see, the authority have told us we've got 26, or something, and we can only find 24 something like that.
712 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:29.720 Stuart Bacon: They're charging you for 26 only they've got a
713 00:51:29.820 --> 00:51:32.880 Stuart Bacon: a descriptor at least of where
714 00:51:33.090 --> 00:51:35.449 Stuart Bacon: each one is that they're collecting from.
715 00:51:35.670 --> 00:51:36.830 Andrew Clegg: I haven't investigated.
716 00:51:36.830 --> 00:51:37.380 Parish Clerk: We do that.
717 00:51:37.380 --> 00:51:40.090 Andrew Clegg: Just been told that by by.
718 00:51:40.090 --> 00:51:42.399 Parish Clerk: Haven't been charging them at all, Stuart.
719 00:51:43.780 --> 00:51:45.070 Parish Clerk: but it's the trouble.
720 00:51:45.070 --> 00:51:48.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Somerset Guy, aren't they already exported to you, Andrew?
721 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:53.460 Andrew Clegg: I don't know. I've got to look at all. I've got to look into all these and find out.
722 00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:55.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because it's new to you again.
723 00:51:55.100 --> 00:51:56.810 Andrew Clegg: It's new to me. Yeah.
724 00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I look at South Somerset.
725 00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:04.629 Andrew Clegg: I do think dog poobins are.
726 00:52:06.860 --> 00:52:09.690 Andrew Clegg: I think they're village, aren't they? Rather than
727 00:52:10.350 --> 00:52:11.450 Andrew Clegg: local authority?
728 00:52:11.450 --> 00:52:16.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, there's a whole bunch came out on from the Council from Somerset Council, and I'm just looking.
729 00:52:16.210 --> 00:52:20.919 Parish Clerk: And mend it. Mend it. Dog bins are there, but not Ssdc. But look at it.
730 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:22.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. Yes. Yes.
731 00:52:22.100 --> 00:52:23.799 Andrew Clegg: Think that's what I noticed last.
732 00:52:24.990 --> 00:52:28.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And Ssdc. Hasn't exported them, though you're quite right.
733 00:52:28.610 --> 00:52:29.380 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
734 00:52:31.670 --> 00:52:32.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hey? Well.
735 00:52:32.640 --> 00:52:35.070 Parish Clerk: Maybe they identify as something else.
736 00:52:35.070 --> 00:52:41.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I was looking yes, under bins, waste and bins, dog and dog bins, and so forth.
737 00:52:41.340 --> 00:52:42.600 Andrew Clegg: Salt and.
738 00:52:42.780 --> 00:52:44.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, exactly.
739 00:52:44.610 --> 00:52:47.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but I don't see anything that refers to
740 00:52:48.268 --> 00:52:50.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: perhaps they call them canine.
741 00:52:52.900 --> 00:52:56.249 Stuart Bacon: Is that spelt CAN, or k.
742 00:52:58.740 --> 00:53:01.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It depends. If you're a doctor who fan, doesn't it
743 00:53:02.990 --> 00:53:04.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: see? Had a K hyphen, N.
744 00:53:05.690 --> 00:53:07.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: K. Hyphen 9, I mean.
745 00:53:08.600 --> 00:53:13.470 Parish Clerk: Can tell you where the great crested New Risk zones are, though. Can't tell you where your dog bins are.
746 00:53:13.470 --> 00:53:14.320 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah.
747 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, it's a matter of priorities, isn't it?
748 00:53:16.200 --> 00:53:20.808 Andrew Clegg: Is it? Is it? Is it a risk zone for a great Christian Newt? I didn't realize.
749 00:53:21.890 --> 00:53:24.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, if there's a dog poo bin next to it, there is.
750 00:53:25.415 --> 00:53:26.240 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
751 00:53:27.190 --> 00:53:27.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
752 00:53:29.350 --> 00:53:35.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: gentlemen ladies, if there are no more questions that I'm in danger of shutting down this meeting today.
753 00:53:35.390 --> 00:53:38.160 Sheila Churchward: Okay, that's fine. Thank you for your help.
754 00:53:38.640 --> 00:53:40.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Don't want to cut anyone off in their prime.
755 00:53:41.780 --> 00:53:46.539 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: I am just 2 seconds. Can I just share my screen again and show you what I did, and that
756 00:53:46.570 --> 00:53:47.770 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: what it says.
757 00:53:47.770 --> 00:53:48.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, of course.
758 00:53:48.530 --> 00:53:49.420 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Thank you.
759 00:53:53.350 --> 00:53:56.320 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Ipswich County Council. No results.
760 00:53:56.340 --> 00:53:58.839 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: I put in there in the search
761 00:53:59.020 --> 00:54:09.010 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: parish online. This all came up. So I'll put in Ipswich. I'll put council put Ipswich County Council, and it's all no results. Have I written it in wrong?
762 00:54:09.010 --> 00:54:12.494 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, that looks good. What happens if you
763 00:54:13.870 --> 00:54:18.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: put it in the layer above where it says, search data.gov.uk.
764 00:54:18.720 --> 00:54:19.360 Sheila Churchward: Yeah.
765 00:54:30.250 --> 00:54:31.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you got allotments. You've got
766 00:54:32.060 --> 00:54:36.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: shops. You've got electors on the right hand side. You've got 5,000 results.
767 00:54:36.040 --> 00:54:36.630 Sheila Churchward: Bye.
768 00:54:36.630 --> 00:54:37.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So.
769 00:54:37.700 --> 00:54:38.200 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yes.
