250404 04Apr25 session 25-14
Videos as attachments (use links instead), main menu bar, Allotments, Using multiple layers as visual tools, National Stats collection, Water Networks, Flooding, Tithe Maps, Council Data, Styling
Video Timeline:
00:00 - 07:20 Videos as attachments (use links instead) 07:20 - 09:45 Shrink the main menu bar? - No 09:45 -19:40 Allotments 19:40 - 32:00 Using multiple layers as visual tools - per Stoke Mandeville, home of many developments around HS2 32:00 - 34:26 Banter 34:26 - 54:50 National Stats collection - EV chargers in Property Points (private chargers only), Precepts-Band D, Water Networks - Nodes and Watercourses, Flooding, Tithe Maps, buried ditches 54:50 - 56:50 Council Data in new Knowledgebase (resolved) 56:50 - 64:27 (end) Amend the order of records in Styling (now resolved)
Presentation:
This presentation covers much of the ground that Angie demonstrated in the "Using multiple layers as visual tools" section of the video above. Basically, it covers how to use Parish Online to create the visual aids necessary to explain to interested parties what is going on where, and how it all ties together when viewed in entirety - ie lots of individual layers tying together to give the big picture. A huge thank you to Angie Bamford for this.
And just to give you some idea of the scale of all this work:
Chat:
01:18:33 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Thanks, great session but have to go. 01:19:46 Kirsten Newble - Cambridge: Thank you very much. I'll be sending this to others
Late news: Richard Wand has found a way to amend the order of records in Styling: see his file below
More late news: Geoxphere has responded to a ticket asking about the "EV Chargers" layer in the National Maps - Net Zero" collection. This is intended for private EV chargers only, and therefore expects them to be attached to Property Points (ie home addresses). Not for public chargers on streets or in parking lots. Here is a guide to how to enter data therein: EV Chargers
Speech-to-text:
44 00:03:54.950 --> 00:03:57.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, don't hold back here, and off you go
45 00:03:58.870 --> 00:04:05.300 Kieran Watson: Well, it's just the kind of being able to link the
46 00:04:06.790 --> 00:04:13.120 Kieran Watson: the needs in the community and being able to connect with residents
47 00:04:13.470 --> 00:04:13.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup!
48 00:04:13.880 --> 00:04:18.979 Kieran Watson: So so, for instance, I'm quite keen to to do kind of films.
49 00:04:19.450 --> 00:04:24.469 Kieran Watson: photos, and to kind of news article about
50 00:04:24.770 --> 00:04:30.080 Kieran Watson: that kind of specific area of interest and
51 00:04:30.280 --> 00:04:34.639 Kieran Watson: kind of. We went through it a little bit last night, but kind of felt that.
52 00:04:36.213 --> 00:04:41.359 Kieran Watson: There's no direct place where you can drop that kind of video, or
53 00:04:42.300 --> 00:04:45.999 Kieran Watson: I just wondered whether that's your experience.
54 00:04:47.100 --> 00:04:50.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Tell you the truth, I've never even tried adding a video. Anyone done that
55 00:04:51.140 --> 00:04:51.610 chris edwards: No.
56 00:04:51.610 --> 00:04:52.439 David Newman: Let's see.
57 00:04:52.440 --> 00:04:54.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Well, maybe it's worth
58 00:04:55.060 --> 00:04:58.715 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bring it a a go to see if we can do that.
59 00:04:59.670 --> 00:05:02.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: let me just say good afternoon to people joining
60 00:05:06.880 --> 00:05:10.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so hello to Adrian, in whichever part of the world Adrian's in
61 00:05:10.976 --> 00:05:12.840 Adrienne Begent: Kent, Fabishop in Kent.
62 00:05:13.280 --> 00:05:18.636 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I no point in asking where Angie is. We all know where Angie is
63 00:05:19.140 --> 00:05:20.130 Adrienne Begent: I don't
64 00:05:20.470 --> 00:05:25.350 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, Angie, is our permanent resident on Hs. 2 in
65 00:05:25.350 --> 00:05:25.980 Adrienne Begent: All right.
66 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:33.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Aylesbury sort of area, and is able to get to see us every time we have a holiday.
67 00:05:35.860 --> 00:05:37.350 Angie Bamford: The holidays.
68 00:05:37.350 --> 00:05:38.909 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. Yeah.
69 00:05:39.500 --> 00:05:40.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Afternoon. Malcolm
70 00:05:41.784 --> 00:05:42.620 Malcolm Daniels: Afternoon.
71 00:05:42.620 --> 00:05:43.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nice to see you
72 00:05:44.468 --> 00:05:47.899 Malcolm Daniels: I might have to leave at any time
73 00:05:47.900 --> 00:05:48.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
74 00:05:49.725 --> 00:05:58.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: we've got semi apologies from Andrew, who hopes to be here. But he's racing back from hospital. So we're not quite sure
75 00:05:58.620 --> 00:05:59.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: when he'll make it.
76 00:06:02.290 --> 00:06:09.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Adrian, I know that Kieran has got some specific questions. Can I just check whether you've got anything you would like to be asking, particularly
77 00:06:09.050 --> 00:06:10.590 Adrienne Begent: Not particularly no.
78 00:06:11.410 --> 00:06:14.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And how familiar are you with parish online
79 00:06:15.565 --> 00:06:21.260 Adrienne Begent: Yeah, we use it quite a lot of plans. We used it for sites, and that
80 00:06:21.260 --> 00:06:21.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
81 00:06:21.770 --> 00:06:30.250 Adrienne Begent: We have just taken over allotment, so I haven't started. But I'd be quite interested to know how you, if that's how that works.
82 00:06:30.250 --> 00:06:32.199 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup, yeah, we can do that.
83 00:06:32.200 --> 00:06:38.330 Adrienne Begent: Yeah, I mean, I use it a lot just for finding out pedestril parcel numbers. That's what we use it a lot for
84 00:06:38.880 --> 00:06:40.710 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, he's very useful for that.
85 00:06:40.710 --> 00:06:44.050 Adrienne Begent: Yeah. And we have started listing out assets on it.
86 00:06:45.050 --> 00:06:45.620 Adrienne Begent: Oh.
87 00:06:45.620 --> 00:06:46.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
88 00:06:47.455 --> 00:06:53.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Angie, have you ever tried attaching a video to a parish online record?
89 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:55.599 Angie Bamford: Not a video, no pictures. Still pictures.
90 00:06:56.380 --> 00:06:59.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Are you in a position where you'd like to try it?
91 00:06:59.950 --> 00:07:02.221 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm not part of it anymore.
92 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:04.259 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You not even have access any longer.
93 00:07:04.260 --> 00:07:06.193 Angie Bamford: Yeah, I've got access still.
94 00:07:07.080 --> 00:07:11.410 Angie Bamford: but we're still waiting for the neighborhood plan to be approved
95 00:07:12.470 --> 00:07:19.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, well, let me just boringly share my screen. Briefly, we're gonna try Karen's request about oops. Not quite sure why we're there.
96 00:07:19.320 --> 00:07:22.349 Angie Bamford: Yeah, I've still got access to every the normal layers and everything
97 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:28.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay here we go.
98 00:07:28.880 --> 00:07:33.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So let me just choose any old layer. I got it
99 00:07:33.520 --> 00:07:35.779 chris edwards: A Tesla here somewhere there. That'll do.
100 00:07:53.630 --> 00:07:56.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hello, Luke, let's go for there
101 00:08:02.530 --> 00:08:04.240 Graham Stoddart-Stones: really want to do that one
102 00:08:04.420 --> 00:08:06.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: right? Let's just have a new one.
103 00:08:26.830 --> 00:08:30.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I just added it any old point, Karen.
104 00:08:30.370 --> 00:08:38.209 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and this is all just for trial now, because I've not ever tried this before. So I'm going to go in and add an attachment
105 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:41.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and find some sort of movie from somewhere.
106 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:46.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What we got.
107 00:08:47.110 --> 00:08:49.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, there's even one there, actually, now, I think about it.
108 00:08:53.220 --> 00:08:55.159 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nope doesn't like it, does it?
109 00:08:55.230 --> 00:08:56.010 Kieran Watson: No.
110 00:09:00.849 --> 00:09:04.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Would you be able? Would I be able to set up a link instead?
111 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.629 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, absolutely. Let me just try this out of interest.
112 00:09:15.050 --> 00:09:17.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just try.
113 00:09:17.650 --> 00:09:19.160 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Didn't like that, did it?
114 00:09:31.350 --> 00:09:42.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, it doesn't look like we could like a video directly. But there's no problem at all in putting a link to wherever you've got the video stored. Whether it's a Youtube is a good place.
115 00:09:43.886 --> 00:09:47.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I put Youtube links into parish online all the time.
116 00:09:47.950 --> 00:09:51.123 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that was one certain answer for you.
117 00:09:51.520 --> 00:09:53.739 Kieran Watson: And just following up that
118 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:56.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's now makes it a lot more clearer
119 00:09:56.330 --> 00:10:00.567 Kieran Watson: I just wonder whether in regards to
120 00:10:01.540 --> 00:10:03.839 Kieran Watson: putting a film on there a link
121 00:10:04.680 --> 00:10:08.020 Kieran Watson: do we need to as a parish council?
122 00:10:08.728 --> 00:10:13.769 Kieran Watson: Have our own Youtube, so that it can't be any or
123 00:10:15.180 --> 00:10:19.570 Kieran Watson: the only ones that go on there are authorized by the Parish Council
124 00:10:20.370 --> 00:10:34.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, you can certainly set it up. So that in your Youtube channel you have you videos that are not open to the public. So you can. Only people with the link can open them.
125 00:10:34.950 --> 00:10:45.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And and that means that if they go into your record in parish online, and they go onto the link, they'll be allowed to see it, but nobody else will. So that's I think, that solves your problem.
126 00:10:46.130 --> 00:10:56.229 Kieran Watson: We do have a very Finnicle clerk who's very particular about being able to manage
127 00:10:56.470 --> 00:11:00.279 Kieran Watson: the flow of information. I don't know how David
128 00:11:00.899 --> 00:11:06.589 David Newman: We, we've actually got Google account. So we can set up our own Youtube channel
129 00:11:07.730 --> 00:11:09.569 Kieran Watson: So that's that's quite clear. Then
130 00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:14.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so that would certainly resolve your problem of adding videos.
131 00:11:15.460 --> 00:11:23.010 Kieran Watson: There was one other question that arose last night, and if anyone else wants to go, I don't know if you want to.
