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# 260828 - 28Aug26 - session26-36

Cemeteries, Asset Manager,  Geolocation, Training Courses, Parish Online as a filing system, Saving time with Parish Online

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Video Timeline:

00:00 - 06:30 Updating Cemeteries - introductory banter

06:30 - 12:05 Updating Cemeteries - adding graves to Parish Online

12:05 - 19:45 Updating Cemeteries - specific to Peasedown St John

19:45 - 21:45 Streetlights banter

21:45 - 25:10 Assets and Maintenance layers

25:1- - 31:00 Geolocation

31:00 - 33:42 Training courses available

33:42 - 35:50 Parish Online as a digital filing system

35:50 - 36:30 Saving Time using Parish Online

36:30 - 40:00 (end) banter

***

#### Presentation:

No presentation per se this week - the video is the presentation

***

#### Meeting Summary:

Aug 28, 2026 01:54 PM LondonID: 897 5877 7706

### Quick recap

Sam and Graham discussed implementing Parish Online for managing cemetery records. Sam explained that their current cemetery records are poorly maintained on Excel spreadsheets and need updating, as the previous clerk failed to complete the required council updates from 2019. Graham demonstrated how Parish Online can automatically import cemetery records once coordinates are added to each grave, showing the system's mapping capabilities and features for adding photographs and attachments. They also discussed extending the system to track other parish assets like streetlights, benches, and defibrillators, with Graham revealing that Parish Online includes pre-built asset register layers and can even import photos taken using a smartphone's GPS location feature. Sam expressed strong interest in the training courses available for £100 annually, which would provide access for multiple staff members to learn how to use the system effectively.

### Next steps

#### Graham

* Proceed with the work to update the cemetery records in Parish Online, including correcting the plot numbering (e.g., changing J to K and adding a new section J).

#### Sam

* Await Council's decision on the budget for the cemetery records project, which may be included in the next precept if not in the current budget.
* Update and maintain the cemetery records in Parish Online once the work is completed by Graham's company.
* Investigate signing up for the Parish Online annual training subscription (£100) for staff, including the maintenance and grounds manager and the projects officer.
* Explore using Parish Online's geolocation feature on a mobile device to add photographs and records for assets like benches, picnic benches, bins, CCTV equipment, and defibrillators.
* Add photographs of memorial stones to the cemetery records in Parish Online once the plots are imported.
* Consider using Parish Online's asset register layers for maintaining records of parish assets.

### Summary

#### Cemetery Records System Update

Sam discussed the need to update their cemetery records system, which currently uses an outdated Excel spreadsheet with 865 records that hasn't been maintained properly. Graham explained how Parish Online could help by allowing automatic updates if records include coordinates, making it easier than manual entry. Sam expressed interest in learning more about the system to prepare for when they can proceed with the implementation after receiving council approval for the work.

#### Gravestone Coordinates Extraction Process

Graham demonstrated how to extract coordinates from gravestones in Parish Online by overlaying aerial photography on a map, showing Sam the process of identifying and storing coordinates for each of the 865 records. Graham explained that once all coordinates are collected, they can be sent to Geoxphere for import into Parish Online, though attachments like photographs may need to be added separately. Sam expressed confidence in learning how to add photographs to records in the system.

#### Grave Records Photo Upload Process

Graham demonstrated how to add photographs to grave records in Parish Online, clarifying that image files can be uploaded directly rather than requiring CSV format. Sam discussed the process of importing cemetery data, noting that they have more entries in their cremated remains section than burial plots and might involve students or external help for data entry tasks. Graham explained the workflow for updating records in batches and confirmed that the same process applies to both burial plots and cremated remains entries.

#### Cemetery Database System Updates

Graham and Sam discussed updates to a cemetery database system, with Sam noting that section J has been renamed to K and expanded. They reviewed the system's purpose of helping relatives research and find information about buried relatives, with Graham emphasizing the importance of adding photos and personal details to create meaningful memorials. Sam mentioned that more up-to-date information from the Bath Records Office is available, and they discussed the challenges of reading old sandstone grave markers. Sam also shared her work mapping 135 streetlights maintained by the Parish Council onto Parish Online, which has helped with maintenance and complaint tracking.

#### Parish Online Asset Management Demo

Sam and Graham discussed the features of Parish Online, particularly focusing on the asset register functionality that Sam was unaware of. Graham demonstrated how the system already contains categories for assets like bins, defibrillators, and CCTV equipment, and showed Sam how to use the geolocation feature on mobile devices to capture and update asset information. Graham recommended Parish Online training courses, offering an annual subscription for £100 that would provide access for multiple staff members, and emphasized how the system could help with insurance claims and demonstrate proper governance.