770 00:54:38.200 --> 00:54:40.816 Sheila Churchward: 1,165.
771 00:54:41.190 --> 00:54:45.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Question becomes, I would search on topic if I were you. All right.
772 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:46.190 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: No doubt.
773 00:54:46.340 --> 00:54:47.110 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yep.
774 00:54:48.300 --> 00:54:50.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So which one are you mit? Suffolk?
775 00:54:51.710 --> 00:54:53.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: New York had a coastal right.
776 00:54:53.750 --> 00:54:54.500 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Ouch!
777 00:54:56.830 --> 00:54:58.320 Stuart Bacon: Apply filters in the bottom left.
778 00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Yeah. The green box down the bottom. There.
779 00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:02.350 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yes.
780 00:55:02.350 --> 00:55:03.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: On that. Yeah.
781 00:55:04.080 --> 00:55:05.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: there you go.
782 00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:06.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You are paying.
783 00:55:06.990 --> 00:55:08.219 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Look at that! Woo.
784 00:55:08.220 --> 00:55:09.390 Andrew Clegg: Pet shops.
785 00:55:09.390 --> 00:55:12.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Penalty charge notices. We've got all the really important stuff.
786 00:55:13.180 --> 00:55:15.580 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, we got no pet shops in Martok.
787 00:55:18.950 --> 00:55:20.720 Sheila Churchward: That's good, isn't it?
788 00:55:21.300 --> 00:55:23.149 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: I won't trouble you anymore.
789 00:55:23.900 --> 00:55:27.117 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, all you need to do, I think
790 00:55:27.530 --> 00:55:34.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sheila now is to take any one of those addresses the one that's closest to what you're looking for, probably planning applications, I would think
791 00:55:35.080 --> 00:55:40.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and say to Simon, Look, here's this address, and they're already publishing information there.
792 00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:45.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Can we do the rest. And are you in the Suffolk coastal coastal district?
793 00:55:46.293 --> 00:55:50.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Interesting way of spelling it? Somebody with interesting spelling in Suffolk.
794 00:55:51.160 --> 00:55:51.870 Sheila Churchward: I think so.
795 00:55:52.110 --> 00:55:53.450 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: That's absolutely brilliant.
796 00:55:53.670 --> 00:55:56.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But are you in the Suffolk Coastal District Council area.
797 00:55:56.660 --> 00:55:57.720 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yes, I have.
798 00:55:57.720 --> 00:56:04.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. So I would just click on any one of those underlined answers on the right. Say that one.
799 00:56:05.130 --> 00:56:13.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And when the URL comes up on the top. See where it's it's got data.gov.uk, just click on that and save it and put it in an email to Simon.
800 00:56:14.020 --> 00:56:21.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In fact, you could do that now if you wanted to whilst we're here. So just go ahead and yeah, cut it. Go copy it.
801 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Now open up an email.
802 00:56:25.150 --> 00:56:27.030 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: It's just. Shall I stop sharing.
803 00:56:27.220 --> 00:56:29.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No? Well, you can, if you like. Yeah.
804 00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you now open an email to support at
805 00:56:34.410 --> 00:56:36.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: geosphere.com.
806 00:56:37.490 --> 00:56:40.109 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Oh dear! Oh! Oh! Here we are!
807 00:56:43.270 --> 00:56:44.660 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Compose
808 00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:47.920 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: to
809 00:56:48.080 --> 00:56:48.840 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: support.
810 00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:50.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Support
811 00:56:51.540 --> 00:56:55.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: support at geosphere, which is GEOX,
812 00:56:55.700 --> 00:56:57.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: PHER e.
813 00:56:57.750 --> 00:56:58.960 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Support.
814 00:57:00.890 --> 00:57:05.560 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Oh, dyslexia kicking in there, support at.
815 00:57:05.560 --> 00:57:06.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup
816 00:57:06.670 --> 00:57:11.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: geosphere, GEOS, XPHE RE.
817 00:57:11.170 --> 00:57:12.479 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: A RA.
818 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:13.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Dot com.
819 00:57:13.930 --> 00:57:14.650 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Thought.
820 00:57:14.860 --> 00:57:15.810 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: calm.
821 00:57:16.380 --> 00:57:21.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And in the subject I put Fao for attention of Simon Miles.
822 00:57:22.350 --> 00:57:24.670 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: FAO.
823 00:57:25.050 --> 00:57:28.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Simon Miles, MILE. S.
824 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:37.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then just say, dear Simon, and then paste in that address that you've just saved.
825 00:57:38.140 --> 00:57:39.939 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: So. Do you want me to do that now? Because I'm.
826 00:57:39.940 --> 00:57:40.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
827 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.770 Andrew Clegg: I think you should postpone it till Monday, because they'll know it's us.
828 00:57:47.300 --> 00:57:48.330 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yes, Simon.
829 00:57:49.070 --> 00:57:50.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then do a paste
830 00:57:51.020 --> 00:57:52.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: for that address.
831 00:57:58.950 --> 00:57:59.610 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Oh!
832 00:58:00.410 --> 00:58:01.340 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: And then.
833 00:58:01.340 --> 00:58:04.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just say, Simon, this is
834 00:58:04.770 --> 00:58:09.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: an export of public data from Suffolk Coastal District Council.
835 00:58:10.370 --> 00:58:14.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: please could you ask them for the following layers, and then tell him what you want.
836 00:58:15.510 --> 00:58:18.049 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: This is export of Suffolk.