132 00:11:23.610 --> 00:11:28.829 Kieran Watson: Folks on any other in the in in your group. But my question.
133 00:11:29.719 --> 00:11:40.210 Kieran Watson: that was, how could can we? The the bar that comes up with the options.
134 00:11:41.380 --> 00:11:50.050 Kieran Watson: Can we make that toolbar smaller so that it isn't so overwhelming, so
135 00:11:50.530 --> 00:11:55.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Reading the main screen. The menu items along the top
136 00:11:55.050 --> 00:11:55.590 Kieran Watson: Yeah.
137 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.539 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And not that I'm aware of
138 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:04.169 Kieran Watson: It's just that. I think people look at it, and as we start up
139 00:12:04.610 --> 00:12:12.390 Kieran Watson: David loves it he can't stop stop putting his finger on the mouse, but other people see it as quite a
140 00:12:12.810 --> 00:12:15.209 Kieran Watson: overload, and they tend to be
141 00:12:15.530 --> 00:12:18.579 Kieran Watson: kind of. I just wonder whether it'd be simplified
142 00:12:20.690 --> 00:12:26.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are these people that you want to actually add and edit stuff? Or just look at stuff
143 00:12:26.660 --> 00:12:27.930 Kieran Watson: To add an edit
144 00:12:28.310 --> 00:12:32.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? So I think no, is the answer to your question. The
145 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:38.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you can't change the the size of the the toolbar
146 00:12:38.880 --> 00:12:39.410 Kieran Watson: Gosh!
147 00:12:39.410 --> 00:12:40.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, we don't have that
148 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:40.450 Kieran Watson: That'll be
149 00:12:40.450 --> 00:12:41.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Control over the system
150 00:12:41.500 --> 00:12:48.929 Kieran Watson: The alternative is that we instruct, which are the main ones to focus on.
151 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:54.970 Kieran Watson: Say that it gives people a bit of direction so they can home in on that
152 00:12:55.640 --> 00:13:08.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, truth to tell, the vast majority of things that people want to do in parish online are done through a mini menu on the layers, so you don't need to touch the upper line at all for much of the stuff.
153 00:13:08.610 --> 00:13:21.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I mean, there are tools up there that you can use when you're looking to make specific measurements or or things like that. But otherwise I think most of what you want to do is in the mini menus that come up when you right click on a layer
154 00:13:22.470 --> 00:13:29.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that might be a good teaching point for you to suggest that they concentrate on those rather than
155 00:13:29.590 --> 00:13:30.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the stuff at the top
156 00:13:31.680 --> 00:13:33.030 Kieran Watson: Okay. Thank you.
157 00:13:33.850 --> 00:13:40.729 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's move on to Adrian. And is it cemeteries you said you were in? Hi, Bob, I just come, and Stuart
158 00:13:40.730 --> 00:13:42.710 Bob Grainger: Hi! Graham! Everybody
159 00:13:42.930 --> 00:13:49.609 Adrienne Begent: And is, we've just taken over allotment. So I've sort of thinking about whether to use the allotment layer for them.
160 00:13:49.610 --> 00:13:52.669 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup. So let's just show you that.
161 00:13:54.660 --> 00:13:58.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't know why I moved off where I was. I was doing quite well with that
162 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:04.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones: here we go. So in your allotments, layer
163 00:14:04.920 --> 00:14:05.810 Adrienne Begent: Yeah.
164 00:14:06.560 --> 00:14:08.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Which is down here.
165 00:14:09.550 --> 00:14:12.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You have 2 options. There's the boundaries. Which do you want
166 00:14:12.950 --> 00:14:17.770 Adrienne Begent: Probably going to come up with answers. Anyway, you've probably got allotment showing.
167 00:14:18.300 --> 00:14:24.039 Adrienne Begent: Yeah. But what's missing is the information on the individual plots?
168 00:14:24.040 --> 00:14:24.390 Adrienne Begent: Yep.
169 00:14:24.390 --> 00:14:37.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So there's a big difference between these 2. So boundaries are what's called a collaborative layer, so that everybody else in the country can see the allotment boundaries, and they can see the answers to the questions that get asked
170 00:14:38.100 --> 00:14:44.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: here. So who owns the land? What sort of land is it whether you have
171 00:14:44.690 --> 00:14:54.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: fences, waters, vehicle, access, that sort of thing type. Those are all sort of generalized questions that there's nothing personal about them, and everybody can see those
172 00:14:54.470 --> 00:14:55.030 Adrienne Begent: Okay.
173 00:14:55.030 --> 00:14:58.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But when you go into individual plots.
174 00:14:58.410 --> 00:15:03.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: then that is, counts as a parish lair, and only people in your parish can see it.
175 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:11.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if I I'm better off, actually going to a different site, aren't I for this? Just because I happen to know
176 00:15:13.340 --> 00:15:14.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: bear with me a second.
177 00:15:21.980 --> 00:15:24.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I just happen to know we have allotments here.
178 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:44.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So here are allotments in this particular village, and they're not allocated in terms of pots. They're just used as fields for grazing and generating hay, that sort of thing.
179 00:15:45.060 --> 00:16:05.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Incidentally out of interest. This one is just being allocated to the environmental group to go ahead and turn it into a an area of anything to help biodiversity. So they're going to put a pond in there. They're going to plant trees. They're going to plant seeds. They're going to put walkways, everything to keep people interested. But anyway, let's suppose you wanted to put
180 00:16:08.220 --> 00:16:13.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: boundaries on here. I say, I'm sorry I'm better off going a bit further afield to here
181 00:16:17.020 --> 00:16:23.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and assuming in a bit. So here's the allotment gardens. That you're seeing as the boundary layers
182 00:16:24.580 --> 00:16:27.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you turn on the aerial photography.
183 00:16:28.090 --> 00:16:32.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you get a much better idea of what the individual plots are.
184 00:16:32.230 --> 00:16:37.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if I were to just tone down the map information for a bit.
185 00:16:38.070 --> 00:16:42.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you go to pure photographs. And now you can zoom in
186 00:16:43.090 --> 00:16:52.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you see all the individual plots. So when you want to start mapping them, it's a piece of cake to come down here
187 00:16:52.510 --> 00:16:56.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones: to your plots and add a feature.
188 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:02.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you can now just draw around any one of these allotments to get them
189 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: there. And it's it's it's very quick to do it from the photograph
190 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:13.979 Adrienne Begent: Okay, yeah, no, that. So, owls, we've just been given the land, and we've just laid them out ourselves. So they're not going to be in photographs, are they
191 00:17:14.550 --> 00:17:17.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, but are they in nice straight lines, and so forth?
192 00:17:18.109 --> 00:17:21.769 Adrienne Begent: Yeah, they are actually. So it's just a case of drawing them on, is it
193 00:17:22.270 --> 00:17:27.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, it is. But what you can do just again. To make life simple for yourself
194 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:36.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: is, you can say, let's turn off the or turn on a line layer. So if you happen to have a line layer or you can create one.
195 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:38.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think I've got one down here somewhere.
196 00:17:39.310 --> 00:17:40.520 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, a line.
197 00:17:40.760 --> 00:17:49.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you can say, let's just suppose your lines run east, west, and north, south. What you can do is just add a line and say, there's
198 00:17:50.470 --> 00:17:51.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: align.
199 00:17:52.030 --> 00:17:53.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right away we go. We've lost it
200 00:18:02.210 --> 00:18:07.059 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so I can say, I'm gonna start on our here and do that.
201 00:18:07.330 --> 00:18:10.174 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then let's just say the other line.
202 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:15.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you save save that one, give it a name.
203 00:18:18.810 --> 00:18:25.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and then do another line down the next path in the same way, so we can say this is Joe.
204 00:18:25.970 --> 00:18:29.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and Joe runs from here to here.
205 00:18:31.380 --> 00:18:37.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's all right. Let's just say that, and
206 00:18:37.470 --> 00:18:38.120 Adrienne Begent: Actually
207 00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:40.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Then it becomes an easy to do plots through there
208 00:18:40.870 --> 00:18:41.569 Adrienne Begent: Bye, bye.
209 00:18:41.570 --> 00:18:44.509 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Is it? Are you familiar with the rectangular option
210 00:18:44.510 --> 00:18:45.320 Adrienne Begent: No.
211 00:18:45.320 --> 00:18:49.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. So let me just mention that to you. In passing we come down to allotment plots.
212 00:18:50.750 --> 00:18:52.789 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you want to add a feature
213 00:18:53.380 --> 00:18:57.049 Graham Stoddart-Stones: like that. Then up here you've got a rectangle.
214 00:18:57.450 --> 00:19:07.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you can say, how big do you want it? So if you know what plots you're going to get you can put in the size. I mean, this happens to be a football field, but we can come off something to down to.
215 00:19:07.730 --> 00:19:11.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Presumably it's going to be a bit larger than a symmetry plot
216 00:19:11.860 --> 00:19:12.730 Adrienne Begent: Hope, so
217 00:19:12.730 --> 00:19:21.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But but you can just say, let's go for a marquee. That's 6 meters by 6 meters. That might be a standard sort of it, or you can change whatever you like
218 00:19:21.870 --> 00:19:22.370 Adrienne Begent: Yeah.
219 00:19:22.370 --> 00:19:24.880 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then, when the time comes to add it.
220 00:19:25.330 --> 00:19:32.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you just draw it on. Sorry. Let's go see, let's give it a name.
221 00:19:48.290 --> 00:20:01.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've lost it. There we go. Sorry. So you get the square that you've asked for, and then you can just move it around to where it fits in between your legs, and you can say it needs to be a bit more diagonal. So we'll go that way.
222 00:20:01.790 --> 00:20:03.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's 1.
223 00:20:03.430 --> 00:20:04.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So that's good
224 00:20:04.280 --> 00:20:05.310 Adrienne Begent: Okay. Yeah.
225 00:20:05.310 --> 00:20:06.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go on and do another one.
226 00:20:06.990 --> 00:20:22.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so you can get all your plots in quite quickly and have the system do it for, particularly if you've got nicely laid out in a uniform way, you just find the right size for your rectangle, for height and width, and off you go. It'll do them all in for you between the lines
227 00:20:22.490 --> 00:20:28.940 Adrienne Begent: Excellent, and then I can upload con mooring not mooring allotment agreements to those as well
228 00:20:28.940 --> 00:20:31.909 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yes, you can add those as an attachment to each one
229 00:20:31.910 --> 00:20:33.769 Adrienne Begent: Excellent. Okay, that makes sense. Now.