***

#### Chat:

**00:58:20 Graham Stoddart-Stones:**&#x20;

### Training courses: [https://chagosconsulting.com](https://chagosconsulting.com/)

***

#### Audio-transcript:

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Sam Nash: I'm good, thank you. Thank you for, going over the information on how to do an icon last week. I'm sorry I couldn't attend.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's quite right.

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Sam Nash: But actually, I was available this week, and I'm very interested in the cemetery, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: let me show you what I've got, and then you can tell me what appeals to you, because do you have a cemetery that you're trying to update?

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Sam Nash: Yeah, yes, we do. So I think my, colleague, one of our admin assistants, has been on the, in email con… conversation with you. We have… we have a cemetery, and we have records.

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Sam Nash: But the records that they've put online are on,

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Sam Nash: Excel spreadsheet, and they've not been updated, and they're not… it's really difficult, because they haven't got the skill set to keep updating them, so we need to find a… we need to find an alternative.

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Sam Nash: I want something that kind of stays live, so I think we've, I did ask her to communicate with you, and I think she has. I think we're waiting for Council to give us a decision on whether or not… I think you've given us a quote to do some work.

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Sam Nash: But in the meantime, I just thought that it's… that it would be good to update

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Sam Nash: my skills and understanding in Parish Online, so that, when we've got the work done, we can,

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Sam Nash: Maintain it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Perfect.

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Sam Nash: So I think Debbie is my colleague, and I think she's probably contacted you about,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: gig, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I remember.

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Sam Nash: doing some.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I remember sending the quote.

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Sam Nash: Mmm.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And should I show you what I was thinking of? Yeah! I don't think I knew that you had a spreadsheet that was,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hugely unhelpful.

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Sam Nash: We've got two things. We've got… so, so, the Council requested that the cemetery was updated and made available

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Sam Nash: I think it was back in 2019, or something stupid like that, and the previous clerk just didn't ever seem to do it, and I don't know why. I don't know that person, so I have no comment to make about it.

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Sam Nash: But, Bath Records Office were asking for…

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Sam Nash: the work, and offered to do the work, and the parish office refused to let them do it for some reason. Again, no idea why.

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Sam Nash: So I tasked it as one of the admin assistants, but,

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Sam Nash: I don't think she had the skill set.

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Sam Nash: And so Bath Office got… Bath Records Office got in touch with me, and he has… he has updated the spreadsheet from the book system that they had previously to that.

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Sam Nash: I think they've also lost some of the records, which isn't…

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Sam Nash: Exactly, brilliant. I need to try… I've written to the company that apparently may have had them, but they haven't responded.

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Sam Nash: So, I've gone and photographed all of the memorial stones that we've got, and I've got all the paper records which go up to 1990, so I'm just gonna try and put stuff together from there.

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Sam Nash: Which is why I think Debly probably said to you, oh, we're just, we've just got to make sure we've got all our data in place.

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Sam Nash: It is a bit of a… it is a bit of a…

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Sam Nash: I don't know, I don't know whether this is common or not, because it's the first time I've ever been a clerk to a Parish council, but

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Sam Nash: I would… In my… my expectations are that it's pretty appalling, the state of our records and systems.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I think that's fairly common across the country, I wouldn't worry about that.

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Sam Nash: Who is it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, there are those who are really on the ball.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And then there are those who are everything else, and I think the ones who are really on the ball are quite few and far between.

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Sam Nash: Oh, okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, don't feel.

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Sam Nash: Well, that makes me feel slightly better, but I am a bit of a… you know, the law says we have to have this, we need to do it, so that's probably where I come from. I'm a bit anxious about it, and I'm really keen…

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Sam Nash: To have it running, working, and…

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Sam Nash: then I'll train the staff we've got to maintain what we've got.

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Sam Nash: because I just think it's too big a mountain for them to climb to do the work initially, because they haven't got the skill set, and I haven't got time to… to… I'd love to, because things like that really interest me, but…

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Sam Nash: I haven't got… I… I've gotta be…

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Sam Nash: I've got to be sensible, I'm trying to do the silica, and I haven't got time to do… Everything.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, well, that's very true of nearly all parish clerks that I know of. They're huge, busy people.

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Sam Nash: Yeah.

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Sam Nash: So, the fact that you offer it as something that you guys do, I just thought was amazingly good, and I thought we would approach you and see what we could get. But yeah, if you could show me what you can offer, that would be brilliant.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so… You've already got a spreadsheet with 865 records in it.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, they're split into, what, 3 or 4 plots, wasn't it?

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Sam Nash: No, that… well, again, I've had to redo the plot numbering on some of the sections, because the… they didn't follow the protocol, and they didn't seem to realize how many.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Duplicated.

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Sam Nash: numbers.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.

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Sam Nash: And all sorts, but yeah.