837 00:58:20.120 --> 00:58:24.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Coastal District Council, or from Suffolk Coastal District Council.
838 00:58:26.430 --> 00:58:26.940 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Yes.
839 00:58:26.940 --> 00:58:32.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Could we have the following layers imported into parish online, and he'll go ahead and do it.
840 00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:34.859 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: I have to rewrite this in it.
841 00:58:35.620 --> 00:58:37.710 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: This is export from Suffolk coastal.
842 00:58:39.120 --> 00:58:40.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: District council.
843 00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:48.679 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: TIST RICT COUN CIL
844 00:58:49.180 --> 00:58:51.440 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: please.
845 00:58:51.700 --> 00:58:54.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Would you get us
846 00:58:54.160 --> 00:58:55.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the following layers
847 00:58:56.900 --> 00:59:00.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: into parish online, and then just tell him which layers you want.
848 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:04.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and let me say good afternoon to Roger.
849 00:59:05.970 --> 00:59:07.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you're on mute, Roger.
850 00:59:10.080 --> 00:59:11.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sit on mute.
851 00:59:12.410 --> 00:59:13.030 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Right.
852 00:59:13.030 --> 00:59:15.479 Roger Simonite: No, I sorry I was doing something else then.
853 00:59:18.690 --> 00:59:25.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So a moment ago, we announced, we're about to close the meeting, Roger, but if you'd like to delay that because you have a question or.
854 00:59:25.520 --> 00:59:30.320 Roger Simonite: Yes, yes, I do. The reason I was delayed was one.
855 00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:46.589 Roger Simonite: I couldn't find a link, but then I seem to have stumbled on it because I I went into your old email and and then it says to register. But then something then came up. Can you just explain, 1st of all.
856 00:59:46.750 --> 00:59:52.029 Roger Simonite: How do I join each time? Where should I go to to find the link.
857 00:59:52.300 --> 00:59:56.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Once you've registered. Once the system sends you a link
858 00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:02.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: alright, and you can use that over and over again. Just save that link when I send it to you.
859 01:00:02.510 --> 01:00:13.539 Roger Simonite: I mean, I I've sort of stumbled my way in. And so and then the the other problem I had is prior to joining the meeting. I wanted to open parish online.
860 01:00:13.750 --> 01:00:18.430 Roger Simonite: so I could ask a question, and everything froze.
861 01:00:18.430 --> 01:00:28.362 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, there is. There's a a new arrangement at geosphere that says it's parish online's banter session. In the afternoon. We'll mix everything up by
862 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:30.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: stopping the system.
863 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:48.119 Roger Simonite: Well, I couldn't actually shut my computer down. I had to go to forcing forcing a closure. So it it's taken me probably 20 min to to get to where I am now. So if if you are happy for me to ask a question.
864 01:00:48.490 --> 01:00:53.870 Roger Simonite: then how do I? I've got to share. If I can share my screen.
865 01:00:54.030 --> 01:00:54.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Cool.
866 01:00:56.910 --> 01:00:59.360 Roger Simonite: Allow, share.
867 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:06.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And Princeton. I'm going to give you a 25 second in advance apology for being late on your course.
868 01:01:06.700 --> 01:01:07.480 prinson Thomas: It's fine. That's fine!
869 01:01:08.630 --> 01:01:09.369 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I love that.
870 01:01:09.370 --> 01:01:11.909 prinson Thomas: Everyone. Then I can make advance of myself here.
871 01:01:12.453 --> 01:01:13.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's fine!
872 01:01:13.200 --> 01:01:15.909 Roger Simonite: So can you now see.
873 01:01:15.910 --> 01:01:16.959 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Up with it!
874 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.260 Roger Simonite: Parish, online. Yeah.
875 01:01:18.260 --> 01:01:19.000 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
876 01:01:19.250 --> 01:01:20.670 Roger Simonite: Okay. So
877 01:01:20.860 --> 01:01:39.000 Roger Simonite: we've we've been doing some work with. I'm battling with the the Department for Transport at the moment, in the sense of what I'm trying to do is to get some more hedgehog warning signs. So
878 01:01:39.220 --> 01:01:46.840 Roger Simonite: we've I created this separate one in terms of 4 hedgehogs, and then
879 01:01:47.150 --> 01:01:51.580 Roger Simonite: I've I've also got the biodiversity one. Where is that?
880 01:01:51.580 --> 01:01:52.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
881 01:01:53.160 --> 01:01:54.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's called hedgehogs, isn't it?
882 01:01:54.980 --> 01:01:57.709 Roger Simonite: Yes. Is it a little bit further down, or.
883 01:01:59.580 --> 01:02:08.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go up to the top line and click on the magnifying. Oh, there you go! Just go and click on the magnifying glass in the top and type.
884 01:02:08.100 --> 01:02:08.860 Roger Simonite: Yeah.
885 01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:09.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Type in hedgehog.
886 01:02:09.780 --> 01:02:10.680 Sheila Churchward: Hedgehog.
887 01:02:12.010 --> 01:02:13.529 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it'll find it for you.
888 01:02:14.630 --> 01:02:15.340 Roger Simonite: There you go!
889 01:02:15.340 --> 01:02:18.299 Graham Stoddart-Stones: On the biodiversity in nature. Yeah, that's right.
890 01:02:18.300 --> 01:02:18.950 Roger Simonite: Right.
891 01:02:19.190 --> 01:02:19.980 Roger Simonite: So
892 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:30.140 Roger Simonite: we've we've got the the locations effectively now where we've we've seen fatalities, etc.