230 00:20:34.149 --> 00:20:40.980 Bob Grainger: Do you have a drawing of the site? Is is the boundaries on the site at the moment
231 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:43.649 Bob Grainger: derived from drawings that were made
232 00:20:45.774 --> 00:20:50.459 Adrienne Begent: We've been given a whole lot of land, and we've set it out ourselves.
233 00:20:50.460 --> 00:21:00.569 Bob Grainger: Okay? No? I asked, because because I've done something similar for us. We had a large area of allotments, has been completely redeveloped, worked over.
234 00:21:00.800 --> 00:21:07.230 Bob Grainger: cultivated, and then relayed out in different different plots, quarter half, and full plots in
235 00:21:07.860 --> 00:21:14.430 Bob Grainger: a completely new layout. But it was derived from an architect's drawing of the developer's drawing.
236 00:21:14.630 --> 00:21:24.170 Bob Grainger: and the way I did it, rather than following Graham. Graham's way works very well, but I took the drawing that we got to say, this is what the plot layout is.
237 00:21:24.300 --> 00:21:25.450 Bob Grainger: I then
238 00:21:25.973 --> 00:21:38.009 Bob Grainger: scanned it and printed it onto a PIN piece of transparent acetate, and then put it on the screen and and then enlarged the parish online layout to fit the exact size that we've got.
239 00:21:38.710 --> 00:21:42.319 Bob Grainger: and then and then drew in parish online to match the drawing
240 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:44.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Must be a huge time saver, Bob. I should think
241 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:47.510 Bob Grainger: It was. It was a fantastic time saver, because
242 00:21:47.804 --> 00:21:48.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
243 00:21:48.100 --> 00:21:56.109 Bob Grainger: And not only that, it gave me all the buildings, the water stopcocks, the roads, and everything, so I just overdrew in different colors, etc.
244 00:21:56.360 --> 00:22:03.820 Bob Grainger: and when you get when you get something like a hundred plots, it's much, much easier just to trace them like that, using the acetate as a guide
245 00:22:04.060 --> 00:22:06.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you happen to have an example, Bob, that you can show us
246 00:22:06.820 --> 00:22:07.749 Bob Grainger: I don't available
247 00:22:07.750 --> 00:22:10.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What it looks like. At the moment that was
248 00:22:10.540 --> 00:22:15.739 Adrienne Begent: We've got one lot of allotments that last time I went looked weren't actually on the allotment layer
249 00:22:16.690 --> 00:22:24.820 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, it's highly possible. The information on the allotments comes originally from the National Allotment Society God.
250 00:22:24.820 --> 00:22:45.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They openly admit that a lot of their information will be out of date. They will have some allotments listed there that don't exist any longer. They've been built over, and they'll have some that have been created that they don't recognize at all. So the fact that they're not on your parish online is just purely a fact of history.
251 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:47.409 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, okay, then, all right. Thank you.
252 00:22:49.540 --> 00:22:51.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. Oh, the
253 00:22:51.070 --> 00:22:53.630 Stuart Council: You can add them in at any point in the future.
254 00:22:55.020 --> 00:22:57.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm sorry, Stuart. I overspoke you. There. What were you saying?
255 00:22:58.010 --> 00:23:07.090 Stuart Council: I was saying you you can add those missing allotments into the allotment plots layer when you if you're ready to.
256 00:23:07.420 --> 00:23:09.639 Stuart Council: there's no restriction on that
257 00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:15.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No? Exactly. Well, you can put them into the the Boundaries layer first, st so that they show up to everybody, and then
258 00:23:15.190 --> 00:23:16.399 Adrienne Begent: Alright. Okay. That makes sense.
259 00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:21.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And the boss you. You really need to have the boundaries 1st before you start adding plots to them
260 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:26.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: just to add limits to where you're going. Really.
261 00:23:27.710 --> 00:23:32.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones: do we have any other specific questions that people would like answered
262 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:36.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so
263 00:23:36.900 --> 00:23:39.039 Bob Grainger: What? What is the meaning of the universe?
264 00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:45.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It was 42. Come on, Angie.
265 00:23:45.390 --> 00:23:50.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I sent you an email this morning, which I haven't seen, whether you even noticed or replied to.
266 00:23:52.300 --> 00:23:54.170 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, we're at, but it it
267 00:23:54.170 --> 00:23:57.129 Angie Bamford: Want to make my maps public, or something
268 00:23:57.500 --> 00:23:58.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Did. Yes, because
269 00:23:58.750 --> 00:24:00.330 Angie Bamford: Sure what you wanted really.
270 00:24:00.470 --> 00:24:01.190 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
271 00:24:01.360 --> 00:24:13.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones: if you can go, take over the screen now and show us a typical Aylesbury famous for its lines, its gorgeousness.
272 00:24:14.950 --> 00:24:17.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm not building you up for anything. Angie.
273 00:24:19.950 --> 00:24:21.330 Angie Bamford: You wanna see my Max
274 00:24:21.330 --> 00:24:21.985 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
275 00:24:23.660 --> 00:24:34.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you throw in some of those layers of yours to show people what the developments are around you and the roads that are being built, and that sort of thing
276 00:24:34.110 --> 00:24:38.820 Angie Bamford: He's a state mandible in Buckinghamshire. This is where it currently is. So all the
277 00:24:39.390 --> 00:24:45.299 Angie Bamford: houses, obviously here, here, here, big open spaces, big open spaces.
278 00:24:45.670 --> 00:24:46.710 Angie Bamford: We've got
279 00:24:48.250 --> 00:24:56.950 Angie Bamford: the original neighbourhoods, which is the village, Stoke Grange, Stokelys, and Hawkslade, which basically are extensions of Aylesbury
280 00:24:57.340 --> 00:25:00.679 Angie Bamford: and the additional ones that are being built at the moment.
281 00:25:01.220 --> 00:25:05.536 Angie Bamford: This is a developments going on at the moment, and then
282 00:25:06.930 --> 00:25:15.600 Angie Bamford: What we got is the sale of Alesbury local plan coming in, and they want to build more houses.
283 00:25:15.760 --> 00:25:21.529 Angie Bamford: so they want agt. This is as we garden town development area, all of that
284 00:25:22.550 --> 00:25:25.849 Angie Bamford: to be houses, and they want hgt, 2,
285 00:25:26.070 --> 00:25:28.160 Angie Bamford: all of that to be houses.
286 00:25:32.530 --> 00:25:35.639 Angie Bamford: Then we also got down
287 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:41.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You got some bypasses and roads going in
288 00:25:41.420 --> 00:25:44.509 Angie Bamford: Oh, yeah, yeah. But there's an actual manor. Homes want to go down there
289 00:25:45.610 --> 00:25:59.080 Angie Bamford: so that yeah, we've got all sorts of things coming up. So we've got green buffer coming in. So our neighborhood plan wants a green buffer in between the existing village housing and the new housing.
290 00:25:59.613 --> 00:26:03.450 Angie Bamford: We always a garden way, was proposed to go from
291 00:26:03.930 --> 00:26:07.460 Angie Bamford: east to west, west to east, so people can walk through the parish.
292 00:26:07.850 --> 00:26:12.710 Angie Bamford: Oh, here comes Hs. 2 is going to go through as well straight through the parish.
293 00:26:14.266 --> 00:26:19.899 Angie Bamford: there is also a southeast Link Road coming through.
294 00:26:20.370 --> 00:26:24.180 Angie Bamford: and the bypass to come through that as well. Going up, going down.
295 00:26:28.790 --> 00:26:31.695 Angie Bamford: I've done the bypass, haven't they?
296 00:26:33.560 --> 00:26:42.209 Angie Bamford: but we've got the care community retirement one as well. That's down the bottom retirement. Place. What else we got?
297 00:26:44.590 --> 00:26:49.869 Angie Bamford: but most importantly, if I could take it, take that all off. But 1st one we did was the landowners map.
298 00:26:50.890 --> 00:26:53.750 Angie Bamford: So we map every single piece of land
299 00:26:54.540 --> 00:26:56.779 Angie Bamford: through the parish, so we can find out
300 00:26:57.750 --> 00:27:00.501 Angie Bamford: who belong who who owns it.
301 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:07.290 Angie Bamford: And we've done the land registry as well with with all the different bits and pieces in there
302 00:27:10.220 --> 00:27:12.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So before you take anything off, Angie
303 00:27:12.980 --> 00:27:13.280 Angie Bamford: Yup!
304 00:27:13.580 --> 00:27:16.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Can we create a public map of all of this?
305 00:27:16.470 --> 00:27:24.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And can you select it so the layers don't show up to start with, but people can turn them on when they want to
306 00:27:26.760 --> 00:27:29.010 Angie Bamford: You want a built up, built up, built up.
307 00:27:29.470 --> 00:27:30.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. Yes.
308 00:27:30.390 --> 00:27:32.380 Angie Bamford: The Tree preservation Orders as well
309 00:27:32.380 --> 00:27:35.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, even better. Yep, put them all in there
310 00:27:35.230 --> 00:27:38.360 Angie Bamford: But we got charging points I've put in.
311 00:27:41.910 --> 00:27:46.502 Angie Bamford: Oh, entry signs as well. If you come into the bench
312 00:27:47.810 --> 00:27:49.270 chris edwards: How's the airport going
313 00:27:49.597 --> 00:27:58.102 Angie Bamford: Makes me laugh is the entry point to Stoke. Mandible is here when it should be down here. But that's that's the way it is
314 00:27:59.300 --> 00:28:03.559 Angie Bamford: don't see the railway crossings, railway lines.
315 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:10.000 Angie Bamford: Yeah, we got all sorts of things going on 8
316 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:15.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So basically, what we started with was an area that was virtually empty
317 00:28:15.320 --> 00:28:15.655 Angie Bamford: Yep.
318 00:28:15.990 --> 00:28:22.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And now we've got the development that shows you quadrupled in your population in no time at all.
319 00:28:22.690 --> 00:28:26.270 Retired Clerk: You ought to put a moat around it.
320 00:28:27.520 --> 00:28:29.610 Angie Bamford: Listed buildings, as well
321 00:28:29.610 --> 00:28:31.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Man with a castle in his village
322 00:28:31.900 --> 00:28:34.789 Angie Bamford: Holistic buildings or green spaces we can have.