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Sam Nash: I've sorted it, it's all been rectified, but… Okay, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The trick about Parish Online is that if you can get the information into such a form that it can be automatically updated, then that makes life so much simpler.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And instead of somebody having to laboriously enter 865 records on their own, you can have the computer do it in a few seconds.

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, the…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The primary requirement from Geosphere, the company that makes this, is that every record has to have some coordinates on it, otherwise they don't know where to put it on the map.

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Sam Nash: Oh, okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: They know you've got a plot, but where to put it? So you have to put a record… sorry, a coordinate into the plot.

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Sam Nash: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you can do that by,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: taking the figures off the map… well, let me just show you, it might be easier if I show you. Okay. I'm going to be bouncing backwards and forwards from a couple of screens, so bear with me, but let me just, go into share screen.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm gonna share that one… You're seeing my screen now?

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good, so let me go into 7, I think.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep, there we go. Here's Parish on mine.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You don't need to download Viewer.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: we need to go into Parish online, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Actually, I know this seems weird, but…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, this is fine, this is fine. So, let me just show you, first of all, our,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: cemetery. We have a couple here, but let's go into the one.

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Sam Nash: standard that I need to expect.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you know, there are some people who are way ahead of us.

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Sam Nash: I really…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, they're really good, but they've taught me what it is we got to try and get to.

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Here we go.

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Sam Nash: Always good to be aspiring.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. So, here we've got, one of our two cemeteries.

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Sam Nash: Right?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And… Here we go.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me turn this off, let me turn that off, let me expand that. So, if I turn on the aerial photography.

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I just…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: what you can do… we're now showing two screens. The first one, the first layer is the aerial photography, and underlying that, you have the map.

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Sam Nash: Point.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, the area, yes, exactly. And you want to turn down that so you can see more of the photography. So I'm going to turn that down to zero. Right. Now you see every single gravestone. Yes. And what we've done is put a point on each gravestone and just said whatever the number is.

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And in Parish Online, if you click on any specific point.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: there, you can say, I want to know what the coordinates are.

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Sam Nash: Oh, okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: it tells you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright, so it's copied that now to maybe…

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Sam Nash: Good, isn't it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so if I just show you, it's now stored in memory, so if I type the memory into here…

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There is the coordinates of that gravestone.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So all I would do is now copy that into your spreadsheet for every record. So I'm going to have to do it 865 times.

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it's a whole lot quicker than…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: bringing urge records into Parish Online automatically.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then once you've got the coordinates for each plot.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can send the spreadsheet to,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: to Geosphere, and say, please import these into Parish Online.

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Sam Nash: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: for Peacetown, and then they… they will appear in your parish layers.

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Sam Nash: Oh, fantastic.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: What we'll also try to do is, update the information such as you have on any one record. So, for instance, if you've got

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Pictures of the headstones.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: then, I'll have to check with them if they're able to import attachments like that. I don't think they can. So I think they may have to be brought into the system separately.

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Sam Nash: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But for you, that's a piece of cake. Are you familiar with adding photographs and things to records?

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Sam Nash: Not in Parish Online, but I'm sure it can't be that difficult.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's not difficult at all, so let me just show you one. So, we'll just go for number 102, all right? Yep. So I click on it, and bring up its record.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I go into it, and I want to add an attachment. So you add the attachment there, and you just select it.

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Sam Nash: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And there it is.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay?

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Sam Nash: Yep, and does it just have to… just… it doesn't have to… it has to be a CSV, does it, or…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, no, sorry, that was just my example. No, no, no, it'll be a JPEG file, or a PNG, whatever you've got it in, from the camera.

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Sam Nash: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right? Yeah. So…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think you would have to do that once we've got all of these gravestones into Parish Online.

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Sam Nash: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But, you know, that's a job you can do when you've got a spare 3 minutes, and you just do…

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Sam Nash: Oh, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: 2, 3, or 4 of them and move on.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Or you bring in some.

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Sam Nash: I mean…

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Sam Nash: Yeah, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: A useful child hanging around, got nothing to do.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, I wish I did. I've got, I've got a child hanging around, but they're not useful, I'm afraid I bailed on that one. Every time I try and say to her, how about, would you like to do it? No.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're teenagers, then.

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Sam Nash: Yes, yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, there you go. Wrong age group.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, completely.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: 9-year-old.

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Sam Nash: Oh yes, that would be perfect.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

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Sam Nash: Well, our RFO might have some.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I do.

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Sam Nash: I'd be interested, though. We might be able to get her child onto it for a…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. So then you've got, all of your records in line.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can then overlay this layer upon the layer that you've got that show each of the individual,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: plots as you had them laid out. You sent me photographs, I think, didn't you? Or…

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Sam Nash: I don't know, I'm not sure what Debbie sent you, but possibly she may have sent you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just open it up. I've got it here.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I can go to that, and I can go to…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mine… Beeps down.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, so for each of these…

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Sam Nash: Yeah, so these are just Excel sheets that they've made that are…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Jesus.