893 01:02:30.230 --> 01:02:46.040 Roger Simonite: But what I wanted to do is I've I've sent this to the Department for transport. What I wanted to do is to now put on there, not only where the signs are that have been approved, but proposed signs. So what I wanted to do was create a triangle
894 01:02:46.060 --> 01:03:06.780 Roger Simonite: with an amber as opposed to a red and and a sort of legend that says these are proposed sites as opposed to these are agreed sites. Yeah, I did in terms of going here and creating a layer. But what I can't seem to do at the moment is go back to this this layer and effectively
895 01:03:06.850 --> 01:03:13.599 Roger Simonite: add in another field, such that I could make it a second one. Can you help me with that.
896 01:03:13.600 --> 01:03:18.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Sure. So if you do, you know the name of the layer that creates the red triangles.
897 01:03:18.750 --> 01:03:22.590 Roger Simonite: Yes, it's this, it's not that one. It's within
898 01:03:22.990 --> 01:03:27.190 Roger Simonite: the parish, that one. So I've created that layer.
899 01:03:27.190 --> 01:03:31.473 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So go now up to the cogwheel on the top right corner.
900 01:03:31.910 --> 01:03:34.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: way, top right other right.
901 01:03:34.350 --> 01:03:35.270 Roger Simonite: Not one at one.
902 01:03:35.270 --> 01:03:45.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go into administration. Yeah, and let the layers flow in which they will in a second go down to your hedgehog warning signs and click on it once.
903 01:03:45.890 --> 01:03:46.970 Roger Simonite: Right. Hang on, then.
904 01:03:46.970 --> 01:03:47.939 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All from one.
905 01:03:48.398 --> 01:03:53.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, click on it once, just to select. Go up to the pencil up the top.
906 01:03:53.850 --> 01:03:54.840 Roger Simonite: Yep, see.
907 01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:56.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is. Yeah.
908 01:03:56.570 --> 01:03:58.370 Roger Simonite: Right so now.
909 01:03:58.630 --> 01:03:59.972 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Add a new
910 01:04:01.130 --> 01:04:04.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: column with the plus sign on the top right top, right top right.
911 01:04:04.500 --> 01:04:05.620 Roger Simonite: That one. Yeah.
912 01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:06.970 Roger Simonite: okay? And.
913 01:04:06.970 --> 01:04:09.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Call it something like status, or would I.
914 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:11.490 Roger Simonite: One's.
915 01:04:11.490 --> 01:04:13.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the others are alive, isn't it?
916 01:04:13.630 --> 01:04:15.280 Roger Simonite: Proposed
917 01:04:15.690 --> 01:04:17.090 Roger Simonite: new sites.
918 01:04:17.090 --> 01:04:20.599 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, no, no, that's not what you want. It's
919 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:28.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The ones that exist at the moment are either actually in place or not, or proposed right? So.
920 01:04:28.240 --> 01:04:29.539 Roger Simonite: There is the ones.
921 01:04:29.540 --> 01:04:33.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So call the field status. Just call it status.
922 01:04:33.330 --> 01:04:34.180 Roger Simonite: Yeah.
923 01:04:34.810 --> 01:04:37.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go to the add plus further along the line.
924 01:04:37.730 --> 01:04:38.430 Roger Simonite: That one.
925 01:04:38.430 --> 01:04:39.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep
926 01:04:40.070 --> 01:04:45.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and put in. One of the 1st value is in in existence, or already exists, or something like that.
927 01:04:47.180 --> 01:04:50.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then the second, add click on the add to the right.
928 01:04:50.610 --> 01:04:52.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, and put in, proposed.
929 01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:57.090 Roger Simonite: Okay, right. Now, confirm.
930 01:04:57.430 --> 01:04:59.990 Andrew Clegg: Could put a 3rd in if you want squashed.
931 01:05:00.430 --> 01:05:00.970 Andrew Clegg: No, no.
932 01:05:00.970 --> 01:05:01.700 Roger Simonite: So we've.
933 01:05:01.700 --> 01:05:04.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We're talking about the signs now, Andrew.
934 01:05:04.730 --> 01:05:07.049 Roger Simonite: That's that's the deceased ones.
935 01:05:07.050 --> 01:05:10.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you, if you save bottom right.
936 01:05:17.060 --> 01:05:17.920 Roger Simonite: Okay.
937 01:05:18.130 --> 01:05:22.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now go back to your global maps with the global icon in the middle of the top. Right.
938 01:05:22.940 --> 01:05:23.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Tom.
939 01:05:23.500 --> 01:05:26.099 Roger Simonite: That one. Yeah, the right? Yeah, that one.
940 01:05:26.100 --> 01:05:26.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's right, Yup.
941 01:05:30.370 --> 01:05:35.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you need to reopen your parish lair for hedgehogs. Yeah, right? Yeah.
942 01:05:36.300 --> 01:05:37.530 Roger Simonite: Questionnaire
943 01:05:39.020 --> 01:05:41.749 Roger Simonite: hedgehog signs. Okay?
944 01:05:41.750 --> 01:05:42.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now.
945 01:05:42.910 --> 01:05:44.389 Roger Simonite: Now I can go into.
946 01:05:44.390 --> 01:05:45.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly
947 01:05:45.340 --> 01:05:51.939 Graham Stoddart-Stones: go into the existing ones first, st the 3 red ones you've got already. Click on each one in turn.