323 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:40.470 Angie Bamford: There's like green spaces, not a lot of green spaces. But there you go, the green spaces as well
324 00:28:40.470 --> 00:28:44.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So. So now you've demonstrated how you can use the system.
325 00:28:44.740 --> 00:28:58.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What I'd like to do for everybody on the call is if we can just go ahead and create a public map of this, and then I can use that as future reference for anybody that is interested in what on earth can you do with parish online and public mapping
326 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:01.250 Angie Bamford: Yep.
327 00:29:01.250 --> 00:29:02.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So.
328 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:08.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do you need anyone to walk you through doing a public map? Are you quite happy to generate it as we go
329 00:29:09.540 --> 00:29:12.420 Angie Bamford: I suppose I'd better get permission first.st
330 00:29:12.420 --> 00:29:14.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right? Yes, okay.
331 00:29:15.010 --> 00:29:27.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But now you see the gist of what I'd love to be able to to do. Angie, you can produce that as a URL, which I can then just refer to as necessary. It would be fantastic.
332 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:30.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and we can turn the layers on and off as we require
333 00:29:30.870 --> 00:29:33.426 Angie Bamford: Business centers. Let's put them on as well. Yeah.
334 00:29:35.030 --> 00:29:36.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That way. You'll get permission, won't you?
335 00:29:36.980 --> 00:29:38.340 Angie Bamford: Yeah, yeah, okay.
336 00:29:39.620 --> 00:29:41.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That'd be tremendous. Thank you.
337 00:29:41.130 --> 00:29:42.449 Angie Bamford: Alright! Should I stop sharing
338 00:29:42.710 --> 00:29:48.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. So there's just the aficionado of use of parish online for development.
339 00:29:49.410 --> 00:29:52.150 Angie Bamford: Yeah, it's it's very, very good, because
340 00:29:53.600 --> 00:30:05.619 Angie Bamford: it's a it's a gradual thing, you see, for for us, for the Neighborhood plan. We couldn't go to anyone like inspectors, or whatever to say. We don't want that. Your planning
341 00:30:06.030 --> 00:30:17.440 Angie Bamford: 2,000 houses there, and they'll say, Why not? And we say, well, the land is owned by such and such, and they graze cattle on it. And so you. You build up an idea of
342 00:30:17.950 --> 00:30:22.450 Angie Bamford: your argument, if you like before you oppose something.
343 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:23.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
344 00:30:23.750 --> 00:30:27.450 Angie Bamford: We just get all the information. That was the whole idea of it.
345 00:30:29.590 --> 00:30:30.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank you very much for that
346 00:30:30.830 --> 00:30:31.900 Angie Bamford: They will, too.
347 00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:33.999 Kieran Watson: Can I ask a quick question? Please.
348 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:35.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Go for it, Karen
349 00:30:35.550 --> 00:30:43.180 Kieran Watson: And the process of doing this is, it seems that there's a lot of work that's gone into it. I just wonder how long that has taken
350 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:44.159 Malcolm Daniels: But
351 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.863 Angie Bamford: Okay he is.
352 00:30:48.940 --> 00:30:58.880 Angie Bamford: Yes, but there's only me. There was only me doing it to be fair, and that was I was. That wasn't a full time job. It was like 20 HA week, or something doing that
353 00:30:59.080 --> 00:31:05.310 Kieran Watson: It's an amazing formula. If you could bottle it and sell it, I'm sure you'd make a fortune
354 00:31:09.148 --> 00:31:22.430 Angie Bamford: It's just we we needed to get. I mean, I did a presentation for for Grant owner is that a year ago, Graham, as the whole concept of from start to finish, of how we do things and how we've done things.
355 00:31:22.961 --> 00:31:25.018 Angie Bamford: To get where we are.
356 00:31:25.630 --> 00:31:38.845 Angie Bamford: because that dreaded. Hs 2 is coming straight through the parish and taking a lot of land. They're doing a lot. Well. They have done the land grab not just the the line itself, the the land either side of the line.
357 00:31:39.270 --> 00:31:41.690 Angie Bamford: stating ripping up everything. And
358 00:31:43.010 --> 00:31:47.459 Angie Bamford: yeah, it wasn't good. We had to find out the information
359 00:31:48.410 --> 00:32:10.007 Angie Bamford: from from the landowners themselves, and we had lots and lots of meetings with them to say, you know, this is the impact it's going to have with the development of all the new houses, and obviously the Hs. 2 and the Link roads and the bypasses all going through. So we had lots of consultations with the landowners and with businesses and with everyone that is involved. That's
360 00:32:10.840 --> 00:32:15.639 Angie Bamford: you know, even in like the pubs. Anything that's that's in the village that
361 00:32:16.070 --> 00:32:18.170 Angie Bamford: we'd had meetings with, and
362 00:32:18.770 --> 00:32:26.459 Angie Bamford: you know, to try and get their point of view as well as our point of view. So we wanted to put what's best for the neighborhood, for the community in our neighborhood plan.
363 00:32:29.090 --> 00:32:32.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just say good afternoon to Andrew. Congratulations for making it
364 00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:41.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and going back to Kieran. I think the answer really to your question is, it doesn't take more than a minute or so to add a new feature.
365 00:32:41.630 --> 00:32:53.879 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but when you add them all over a period of time, as the developments come through and so forth, then it becomes overall. It's been a lot of work. But adding, any individual piece is is actually very quick.
366 00:32:54.270 --> 00:33:06.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: particularly if you're doing this on a regular basis, there is a problem with parish online that if you only use it once a month, then your speed of developing things has slowed down quite a lot
367 00:33:07.300 --> 00:33:11.240 Angie Bamford: It gives to show, you know, for presentations that we were doing to
368 00:33:11.370 --> 00:33:24.969 Angie Bamford: counselors or to business owners. It was a good tool to use a visual tool to, to map things out and show people where things are, what's going to be affected, who it's going to affect, how long it's going to take. You know, all those sort of things.
369 00:33:25.090 --> 00:33:27.089 Angie Bamford: There's a tree there, there's a.
370 00:33:27.310 --> 00:33:29.940 Angie Bamford: you know, all sorts of listed building there, and
371 00:33:31.030 --> 00:33:35.999 Angie Bamford: those are things that needs to be taken into account. Really, when you all this development goes on.
372 00:33:36.570 --> 00:33:39.800 Angie Bamford: and the impact on the traffic with the existing roads
373 00:33:44.380 --> 00:33:46.530 Kieran Watson: It for me. It's I
374 00:33:46.650 --> 00:33:51.950 Kieran Watson: I think we've got a 2 month sort of timetable, and
375 00:33:52.180 --> 00:33:58.659 Kieran Watson: it's definitely enlightened me in regards to the amount of work needs to be done, even though it's
376 00:33:59.919 --> 00:34:06.180 Kieran Watson: a simple process to map it. I think it's the the behind the scenes stuff that you've been doing
377 00:34:06.180 --> 00:34:11.219 Angie Bamford: Yeah, I mean each the landowners one particularly. We did that first.st
378 00:34:11.781 --> 00:34:16.600 Angie Bamford: So we could then think, have meetings with them to say what impact it's gonna have?
379 00:34:17.449 --> 00:34:17.979 Angie Bamford: So
380 00:34:18.699 --> 00:34:41.795 Angie Bamford: just individually doing that, drawing the little you know, the the rectangles, the squares, or whatever, and mapping it 1st and then getting the land registry details on as well. So we've got them. So we had an account with land registry as well, so we could, you know, download the the map from land registry and overdo it on parish online. And then you've got the
381 00:34:42.940 --> 00:34:46.749 Angie Bamford: Oh, would you like the title deeds and everything. So who who owns it? And
382 00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:53.699 Angie Bamford: so all those were added on each land parcel with an attachment of the land, registry deed and the land registry maps
383 00:34:53.969 --> 00:35:07.909 Angie Bamford: onto every single piece of land was mapped even a curb, you know. A little piece on where a bus stop is. Everything was mapped and we? We made sure we knew every single piece of land who owned who owned that piece of land
384 00:35:08.050 --> 00:35:12.930 Angie Bamford: just by bus stuff, or whatever, whether it be the Parish Council. It would be the Bucks County Council.
385 00:35:13.050 --> 00:35:16.009 Angie Bamford: because everybody everybody owns a piece of land somewhere
386 00:35:17.300 --> 00:35:22.319 Kieran Watson: Because we're a large Council estate. We've got a lot of different housing associations within
387 00:35:22.890 --> 00:35:27.100 Kieran Watson: the whole kind of development. And then we've got further developments now.
388 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:39.300 Kieran Watson: So that's kind of where a point worth taking and fortunate, and luckily enough, with guards to assets. We've just we've got on our team. I,
389 00:35:39.780 --> 00:35:45.580 Kieran Watson: an architect who's who's involved with the community development and regeneration.
390 00:35:45.740 --> 00:35:49.340 Kieran Watson: So we've kind of fortunate, really
391 00:35:49.830 --> 00:35:50.570 Angie Bamford: Hmm.
392 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:58.179 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Course, all that behind the scenes work is going to have to take place anyway. It's not a function of parish online.
393 00:35:59.150 --> 00:36:05.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you know. You, you need to do. Who are the landowners, and who are we going to be affected by this development?
394 00:36:06.140 --> 00:36:06.850 Angie Bamford: Boom.
395 00:36:07.914 --> 00:36:11.309 Kieran Watson: And do you record these sessions at all?
396 00:36:11.910 --> 00:36:18.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: This is being recorded now. Yes, and they're all available on the wiki to look up. If you want to go back to them later.
397 00:36:18.650 --> 00:36:24.500 Kieran Watson: I just wondered whether we've got a meeting in 2 weeks, and we're trying to to really sell the mapping.
398 00:36:24.810 --> 00:36:28.379 Kieran Watson: And I wonder whether I'm totally kind of
399 00:36:28.580 --> 00:36:31.940 Kieran Watson: clear now, and and impressed with it
400 00:36:32.110 --> 00:36:34.860 Kieran Watson: the way that map was shown.
401 00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:43.250 Kieran Watson: and I think that would be a great advert for our committee to kind of look at and say, Wow, you know
402 00:36:44.020 --> 00:36:48.530 Kieran Watson: and I don't know how David feels about that.
403 00:36:50.765 --> 00:36:52.280 David Newman: Well, we can.
404 00:36:52.650 --> 00:37:00.949 David Newman: The videos on the wiki, we can display. Our only problem is getting a big enough screen in the place we meet
405 00:37:01.520 --> 00:37:02.220 Kieran Watson: Hmm.