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Sam Nash: really give you any information at all, they're just a bit rubbish.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But then you're on a map, so…

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: wrong one, which is the map I want to play.

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Sam Nash: top map section, oh no, it's D…

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Sam Nash: No, it's… yeah, that's it, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm sorry, I think that's really useful.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, you've now got each of these, Graves, plots into Parish Online, and they will show up just like this, or just like the points that I had. And then, anytime you have a photograph to add, you can just click on it and add the photograph.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if the details change, like, you get a new one in here, which I take it is where you're going to add the next lot.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, that… so F in… F and what is labeled J on there are currently… are the current, active…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly.

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Sam Nash: plots, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, and presumably you're only adding those at a much more restrained rate, like, sort of one or two a week or something.

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Sam Nash: Not even that frequently.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not even that day.

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Sam Nash: a lot more, so G is our cremated remains section, and we have a lot more entries in there than in the.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.

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Sam Nash: So, and we have a scattering meadow, so the…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The same rules apply, Sam. If you… if you, have a lot to catch up on.

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Sam Nash: Hmm.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it's just… we create a spreadsheet again, which is very easy for the cremated remains, because they're all in the same place, aren't they?

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you would just send that off again to Parish Online, and they'd re-import it. And every time you add another 100, or whatever it is, you just send it off again, and they all get updated.

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Sam Nash: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So it's very quick, once you've got the system sorted out, and that's basically what you'll be doing with my time, is to sort it out so that it becomes easy to automate after that.

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Sam Nash: Okay, so, and I also need to change this, because we've had to… so J has now become K, and we've put a section J in where the walnut tree is that you can just see straddling F and J there.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, this one.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, so they've put a little section in there.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, sweet.

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Sam Nash: And then J has become K and is slightly bigger.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep, that's easy to do. It's really very fast.

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Sam Nash: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, you know, if it's all sorted out already, then we can just do that as part of my work.

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Sam Nash: Okay, brilliant.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So…

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Sam Nash: That takes a lot of pressure off.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, exactly. Well, that's the whole aim of the game, isn't it, is to get the pressure off you.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, I just… it wasn't some… I know it has to be done, or I know I'm unhappy with what we've got, because as somebody who's really interested in family histories and things like that, and having done research for our families.

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Sam Nash: the, I know that what we're offering online isn't… I mean, A, it's completely incomplete. There's very little actual data on there, and, and it's not easy to use. It's not easy for somebody who doesn't know the cemetery and what they're looking at to, to understand, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I think we were talking earlier about the, what's the, the epitome of all this, and, the idea is if you've got relatives calling from elsewhere, like somebody in Australia, and they're going to.

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Sam Nash: When you make this.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: 10-year trip to Britain, and they went to come and see where Uncle Fred was born, or Great Uncle Fred was buried. Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Not only can they come into your system here and just click on the plot and find out where he is and what he is, but they can also, if they've got treasured photographs or something, they can add them to the record.

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Sam Nash: Oh, gosh, that's good.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I just think it's, you know, people like to see who's there.

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Think of them as the way that you remember them, or some great item that reminds you of Uncle Fred. You know, whether he sailed a boat, or he flew an aeroplane, or he had a particular car that he liked, or something, you can create a sort of memorial, which is really what you want to have.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, which is lovely, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: again.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's…

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Sam Nash: It is context as well to the area, I guess, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Correct, exactly.

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Sam Nash: Oh, he was a miner, we know he was a minor.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go, yep, or you might even…

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Sam Nash: immediately, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, put his, his, he's potted history in there.

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Sam Nash: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so it becomes a miniature, who do you think you are?

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Sam Nash: Yeah, so the information that's been sent to you is our very out-of-date information. The Bath Records Office information is much more up-to-date.

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Sam Nash: And, the guy who did that has, has put the records with some of the potted information on, of how they died, where they died.

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Sam Nash: what they did, if he could find that information. And, I think he's got pictures of the memorial stones on his spreadsheet as well, so… and I don't think from that list that you showed me that Debbie has sent that to you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That was the consultant who did some work for you.

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Sam Nash: Yes, fear.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think, I think I did see that. I think that was the Memorials draft.

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Sam Nash: Oh, that might well be, actually, yes, that might…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, and I think that was very impressive, wasn't it?

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Sam Nash: Yes, yes, he has done a really good job.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: He did do a really good job. I was very impressed with him, and.

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Sam Nash: And he did it in 2 days, which was even more depressing.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did he?

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Sam Nash: Well, he did… he came and collected our stuff, and then sent me this information, this… all this spreadsheet information, two days later. So, I mean, he may have been working on this, prior to that, obviously, because…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right.

