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# 260515 - 15May26 - session 26-20

cadastral parcels, annotations, copy data between layers, copy data from parish layers to Neighbourhood Planning layers, Assets of Community value, geolocation

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Video Timeline (min:sec)

00:00 - 00:35 Introductory Banter\
00:35 - 25:00 Cadastral Parcels - printing, labels, scaling\
25:00 - 30:00 Using Geolocation on laptop or tablet for cadastral parcels\
30:00 - 42:56 Copying and merging layers\
53:00 - 59:00 Assets of Community Value\
59:00 - 63:35 (end) Transfer parish layer data into Neighbourhood Plan Layers

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### Meeting Summary - POB session 26-20

May 15, 2026 01:55 PM London ID: 897 5877 7706

### Quick recap

The meeting focused on solving technical challenges with Parish Online, particularly regarding the display and printing of cadastral parcel data at different scales. Peter presented his issue of needing to show cadastral parcel IDs on larger area maps for a nature recovery project, and the group discussed various workarounds including using tile printing, creating custom layers, and manually annotating maps. The conversation then shifted to Sheila's questions about transferring important views and vistas data between parish and neighborhood planning layers, with the group confirming that direct transfers weren't possible but support could assist with migration. The conversation ended with a discussion about Assets of Community Value (ACV), where John advised Sheila on the process of registering local assets, particularly regarding the Stowe Arms pub that had recently come up for sale.

### Next steps

* Sheila: Email Parish Online support to request transfer/duplication of the "important views and vistas" layer into the neighbourhood plan layers (if desired).
* Sheila: Consider registering assets of potential interest (e.g., the Stowe Arms pub or other assets) as Assets of Community Value (ACV) with the district council, including preparation of a business case if required by the council.

### Summary

#### Technical and Project Updates Meeting

Stuart led the meeting in Graham's absence, who was on holiday. The group discussed technical issues with screen sharing and connection problems. Peter joined the meeting and mentioned he was working on a nature recovery project with parishes and was in the process of registering as a subcontractor, though he was experiencing some challenges with the process.

#### Cadastral Map Printing Challenges

Peter discussed challenges with printing cadastral parcel maps at a reduced scale for field work, noting that parcel IDs disappear when the map scale is reduced. Andrew suggested using tile printing to cover larger areas, though this would result in multiple separate maps that need to be pieced together. John confirmed that even at the maximum A0 size, it would still be impossible to display the entire parish on a single sheet with visible cadastral parcel details. Stuart suggested annotating the map as an alternative solution, though the discussion was cut short when Peter had to leave to work with Parish Online.

#### Cadastral Mapping Scale Discussion

Stuart and Peter discussed printing and scaling options in Parish Online for mapping fields and cadastral parcel details. They determined that zooming in to a scale of 1:10,000 or 1:15,000 would be necessary to see the cadastral parcel IDs, though this might not capture the entire area. As an alternative approach, Stuart suggested using the annotate tool to label specific fields of interest, particularly those adjacent to rivers for catchment area analysis.

#### Map Printing Settings Discussion

Stuart explained how to adjust map print settings for different printer sizes, recommending PDF or PNG formats for A0 printing. He clarified that while the map's detail would scale up to A0 size, it wouldn't reveal additional information like cadastral parcels that aren't visible at the current screen resolution. Andrew suggested using tile printing with multiple A4-sized PDFs covering the entire parish area as an alternative approach. John questioned whether detailed cadastral information would be necessary in field work.

#### Field Boundary Cadastral ID Linking

Peter and Stuart discussed linking field boundaries to cadastral parcel IDs, with Peter suggesting using a 1:25,000 scale map and creating a spreadsheet to link IDs. Stuart proposed using Parish Online on a phone to geolocate in the field. Andrew clarified that while individual spreadsheets can be created from different layers, joining them in Excel requires manual work, which he found cumbersome.

#### Geolocation and Cadastral Data Integration

The team discussed challenges with layering geolocation and cadastral parcel data in Parish Online. Andrew confirmed that multiple layers cannot be created within a single table in Parish Online, requiring use of Excel instead. Stuart suggested creating a point layer within Parish Layers to record geolocation data, which could then be linked to specific locations and attributes like land ownership. The discussion concluded with Stuart demonstrating how to create and edit a test point layer, including the ability to add cadastral parcel information as a text field.

#### Cadastral Parcel Data Management

The group discussed methods for handling cadastral parcel data in their mapping system. Stuart demonstrated how to record and display cadastral parcel information in a table format, though noted that the styling doesn't automatically show the parcel numbers. The team explored options for importing and managing this data, including using Excel spreadsheets with XLOOKUP functions and creating separate layers with assigned cadastral parcel numbers. They identified limitations in Parish Online's ability to merge or import data between different layers, though they confirmed that copying objects between compatible layers is possible.