406 00:37:02.520 --> 00:37:12.509 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I was going to say, Karen, I'm very happy to donate some time. If it helps you to do a presentation or to just highlight the points you've made, in fact.
407 00:37:12.510 --> 00:37:12.910 Stuart Council: Oh!
408 00:37:12.910 --> 00:37:17.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Only Angie would get her public. Mac created. It would be a Ptk. Wouldn't it?
409 00:37:17.140 --> 00:37:23.770 Angie Bamford: Have you still got, Graham? Have you still got that presentation I gave you? You could use that
410 00:37:24.110 --> 00:37:30.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, yeah, there's all sorts of things we can do. So, Karen, if it helps, I'd be happy to help out
411 00:37:30.453 --> 00:37:33.719 Kieran Watson: If you would like to forward that to David.
412 00:37:33.900 --> 00:37:37.719 Kieran Watson: and then David and I will meet up to to view it
413 00:37:39.060 --> 00:37:43.099 Kieran Watson: before our next meeting, and then that gives us
414 00:37:45.690 --> 00:37:50.599 Kieran Watson: so much information and an opportunity to relate it, we might
415 00:37:50.780 --> 00:37:54.000 Kieran Watson: try and cut it down to bite size portions.
416 00:37:56.190 --> 00:38:01.710 Kieran Watson: And send that out with the working group to
417 00:38:02.740 --> 00:38:05.910 Kieran Watson: to give them a bit of a encouragement. Really.
418 00:38:07.020 --> 00:38:08.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm happy to do that.
419 00:38:08.850 --> 00:38:12.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So has our discussion generated questions than anybody else.
420 00:38:13.550 --> 00:38:19.860 Graham Stoddart-Stones: or anyone else want to make some points. Mr. Edwards was kind enough to
421 00:38:20.540 --> 00:38:28.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: involve us in lots and lots of questions to which some answers you had to go back to geosphere, for did you get answers from them?
422 00:38:28.460 --> 00:38:36.029 chris edwards: No, I haven't heard from them, I'm afraid so. They've been a bit slow, but I will come back to you once. I've got the answers from them
423 00:38:36.190 --> 00:38:36.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
424 00:38:37.210 --> 00:38:42.699 chris edwards: Would would you like me to just mention a couple of things
425 00:38:43.140 --> 00:38:44.230 Kieran Watson: On!
426 00:38:44.580 --> 00:38:46.620 chris edwards: A query or 2 I had
427 00:38:47.040 --> 00:38:48.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Chris, the floor is yours.
428 00:38:48.780 --> 00:38:51.470 chris edwards: Okay, I shall share my screen.
429 00:38:55.730 --> 00:38:57.360 chris edwards: Oh, what's that?
430 00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:02.390 Stuart Council: My phone. I think
431 00:39:03.460 --> 00:39:07.359 chris edwards: Alright! Here we go. So now this is my parish.
432 00:39:07.993 --> 00:39:12.940 chris edwards: What I was looking at is now that we're in the New Financial year.
433 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:19.640 chris edwards: I troll down these layers to find national maps.
434 00:39:20.180 --> 00:39:24.779 chris edwards: and I've got net 0. So if I home in on that.
435 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.979 chris edwards: I was looking at ev charges when I clicked on that
436 00:39:30.160 --> 00:39:35.029 chris edwards: the charges that we've got in our vicinity are not shown.
437 00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:44.900 chris edwards: So it raises the question, are these ev charges residential charges, or are they public charges?
438 00:39:45.460 --> 00:39:47.849 chris edwards: And I don't have an answer for that.
439 00:39:47.850 --> 00:39:48.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right.
440 00:39:48.210 --> 00:39:52.779 chris edwards: So that's a question I'll be asking. Parish online.
441 00:39:53.140 --> 00:39:55.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I can give you the answer to that one. Chris
442 00:39:55.380 --> 00:39:56.300 chris edwards: Thank you.
443 00:39:56.300 --> 00:40:05.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it is whatever you choose to put in. So if you scroll down a bit further, I can't remember. It's in this. If you go to property points.
444 00:40:06.570 --> 00:40:20.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you know, we'll go back up. You were on it. Property points turn that on all right. So there are what they call property points, and you can go into any one of those and just click on. It doesn't matter which one. But if you can find one that's near where your
445 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: charging points are at the moment that would help
446 00:40:24.070 --> 00:40:25.829 chris edwards: Yes, just give me a second
447 00:40:25.830 --> 00:40:26.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yep.
448 00:40:29.060 --> 00:40:31.230 chris edwards: You see Car Park
449 00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:32.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, so.
450 00:40:32.260 --> 00:40:36.000 chris edwards: There's a couple of charges, so if I click on that one, there
451 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:36.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
452 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.830 chris edwards: This brings up that particular property
453 00:40:41.370 --> 00:40:48.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yup, and then you can submit property statistics. So if you click on that up arrow
454 00:40:48.700 --> 00:40:53.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: on the right. No, no, no, right there. Yep, and it asks you questions.
455 00:40:53.950 --> 00:40:54.880 chris edwards: Oh yes!
456 00:40:55.500 --> 00:40:59.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And one of the questions will be, Do you have an Ev charging point
457 00:40:59.680 --> 00:41:00.430 chris edwards: Right.
458 00:41:01.220 --> 00:41:02.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So good.
459 00:41:02.050 --> 00:41:05.150 chris edwards: So you obviously submit that information there and then
460 00:41:05.150 --> 00:41:07.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Feel feel free to go ahead and do it.
461 00:41:08.380 --> 00:41:10.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you just click on, start
462 00:41:10.410 --> 00:41:11.889 chris edwards: Oh! Beg your pardon!
463 00:41:12.990 --> 00:41:13.940 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then
464 00:41:17.270 --> 00:41:18.819 chris edwards: Yeah, there's the question.
465 00:41:18.820 --> 00:41:23.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Say yes for the argument for the moment we'll go into the and then no, for the rest of it.
466 00:41:26.060 --> 00:41:26.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
467 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:31.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And just just go ahead and submit. Leave both of those blank
468 00:41:33.940 --> 00:41:35.260 Stuart Council: So you need to click.
469 00:41:42.370 --> 00:41:45.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you now go back into parish online.
470 00:41:46.590 --> 00:41:50.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you'll see that. And you probably need to refresh Chris.
471 00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:53.519 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you close down that column on the left.
472 00:41:54.650 --> 00:41:56.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, and just refresh
473 00:42:01.410 --> 00:42:07.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and turn back on. Go back down to your Ev charges in the national stats
474 00:42:09.390 --> 00:42:11.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones: next one yeah. Net 0. There you go
475 00:42:12.680 --> 00:42:14.229 chris edwards: Oh, yes, there we go!
476 00:42:14.230 --> 00:42:23.499 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And okay. So the note I got from Chris Muse said, this is something that we're developing. So it's a work in progress
477 00:42:23.500 --> 00:42:23.890 chris edwards: Yes.
478 00:42:23.890 --> 00:42:43.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And one of the things I went straight back to him and said was, the chances are very strong with a public. Ev. Charger is not going to be anywhere near a building by definition, it's going to be in a car park. And by definition car parks don't have buildings in them. So again, that's another question he's yet to answer. But
479 00:42:43.640 --> 00:43:02.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the the point is that that's where you get the information added to that particular layer. So you put it in yourself so it can be both private and public. But I also said that I felt that the 1st thing people would want to know, is some more information, like, what is the charging rate
480 00:43:03.836 --> 00:43:20.786 Graham Stoddart-Stones: in terms of speed, you know. Is this a fast charger or a slow charger? And the second point would be, what is the charging rate in terms of pounds per hour, you know, or pounds for kilowatt? What do you charge for electricity there and
481 00:43:21.790 --> 00:43:29.799 Graham Stoddart-Stones: there would probably be be useful to have a date of installation, something like that. So you can see how, out of how up to date this piece of kit is.
482 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:38.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I just felt that this is a a trial layer that they're testing out at the moment. And I sort of
483 00:43:38.470 --> 00:43:42.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: did a couple of tests and came to the conclusion it could be improved. So I've
484 00:43:43.549 --> 00:43:45.289 Bob Grainger: Yes, now
485 00:43:45.290 --> 00:43:47.779 chris edwards: Graham, how do I delete what I put in
486 00:43:47.780 --> 00:43:50.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, I shouldn't think there's any chance at all of you deleting that, Chris.
487 00:43:51.012 --> 00:43:53.760 Graham Stoddart-Stones: If you go back into it. If you
488 00:43:53.990 --> 00:43:57.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: go go into the edit. Yeah?
489 00:43:58.620 --> 00:43:59.280 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And
490 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:00.580 chris edwards: No delete button
491 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:06.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I think you need to go back down to the questions again. So if you go into the
492 00:44:07.100 --> 00:44:14.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: properties, property points next one down. Yeah, click on that one. Yeah.
493 00:44:15.080 --> 00:44:17.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and go into property points, I think.
494 00:44:19.240 --> 00:44:23.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Does he come up with the question? Yes. So go to your questions.
495 00:44:24.770 --> 00:44:39.051 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, Yup, and go into it and say, No, okay. Now you're done so. No, to everything else.
496 00:44:39.810 --> 00:44:44.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hello and blank, and just submit it, and it should delete it for you.
497 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:45.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good.
498 00:44:53.740 --> 00:44:56.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Do a refresh, do a refresh
499 00:45:00.580 --> 00:45:01.560 chris edwards: Yay!
500 00:45:01.560 --> 00:45:06.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, no, you haven't turned the layer on whoops
501 00:45:13.250 --> 00:45:14.229 chris edwards: What next?
502 00:45:14.430 --> 00:45:15.650 Stuart Council: Well, thank you.
503 00:45:15.650 --> 00:45:16.990 Stuart Council: Rid of it. Let's preview it.
504 00:45:16.990 --> 00:45:19.013 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You wrote me completely.
505 00:45:19.520 --> 00:45:20.720 chris edwards: Well, it's it's gone!
506 00:45:20.720 --> 00:45:22.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's gone. That's right, which is the whole point.
507 00:45:22.780 --> 00:45:29.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So yes, that's so. That's that's how they you get answers into that layer. Which is your original question.
508 00:45:30.710 --> 00:45:34.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and you said you had at least 2, Chris. So now's the time
509 00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:38.229 chris edwards: Right. So now national maps, parish stats.