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Sam Nash: He'd been waiting for…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know how you go to a graveyard.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go to a graveyard nowadays, and you look at some of the old stones, all the engraving is worn away with the rain and the winds and stuff, so if you've got it recorded here…

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: then you can always know what was originally put there, which I think is very, very touching.

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Sam Nash: Yes, I think that's lovely, and we've… so we've got… our graveyard goes from 58, it was, it was commissioned 57, and the first burials were in 58. And, the very old graves…

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Sam Nash: are made of sandstone, and not sandstone… well, maybe sandstone, yeah, but they've… they… and you just can't read them anymore. Exactly. So, we don't know what… what they say, we just have a record of who was borrowed in there.

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Sam Nash: Which is a real shame, because I've tried… I've tried to photograph them and then, look at… see if we could change the resolution to read it, but it's just too hard.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. Well, something like this would mean that all the future ones will at least be protected. You'll leave… you'll be able to keep the engraving, and so forth.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, no, I think… and the fact that we can go in and take a picture as soon as the memorial stone has been in place…

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Sam Nash: Means that we've got a record of it, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly.

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Sam Nash: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, I think you're well on the way to making a very memorable and treasured resource.

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Sam Nash: Oh, that's good.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, good luck with, pushing it through the Parish Council.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, no, I'm sure they will… I'm sure that they will… I mean, it's just a matter of, adding it into their budget cost for the next precept if they can't find the money in their current budget, so it may need to wait until April, but either way, we'll get it done.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Perfect.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just be…

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Sam Nash: A matter of waiting.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, let me just stop sharing this for the moment.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So whilst you're online, Sam, are there any other questions you've got, or anything else you want to see in Parish Online?

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Sam Nash: So I've got… what I've managed to do so far is, I've put street lights… so we have 135 street lights that the Parish Council maintain.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

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Sam Nash: quite a lot for a parish council. Yes. And,

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Sam Nash: when we, when the Parish Council was first…

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Sam Nash: created, there were, the principal authority at the time refused to give the parishioners streetlights. It was a mining village, and, they didn't have many resources up there, and they just wanted some street lights, and they refused to do it, and so…

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Sam Nash: the Parish Council ended up providing lots of them, but when we… when I took over last year, and we tried to,

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Sam Nash: find out how many streetlights we had so that we could do a 6-year maintenance check on them. It was impossible because we didn't have a proper record of them, so we had to go around and identify every street light, identify their location. I got what three word locations for them.

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Sam Nash: And, and then I put… I mapped them all onto Parish Online so that we could layer over other layers.

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Sam Nash: And, we could… we could use it to look at, when people phone in with complaints about streetlights, we know whether it's ours, we can identify.

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Sam Nash: the name of it, we know where it is exactly, so… so that…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you?

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Sam Nash: It was only valuable for us. I think it's very simple compared to what you guys do, but it was really valuable for us. And it was really, it didn't take that long. Once I got all the information together. Like you say, putting it on Parish Line was, a piece of cake.

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Sam Nash: Yeah. But then I'd forgotten how I'd got the icons on, rather than just having dots, so… That's that…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: antique, you know?

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Sam Nash: Yeah, well, that's what you showed me last week, so that was really good.

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Sam Nash: And then, what we're… what I'm planning on doing is putting…

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Sam Nash: Benches, picnic benches, and, bins and things, similarly onto different layers, so that all of that information can be captured, because, again.

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Sam Nash: there isn't a record of where these things are, and the asset register is another thing that wasn't kept up to date, and so I've tried to very quickly create an asset register, for our agar this year.

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Sam Nash: And that proved almost impossible.

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Sam Nash: So, I'm hoping to be able to do something similar to what I did with street lighting, and do that for all those other things.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, the asset register layers in Parish Online are already there.

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Sam Nash: Oh, I didn't know there were asset register layers!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, there we go, you see. Let me share a screen again with you.

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Sam Nash: And I'm assuming, again, I can put pictorial evidence and things on it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: you can do all sorts of things, but if I go into

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's turn that off. No, sorry, I won't just turn that on. Let's shrink that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Turn that off.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: 10… Shrink that one… And shrink that one. Alright, so here you have assets and maintenance.

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Sam Nash: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if I go into there, you'll see that all the things you want, dog bins, waste bins, that sort of thing, they're all here.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And when you go… when you go into each one of these, you'll find that the structure is already there. So, if I were to, say, create a new record…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Add a new feature. It says, so, what category is this? And the category depends on where you are. So, building contents, you've got a list here of all the things that you're most likely to have in your asset register, and they're already sorted for you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So all you have to do is say…

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Sam Nash: No idea.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can add your computer, and then you can say what sort of computer is it, and where is it, on your desk, and when was it bought for, for how much money.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, as you say, all your agar is taken care of.