#### Parish Online Layer Setup Tutorial

Stuart explained how to set up and verify different styles of layers (points, lines, and polygons) in Parish Online, demonstrating the process of duplicating and styling cadastral parcel layers. He showed how to copy specific parcels to create test polygon layers and set up criteria for labeling, though encountered a technical issue with saving the layer names due to allowed values configuration. Andrew noted that while the process requires significant preparation work, the results are permanent and changes to cadastral parcels are infrequent. The discussion concluded with Sheila asking about the neighborhood development plan and parish layers related to important views and vistas.

#### Parish Data Transfer Discussion

The group discussed whether to transfer important views and vistas information from parish layers to neighbourhood planning layers in Parish Online. Stuart explained that transferring the data would only be possible if the fields matched exactly, which they currently don't. John advised Sheila on registering assets of community value (ACV), particularly regarding the Stowe Arms pub, explaining that this would give the parish first refusal rights if it were sold. The discussion concluded with Sheila deciding not to transfer the views and vistas data, and John suggesting she could set up a working group to continue her interests after leaving the council.

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#### Audio-Transcript:

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Stuart Bacon: Hi, Andrew.

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Andrew Clegg: I'll say it again now. Hello, Stuart.

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Andrew Clegg: Anybody else coming?

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Stuart Bacon: I have no idea, I know Graham's not.

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Andrew Clegg: Oh, okay. Because I haven't been for a long time, because Fridays… oh, my cat is…

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Stuart Bacon: Lost you.

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Andrew Clegg: Fool me.

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Stuart Bacon: You're breaking up. I've lost your picture, and your sound's going crackly.

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Andrew Clegg: You've lost the picture because the cat has just pulled out the plug. Is that better?

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Stuart Bacon: Yep, there we go.

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Andrew Clegg: Hi, June.

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Andrew Clegg: Yes, okay. Sorry I haven't been for a long time. Fridays have become very difficult for me.

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Stuart Bacon: You're able to join when you can.

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John Roberts: Depends what's going on.

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Stuart Bacon: Graham isn't available this week, he's on holiday.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: I'm not a parish clerk or anything like that. I am working on a nature recovery project with a number of parishes, so I'm gradually kind of registering as what Parish Online call a subcontractor.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Fair enough. And, I'm…

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: discovering a few things which, are not quite what I… well, are causing me problems, put it that way.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: yeah, so reduce the scale of it, so I can get as many… as much area in as possible on that A4 sheet.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: You know, able to be able to take that out into the field, you know, and then we could actually do it, for example, look at the land use in each of the fields, on there.

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Andrew Clegg: Now, I'm not sure, you know, not all printers have tile print.

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Andrew Clegg: It's when I was doing the neighborhood plan that I did that, and that was 6 years, 7 years ago or so.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: You can actually adjust that data layer so that they appear at a much smaller scale.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Or still… still are there at a much smaller scale?

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: See, the opposite, it does show up in a large scale.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: As soon as you try to reduce the scale down.

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Andrew Clegg: I wonder what would happen.

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Stuart Bacon: And that will give you the ability to, sort of, retain the, the detail. You can write the, annotate the, the collateral parcel number over the piece of land.

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Stuart Bacon: an option.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: think of an idea. I can't remember the idea straight away, so I'm just gonna pull that up right now.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: And choose one of them, except I haven't got the right, I'm going into my database to try to get these out.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Unless somebody else can quickly, kind of, get… get it up on the screen and show me. That's what… if you've got… because…

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: I'm gonna be… I'm gonna be stumbling to kind of get this to a point where you can all see.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Yeah, I've currently just… I've got 4 separate ones, I can't find the… my,

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Record with them all in at the present moment.

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Stuart Bacon: Okay, no worries.

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Stuart Bacon: We empowering.

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Stuart Bacon: So…

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Select… select a field in… fields instead of houses, because they're much easier, more difficult than houses.

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Stuart Bacon: Do you want the entirety of a field?

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Stuart Bacon: I like to be a bit that will print. Yeah.

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Stuart Bacon: Yeah, I mean, when you're out in the field, looking up the cadastro parcel would be… awkward.

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Stuart Bacon: as long as you've recorded your point position, and the other detail when you're out there, going back to it when you sat at a computer gives you a quicker ability to search the gastroposal details.

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Andrew Clegg: Sorry?

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Stuart Bacon: You can. You.

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Stuart Bacon: So, if you wanted to have… if you… rather than… you can't copy the entirety of a cadastral layer… No.

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Stuart Bacon: Into your own, parish layers and deal with. But what you could do… Is copy… I…

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Stuart Bacon: And then, when you are…

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Stuart Bacon: If you want to then go back and double-check.