510 00:45:38.900 --> 00:45:42.540 chris edwards: I was looking at preset band d
511 00:45:42.950 --> 00:45:46.729 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yeah, obviously question that. Only they can answer, not I.
512 00:45:46.730 --> 00:45:52.859 chris edwards: Yeah, I'm going to click on that and show you what comes up.
513 00:45:53.020 --> 00:45:55.690 chris edwards: So this, this is my parish.
514 00:45:55.890 --> 00:46:00.429 chris edwards: and if I click on view legend
515 00:46:01.050 --> 00:46:12.439 chris edwards: that will show you that our parish preset for Bandis actually 83 pounds per annum, whereas our neighbors
516 00:46:12.910 --> 00:46:19.880 chris edwards: across the border. They're up into the 200 pounds plus 200 plus
517 00:46:21.281 --> 00:46:25.810 chris edwards: and we're getting people who live in each of the parishes.
518 00:46:26.240 --> 00:46:31.410 chris edwards: one complaining that their precepts are gigantic.
519 00:46:31.580 --> 00:46:35.610 chris edwards: whereas the precepts in our parish are very modest.
520 00:46:35.950 --> 00:46:41.699 chris edwards: so that a lot of people have sort of complaining about why
521 00:46:42.190 --> 00:46:48.560 chris edwards: their property, which is a stone's throw from our parish. They're so much more expensive.
522 00:46:48.790 --> 00:46:56.570 chris edwards: anyway, that's our problem to sort out. But I found this very, very interesting to see.
523 00:46:56.820 --> 00:47:01.109 chris edwards: I mean, obviously, you've got town councils with the darker patches.
524 00:47:01.230 --> 00:47:08.319 chris edwards: and then the light of the patches. You've got the small parish councils with very low precepts.
525 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:20.870 chris edwards: but anyway, I just thought I'd show that we we find it very, very interesting. And my last question about this is, I'm wondering when parish online are going to publish the
526 00:47:21.460 --> 00:47:27.010 chris edwards: this year's precepts, because this is out. This is last year
527 00:47:27.300 --> 00:47:32.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, they can only do that when the national authority has published the details
528 00:47:33.010 --> 00:47:33.809 chris edwards: Oh, right!
529 00:47:33.810 --> 00:47:41.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You know you've got to get the data from the very least. Your District Council, and probably your County Council.
530 00:47:42.030 --> 00:47:42.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let's see
531 00:47:42.650 --> 00:47:43.680 Stuart Council: Even the State.
532 00:47:44.450 --> 00:47:48.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Given the state of Somerset at the moment, it will be sometime in next century
533 00:47:48.770 --> 00:47:50.789 Stuart Council: It was all published last month
534 00:47:51.720 --> 00:47:52.909 chris edwards: Go to Ukraine
535 00:47:54.200 --> 00:47:59.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay? So it's a. It's a very valid question for Chris to ask you. Sphere, then, is when
536 00:47:59.580 --> 00:48:00.059 chris edwards: I will!
537 00:48:00.060 --> 00:48:01.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They're gonna place right
538 00:48:01.510 --> 00:48:02.059 chris edwards: That's fine!
539 00:48:02.060 --> 00:48:07.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You? Are you all braced for a mad rush of people out of Castle Carey into Ansford?
540 00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:13.090 chris edwards: Well, it's an expensive business moving house, isn't it?
541 00:48:13.090 --> 00:48:14.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, well, yes.
542 00:48:14.230 --> 00:48:18.700 chris edwards: Anyway, we'll we'll have lots of conversations in the coming months about that
543 00:48:19.410 --> 00:48:20.120 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
544 00:48:21.736 --> 00:48:39.539 chris edwards: The last the last item. I need to get some information about watercourses, but just for the sake of of this afternoon's agenda, so to speak. Let me go to OS overlays. Let me turn
545 00:48:39.730 --> 00:48:41.090 chris edwards: that off.
546 00:48:43.070 --> 00:48:47.129 chris edwards: Oh, if you see OS overlays, here we are.
547 00:48:49.450 --> 00:48:49.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And you got
548 00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:58.460 chris edwards: I've been looking at water network nodes and water courses, so if I zoom in again to
549 00:48:59.020 --> 00:49:00.800 chris edwards: parish, there we are.
550 00:49:02.190 --> 00:49:04.520 chris edwards: I turn on watercourses.
551 00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:11.320 chris edwards: you'll you'll see there is various points in our parish if I click on one at random.
552 00:49:12.500 --> 00:49:17.289 chris edwards: It gives me very little information. It gives me an id.
553 00:49:17.580 --> 00:49:21.000 chris edwards: but it doesn't explain much about this.
554 00:49:21.940 --> 00:49:32.359 chris edwards: So I'll be asking questions of our local water utility company called Wessex Water about where I can glean information.
555 00:49:32.850 --> 00:49:42.320 chris edwards: And what's prompted this is, we've got a public recreational field in the middle of our parish, and
556 00:49:42.560 --> 00:49:46.090 chris edwards: although it doesn't show it where I've got my cursor.
557 00:49:46.330 --> 00:49:55.120 chris edwards: There's a manhole cover, and I'm thinking, what does that manhole cover service
558 00:49:55.120 --> 00:49:55.550 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's too
559 00:49:55.550 --> 00:50:03.709 chris edwards: Is. Yes, the the land from the east goes downhill to the west.
560 00:50:03.950 --> 00:50:12.330 chris edwards: and we're wondering whether or not this is a drainage manhole inspection cover.
561 00:50:13.080 --> 00:50:17.930 chris edwards: but we want to know where it starts and where it finishes.
562 00:50:18.080 --> 00:50:18.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You should.
563 00:50:18.580 --> 00:50:22.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Too large nodes as well as waterworks. Does that help?
564 00:50:27.450 --> 00:50:29.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Now the nearest nerve is okay.
565 00:50:31.200 --> 00:50:31.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
566 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.789 chris edwards: But that again, that doesn't really give me any information whatsoever
567 00:50:37.150 --> 00:50:39.959 chris edwards: gives me an id number. So
568 00:50:40.110 --> 00:50:42.490 chris edwards: there's a node there, there's a node there?
569 00:50:43.450 --> 00:50:45.910 chris edwards: What purpose do they serve?
570 00:50:46.470 --> 00:50:51.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I think these are all. Once you've got the identifier, then you've got something solid to go to Wessex Water with
571 00:50:51.890 --> 00:50:53.180 chris edwards: Yes, yes.
572 00:50:53.590 --> 00:50:59.580 chris edwards: so maybe by the time we have our next meeting in a week's time I might have an answer for you.
573 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:00.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Brand.
574 00:51:01.630 --> 00:51:03.350 chris edwards: Oh, anyway, thank you very much.
575 00:51:03.350 --> 00:51:03.990 chris edwards: Everyone.
576 00:51:05.490 --> 00:51:06.010 chris edwards: What's that
577 00:51:06.350 --> 00:51:10.139 Stuart Council: So going back to your earlier point, if you check the chat.
578 00:51:10.290 --> 00:51:18.949 Stuart Council: there's links there to the bandy database from gov.uk, which you might wanna pass on comments to
579 00:51:19.070 --> 00:51:20.250 Stuart Council: our salon
580 00:51:21.700 --> 00:51:25.740 chris edwards: You'll have to say that again. Your your like
581 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:32.570 chris edwards: like you're breaking up, I'm afraid. So. Go back to no
582 00:51:33.240 --> 00:51:34.140 Stuart Council: Chat.
583 00:51:34.140 --> 00:51:35.170 chris edwards: Bandy.
584 00:51:37.210 --> 00:51:39.280 chris edwards: Was that what you were talking about
585 00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:46.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, so click on the your area, Chris, and look at the record
586 00:51:47.170 --> 00:51:52.000 chris edwards: So yeah, it's 83 pounds for a bandy property.
587 00:51:52.230 --> 00:51:57.840 chris edwards: Those are the info. Those are the bits of information for the the previous financial year.
588 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, what was it you were saying that Chris could click on
589 00:52:03.410 --> 00:52:05.519 Angie Bamford: That she puts me in the chat
590 00:52:10.780 --> 00:52:11.370 chris edwards: Oh!
591 00:52:11.930 --> 00:52:13.900 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Have you been again? I couldn't.
592 00:52:13.900 --> 00:52:16.450 Graham Stoddart-Stones: He's put. He's put a note in the chat
593 00:52:16.450 --> 00:52:17.120 chris edwards: Oh, I see.
594 00:52:19.140 --> 00:52:21.370 chris edwards: Thank you all right, I'll I'll
595 00:52:21.500 --> 00:52:26.550 chris edwards: I'll obviously go on to the chat and have a look at that. But thank you very much, Stuart, for that.
596 00:52:27.410 --> 00:52:30.160 chris edwards: Let me just turn that off
597 00:52:30.260 --> 00:52:31.920 Stuart Council: And I'll stop sharing.
598 00:52:32.170 --> 00:52:36.690 Stuart Council: Sorry I had to put a headphone on to improve the microphone for you.
599 00:52:37.080 --> 00:52:39.390 chris edwards: Thank you very much indeed, Stuart.
600 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.269 chris edwards: No. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I shouldn't have done that.
601 00:52:46.100 --> 00:52:46.830 Andrew Clegg: You know.
602 00:52:47.270 --> 00:52:53.360 Andrew Clegg: Chris, I may be able to give a bit of an answer to both your questions, because we have both in Martok
603 00:52:53.570 --> 00:52:54.280 chris edwards: Oh, right!
604 00:52:54.620 --> 00:53:12.280 Andrew Clegg: The 1st one is that you'll probably find that Castle Carey does quite a lot more things that cost money than you do. For example. Martok has a youth group and a group that serves the elderly and and frail in the village
605 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:29.810 Andrew Clegg: which we set up some time ago, and we have to find and finance that out of now out of the council tax when it was set up. We didn't, but we do now, and so we've now we've now for a village got the highest precept in the country, and it is causing a big problem.
606 00:53:30.680 --> 00:53:45.209 Andrew Clegg: You may find that that's what happens in Castle Carey. You'll see the same in Langport and hewish in the same relationship. Langport is the town equivalent to Castle Kerry, and Hewish is the village, and their precept is much less.
607 00:53:45.680 --> 00:54:11.109 Andrew Clegg: And the second thing is about these underground pipes. I think that's what they are. Actually, as our village has been built a lot of the old ditches were culverted. Everybody's forgotten where they are, and you do see them on maps like this, so you'll probably find, I notice on one of your culverts there. There was a spring marked at the end of it
608 00:54:11.240 --> 00:54:18.339 Andrew Clegg: which suggests that it's it's the the old ditch system which has now been put underground.