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Sam Nash: Wonderful.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it is, and you'll find that it's already there, so you don't have to create anything.

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is one of those, layers that's standard across the country, so every parish council that fills out its asset and maintenance register does it exactly the same way, which makes it really helpful for insurance companies, that if you're making a claim.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then the insurance company is much more likely to pay you, because you've got proper records showing that you're doing due diligence and so forth.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And if somebody sues the parish council, then again, the insurance company is much more prepared to defend you, because they know you've got all the decent records.

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Sam Nash: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, it's…

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Sam Nash: I'm just looking at this, and it says CCTV equipment. I haven't put our CCTV equipment on the, asset register. I didn't realize.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, there you go, you see, this is really helpful.

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Sam Nash: It is really helpful, and I haven't put the defibrillators on either.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, there you go! The interesting thing about Luke.

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Sam Nash: Think about doing that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The defibrillator say they're collaborative?

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Sam Nash: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: That means that everybody in the country can see them, and you can see everybody else's. So if you go into here and you view a table.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right, you now see every defibrillator in the country that's been reported in Parish Online.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Wow. Which is really, really useful if you're going somewhere for a holiday, and then you see somebody collapse, you can just call up Parish Online and say, where's the nearest DFib?

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Sam Nash: Find it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, it's a fabulous system, this is really good. Have you tried using Parish Online on your telephone?

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Sam Nash: No, I've never tried doing that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, well, you really, really should, because it's so much fun. It's like, Google Maps, it'll follow you around.

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Sam Nash: Agent!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: As you're walking along and you see your defibrillator in Peacown, St John, you can take a picture of it, and it'll add the picture to the record in Parish Online. It's really…

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Sam Nash: Dream!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's a really fabulous system.

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Sam Nash: oh my gosh, I must do that. I've never done that. I didn't know you could do that. So I literally, if I'm just… if I've got… if I've got Parish Online open, and I take a photo of one of the… of the, one of the assets, it will… it will…

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Sam Nash: Sort it for me.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, it's a little bit more complex than that. There's a wonderful video in the knowledge base that shows it.

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Sam Nash: Right?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, you can… so take a look. It's only about 40 seconds. No, it's a bit longer than that, but not much longer than that, and it is rather fun. So, are you familiar with the knowledge base, the help desk?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, here I am on Help.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it says.

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Sam Nash: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: When you go to the knowledge base, the epic ops, and then you just say, I want to hear about, what do they call it? They call it geolocation.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, it says, using it.

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Sam Nash: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright, so now you have a video.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And out of interest, that's the CEO of Geosphere.

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Sam Nash: I'm…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Chris Muse, and then you can just play the video for 3 minutes, okay? But he shows you

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you watching this?

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Sam Nash: Yes, I am.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, let me just give you some sound.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm going to share the screen with you as we go, but I'm going to talk you through it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So the first thing I'm going to do is go to, my web browser and open up Parish online.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: goes to the normal web page that I would do on my computer.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I log in?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is where we have to pan a little bit, wait for that to happen.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: add my input.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now, the first thing I need to do is go to the bottom left, three little blobs button, the menu, and click on Geolocation.

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Sam Nash: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: gonna ask me whether I want to, allow my phone to use my location.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I love it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the first thing you'll see is actually nothing, nothing will change, unless you are in the location that you started. So, in the bottom right-hand corner, click on the little Contra button.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: What that'll do, next of all, use the Follow Me.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: feature, and it moves me to the location of my GPS.

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Sam Nash: Wow, that's really clever!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Isn't it? That's really clever.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: In this meeting? In this poll.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Class 3, that goes?

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Sam Nash: Why?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: used as a reference. So, it might be accurate, it might not, but just let's do it again.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm gonna say… the bench that I just adds into my… Fixed client asset register.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'd like a tickle menu.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go to… let's have register… And… I will have to eat.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Actually, she's just been, but…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You click on that icon, and it's open up the infrastructure.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it shows me all the information I have, or in this case.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: In this case, I mean, they're transparent in the classroom.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: People advertisement.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: If I could take photos, for example.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Potentially.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, that's really easy, isn't it? That's really good.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Ben.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But the added attachment of the document.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So now if I log back on here on my phone, or back at home, when I log on to my computer, good to see that photo that I am seeing.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I think that's so much fun.

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Sam Nash: Yes, that's really… and it's really simple, it should be really quick and simple to do.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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Sam Nash: Oh, I'm gonna have… I'm gonna have… I'm gonna be busy. I'm gonna have so much.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You have to play, Sam, you have to play.

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Sam Nash: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, I don't know how much spare time you have, but do you know that we do a series of, Parish Online training lessons, if you want them?