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Stuart Bacon: when you're in, Parish Online, if you go to, the administration of your lairs.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: But that's the layers that you have created.

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Stuart Bacon: They're the, they're the, they're the parish layers that you've created yourself, and yeah, I mean, you can overlay as many of those together as you so choose.

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Stuart Bacon: You, you could… All information from…

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Stuart Bacon: So what I've just done there, and I'll go back to… to the map.

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Stuart Bacon: From the Canastral parcel lair,

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Stuart Bacon: On the canastal Parcels there.

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Stuart Bacon: Choosing along the edge of… Here. If I wanted to, sort of.

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Stuart Bacon: particular cadastral parcel, and you have to do it for each individual parcel of land to another layer. So for that… for this point, it would be my test point layer.

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Stuart Bacon: Sorry, my test polygon layer.

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Stuart Bacon: then I would name it as the Cadastro Parcel Number.

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Stuart Bacon: And save that. I mean, you can have… when you set the test… what is my test polygon layer up, you set as many criteria up here as you so choose.

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Stuart Bacon: But then… Yeah, my… If I turn… Come back down and turn… international parcels off.

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Stuart Bacon: Over the last two items, and whatever is there.

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Stuart Bacon: They're the polygons, and if I go into the styling, I can force the labels, for those?

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Stuart Bacon: So that at whatever layer… whatever,

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Stuart Bacon: Why is that not working now?

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Stuart Bacon: Okay, for some reason, it didn't save the name.

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Stuart Bacon: when I saved… The polygon, which is why the number's not coming up.

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Stuart Bacon: So, we need to go… back.

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Stuart Bacon: So, filmed.

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Stuart Bacon: We're including some.

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Stuart Bacon: this point is where I won't do it.

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Stuart Bacon: That's because I've got allowed values in my field. That's not an issue. It's how I've set my field up, yeah, okay.

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Stuart Bacon: That's really… Zoom out… Yeah, now you can see the, canastal parcel number.

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Stuart Bacon: On the piece of land.

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Andrew Clegg: Whatever way you do it, it's lengthy, isn't it?

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Stuart Bacon: It's… it takes a little bit of prep work.

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Stuart Bacon: But then once it's done, it's there.

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Stuart Bacon: Forever. And I mean, cadastro parcels are… No.

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Stuart Bacon: Not every day.

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Stuart Bacon: Yeah.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Yes, yes.

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

498
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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Stanley, yeah.

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Andrew Clegg: Picky.

500
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Peter Bates - SSECAM: A lot, yeah.

501
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Sheila Churchward: Can I ask a question now? Have we finished?

502
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Sheila Churchward: I… I would like to know if, with our neighbourhood Development Plan, we've set a… we've got on our…

503
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Sheila Churchward: parish… group of, of, what do you call them? Oh, dear.

504
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Stuart Bacon: Volunteers? Answers?

505
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00:50:51.730 --> 00:50:56.059
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Sheila Churchward: layers. One of our parish layers is important views and vistas.

506
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Sheila Churchward: And I'm wondering, is there any point in having it in our parish layer, and whether we could copy it into the neighbourhood planning layer… series of layers instead?

507
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Stuart Bacon: Only if it exists in exactly the same format, in exactly the same criterion.

508
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Sheila Churchward: Well, I looked in the important views and vistas, Table, and there was nothing.

509
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Sheila Churchward: Nothing else was set up in there.

510
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah, when I did this, I had to use desktop publishing to take a map of the village, which I took from parish online, and then inserted the views and vistas all over the parish, pointing in ways that they should be pointing, and then I…

511
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Sheila Churchward: It's all done, that's all done in our parish layers, but I was just wondering, you know, there's this whole series of layers called neighborhood planning. Should we really have put all that information into neighbourhood planning?

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Sheila Churchward: And if so.

513
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Sheila Churchward: if that was the case, would it be easy to transfer that information in? Because we've got important views and vistas layer, and in important views and vistas.

514
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Sheila Churchward: Directions, so we can either have just the directions layer, or the… or the lanes of the vistas.

515
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Stuart Bacon: And just run us through what you've got.

516
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Sheila Churchward: John, I'll see if I can share.

517
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Sheila Churchward: Is that… does that work?

518
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Stuart Bacon: It's just coming through.

519
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00:52:41.740 --> 00:52:46.320
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Stuart Bacon: It says it's starting screen sharing. Yep, there we go, we can see…

520
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Sheila Churchward: You see, what you can see there is… in our… parish layers.

521
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Stuart Bacon: Yep.

522
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Sheila Churchward: We've got… and it's under Important Views and Vistas.