948 01:05:52.120 --> 01:05:52.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
949 01:05:53.490 --> 01:05:57.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so you might need to zoom in a bit so you can sort them out
950 01:05:57.970 --> 01:06:06.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and just change the do a pencil and change the status on that one to existing. Isn't it? Just click on the status box down below? Go down.
951 01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:08.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. Yeah.
952 01:06:09.080 --> 01:06:09.880 Roger Simonite: Okay.
953 01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:12.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now that exists. So you just need that one.
954 01:06:12.770 --> 01:06:14.709 Roger Simonite: Can I get that legend to come up.
955 01:06:14.710 --> 01:06:20.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just click on, save don't forget. Click on, save. Nope.
956 01:06:20.680 --> 01:06:22.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: yeah, do the same for the other 2.
957 01:06:23.420 --> 01:06:30.540 Roger Simonite: Okay, I tell you what, you having these sort of sessions, you accelerate the learning. So.
958 01:06:32.890 --> 01:06:34.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Putting myself out of business.
959 01:06:36.630 --> 01:06:41.199 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that one yeah, that hasn't exist as well. Yeah, yeah.
960 01:06:41.770 --> 01:06:43.290 Roger Simonite: Okay, save.
961 01:06:43.290 --> 01:06:47.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you need to zoom in a bit so you can separate out the 3rd one.
962 01:06:47.340 --> 01:06:47.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
963 01:06:49.450 --> 01:06:50.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: there you go.
964 01:06:51.430 --> 01:06:54.109 Parish Clerk: Have we got an icon for hedgehogs?
965 01:06:54.110 --> 01:06:55.270 Roger Simonite: Yeah, yes, you are.
966 01:06:55.270 --> 01:06:57.169 Parish Clerk: Oh, very good.
967 01:06:57.170 --> 01:07:06.520 Roger Simonite: You've got one an icon for hedgehogs that are effectively a sighting, and you've then got an icon for deceased.
968 01:07:07.010 --> 01:07:07.620 Roger Simonite: So.
969 01:07:09.020 --> 01:07:10.240 Andrew Clegg: It works.
970 01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:11.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
971 01:07:11.040 --> 01:07:12.269 Roger Simonite: When you're trying to argue with.
972 01:07:12.270 --> 01:07:15.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: One's round and fat, and the other's flattened.
973 01:07:17.250 --> 01:07:18.149 Andrew Clegg: Oh dear!
974 01:07:18.150 --> 01:07:22.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you, if you now shut down the left hand column, that's right.
975 01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:26.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: go into your lair for the hedgehogs. Yeah, go down, go down
976 01:07:27.660 --> 01:07:29.459 Graham Stoddart-Stones: right click on that.
977 01:07:29.640 --> 01:07:32.129 Roger Simonite: No, I've got to go on the biodiversity. One.
978 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:39.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No hang on a second. We're doing one thing at a time. So if you click on the hedgehog warning sign, yeah, go into style.
979 01:07:39.610 --> 01:07:40.240 Roger Simonite: Yep.
980 01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:42.089 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know. I just.
981 01:07:42.090 --> 01:07:44.389 Roger Simonite: Want a triangle but amber. Now.
982 01:07:44.390 --> 01:07:50.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, so change the color and the red on the 3rd column along. That's right. Change that to amber.
983 01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:54.722 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, that's gold. But never mind,
984 01:07:55.030 --> 01:07:57.170 Roger Simonite: Wow, Ok.
985 01:07:57.170 --> 01:07:57.480 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So.
986 01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:58.230 Roger Simonite: That color.
987 01:07:58.230 --> 01:07:58.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Save that.
988 01:07:58.780 --> 01:08:00.579 Parish Clerk: Not in Andrew's world.
989 01:08:01.540 --> 01:08:02.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But Lewis.
990 01:08:02.340 --> 01:08:04.156 Andrew Clegg: Blueish bluish it is.
991 01:08:06.390 --> 01:08:10.669 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, do you know where there's 1 that you want to propose.
992 01:08:10.670 --> 01:08:20.890 Roger Simonite: Yes, but but I want those to stay red. That's that's the point. They're they're fixed. They're already agreed. So I want to put one over here that isn't.
993 01:08:20.899 --> 01:08:27.012 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. So click on the tick, sign there and go to add a feature.
994 01:08:27.899 --> 01:08:30.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go ahead and put it on your new place.
995 01:08:32.689 --> 01:08:33.420 Roger Simonite: Yeah.
996 01:08:35.050 --> 01:08:41.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, you're not in the right layer at the moment. Click on the left hand side. Close that column down on the left, the X,
997 01:08:43.170 --> 01:08:45.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: right? You need to go back down to your layer
998 01:08:48.170 --> 01:08:50.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and add feature.
999 01:08:50.620 --> 01:08:51.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
1000 01:08:51.630 --> 01:08:52.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now.
1001 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.839 Roger Simonite: Now I've got to add status here as proposed.
1002 01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:59.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Correct. I would give it a name if I were you.
1003 01:09:00.613 --> 01:09:06.889 Roger Simonite: I might do that in slow time. Oh, oh! So the name! You can add that on as to well.
1004 01:09:06.899 --> 01:09:10.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just you probably identify by the street name, don't you.
1005 01:09:10.130 --> 01:09:12.040 Roger Simonite: Western Avenue. Yeah, yeah.
1006 01:09:14.020 --> 01:09:21.340 Roger Simonite: Okay, right? And then, if I put it there, that's where I want the the sign to go, and then just save.
1007 01:09:21.340 --> 01:09:23.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Save it, and it'll show up.