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Sam Nash: No.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, well, let me put in, the chat. Let me just stop going this bit.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know what I mean? I need to turn off the audio. There's a gardener outside making a little noise.

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Sam Nash: Alright.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, if you can see in your chat, I've put the address for the, the website for training courses.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's a deal on at the moment, where if you… if he's down in St. John, for instance, were to go for an annual training subscription, which costs £100.

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Sam Nash: Right. Well, it's nothing, is it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, no, exactly, but it allows you to send any number of people to any number of courses for a year.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So it's a real bargain.

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Sam Nash: That is really good. I might have to look into that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There are 8 courses that take you from newbie to expert in, you know, 8 single hours.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Why?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's written by a genius.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.

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Sam Nash: Written by you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. And I think we have lots of fun. And the course, the one session that is the greatest fun is the one on geolocation, that business with doing it on your telephone. It's hilarious. Yeah.

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Sam Nash: Can you imagine?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's also by far, the most frustrating, because, it's… it seems interesting if you have more than one person on the course, because some will have Apple phones and some will have Android. Oh, gosh.

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Sam Nash: Yes, yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The system works slightly differently for both, and when you're trying to teach both at the same time, and people are getting fumble-fingered, and they can't do things, it's.

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Sam Nash: We're all looking.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it is fun, so if you have a spare £100, and you have a bunch of people who want to learn Parish online, this is the way to do it.

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Sam Nash: I will go and find some. I'm sure I can find £100 spare, and I can get my maintenance, and grounds manager on it, and our projects officer on it, and I can do it, all for £100.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, indeed, but then we go further, Sam. Suppose your maintenance people are out there, and they're maintaining the park bench. They're gonna give it a fresh coat of paint, or a new stain, or something. They can take a before and after photograph, and add them straight into the record, and you'll see them in Parish Online.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: business, and I was talking to you about the insurance companies seeing good governance. If someone then comes along a week later and says, Grandma fell off your bench because it was.

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Sam Nash: That's, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've got the photographs to prove that it is actually being properly maintained.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And that makes it so simple for the.

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Sam Nash: And it's all in one place, which is much more important as well.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.

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Sam Nash: Searching around in millions and millions of old records looking for it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, that's… you see, now I try and teach people that Parish Online is not just a mapping system, it's also your filing system. Yeah. So suppose…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Suppose you have a parish councillor who wants to be able to see what last year's children's playground report was, so he can compare it to how the system is now. Did we fulfill all the obligations that were given to us in the playground report? So he…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: the parish clerk's gone on holiday, he's taken the keys to the filing cabinet with him, and no one can get into the filing cabinet. What do you do? But if you've done your job properly, you say, well, just go to the map, click on the playground, and up will come the report. I mean, how…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Just, you have a geographical filing cabinet. Wherever you store stuff, it's where it is. So, if there's a report on the school, you put it in the school. If I showed you our village hall, it comes up with all the records of how to turn on the Wi-Fi, how does the solar panels work, what's the…

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Sam Nash: There's invoice cost.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: for the sternal panels, and they're all there. I just think it makes it sternal.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, of course it is, sheer genius.

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Sam Nash: It is! That's absolutely fantastic!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is.

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Sam Nash: Oh my gosh, I need that in my life. That is amazing.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is the most underappreciated piece of software in the world. It is brilliant. I'm so impressed with it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know, I spent a lifetime in IT, and in all the time, I have never found a commercial package that can do the job better than the free package. So you get the open source stuff.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: like, LibreOffice is so much better than Microsoft Office. So it goes, and Linux is so much better than Windows, and the only exception I've found to that is Parish Online. I cannot find a free version, an open source version of anything that comes anywhere close to Parish Online.

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Sam Nash: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's mind-boggling.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So, that's my 35 years of experience for you.

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Sam Nash: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's an amazing system, and I think it's completely underused. And that's one of the reasons that we hold these sessions on Friday afternoons, is to try and teach people there's so much more they can do with Parish Online. And in the end, it turns out to be a huge time saver. The biggest complaint I get from Parish clerks is I just don't have the time.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: To which my retort is, this'll give you more time.

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Sam Nash: It will… it will allow you to do those things, yeah. It is… the more people tell me, the more you tell me, because it's you guys that I learn my things from, I frequently watch your, your online banter things that you, you know, your watch back.

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Sam Nash: What do you call it? I can't remember.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: The, the, the great…

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Sam Nash: collaboration.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: On Wednesday?

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Sam Nash: Yeah, yeah, no, I do watch that as well, actually, but I… the… the session… these sessions that you record and put online, I frequently go back and watch those, because, you know, I'm not always available on Friday afternoons, but…

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Sam Nash: They are really informative, they're really interesting, and I love watching them, so I learn so much from them, but then it's being able to put it into practice and having that confidence to have a go.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know.