523
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00:53:00.260 --> 00:53:09.130
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Sheila Churchward: If I turn that off and just put the directions, you can see all the little direction errors… Yeah. …in there.

524
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00:53:09.520 --> 00:53:19.820
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Sheila Churchward: But I'm not really interested in putting the direction arrows into the general one, but I was just wondering, is there any point in me putting

525
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Sheila Churchward: Or, putting a copy of this.

526
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00:53:23.030 --> 00:53:27.140
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Sheila Churchward: into the neighborhood planning series.

527
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00:53:27.140 --> 00:53:32.000
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Stuart Bacon: The… The clarity that we need to obtain is…

528
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00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:39.939
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Stuart Bacon: In your important views and vistas, what fields does that, information contain?

529
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00:53:40.500 --> 00:53:41.549
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Sheila Churchward: Let's have a look.

530
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Sheila Churchward: No sin.

531
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Sheila Churchward: Let's it, is it?

532
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Sheila Churchward: I don't know how… this wasn't done by me, this wasn't done by me, and I… I'm just confused, to be absolutely honest. So it's as though…

533
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Sheila Churchward: Somebody has put in a layer.

534
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00:54:03.690 --> 00:54:07.150
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Stuart Bacon: Yeah, so it just closed that table view for the moment.

535
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John Roberts: Go to Style.

536
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Sheila Churchward: Yep.

537
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Stuart Bacon: Yeah, close the X on that one.

538
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Stuart Bacon: Go down to your layer of important views and visitors, and look at the style, yep.

539
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Sheila Churchward: Hmm.

540
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00:54:25.630 --> 00:54:27.480
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Stuart Bacon: Single shape there.

541
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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

542
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Sheila Churchward: Just a color, an outline.

543
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Stuart Bacon: Okay, yep, so, cancel that one.

544
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00:54:36.700 --> 00:54:40.050
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Stuart Bacon: I think it can be done, but not by us.

545
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Sheila Churchward: But is it a point… is there any point in doing it?

546
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Sheila Churchward: You know, does anybody else want to know about our important views and vistas? Because I'm assuming that once it's into the neighborhood planning.

547
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Sheila Churchward: section. It's available to everybody who uses… Parish online.

548
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Andrew Clegg: The only unit.

549
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Stuart Bacon: No, I don't believe I shared theirs.

550
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Stuart Bacon: Are they?

551
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00:55:11.910 --> 00:55:15.569
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John Roberts: Oh, you, you… Do you have a neighbourhood plan?

552
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00:55:16.260 --> 00:55:17.580
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Sheila Churchward: We have, yes.

553
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John Roberts: Did you use Parish Online to do it?

554
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Sheila Churchward: Nope.

555
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John Roberts: In that, my opinion, is don't bother.

556
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John Roberts: Because…

557
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Sheila Churchward: Our neighbourhood plan is… is 13 years old.

558
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

559
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John Roberts: The neighbourhood planning, thing on Parish Online is, yes, if you're creating or updating a neighbourhood plan, you'll use that for the entirety of your plan.

560
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

561
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John Roberts: I haven't come across a lot of people yet who've actually used it to create a neighborhood plan.

562
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Andrew Clegg: No. I'm just looking at now, Sheila, what I did. I've got 4 layers associated with views and vistas.

563
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Andrew Clegg: The only possible use for them, really, is in creating a map

564
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Andrew Clegg: for publishing in within your neighborhood plan. And…

565
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00:56:15.660 --> 00:56:21.059
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Andrew Clegg: I haven't used these four layers at all since we made the neighborhood.

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Sheila Churchward: No.

567
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Andrew Clegg: Which is usually… but…

568
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Andrew Clegg: We have to revise the plan, and already we've noted that there are some views and vistas that are missing, and some of these are no longer useful because somebody's built something and blocked them, and so on.

569
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Andrew Clegg: So I think they're probably useful, but just as background stuff for later revision of the plan.

570
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Sheila Churchward: That's fine. That was my feeling. To be honest, I thought this is very personal… parochial. It's a very parochial view, isn't it?

571
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

572
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Sheila Churchward: And, but what bothered me was… when I was… my… my time…

573
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Sheila Churchward: With the parish council, we're finishing a year's time, and I'm just… I'm in this tidying up period.

574
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00:57:08.560 --> 00:57:19.449
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Sheila Churchward: And I just wanted… I just wanted to know if I would be able to… if I should leave the system in a, you know, tidy, and.

575
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Andrew Clegg: I'm just like…

576
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Sheila Churchward: through sorting things out, making sure that I've set it up with information that somebody will come on after me and carry on with it. We have got an assistant to the clerk, and she's been partially trained in this.

577
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Sheila Churchward: And I know that our… finance officer uses it. In fact, I'm pretty sure our finance officer did this.