1008 01:09:23.149 --> 01:09:26.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You need to change the colour so.
1009 01:09:26.270 --> 01:09:26.880 Roger Simonite: Well, I want to.
1010 01:09:26.910 --> 01:09:31.459 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hang on a minute. We'll we'll we'll close the left hand column down. Yeah.
1011 01:09:32.240 --> 01:09:36.019 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and go back into your layer again and change style.
1012 01:09:36.540 --> 01:09:37.790 Roger Simonite: Right so go.
1013 01:09:37.790 --> 01:09:43.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because you've now got an ex. You've now got a proposed edit, so go in there, go into style
1014 01:09:43.390 --> 01:09:48.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and change the color, for Oops hasn't arrived yet. Oh, no, sorry you want to.
1015 01:09:48.859 --> 01:09:50.509 Roger Simonite: Wanted a second one. You see.
1016 01:09:50.510 --> 01:09:53.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So we want to class. Sorry. Change the left hand side.
1017 01:09:54.550 --> 01:09:55.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Style.
1018 01:09:55.330 --> 01:09:55.850 Andrew Clegg: Class.
1019 01:09:56.410 --> 01:09:56.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Spaced.
1020 01:09:57.670 --> 01:09:58.279 Roger Simonite: Do? What? Sorry.
1021 01:09:58.280 --> 01:10:00.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go see where it says, single
1022 01:10:00.290 --> 01:10:03.769 Graham Stoddart-Stones: yeah, top, click on that arrow and choose class based.
1023 01:10:04.320 --> 01:10:05.000 Roger Simonite: Right.
1024 01:10:05.410 --> 01:10:09.999 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you wanted the label you said to be the existing or proposed, didn't you?
1025 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:11.020 Roger Simonite: Yes.
1026 01:10:11.020 --> 01:10:14.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Change the label column on the 3rd one down on the left hand side.
1027 01:10:14.910 --> 01:10:16.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: click on the little arrow.
1028 01:10:16.950 --> 01:10:17.730 Roger Simonite: That.
1029 01:10:17.730 --> 01:10:19.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, and make it status.
1030 01:10:21.510 --> 01:10:22.450 Roger Simonite: Okay.
1031 01:10:22.650 --> 01:10:25.481 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then if you
1032 01:10:27.860 --> 01:10:31.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: if you scroll down on the Slider on the right hand side.
1033 01:10:32.170 --> 01:10:32.650 Roger Simonite: Yeah.
1034 01:10:32.650 --> 01:10:37.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. You need to. Okay, we need to save that 1 first.st So let's do a save.
1035 01:10:38.020 --> 01:10:38.640 Roger Simonite: Yeah.
1036 01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:42.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And let's.
1037 01:10:42.060 --> 01:10:44.389 Roger Simonite: And then add, I need to add another one.
1038 01:10:44.630 --> 01:10:49.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, no, it should. I'm a bit surprised. It has. It's not giving you the option of the.
1039 01:10:49.010 --> 01:10:53.149 Roger Simonite: Oh, I see. So we have. That's good existing, proposed.
1040 01:10:53.150 --> 01:10:53.440 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
1041 01:10:53.440 --> 01:10:57.869 Roger Simonite: But what I just want these to be read now, and though that to be amber.
1042 01:10:58.070 --> 01:11:00.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. So go back into style again.
1043 01:11:07.710 --> 01:11:09.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you need to scroll down.
1044 01:11:10.030 --> 01:11:12.639 Stuart Bacon: No stay at the top, stay at the top.
1045 01:11:13.290 --> 01:11:16.460 Stuart Bacon: change the class column from small wildlife
1046 01:11:16.810 --> 01:11:17.750 Stuart Bacon: like this.
1047 01:11:20.020 --> 01:11:23.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yes, that could be the status. Correct. Yeah.
1048 01:11:23.990 --> 01:11:25.640 Roger Simonite: Okay and save.
1049 01:11:26.270 --> 01:11:30.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup. Well, no, you should be able to go scrolling down with that Slider on the right.
1050 01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:33.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and there you go, and you
1051 01:11:34.120 --> 01:11:36.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: East red whoops. You slipped.
1052 01:11:36.630 --> 01:11:41.370 Roger Simonite: Yes, hang on. Let me get that back, then. So go there style
1053 01:11:43.490 --> 01:11:49.958 Roger Simonite: and then down. And now, okay, now I can change them to the appropriate color.
1054 01:11:50.390 --> 01:11:52.000 Stuart Bacon: Into shape as well, and.
1055 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:53.680 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. The shape's wrong.
1056 01:11:54.020 --> 01:11:55.603 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, you want to choose an icon.
1057 01:11:56.100 --> 01:12:02.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So see where it says shapes change that to icon graphical icon, yeah.
1058 01:12:02.690 --> 01:12:05.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then go in number 3 dots.
1059 01:12:05.090 --> 01:12:07.240 Parish Clerk: I got to find it.
1060 01:12:07.470 --> 01:12:08.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Type, hedgehog.
1061 01:12:09.890 --> 01:12:12.040 Roger Simonite: Where do I? Oh, up there? Yeah.
1062 01:12:17.367 --> 01:12:18.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It doesn't exist.
1063 01:12:18.170 --> 01:12:20.220 Parish Clerk: There's no use.
1064 01:12:20.220 --> 01:12:23.906 Roger Simonite: No, but I'm I'm happy with that triangle. To be quite honest, because.
1065 01:12:24.190 --> 01:12:24.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right.