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Sam Nash: As soon as you get lost, you then think,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Where the…

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Sam Nash: And then you lose heart, but…

467\
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know, Sam, to me, it's the most reassuring thing there is in the world at the moment, is you go onto these,

468\
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: banter sessions, or you talk to parish councils all over the country, and people are so talented. There is so much expertise.

469\
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: lying hidden in tiny little places. You know, you go to the Forest of Dean, or somewhere like that, and you find that they've got the best techniques for doing this, this, and this than anywhere else. And you go to… well, Shropshire is a great example. They're so far advanced in their wildlife

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: reservations and how they're rewilding and so forth. It's fascinating.

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Sam Nash: I mean?

472\
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then you go to, oh, Gambling Gay in Cambridgeshire, and they've got a,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: a wind turbine, and you can learn all about how you can set up your own wind turbine, how you pay for it, how you get the money out of it, how much money it generates. I mean, that's all really useful information.

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Sam Nash: It is!

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: And to have it come from a parish council, you're much more inclined to trust it.

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01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:22.940\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Because these are your sorts of people, they work your little ways.

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01:05:22.940 --> 01:05:26.359\
Sam Nash: Absolutely, and they've got standards they have to live up to, haven't they?

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01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:36.159\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. So, I think it's a wonderful system. Yeah. And this is… we're just getting started. In 10 years' time, I'm going to overthrow the government.

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Sam Nash: Oh, really? Oh, gosh, I look forward to finding out about that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Chris, remember, you first heard it here.

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01:05:41.620 --> 01:05:47.140\
Sam Nash: I am, absolutely, I've got it locked in. In fact, I'll put a note on Parish Online so I don't forget.

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01:05:47.140 --> 01:05:49.860\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

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01:05:49.860 --> 01:05:51.950\
Sam Nash: Brilliant, thank you so much.

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01:05:52.290 --> 01:05:57.440\
Sam Nash: Let's go and see if I can, if I can wangle £100 out of somewhere.

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01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:58.589\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. And,

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01:05:58.590 --> 01:06:08.229\
Sam Nash: And, and see if we can sign up for it. So I just sign up here on this page of training, Parish Online Training, yep. Yep. And that, and that will,

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01:06:08.430 --> 01:06:11.299\
Sam Nash: we'll get… Access for my staff.

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01:06:11.550 --> 01:06:12.120\
Sam Nash: I can't remember.

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01:06:12.120 --> 01:06:12.550\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go.

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01:06:12.550 --> 01:06:13.660\
Sam Nash: That's amazing!

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01:06:13.660 --> 01:06:16.019\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, it's a very clever system, it really is.

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Sam Nash: Yeah, brilliant.

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01:06:17.450 --> 01:06:19.659\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I'm delighted you joined us for today.

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01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:27.179\
Sam Nash: I'm delighted I managed to get the time to join you today as well. It's always worth it, like you say. Absolutely always worth it.

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01:06:27.620 --> 01:06:29.820\
Sam Nash: Super. Thank you so much, Graeme.

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01:06:29.820 --> 01:06:31.929\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have a very good holiday weekend, Sam.

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01:06:32.090 --> 01:06:38.189\
Sam Nash: Yes, I didn't… do you know, that's how bad it is. I didn't realize Monday was a bank holiday until someone mentioned it yesterday.

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01:06:38.190 --> 01:06:39.010\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: We have the same profile.

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01:06:39.010 --> 01:06:40.030\
Sam Nash: Really bad.

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01:06:40.030 --> 01:06:45.220\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Our parish clerk has to send out the notices of meetings 3 days in advance.

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01:06:45.220 --> 01:06:45.880\
Sam Nash: Yes.

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01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:53.859\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: And, he'd forgotten it was a bank holiday, and so we can't have our meetings next Tuesday, because we haven't given 3 people enough days in advance.

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01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:54.990\
Sam Nash: Oh my god.

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01:06:54.990 --> 01:06:56.399\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: We had to cancel it a week.

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01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:57.539\
Sam Nash: So you've just.

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01:06:57.540 --> 01:06:59.529\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: It panicked me, because…

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01:06:59.750 --> 01:07:06.769\
Sam Nash: We've got our full council meeting on Tuesday, but I put mine out last Wednesday, so am I okay? Am I compliant?

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01:07:06.770 --> 01:07:08.970\
Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, you just made it.

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01:07:08.970 --> 01:07:13.870\
Sam Nash: lucky, because I had no idea it was a bank holiday on Monday, absolutely no idea.

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01:07:15.160 --> 01:07:17.710\
Sam Nash: So there you go, thank you, thank you very much.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Lovely to talk to you, take care.

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Sam Nash: Lovely to talk to you as well. Bye now.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bye-bye.

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