578
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Sheila Churchward: Because she also did, the recruitment leaflets.

579
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Sheila Churchward: You know, she does… she does, all sorts of bits and pieces in it.

580
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah. I think we're coming back to the old problem of lots of people using these, making different layers, and the chaotic left-hand column.

581
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Andrew Clegg: There is no… still no way of stacking these layers and filing them and archiving them. And we've been asking that for how many years, John? Years and years.

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John Roberts: Since we've been using…

583
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Andrew Clegg: But they haven't got round to it yet. So what you need is basically a folder marked Sheila, and you put them all in.

584
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Sheila Churchward: you know, it's like, we've… this is stuff I've been doing over… over the years, you know, the,

585
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00:58:41.750 --> 00:58:44.469
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Sheila Churchward: Trying to get a traffic management through the village?

586
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00:58:44.770 --> 00:58:51.099
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Sheila Churchward: Also sorting out traffic management for all the new developments that you can't actually see on that plan.

587
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00:58:51.290 --> 00:58:53.149
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Sheila Churchward: But if you think of…

588
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Sheila Churchward: Everything on the side of this road to the blue line is marsh, and river, and mud.

589
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Sheila Churchward: to the left, there's Exminster Village there, and you can see at the top, it says Trude House.

590
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Sheila Churchward: What?

591
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00:59:08.770 --> 00:59:10.790
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Sheila Churchward: All this area here.

592
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00:59:11.220 --> 00:59:20.629
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Sheila Churchward: Well, this area here, and this area here is a new Ridgetop Park. It doesn't show, but, oh, it got a Ridgetop Park sign.

593
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Sheila Churchward: And all this is housing.

594
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Sheila Churchward: All the bottom here is 2,000 houses now.

595
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Sheila Churchward: Just… just there is 2,000… and in here, there's going to be another 750 houses, and in here, there's going to be a development, a business development.

596
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Sheila Churchward: So we're going to end up with about… with a third of the land left.

597
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00:59:44.680 --> 00:59:47.879
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Sheila Churchward: And all the rest will be building, or marsh.

598
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00:59:49.790 --> 00:59:56.890
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Sheila Churchward: And it'd be nice… I'd like it sorted so that people could actually look to see how much is development.

599
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00:59:57.770 --> 01:00:01.620
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Sheila Churchward: And how much is marsh, and actual green land?

600
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01:00:03.020 --> 01:00:05.410
\
Sheila Churchward: Before I go.

601
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Sheila Churchward: But, you know, so we've set up the community resilience Plan and the cycleways, Obi…

602
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01:00:18.350 --> 01:00:25.190
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Sheila Churchward: I'm not actually using it for any sort of development we're doing in the village for the Neighbourhood Development Plan.

603
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01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:32.450
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Sheila Churchward: But I don't know about you, have you been asked if you want to take on any assets from your district council?

604
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01:00:35.500 --> 01:00:44.559
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Sheila Churchward: And if so, I'd like to copy that into this here, you know, District… District Council don't…

605
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01:00:47.380 --> 01:00:55.580
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John Roberts: Are there… can I ask a couple of questions, Sheila? Are there assets within your parish that you would be interested in taking on?

606
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01:00:56.380 --> 01:00:57.540
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Sheila Churchward: Oh, yes.

607
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01:00:57.780 --> 01:00:58.630
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Sheila Churchward: Definitely.

608
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01:00:58.630 --> 01:01:05.140
\
John Roberts: Do you… do you have an ACV, an asset of Community Value, on those assets?

609
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01:01:05.550 --> 01:01:13.040
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Sheila Churchward: On the ones we've got, yes, but not on the ones we possibly, would be taking on.

610
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01:01:13.580 --> 01:01:18.079
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Sheila Churchward: We haven't done any evaluation on those. If you're interested.

611
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01:01:18.420 --> 01:01:24.339
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John Roberts: Yeah, if you're interested in Taking on an asset from whoever owns it.

612
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01:01:24.870 --> 01:01:31.459
\
John Roberts: I would advise you to get it registered as an asset of community value with your local authority.

613
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01:01:31.710 --> 01:01:34.359
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John Roberts: Which will be Devon, I assume?

614
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01:01:34.810 --> 01:01:37.550
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Sheila Churchward: Our local authorities, Teambridge.

615
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01:01:38.530 --> 01:01:40.450
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John Roberts: No, the count… the units.

616
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01:01:40.450 --> 01:01:42.410
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Sheila Churchward: Oh, the County Council was Devon.

617
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01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.310
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John Roberts: Yeah, so you need to register with Devon that…

618
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01:01:45.590 --> 01:01:49.830
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John Roberts: That building, if you like, is an asset of community value.