1066 01:12:24.810 --> 01:12:29.160 Roger Simonite: That is the shape. So so if I cancel and then go.
1067 01:12:29.160 --> 01:12:30.850 Parish Clerk: But it's Friday afternoon.
1068 01:12:31.530 --> 01:12:33.749 Parish Clerk: That's all right. Okay, I think.
1069 01:12:33.750 --> 01:12:37.920 Stuart Bacon: For the proposed one. If you want to change that from circle to triangle.
1070 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:40.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
1071 01:12:40.010 --> 01:12:41.540 Roger Simonite: So council has.
1072 01:12:41.540 --> 01:12:44.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, there's a nice differentiator to have them different.
1073 01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:45.409 Roger Simonite: I know, but.
1074 01:12:45.410 --> 01:12:46.329 Parish Clerk: I do want them.
1075 01:12:46.330 --> 01:12:49.169 Roger Simonite: In fairness. I do want them triangle for the time being.
1076 01:12:49.170 --> 01:12:49.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. All right.
1077 01:12:49.820 --> 01:12:53.059 Roger Simonite: So then I want that as the gold.
1078 01:12:54.780 --> 01:12:56.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then we're then we're good.
1079 01:12:56.330 --> 01:12:59.120 Roger Simonite: At the moment, and the outline. I'll have black.
1080 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:01.750 Roger Simonite: That's good.
1081 01:13:01.950 --> 01:13:03.339 Roger Simonite: and that's black.
1082 01:13:03.630 --> 01:13:04.220 prinson Thomas: And the site.
1083 01:13:04.220 --> 01:13:05.690 Roger Simonite: We're not using it. Mode. Okay?
1084 01:13:05.690 --> 01:13:06.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go!
1085 01:13:07.290 --> 01:13:09.100 Roger Simonite: Brilliant. Okay. Well.
1086 01:13:09.100 --> 01:13:09.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh!
1087 01:13:09.420 --> 01:13:11.160 Stuart Bacon: That again. Sorry.
1088 01:13:11.690 --> 01:13:14.175 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You have a few sizes wrong.
1089 01:13:14.590 --> 01:13:16.059 Roger Simonite: Okay, you got your size.
1090 01:13:16.060 --> 01:13:16.390 prinson Thomas: Yeah.
1091 01:13:16.390 --> 01:13:16.970 Andrew Clegg: Little.
1092 01:13:16.970 --> 01:13:17.300 prinson Thomas: I really.
1093 01:13:17.300 --> 01:13:18.370 Andrew Clegg: And big head jokes.
1094 01:13:21.730 --> 01:13:23.329 Roger Simonite: Right. So I go to 30.
1095 01:13:23.330 --> 01:13:24.379 prinson Thomas: One side there, right.
1096 01:13:24.380 --> 01:13:26.649 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, absolutely. You've got it.
1097 01:13:27.180 --> 01:13:28.650 Parish Clerk: Sure, good, short.
1098 01:13:28.780 --> 01:13:30.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Problem. Solved.
1099 01:13:30.290 --> 01:13:38.120 Roger Simonite: Okay. You've you've saved me an awful lot of whether I'll remember that. But I suppose if you keep.
1100 01:13:38.120 --> 01:13:46.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: The whole point of us recording this and putting the recording up on the wiki is so that you can go back and look it up to see what you we actually talked to you about. Yeah.
1101 01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:47.710 Roger Simonite: Okay. Okay. Well.
1102 01:13:47.740 --> 01:13:48.450 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Absolutely.
1103 01:13:48.450 --> 01:13:54.449 Roger Simonite: As it's a Friday. That's that's all I wanted to ask on this meeting. So thank you very much for your time.
1104 01:13:55.280 --> 01:14:00.060 Andrew Clegg: That those those that that proposed one is right outside Curry's.
1105 01:14:00.110 --> 01:14:01.152 Andrew Clegg: Yes, it is.
1106 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:03.980 Roger Simonite: Look at.
1107 01:14:04.100 --> 01:14:13.050 Roger Simonite: If you look at where the actual fatalities have occurred, we've had I try trying to find that biodiversity one
1108 01:14:13.850 --> 01:14:15.580 Roger Simonite: I have to.
1109 01:14:19.750 --> 01:14:20.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go!
1110 01:14:21.530 --> 01:14:24.080 Roger Simonite: So if you, if you look
1111 01:14:26.230 --> 01:14:27.530 Roger Simonite: when they come in up.
1112 01:14:34.450 --> 01:14:36.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It must be Friday afternoon again. That's just.
1113 01:14:36.440 --> 01:14:36.990 Roger Simonite: Yeah.
1114 01:14:36.990 --> 01:14:38.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've been bludgeoned by.
1115 01:14:40.860 --> 01:14:41.540 Andrew Clegg: Well.
1116 01:14:41.540 --> 01:14:58.780 Roger Simonite: It. They do normally come up. But we've had 2 deaths there and then. We've had 4 deaths that No. 3 deaths there, and we've had 5 deaths there, so my wife is we rehome hedgehogs within the green space right.
1117 01:14:58.780 --> 01:14:59.170 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
1118 01:14:59.170 --> 01:15:07.110 Roger Simonite: Unfortunately, we've rehomed 40 of them over the time. In fact, we've got 2 here today that we're going to put somewhere up here.
1119 01:15:07.300 --> 01:15:15.250 Roger Simonite: but they like you. Give them all this green area, and they still want to cross the road. So it's it's quite frustrating.
1120 01:15:15.250 --> 01:15:16.070 Andrew Clegg: Really.