609 00:54:20.380 --> 00:54:25.780 Andrew Clegg: and you'll start suffering from it soon, because the pipe diameters are not wide enough
610 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:26.889 Bob Grainger: No, no.
611 00:54:26.890 --> 00:54:30.850 Andrew Clegg: Take to take modern these days. Rainsfall
612 00:54:31.220 --> 00:54:37.020 chris edwards: Yeah, because we've got lots of new building programs. And you know.
613 00:54:37.130 --> 00:54:40.270 Andrew Clegg: We've had flooding issues for the last 2 or 3 years.
614 00:54:40.270 --> 00:54:49.409 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, we've had to have several of ours dug up by Wessex water and replaced with wider diameter pipes, because they just flooded flooded houses in the village when they couldn't take the thing. Yeah.
615 00:54:49.410 --> 00:54:51.730 chris edwards: Yeah, thank you for that. Thank you.
616 00:54:51.730 --> 00:55:02.909 Graham Stoddart-Stones: To Chris just out of interest. If we go back to one of Malcolm's favourite points, if you turn on your tithe maps, does it show you the ditches that used to be there, but are not there now, or have gone
617 00:55:02.910 --> 00:55:03.720 chris edwards: Yes, it does.
618 00:55:03.720 --> 00:55:04.130 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
619 00:55:04.130 --> 00:55:04.750 chris edwards: You
620 00:55:06.790 --> 00:55:10.999 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you show, go to your field where the man the manhole cover is
621 00:55:11.770 --> 00:55:12.770 chris edwards: Right.
622 00:55:13.990 --> 00:55:15.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: In terms of yeah, okay.
623 00:55:18.040 --> 00:55:19.040 chris edwards: Let me!
624 00:55:21.640 --> 00:55:22.619 Malcolm Daniels: Sorry. I've
625 00:55:23.100 --> 00:55:27.569 chris edwards: There it is. So here, here is here is the field
626 00:55:28.010 --> 00:55:30.160 chris edwards: where my cursor is is the manhole
627 00:55:30.520 --> 00:55:31.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
628 00:55:31.380 --> 00:55:38.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you now go and turn on your tide maps, which are somewhere up top, are they some? Said, Hr, I think. Yeah. Heritage heritage
629 00:55:38.630 --> 00:55:39.480 Andrew Clegg: Yeah, yeah.
630 00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Heritage, one up 1st green one. There you go
631 00:55:42.390 --> 00:55:50.100 Andrew Clegg: I'm sure Cs has something to do with underground water and deaf. I can't remember what, but I think it is
632 00:55:50.640 --> 00:55:53.829 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So you got a whole ton of pipes or ditches there, haven't you?
633 00:55:57.110 --> 00:55:59.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go! Well done.
634 00:56:00.980 --> 00:56:02.020 chris edwards: Gosh! Look at that!
635 00:56:02.020 --> 00:56:05.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But not actually in the area where you have your manhole cover.
636 00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:06.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hmm!
637 00:56:06.620 --> 00:56:07.929 chris edwards: The manhole is
638 00:56:08.250 --> 00:56:08.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
639 00:56:08.580 --> 00:56:08.910 chris edwards: I know.
640 00:56:08.910 --> 00:56:09.450 chris edwards: Yeah, sure.
641 00:56:09.970 --> 00:56:10.700 chris edwards: No.
642 00:56:11.210 --> 00:56:14.620 Andrew Clegg: But they will have altered slightly the course of it when they buried it. You see.
643 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:15.260 chris edwards: Yes.
644 00:56:16.065 --> 00:56:16.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
645 00:56:16.870 --> 00:56:20.580 Andrew Clegg: They won't. They won't have buried it under a hedge. They'll have buried it next to the hedge
646 00:56:20.580 --> 00:56:21.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
647 00:56:21.100 --> 00:56:21.560 chris edwards: Right.
648 00:56:21.970 --> 00:56:22.500 chris edwards: Yes, let's
649 00:56:22.500 --> 00:56:23.420 Malcolm Daniels: Just see exactly.
650 00:56:23.420 --> 00:56:23.979 chris edwards: What's up?
651 00:56:23.980 --> 00:56:26.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And it's hence moved it. Interesting. Okay?
652 00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:30.969 chris edwards: Oh, look! This dotted line here now, I think that's the parish boundary
653 00:56:31.780 --> 00:56:32.420 Andrew Clegg: Yeah.
654 00:56:34.340 --> 00:56:39.970 chris edwards: I get to turn off the those
655 00:56:40.270 --> 00:56:45.379 chris edwards: right, anyway. So thanks once again, all your comments are very welcome.
656 00:56:48.640 --> 00:56:50.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And please pay your bill.
657 00:56:51.895 --> 00:56:55.850 chris edwards: It's due in about 10 days time
658 00:56:55.850 --> 00:57:01.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right. They don't miss the trick parish online every which way
659 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:03.160 Malcolm Daniels: Sure.
660 00:57:03.160 --> 00:57:05.489 chris edwards: And both no longer employed
661 00:57:06.050 --> 00:57:06.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
662 00:57:06.970 --> 00:57:10.710 Malcolm Daniels: Oh, yeah, thank you.
663 00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:12.470 Malcolm Daniels: You're welcome.
664 00:57:13.700 --> 00:57:16.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right? Can we do anything for anybody else
665 00:57:16.220 --> 00:57:18.490 David Newman: I put a question in the chat
666 00:57:18.550 --> 00:57:19.200 Malcolm Daniels: Okay.
667 00:57:19.200 --> 00:57:21.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, sorry, Stuart!
668 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.129 David Newman: About ev charges? Can we import layers from Zapmap or plugshell
669 00:57:28.680 --> 00:57:37.609 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So we cannot in parish online, I should reemphasize that we cannot in parish online. But geosphere can without any issues.
670 00:57:38.204 --> 00:57:51.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So if you would like to see the Ev charges in Paris online, which I'm sure a whole ton of people would. Then perhaps you could just open a ticket to support@geosphere.com. Oh, no, you can't use.
671 00:57:51.470 --> 00:57:56.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: They've updated the name. It's now support@parisonline.co.uk.
672 00:57:57.857 --> 00:58:00.310 David Newman: Just for reference.
673 00:58:00.600 --> 00:58:15.489 David Newman: Yeah, I've discovered they both got Apis. They both charge for them, although the Department of Transport has an agreement with that map, so I don't know if what lay detail they have
674 00:58:16.460 --> 00:58:19.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I do think it's worthwhile opening a ticket to find out
675 00:58:19.780 --> 00:58:20.390 David Newman: Yeah.
676 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.019 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So would you like to do that?
677 00:58:25.210 --> 00:58:29.699 David Newman: You say it's support@parisonline.co.uk
678 00:58:29.700 --> 00:58:30.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
679 00:58:30.910 --> 00:58:31.430 David Newman: All right.
680 00:58:31.430 --> 00:58:32.730 chris edwards: Or is that.com
681 00:58:33.020 --> 00:58:34.026 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No uk
682 00:58:34.530 --> 00:58:35.090 chris edwards: Okay.
683 00:58:35.090 --> 00:58:35.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
684 00:58:36.890 --> 00:58:40.250 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well.
685 00:58:41.010 --> 00:59:00.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, you raised the interesting point during the week that every time someone asks me about getting data from their other councils into parish online. I point them at the council data entry and knowledge base. So they can follow the steps that parish online themselves have said, they want us to follow.
686 00:59:00.590 --> 00:59:07.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So just for those of you who are interested in doing that, you'll discover that you cannot any longer, because that article has been removed.
687 00:59:08.150 --> 00:59:14.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and I've asked what's coming in its place? And so far the answer is, no, no reply.
688 00:59:14.675 --> 00:59:16.699 Stuart Council: I can update on that
689 00:59:16.700 --> 00:59:18.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, go for it.
690 00:59:18.070 --> 00:59:25.319 Stuart Council: If you check the chat I've earlier today, I've been sent a link to the article
691 00:59:25.690 --> 00:59:29.199 Stuart Council: in a Revised Knowledge Base for Parish online
692 00:59:29.200 --> 00:59:36.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right? So it is exactly the same article. It's just in a different place
693 00:59:36.510 --> 00:59:37.160 Stuart Council: Yeah.
694 00:59:37.160 --> 00:59:40.899 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, okay, so what do they call this one? Now
695 00:59:42.170 --> 00:59:47.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: requesting local council data? Okay. So you should be able to find it with council data
696 00:59:47.110 --> 00:59:54.480 Stuart Council: Yeah, yeah, no, it should should be able to do now. But I mean, I wasn't aware of this version of the knowledge base until
697 00:59:54.730 --> 01:00:02.859 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, it's only just gone online, hasn't it? Because this certainly wasn't there when you posed the question to me 2 days. So this is the brand new
698 01:00:03.310 --> 01:00:07.946 Graham Stoddart-Stones: knowledge base. Okay? So there's another interesting thing for everybody.
699 01:00:10.270 --> 01:00:16.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And they put an item in on Irene's which is interesting. Yeah, all right, that's new, too.
700 01:00:18.730 --> 01:00:20.881 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, that's early in the next map. Okay.
701 01:00:29.990 --> 01:00:30.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: good.
702 01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:39.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are we going to declare the weekend started early, then, if everyone has exhausted all their questions and items of interest.
703 01:00:41.200 --> 01:00:45.950 Stuart Council: Actually sorry. I've just thought of a query.
704 01:00:46.422 --> 01:00:51.290 Stuart Council: Something that came to me earlier on I've got.
705 01:00:51.430 --> 01:00:59.744 Stuart Council: I combination of data and whatever where I've filled in
706 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:06.695 Stuart Council: various bits. Sorry I'm flicking and getting the wrong element. Yeah,
707 01:01:09.130 --> 01:01:12.869 Stuart Council: let me share. And you can see what I'm looking at that'll make life easier.
708 01:01:16.150 --> 01:01:17.030 Stuart Council: Sorry?
709 01:01:17.170 --> 01:01:21.149 Stuart Council: Yeah, hopefully, you can see from there
710 01:01:21.150 --> 01:01:22.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And then
711 01:01:22.350 --> 01:01:23.090 Stuart Council: Yeah.
712 01:01:23.820 --> 01:01:28.370 Stuart Council: So my post some bollards there.