619
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01:01:50.270 --> 01:01:51.190
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Sheila Churchward: Meanwhile…

620
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01:01:51.190 --> 01:01:51.749
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John Roberts: If it then…

621
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01:01:51.750 --> 01:01:53.090
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Sheila Churchward: the stowy arms.

622
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01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:59.980
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John Roberts: Yeah, if it comes up for sale, or the owners decide to sell it, you will be given, I think it's 6 months.

623
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01:02:01.190 --> 01:02:05.310
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John Roberts: to be able to raise the money to buy it. You will get first offer.

624
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01:02:06.050 --> 01:02:07.120
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Sheila Churchward: Yes.

625
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01:02:07.120 --> 01:02:10.250
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John Roberts: We've done it with several buildings in the village now.

626
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01:02:10.710 --> 01:02:13.140
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Andrew Clegg: How difficult is it to do it, John?

627
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01:02:13.730 --> 01:02:14.890
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John Roberts: It's not.

628
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01:02:14.890 --> 01:02:15.629
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Sheila Churchward: You get a form.

629
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01:02:15.630 --> 01:02:19.590
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John Roberts: There's a form… yeah, there's a form you fill out. You can do it online.

630
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01:02:19.890 --> 01:02:26.129
\
John Roberts: And they will come back and give you an answer, yay or nay. You can register it or you can't.

631
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01:02:26.130 --> 01:02:26.580
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Andrew Clegg: Understood.

632
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01:02:26.580 --> 01:02:27.740
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John Roberts: 5 years.

633
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01:02:27.740 --> 01:02:29.789
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Andrew Clegg: Yeah, can you do it with fields?

634
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01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:31.369
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John Roberts: You can do it.

635
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01:02:31.370 --> 01:02:33.139
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Sheila Churchward: It means you've got to put a…

636
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01:02:34.030 --> 01:02:37.379
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Sheila Churchward: I'd just like to say, we've just been looking at,

637
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01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.840
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Sheila Churchward: The pub in the village.

638
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01:02:41.290 --> 01:02:43.800
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Sheila Churchward: It is called the Stowie Arms.

639
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01:02:45.090 --> 01:02:45.850
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Sheila Churchward: Just that?

640
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01:02:45.850 --> 01:02:48.259
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John Roberts: Nothing… nothing to do with where I live, then.

641
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01:02:50.380 --> 01:02:53.929
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Sheila Churchward: No, and, it's come up for sale.

642
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01:02:54.650 --> 01:03:03.230
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Sheila Churchward: We used to have it registered as an asset of community value, but we let it lapse a few years ago, and it's come up for sale now.

643
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01:03:03.460 --> 01:03:11.169
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Sheila Churchward: But the thing is that… with our… all the money we've had from the developments, the SIL money.

644
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01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:15.389
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Sheila Churchward: We've already allocated the money we've had so far.

645
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01:03:15.730 --> 01:03:19.790
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Sheila Churchward: So, we couldn't even purchase that.

646
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01:03:20.010 --> 01:03:32.140
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Sheila Churchward: Because we don't have enough money in the sill pot to do so, even… even though we would buy that area and develop it for, homes for the community.

647
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01:03:32.380 --> 01:03:33.720
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Sheila Churchward: If we did do it.

648
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01:03:33.910 --> 01:03:35.569
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Sheila Churchward: Because we thought about that.

649
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01:03:35.930 --> 01:03:36.720
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John Roberts: The ACV.

650
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01:03:36.720 --> 01:03:37.400
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Sheila Churchward: have the money.

651
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01:03:38.260 --> 01:03:45.250
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John Roberts: The ACV would give you a chance to raise money, even something like National Lottery or wherever.

652
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01:03:45.460 --> 01:03:47.040
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John Roberts: So that you can get grants.

653
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01:03:48.470 --> 01:03:59.019
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Sheila Churchward: There's only 7 of us. Well, there's actually… there's more now. There are 9 councillors at the moment, and we're up to our ears in work. And,

654
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01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.680
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Sheila Churchward: Two of the cancers are poorly.

655
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01:04:03.370 --> 01:04:13.610
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Sheila Churchward: One, as his own agenda, And, so there's only 6 of us actually doing the work.

656
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01:04:13.930 --> 01:04:16.480
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Sheila Churchward: And two of those are district councillors.

657
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01:04:18.200 --> 01:04:22.560
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John Roberts: Well, we're in a similar position. We have 9 councillors, but we've only got 7.

658
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01:04:23.100 --> 01:04:28.180
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John Roberts: And two of us, the chair and the vice chair.

659
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01:04:28.740 --> 01:04:33.909
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John Roberts: On Monday, we informed them that, come next year, we will not be counsellors.

660
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01:04:35.210 --> 01:04:37.290
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John Roberts: I've done the same. Like you. Like you.