1121 01:15:16.330 --> 01:15:22.960 Andrew Clegg: that's an awful lot of hedgehogs for a sort of urban area, isn't it? Or are they urban creatures now? Well.
1122 01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.510 Roger Simonite: They've got a better chances of
1123 01:15:25.580 --> 01:15:30.719 Roger Simonite: better chance of survival really, in and around where we are. Yeah.
1124 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:31.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Boxes. Yeah.
1125 01:15:31.780 --> 01:15:38.730 Roger Simonite: Than necessarily in the country where you know the very narrow lanes, and they just get squashed anyway. So.
1126 01:15:38.730 --> 01:15:41.869 Andrew Clegg: Yeah. Do you rehome them to the crematorium?
1127 01:15:42.580 --> 01:15:49.429 Roger Simonite: No, no, no, we're we're we're just trying to give them a a chance in life. Really.
1128 01:15:49.750 --> 01:15:50.520 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
1129 01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:54.832 Stuart Bacon: I think the reason they've not come up Roger is because you've got hedge
1130 01:15:55.180 --> 01:15:56.880 Stuart Bacon: not hedge h.
1131 01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:58.530 Roger Simonite: Oh, oh.
1132 01:15:58.840 --> 01:15:59.690 Roger Simonite: okay.
1133 01:16:01.080 --> 01:16:03.530 Roger Simonite: very. You're very, very.
1134 01:16:03.530 --> 01:16:04.260 Andrew Clegg: Gosh!
1135 01:16:04.260 --> 01:16:08.169 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go to next one down. Biodiversity in nature. Yeah, yeah.
1136 01:16:08.930 --> 01:16:09.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.
1137 01:16:10.730 --> 01:16:11.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yay!
1138 01:16:11.570 --> 01:16:12.919 Andrew Clegg: Oh, there you go!
1139 01:16:13.150 --> 01:16:31.150 Roger Simonite: So so what we've got here, that's a sighting. There are 2 deaths, and then come out there. There's where we had sightings and deaths. But this is the worst one, and this is the the irony. We wanted to put a sign here.
1140 01:16:31.290 --> 01:16:57.349 Roger Simonite: but because it's a cast iron lamppost, they won't let us, and I don't understand the justification at the moment we're still arguing with them. This is on a on a lamppost. That's that's a steel one which they obviously own, and we think that the the cast iron ones they don't own. So so at the moment they're just saying No, but if they don't own it. Then, arguably, we may be able to do it ourselves. So.
1141 01:16:57.350 --> 01:17:01.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you are talking to the Highways department, aren't you?
1142 01:17:01.340 --> 01:17:02.270 Roger Simonite: Yes, yes.
1143 01:17:02.270 --> 01:17:07.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is the same highways department. This is the world's most cooperative and helpful and friendly.
1144 01:17:07.980 --> 01:17:09.250 Andrew Clegg: Really, really.
1145 01:17:09.250 --> 01:17:09.870 Roger Simonite: You must be.
1146 01:17:10.040 --> 01:17:10.919 Andrew Clegg: To a different.
1147 01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:11.530 Roger Simonite: Listen.
1148 01:17:11.530 --> 01:17:20.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, we were talking to the Somerset Council Gis Department and a newly recruited lady there, your old friend
1149 01:17:20.810 --> 01:17:39.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: we've lost Malcolm. Sorry, but Malcolm's friend was telling us that she found of all the departments in the unitary, the highways department was the most friendly and helpful, and there was a whole snort of derision from France, where John was on holiday, and he said, Well, you must be talking to a different highway department.
1150 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:40.220 Roger Simonite: Yeah.
1151 01:17:40.220 --> 01:17:41.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Rest of us talk to.
1152 01:17:41.890 --> 01:17:53.999 Roger Simonite: Well, I've been trying for 12 months to get to a position where we are now, so we've managed to get 3 signs put up. We wanted to put another 3 up.
1153 01:17:54.340 --> 01:18:06.510 Roger Simonite: Well, another 4, in fact, and she's said, Well, we don't want overuse of them, and not, and I like sort of I can't comprehend overuse in the parish. Those are the only 3 signs that we've got.
1154 01:18:06.580 --> 01:18:08.569 Roger Simonite: It's hardly overuse.
1155 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:20.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I suspect she means she doesn't want to have more than the people will accept without complaining, because they've got several audiences, and you are the ones that want extra signs, and there will be a whole bunch of people that.
1156 01:18:21.470 --> 01:18:23.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and cluster to decluster the village.
1157 01:18:23.730 --> 01:18:28.710 Roger Simonite: Yeah. Well, well, we're not gonna give up. So we we will continue on on.
1158 01:18:28.710 --> 01:18:29.510 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: That's do
1159 01:18:30.440 --> 01:18:31.020 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: not cool.
1160 01:18:31.020 --> 01:18:36.249 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right now. I am going to have to call time, ladies and gentlemen, because I've got an obligation to Princeton.
1161 01:18:36.440 --> 01:18:37.969 Councillor Helen Davey Hazel: Thank you very much.
1162 01:18:37.970 --> 01:18:41.874 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're welcome. Have a great weekend and see you next week. But
1163 01:18:42.390 --> 01:18:47.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you don't like to go, I'm not gonna lock you out, because I need to keep the line open for our next session.
1164 01:18:48.430 --> 01:18:48.890 Roger Simonite: Okay.
1165 01:18:48.890 --> 01:18:50.360 Andrew Clegg: Okay.
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