713 01:01:31.279 --> 01:01:31.819 Stuart Council: whatever.
714 01:01:32.250 --> 01:01:48.940 Stuart Council: When I come into the styling you can see the order. There is not alphabetical, and lamppost
715 01:01:50.230 --> 01:01:54.460 Stuart Council: developer set sits at the bottom, which
716 01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:57.490 Stuart Council: he's a bit annoying, and I'd like to actually get it.
717 01:01:58.177 --> 01:02:05.830 Stuart Council: Sort of higher up the list which when I go into the layer
718 01:02:10.490 --> 01:02:16.700 Stuart Council: And I've checked and done all of this and the type.
719 01:02:18.160 --> 01:02:20.539 Stuart Council: It doesn't sit at the bottom.
720 01:02:21.740 --> 01:02:23.233 Stuart Council: It sits
721 01:02:23.980 --> 01:02:24.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Number 2,
722 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:25.980 Stuart Council: As number 2.
723 01:02:26.090 --> 01:02:31.259 Stuart Council: So how do I get one? How do I get the 2 to to tally up
724 01:02:31.560 --> 01:02:37.424 Stuart Council: so that what I see and what it says it's supposed to be doing are actually the same
725 01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:45.990 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But you're making this weird assumption that just because you've put the lead in one set of orders in your set, that's how it should appear in styling
726 01:02:47.904 --> 01:02:48.660 Stuart Council: That
727 01:02:48.660 --> 01:02:51.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So all your being is logical and rational. I don't think
728 01:02:51.340 --> 01:02:52.270 Stuart Council: Yeah.
729 01:02:52.270 --> 01:02:53.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, that's not good enough.
730 01:02:54.070 --> 01:02:59.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You've got to throw in a random sort of variable in there somewhere.
731 01:02:59.770 --> 01:03:05.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But let's let's make the second one, the 5th one, or the 6th one, just just for a change
732 01:03:05.270 --> 01:03:06.960 Stuart Council: Just yeah, just forget it. Yeah.
733 01:03:08.340 --> 01:03:15.459 Angie Bamford: When I've done mine in alphabetical order before, in that, like you did in administration, you can move them around. You can click and drag them, put them wherever you want them.
734 01:03:15.460 --> 01:03:20.740 Stuart Council: Yeah, yeah, I guess I can move those around now. No issue
735 01:03:20.740 --> 01:03:21.970 Angie Bamford: So why doesn't that show
736 01:03:21.970 --> 01:03:26.890 Stuart Council: But it doesn't. We're moving it around doesn't filter through
737 01:03:27.680 --> 01:03:28.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: To the styling page
738 01:03:28.970 --> 01:03:34.660 Stuart Council: Styling page, and how that looks, and I don't quite know how to
739 01:03:34.660 --> 01:03:36.390 Angie Bamford: Does it, do it as you create.
740 01:03:37.270 --> 01:03:41.430 Angie Bamford: list them as you create them in in like time order rather than
741 01:03:42.160 --> 01:03:43.939 Angie Bamford: did your did you create that
742 01:03:44.464 --> 01:03:47.610 Stuart Council: Gosh! Now you're asking a question.
743 01:03:48.092 --> 01:03:52.919 Angie Bamford: It might actually do it. List them as I've done
744 01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:54.220 Stuart Council: Logically, added, yeah.
745 01:03:54.520 --> 01:03:57.810 Angie Bamford: As the last one you've added will be the last one that shows
746 01:03:59.330 --> 01:04:01.909 Retired Clerk: There's a logic to that, Angie.
747 01:04:01.910 --> 01:04:05.219 Retired Clerk: Oh, Stuart, you shouldn't see! It's your fault. It's not theirs.
748 01:04:07.460 --> 01:04:14.330 chris edwards: Stuart. I don't. I haven't given this much thought. Go go back, go go back to the previous
749 01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:19.700 chris edwards: The previous one
750 01:04:20.790 --> 01:04:24.460 Stuart Council: So where? Where? I'm looking at it, hey?
751 01:04:25.030 --> 01:04:27.409 Stuart Council: In this one? Is that what you you remain in
752 01:04:27.410 --> 01:04:29.069 chris edwards: No. Yeah.
753 01:04:29.900 --> 01:04:31.180 Angie Bamford: So. Yes, it
754 01:04:31.550 --> 01:04:32.180 Stuart Council: Darling.
755 01:04:32.180 --> 01:04:32.960 chris edwards: Yeah, right?
756 01:04:33.570 --> 01:04:39.849 chris edwards: What what I was going to suggest is this, take take the top one called lamppost all night.
757 01:04:39.970 --> 01:04:50.840 chris edwards: If you were to put an capital A in front of lamppost all night, then the second one B. Lamppost part night.
758 01:04:50.980 --> 01:04:55.630 chris edwards: next one down C lamp post on telegraph pole.
759 01:04:55.630 --> 01:04:56.080 Stuart Council: Yep.
760 01:04:56.080 --> 01:04:57.840 chris edwards: Would that would that help you?
761 01:04:59.460 --> 01:05:08.940 Stuart Council: No, because the only way to order it is in the administration section. And this isn't following what's in administration
762 01:05:08.940 --> 01:05:10.222 Angie Bamford: Okay, cool. So
763 01:05:10.650 --> 01:05:12.070 Stuart Council: Understand what you're saying
764 01:05:12.070 --> 01:05:12.710 chris edwards: Yeah.
765 01:05:12.710 --> 01:05:17.000 Stuart Council: But as this I can't edit the expression
766 01:05:17.420 --> 01:05:17.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But
767 01:05:18.350 --> 01:05:23.729 Stuart Council: And whatever which is what it's sorted on at the moment
768 01:05:23.730 --> 01:05:24.240 chris edwards: Hmm.
769 01:05:24.609 --> 01:05:27.199 Stuart Council: You can only do that through the
770 01:05:28.010 --> 01:05:29.010 Andrew Clegg: Stewart.
771 01:05:29.010 --> 01:05:30.010 Stuart Council: Administration, field
772 01:05:30.010 --> 01:05:34.869 Andrew Clegg: Stuart. I think I vaguely remember that I've had this problem before.
773 01:05:35.374 --> 01:05:47.179 Andrew Clegg: You. You won't be very pleased to learn that I've completely forgotten what the solution was, but I have a feeling that I eventually gave up
774 01:05:47.180 --> 01:06:06.089 Andrew Clegg: and restyled the whole thing, and I have a feeling that the reason for this is that the styling was not done all. At the same time I did one lot of styling, and then and they did another lot, and and somehow that confused the issue. I solved it by deleting the styling and redoing
775 01:06:07.030 --> 01:06:07.410 Angie Bamford: You know.
776 01:06:07.410 --> 01:06:09.243 Andrew Clegg: Does does that help Stuart
777 01:06:09.610 --> 01:06:09.845 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
778 01:06:10.790 --> 01:06:13.170 Stuart Council: It. It gives me a
779 01:06:13.500 --> 01:06:19.580 Stuart Council: a an option. It doesn't sort of provide me with a quick fix. But yeah, no, that that yeah.
780 01:06:19.580 --> 01:06:33.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think a much better option would be to have Kieran to send in his request, and David to send in his request, and you to send in your request, so that 3 tickets arrive on Chris's desk this afternoon, and then we're well away
781 01:06:34.780 --> 01:06:35.600 Andrew Clegg: Interesting.
782 01:06:35.940 --> 01:06:37.180 Retired Clerk: Mo, mo, mo.
783 01:06:37.180 --> 01:06:39.430 Stuart Council: Ways to wind Chris up on a Friday afternoon. You mean
784 01:06:39.430 --> 01:06:40.475 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
785 01:06:42.690 --> 01:06:51.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, it's it's just an idea. But thank you for letting us see that, Stuart, because it's another issue I hadn't appreciated before
786 01:06:51.150 --> 01:06:52.550 Angie Bamford: I've had it before, and
787 01:06:52.550 --> 01:06:52.870 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
788 01:06:53.553 --> 01:07:07.220 Angie Bamford: Think it cause you can click and drag it, and you can put it in the order that you want in the administration bit. But yeah, I I got a thing I had to redo. It's the way you do it, but the way you create it is the order. It will show
789 01:07:07.220 --> 01:07:09.509 Andrew Clegg: Yes, I think you're right, Angie.
790 01:07:09.980 --> 01:07:13.750 Angie Bamford: So so, as as somebody earlier said, it's chronological
791 01:07:14.430 --> 01:07:15.260 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right.
792 01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:21.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: How how tedious! Much better to go back and ask them to change it! So it's alphabetical
793 01:07:22.080 --> 01:07:22.920 Angie Bamford: But that's
794 01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:26.459 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You can't believe it's very difficult for them. It's just a little coding change.
795 01:07:30.630 --> 01:07:43.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you all very much for your attention, Angie. It was lovely to see you and Adrian and Karen's gone, but, Adrian, thank you for showing up. I hope we've helped, and if you have any more questions, throw them at us
796 01:07:43.930 --> 01:07:46.619 Angie Bamford: Are you meeting over the Easter holidays, Easter?
797 01:07:47.030 --> 01:07:50.060 Angie Bamford: You've got Bank Holiday, haven't you? When's when's your next one? Graham
798 01:07:50.950 --> 01:07:56.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, are you saying next Friday is a Bank Holiday. I think we do these every Friday, almost regardless
799 01:07:56.100 --> 01:07:57.989 Malcolm Daniels: It's good, isn't it?
800 01:07:57.990 --> 01:07:58.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
801 01:07:58.890 --> 01:08:00.040 Retired Clerk: Cool, so
802 01:08:00.040 --> 01:08:03.149 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So it'll be next Friday. It's every week at 2 o'clock
803 01:08:03.380 --> 01:08:05.640 Angie Bamford: Let you go hopefully. See you next week as well
804 01:08:05.640 --> 01:08:06.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes.
805 01:08:07.550 --> 01:08:08.300 Bob Grainger: See you on Jane
806 01:08:08.300 --> 01:08:10.029 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Authorized and done. Angie
807 01:08:10.030 --> 01:08:12.009 Bob Grainger: Hello, Stuart, speaking good to see you back
808 01:08:12.710 --> 01:08:13.359 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Say yep.
809 01:08:15.430 --> 01:08:15.840 Andrew Clegg: Bye.
810 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank you very much. Take care, bye, bye.
811 01:08:17.859 --> 01:08:18.589 Bob Grainger: Bye, bye.
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