661
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01:04:37.290 --> 01:04:37.920
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Sheila Churchward: Good on the same.

662
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01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:39.300
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John Roberts: Here to go. Yeah.

663
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01:04:39.650 --> 01:04:49.110
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Sheila Churchward: Because I look after planning, as well as three projects, and, and I look after environment and the…

664
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01:04:49.380 --> 01:04:59.769
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Sheila Churchward: climate change, And I do everything that comes along, you know, community engagement, Communicating with other, other parishes.

665
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01:05:00.550 --> 01:05:09.120
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Sheila Churchward: I try to keep the counsellors involved, but it is not working. And when I go next year, It's…

666
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01:05:10.170 --> 01:05:13.739
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Sheila Churchward: I'm prepared for it to fin- to change and to finish.

667
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01:05:14.070 --> 01:05:17.209
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Sheila Churchward: But there's certain things I'd like to continue on.

668
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01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.620
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Sheila Churchward: So… But.

669
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John Roberts: I…

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Sheila Churchward: I'm really, really upset about the Stowe, because it would have been lovely to have had that land and develop it for, you know, rental properties for young people.

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Sheila Churchward: Because we need it here.

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Andrew Clegg: I've got all this…

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Sheila Churchward: Housing, and the people can't afford it.

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Andrew Clegg: I think the problem is, Sheila, you sound as though you're too reliable. You should become a little bit less reliable in your sort of run-up to retirement.

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Sheila Churchward: So…

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Andrew Clegg: There's done on top.

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John Roberts: What answer to your dilemma?

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

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John Roberts: One answer to dilemma, Sheila, is to set up a working group for the things you're interested in.

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John Roberts: You can then resign from the council.

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

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John Roberts: A member of the working group.

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Andrew Clegg: And then eventually he resigned from the working group as well. That's what I've got as far.

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Sheila Churchward: Good luck.

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: Well, I've got… I plan to do that, but by the time… I don't want to be an 80-year-old.

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Sheila Churchward: Pension, counsellor.

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01:06:15.080 --> 01:06:15.770
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Sheila Churchward: So…

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Andrew Clegg: Nothing wrong with 80-year-old Councillors, Sheila.

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Sheila Churchward: Yes, but I'm tired.

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01:06:21.460 --> 01:06:22.849
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Sheila Churchward: I'm tired.

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Sheila Churchward: I've been doing it for 10 years, and I'm getting tired, and I would like to, you know, I've got 2 horses that are getting older, and a husband that's getting older.

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01:06:33.180 --> 01:06:35.240
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Sheila Churchward: I'd like to spend more time with all of them.

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John Roberts: I'm sorry, we've got away from Paris Online.

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01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:50.000
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Sheila Churchward: We have, sorry. Anyway, with par… the thing is, there's no point, is there, in me doing the copy over… over, so…

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John Roberts: I don't think so.

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Sheila Churchward: No.

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Stuart Bacon: You can, you can copy it over, because you haven't got, fields. If you scroll down back to the, the parish, to the neighborhood plan there.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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Stuart Bacon: And, try to add a new item to the important views and vistas.

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Sheila Churchward: Oops.

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Sheila Churchward: would add a feature… the feature, so…

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Stuart Bacon: Patreon, yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: Hmm.

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Stuart Bacon: That'll show you the categories and whatever there. If you'd got a different, sort of, set of,

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Stuart Bacon: Criteria than those 5 lines.

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Stuart Bacon: you wouldn't be able to transfer them. In terms of transferring them now… You… Still can't transfer them.

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Sheila Churchward: No.

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01:07:42.910 --> 01:07:43.940
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Stuart Bacon: Because then I don't…

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Sheila Churchward: own them.

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Stuart Bacon: What, no, you can't transfer into the neighbourhood layers, I don't think, unfortunately, but you can email…

712
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01:07:56.640 --> 01:07:58.580
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Stuart Bacon: Support at Parish Online.

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01:07:58.770 --> 01:08:08.449
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Stuart Bacon: And ask them to transfer it in, and they would transfer it for you into, the neighbourhood plan layers. So, even if it just duplicated them.

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Sheila Churchward: He knows.

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Stuart Bacon: They existed in both places.

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Sheila Churchward: Yeah.

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Sheila Churchward: That's awesome. You know, this is just such a lovely software. I use it quite a lot for giving people information.

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Sheila Churchward: And.

719
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Stuart Bacon: Oh, there's a huge wealth of detail in there, it's just not always in the…

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Stuart Bacon: The same layers that you're looking at, yeah.

721
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01:08:35.670 --> 01:08:39.180
\
John Roberts: The amount of information in Paris online is phenomenal.

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John Roberts: But like Stuart says, it's knowing where to look sometime.

723
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01:08:43.189 --> 01:08:43.979
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Andrew Clegg: Hmm.

724
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01:08:43.979 --> 01:08:44.569
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Sheila Churchward: Yes.

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01:08:44.969 --> 01:08:50.609
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Sheila Churchward: I don't think… the stuff I've done on here, you can't actually see…

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01:08:50.849 --> 01:08:56.439
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Sheila Churchward: But I'd… I look at… I do stuff for the church, on here.

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01:08:56.969 --> 01:09:06.029
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Sheila Churchward: And other groups, I do information for them and produce little plans and maps. It makes their lives a bit easier.

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John Roberts: No wonder you're wanting to stop.

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Andrew Clegg: Yeah, I got everybody who used Parish Online to put their initials against the title of the lair that they created.

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Sheila Churchward: Oh, that's a good idea.

731
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01:09:20.890 --> 01:09:21.689
\
Andrew Clegg: Yeah.

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01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:25.970
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John Roberts: I'm… I'm gonna have to leave you, folks, I'm sorry.

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01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:28.269
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Sheila Churchward: talk anyway.

734
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John Roberts: been interested. Thank you.

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Sheila Churchward: Thank you very much.

736
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01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:32.430
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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Before you go.

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01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:33.089
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Sheila Churchward: I didn't run anymore.

738
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01:09:33.090 --> 01:09:33.770
\
Andrew Clegg: Thank you.

739
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01:09:34.100 --> 01:09:34.640
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John Roberts: Thank you so much.

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01:09:34.899 --> 01:09:36.289
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Peter Bates - SSECAM: this before. John.

741
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01:09:36.290 --> 01:09:37.040
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Sheila Churchward: Bye-bye, then.

742
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01:09:37.040 --> 01:09:37.510
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Peter Bates - SSECAM: O.

743
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01:09:37.510 --> 01:09:37.910
\
John Roberts: Hang on.

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01:09:37.910 --> 01:09:47.569
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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Can I just ask, the asset of community, value, is that at district level, you apply, or at county level?

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01:09:47.979 --> 01:09:49.459
\
Sheila Churchward: district.

746
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\
John Roberts: In your case, if you… it would be district.

747
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01:09:53.859 --> 01:10:00.880
\
John Roberts: If it's a unitary authority, obviously it's county, but if you've got districts, then you would apply to the district.

748
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01:10:01.310 --> 01:10:03.019
\
Peter Bates - SSECAM: Yeah, to the planning authority.

749
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01:10:03.430 --> 01:10:03.910
\
John Roberts: Yeah.

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Peter Bates - SSECAM: Yeah, thanks. Brilliant. Thanks a lot. I hope it goes well.

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01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:10.499
\
Sheila Churchward: With ours, we have to put forward a business case as well.

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01:10:11.660 --> 01:10:13.019
\
John Roberts: We didn't have to do that.

753
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01:10:13.280 --> 01:10:20.450
\
Sheila Churchward: I know, but we have to… this… I looked at the Stowe Arms now, and we have to put forward a business case for it, too.

754
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01:10:21.030 --> 01:10:22.579
\
John Roberts: Is that because it's a pub?

755
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01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:28.010
\
Sheila Churchward: Possibly, I don't know, just land, isn't it?

756
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01:10:28.310 --> 01:10:31.360
\
John Roberts: Because I know, I mean, we haven't with… I mean, we've put a…

757
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01:10:31.470 --> 01:10:34.690
\
John Roberts: We've even got an ACV on our local doctor's surgery.

758
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01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:37.970
\
John Roberts: But we didn't put a business case in for that.

759
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01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:45.309
\
Sheila Churchward: Well, we have to say how… we have to put forward a business case. How much is going to cost?

760
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01:10:45.310 --> 01:10:45.890
\
Stuart Bacon: additional cash.

761
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01:10:45.890 --> 01:10:46.500
\
Sheila Churchward: the value.

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01:10:46.500 --> 01:10:47.390
\
Stuart Bacon: criteria.

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\
John Roberts: Yeah, it is, yeah, it is.

764
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01:10:49.740 --> 01:10:51.660
\
John Roberts: Anyway, I have to go, I'm sorry.

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01:10:52.710 --> 01:10:53.140
\
Andrew Clegg: Bye-bye.

766
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\
John Roberts: See you next week.

767
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01:10:53.580 --> 01:10:57.670
\
Sheila Churchward: Nice to meet, see you all. I'll see you again next time.

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01:10:58.100 --> 01:11:05.820
\
Peter Bates - SSECAM: Thanks a lot, everybody, that was great, very useful from my point of view. Sorry I hogged it a lot of the time.

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\
Andrew Clegg: Okay, bye.

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